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antzz
post Oct 18 2012, 02:07 PM

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Meet Aragorn my arowana LOL

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leggedy
post Oct 18 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 18 2012, 02:07 PM)
Meet Aragorn my arowana LOL

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Hmm..jump out before? The lower fin...
antzz
post Oct 18 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(leggedy @ Oct 18 2012, 07:08 PM)
Hmm..jump out before? The lower fin...
There's a story behind it. He was from a local Pet Gallery. He broke into other Arowana's territory (middle separator failure) and had a great fight. The other arowana badly injured, had his scales fallen off, also fins torn here and there. So my arowana was obviously the winner, he was only slightly injured, his tail & anal fin (the tail recovered only after 2 days).

That was how he got his name, Aragorn biggrin.gif

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post Oct 18 2012, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 17 2012, 10:51 PM)
About the same size as mine. Urs look quite fat in the belly, what do u feed him/ her?
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yea everyone said it look kinda fat lol, feed with wheat worms, daily consume around 16 worms
i did put seluang, ligo n some "drain" fishes, sometime feed with shrimps

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post Oct 18 2012, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(RCrex @ Oct 18 2012, 08:46 PM)
yea everyone said it look kinda fat lol, feed with wheat worms, daily consume around 16 worms
i did put seluang, ligo n some "drain" fishes, sometime feed with shrimps
Aragorn never wana take any feeder fishes. Shrimps? U mean live one?
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:22 PM

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Hi guys!

I am taking an interest in this hobby, especially since my dad has also taken up this hobby (hm not actually hobby, I'd say, as he is involve in selling arowanas for about a year plus now).

I'd like to join in the discussion, if that is alright with you guys smile.gif

Hm, I heard that droopy-eyed Arowana is not very nice.

Could you guys please advise how to 'cure' this?
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 18 2012, 09:56 PM)
Aragorn never wana take any feeder fishes. Shrimps? U mean live one?
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erm... small prawn, but my aro being lazy everyday wait me feed worm -.-


Added on October 18, 2012, 9:36 pm
QUOTE(nujikabane @ Oct 18 2012, 10:22 PM)
Hi guys!

I am taking an interest in this hobby, especially since my dad has also taken up this hobby (hm not actually hobby, I'd say, as he is involve in selling arowanas for about a year plus now).

I'd like to join in the discussion, if that is alright with you guys smile.gif

Hm, I heard that droopy-eyed Arowana is not very nice.

Could you guys please advise how to 'cure' this?
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welcome, im new here also
keeping aro since sept
not sure bout the drop eyes, some said put ping pong balls but some stil ended drop eyes, some claimed its a kind of disease...


Added on October 18, 2012, 9:39 pm
QUOTE(wastematime @ Oct 18 2012, 10:31 PM)
hi, id like to ask what's the maintenance of arowana like?
what aquarium that has good filter would you recommend ?

my friend is giving me her arowana[ about 35-40cm long] thanks
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maintenance like keeping the water clean n healthy,
cleaning the filter regularly, control the water which is suitable for the aro to live,
put feeders like little fishes, worms, for me it may cost like RM1 per day juz to put those feeders n other maintenance of water

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post Oct 18 2012, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Oct 18 2012, 09:22 PM)
Hi guys!

I am taking an interest in this hobby, especially since my dad has also taken up this hobby (hm not actually hobby, I'd say, as he is involve in selling arowanas for about a year plus now).

I'd like to join in the discussion, if that is alright with you guys smile.gif

Hm, I heard that droopy-eyed Arowana is not very nice.

Could you guys please advise how to 'cure' this?
Hi wave.gif smile.gif

QUOTE(wastematime @ Oct 18 2012, 09:31 PM)
hi, id like to ask what's the maintenance of arowana like?
what aquarium that has good filter would you recommend ?

my friend is giving me her arowana[ about 35-40cm long] thanks
AFAIK, water quality is vital. Although this fish is hardy -they can survive in tough situations- but water quality will determine the coloration & overall quality of arowana.

Ur fren very kind one, girlfren? brows.gif

Mind to share the pic of the gift?

QUOTE(RCrex @ Oct 18 2012, 09:34 PM)
welcome, im new here also
keeping aro since sept
not sure bout the drop eyes, some said put ping pong balls but some stil ended drop eyes, some claimed its a kind of disease...
Ping-pong ball in arowana tank has no scientific proof, so it may have nothing to do with curing DE.

I 'believe' DE can be from unhealthy diet, maybe too much fat, but, who can actually tell..
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:03 PM

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Wah, so many topics since I'm gone... seems like i have missed out a lot...

From what I gather, the main topic is still DE...

But before i share my thought on the DE part, lets talk about overall health...

I see we have a member is giving a wide variety of diet to boast the overall health of our fish here.. Very good indeed.. got to be hardworking and very very discipline...

