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 Oil & Gas Career v3, Job Oppurtunities & Technical Sharing

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alvinkhorfire
post Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM

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Oil and Gas Experts, I need your help in deciding which job offer I should choose. Any advice is very much appreciated. notworthy.gif

I am a fresh graduate, and this shall be my first job in oil and gas industry. Hence, I want to treasure this golden opportunity and make the best of it. For that, the salary is not really a primary deciding factor. I want to prioritize in accumulating knowledge and experience, as to build my competences in this industry.

Which job is the best, especially in term of job prospect and career advancement?

1. TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd. (a SapuraKencana Petroleum company)
Field of Work of Company: Offshore Construction (International), Offshore Construction & Subsea Services. Transportation, erection and installation of offshore pipelines and facilities.
Post: Junior Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: being a field engineer. Other task is to use spreadsheet programs to perform engineering calculations.


2. Aker Engineering Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
Field of Work of Company: concept and feasibility studies, front-end engineering design and detailed engineering for new oil and gas production facilities offshore. (essentially this company is oil and gas consultant).
Post: Graduate Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: involved in HVAC design.

I like to perform engineering calculation and analyse theories. I am not saying that I will not perform project management, if I am assigned such task. I would prefer to deal with equipment, than to be involved in project management (handling client and contractors, attending meeting).


As for the job offer by TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd., I am told by HR department to collect and sign the Letter of Appointment tomorrow. Thus, I need to make the decision right now.

Thank you for your advice, guys. I would certainly appreciate any comment and advice. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 15 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM)
Oil and Gas Experts, I need your help in deciding which job offer I should choose. Any advice is very much appreciated.  notworthy.gif

As for the job offer by TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd., I am told by HR department to collect and sign the Letter of Appointment tomorrow. Thus, I need to make the decision right now.

Thank you for your advice, guys. I would certainly appreciate any comment and advice.  notworthy.gif
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I will suggest take TL Offshore Work. Seem like you gonna expose to technical, analysis knowledge and hands on job.. This kind of work will bring you to high figure salary... wink.gif
How much they offer u?
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post Aug 15 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM)
Oil and Gas Experts, I need your help in deciding which job offer I should choose. Any advice is very much appreciated.  notworthy.gif

I am a fresh graduate, and this shall be my first job in oil and gas industry. Hence, I want to treasure this golden opportunity and make the best of it. For that, the salary is not really a primary deciding factor. I want to prioritize in accumulating knowledge and experience, as to build my competences in this industry.

Which job is the best, especially in term of job prospect and career advancement?

1. TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd. (a SapuraKencana Petroleum company)
Field of Work of Company: Offshore Construction (International), Offshore Construction & Subsea Services. Transportation, erection and installation of offshore pipelines and facilities.
Post: Junior Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: being a field engineer. Other task is to use spreadsheet programs to perform engineering calculations.
2. Aker Engineering Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
Field of Work of Company: concept and feasibility studies, front-end engineering design and detailed engineering for new oil and gas production facilities offshore. (essentially this company is oil and gas consultant).
Post: Graduate Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: involved in HVAC design.

I like to perform engineering calculation and analyse theories. I am not saying that I will not perform project management, if I am assigned such task. I would prefer to deal with equipment, than to be involved in project management (handling client and contractors, attending meeting).
As for the job offer by TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd., I am told by HR department to collect and sign the Letter of Appointment tomorrow. Thus, I need to make the decision right now.

Thank you for your advice, guys. I would certainly appreciate any comment and advice.  notworthy.gif
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TLO.

Field engineer will make lots of contact. thats what oil n gas career is. brows.gif
thegreatgorillarz
post Aug 15 2012, 11:47 PM

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Hi guys.. Does anyone know about the job prospect related to welding in ONG? I've come across this thread didn't find any.. Its quite weird cause I heard that welding is quite marketable in ONG field...Or is it just rumors?
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post Aug 16 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(thegreatgorillarz @ Aug 15 2012, 11:47 PM)
Hi guys.. Does anyone know about the job prospect related to welding in ONG? I've come across this thread didn't find any.. Its quite weird cause I heard that welding is quite marketable in ONG field...Or is it just rumors?
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i guess u didn't look enough in this thread. there are several posts discussed on this subject in previously posted v1 & v2.
alvinkhorfire
post Aug 16 2012, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Aug 15 2012, 09:02 PM)
I will suggest take TL Offshore Work. Seem like you gonna expose to technical, analysis knowledge and hands on job..  This kind of work will bring you to high figure salary...  wink.gif
How much they offer u?
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Thank you very much, abgkik and x0x for your recommendation. thumbup.gif The best job I should accept is unanimously the first one. smile.gif

I use the term "fresh graduate" loosely to describe myself. I did have 3-month working experience in M&E consultant firm in construction industry. Then again, such working experience does not matter much, since it bears not much relevance to the oil and gas industry, I think. As such, I still consider myself as fresh and inexperienced.

As mentioned before, salary does not matter much to me. I am not saying that I am rich. As long as it is decent enough for me to earn a living, I am happy with it. If I am not mistaken, you all oil and gas veterans always advise us fresh graduates not to be choosy, and instead gain useful working experience first. For sure, I will heed that useful advice. Once I gain as much as experience as you guys a few years later, then I shall think about salary. By the way, their offer is about RM 3k.

Thanks. notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by alvinkhorfire: Aug 16 2012, 12:16 AM
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post Aug 16 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 09:12 AM)
Okay, I have read previous pages of this thread. The general consensus I obtain from this thread is that it is much better to work in EPC contractors, than in Oil and Gas consultants, especially in terms of job prospect. Am I right about this?  hmm.gif
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EPC contractor is good if you want to build your network, because you'll deal alot with the vendors, your clients and other parties, you'll also be exposed to both technical and commercial part of engineering which i must say is very important...
so in a way, the prospect is much better for EPC contractor...

However, if you want to learn basic engineering and design, consultants are much better, normally the engineering part of a project is outsourced to consultants (this depends on size of the project), for this case, EPC contractor will just do the procurement and construction, hence EPC consultant is not really the best platform to learn the basics of engineering as you will be constrained to commercial part of the project whereas consultants will emphasize more on ensuring the integrity of the engineering design...The downside of working as consultant is that your experience will mostly be limited to doing design works only, hence not much field exposure...

So in the end, it really depends on what u're after, if you want to do design and familiarize yourself with all the international/client design standards, then consultant companies (Ranhill Worley, Technip, Aker) are the best place to go... but if you want a more well-round role/experience, then EPC contractor is better...

My suggestion, go with consultant for