But i have to top up a little on this part... worms, feeder fish and market prawn and ghost shrimp, though is wide variety but you are still only giving your aro protein... my point is, it is not as simple as giving your fish food only...

Maintenance of a 40cm aro... would really like to tell you all i can but your question is way too general... we dont even know do you have an aquarium.. if yes, the size.. what kinda filtering system you are using etc etc...

But putting aside the cost of the right hardwares, cheapest food for aro is market prawns.. a week will not cost you more than RM3... Water pump of 40watt per day will cost you RM9.. normal T5 36watt will cost you RM2.70 per day for 8 hours of light... if i really goes into any more detailed, am afraid you will get confused...

lastly, DE...

we have heard all kinda reason as of why this happen... but i will only tell you those that i have experienced it personally...

1st, your fish knock on the glass..
2nd, fatty deposit build up..

as for how to cure, very simple... just dont let the things that you thought that might caused DE, happen... agree.?
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:09 PM

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^ Agreed on the last comment about DE smile.gif

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But i have to top up a little on this part... worms, feeder fish and market prawn and ghost shrimp, though is wide variety but you are still only giving your aro protein... my point is, it is not as simple as giving your fish food only...


With regards to the quoted, do you mean that aro would need other nutrients besides protein? Am not sure what other types of food that we can give aro..
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post Oct 19 2012, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Oct 18 2012, 11:09 PM)
^ Agreed on the last comment about DE smile.gif
With regards to the quoted, do you mean that aro would need other nutrients besides protein? Am not sure what other types of food that we can give aro..
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If u got the time, simply click on the link below, "aquatic solutions". Then come and find us on your offdays and we could answer u better thru face to face conversation..from water chemistry to arowana genetic issue..
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:07 AM

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I hv long history dealing with arowana.

From childhood, i already hv my own. My first experience was with silver arowana, got him since baby. In only 3 months, i managed to bring him to 13" or slightly more. The guy was a great eater, fed him with Hikari Foodsticks, roaches, lizards, grasshoppers, worms, he took them all. After long holiday finished, i hd to return to study, so had to let him go. I gave him to a local shopkeeper, to keep temporarily before finding a new owner. I know the probability is very high that no owner can understand my arowana as well as i do, and later i found that true, somehow. The aro never wana eat since that moment, and he committed suicide (i believe that, ppl will say anything but i dont care) by jumping out from his tank. The shopkeeper returned his body so i can bury him..

This is my 4th arowana experience with Aragorn. Hope everything goes well this time. I gave up keeping arowanas for years, but the thought haunts me back, even in my dreams biggrin.gif

So here i am with Aragorn, together with his tankmates. All i can say now is, i'm a happy arowana owner icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 19 2012, 12:18 PM

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Just wondering, what is the average lifespan of aro?
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post Oct 19 2012, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Oct 19 2012, 12:18 PM)
Just wondering, what is the average lifespan of aro?
Being said "the oldest one recorded in home aquaria is 40 years mate but 20 is a rough guideline"

There's so much saying and beliefs regarding this fish. Quoting from Wikipedia :

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One belief is that while water is a place where chi gathers, it is naturally a source of yin energy and must contain an "auspicious" fish such as an arowana in order to have balancing yang energy.[11] Another is that a fish can preserve its owner from death by dying itself.[15]

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post Oct 19 2012, 08:12 PM

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Regardless of how long ur aro can last is up to how well u maintain the water..

I've come across numerous story of ppl saying once i sell my aro, my aro dun eat and starve to death after a month or two..aro jump out wanna commit suicide coz he knows i am gonna sell him..

Back to bottomline, it is all water and environment issue..

If u can do water change twice a week by following the proper method of water change...20years minimal in a biological enviroment..but the questions is, can u maintain this for 20years?

Especially when ur aro fall ill or grow some fungus or parasite..i saw many aro keeper especially newbies starts to panic..stress himself..and indirectly lead to the owner started to do this and that to the water and tank environment..lower water level, then put medicine, then put salt..later see like not improving, then add water, change water, change medication.. by doing this, the aro eventually was put in great stress..and eventually the constant changes in environment bring its vital condition down and dies later on..

If it is basic knowledge of arowana forumer is seeking here..i suggest reading from arowana v5..u will get all ur answer..as well as preventing anyone to make any mistake that would cause another beautiful fish to pass away before it fully blossom at later stages..
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Oct 18 2012, 11:09 PM)
^ Agreed on the last comment about DE smile.gif
With regards to the quoted, do you mean that aro would need other nutrients besides protein? Am not sure what other types of food that we can give aro..there is plenty of way to give other food/nutrients to aro.. like soaking dried shrimps quoted by other member.. but i will advise you to not soak it over night.. its not about the vitamins overdose, its the vitamins turning bad.. of course unless you soak it in a tight container or in a fridge.. blending carrot and cucumber and inject them into live feeders is very good for the fish but some might find this too mean... so, at the end of the day, do what you are comfortable with... cucumber has almost all the nutrients needed by any fish but please remove the seeds..
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post Oct 20 2012, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(antzz @ Oct 19 2012, 12:07 PM)
I hv long history dealing with arowana.

From childhood, i already hv my own. My first experience was with silver arowana, got him since baby. In only 3 months, i managed to bring him to 13" or slightly more. The guy was a great eater, fed him with Hikari Foodsticks, roaches, lizards, grasshoppers, worms, he took them all. After long holiday finished, i hd to return to study, so had to let him go. I gave him to a local shopkeeper, to keep temporarily before finding a new owner. I know the probability is very high that no owner can understand my arowana as well as i do, and later i found that true, somehow. The aro never wana eat since that moment, and he committed suicide (i believe that, ppl will say anything but i dont care) by jumping out from his tank.  The shopkeeper returned his body so i can bury him..

This is my 4th arowana experience with Aragorn. Hope everything goes well this time. I gave up keeping arowanas for years, but the thought haunts me back, even in my dreams biggrin.gif

So here i am with Aragorn, together with his tankmates. All i can say now is, i'm a happy arowana owner icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 21 2012, 02:01 AM

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Added on October 15, 2012, 12:37 pm

From my observation mybe it from HYBRID breed.. It's more like High Back from the colour tail and shinning level .. But HB more categories like Super High Back, High Back Golden , High Back Crossback .. if fish growth at 14-16 inch easy to see the feature. Anyway the seller claimed thats what aro ?



He claimed tis is golden arowana . father crossback , mother don know ...
How to differentiate the breed thru color ?? Attached Image

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post Oct 22 2012, 07:08 PM

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Added on October 15, 2012, 12:37 pm

From my observation mybe it from HYBRID breed.. It's more like High Back from the colour tail and shinning level .. But HB more categories like Super High Back, High Back Golden , High Back Crossback .. if fish growth at 14-16 inch easy to see the feature. Anyway the seller claimed thats what aro ?
He claimed tis is golden arowana . father crossback , mother don know ...               
How to differentiate the breed thru color ??  Attached Image
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Whats the size bro?

Got crossback genes..i assume is low quality crossback..

For a golden arowana, the tail colour, upper side must be either dark blue or dark grey, usually dark blue..lower tail will be reddish..

Pectoral fin, could be red, dark grey or dark blue..

Lips usually greyish..cannot be red..

Scale rims, goldish..


For red arowana...very subjective..

But usual identification,

Tail and fin red
Pectoral fin red or between orange to red..

Above identification is for general red and gold arowana..

Golden arowana :
-highback
- super highback
- crossback
- gold head

Red arowana
- super red
- chilli red
- blood red (selected from chilli red batch, jz as the few elite among all)

Green arowana

Yellow tail

Banjar red

Silver

Pearl arowana

New breed:
- xanthium (not sure the spelling) silver
- platinum pearl

Rare /defect:
- albino
- ffl aka fa fu long aka short body
- ytl aka yi tiao long
- twin aro
- single eyed aro
- hunch aro
- batik aro
- nami green
- pale coloured aro not albino..
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QUOTE(leggedy @ Oct 22 2012, 07:08 PM)
Whats the size bro?

Got crossback genes..i assume is low quality crossback..

For a golden arowana, the tail colour, upper side must be either dark blue or dark grey, usually dark blue..lower tail will be reddish..

Pectoral fin, could be red, dark grey or dark blue..

Lips usually greyish..cannot be red..

Scale rims, goldish..
For red arowana...very subjective..

But usual identification,

Tail and fin red
Pectoral fin red or between orange to red..

Above identification is for general red and gold arowana..

Golden arowana :
-highback
- super highback
- crossback
- gold head

Red arowana
- super red
- chilli red
- blood red (selected from chilli red batch, jz as the few elite among all)

Green arowana

Yellow tail

Banjar red

Silver

Pearl arowana

New breed:
- xanthium (not sure the spelling) silver
- platinum pearl

Rare /defect:
- albino
- ffl aka fa fu long aka short body
- ytl aka yi tiao long
- twin aro
- single eyed aro
- hunch aro
- batik aro
- nami green
- pale coloured aro not albino..
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Thx for information above biggrin.gif quite simple and clear for beginner like me thumbup.gif
erm ... about 8 , 9 inches...
oh ya , as u can see , the scale shining on level 5 and 6 are all blur , i put it on white tank and open top light for 12 hours per day . but ald pass one month and its show slow development . should i change to side tanning for 24 hours ? realli hope she can cross v full shine brows.gif

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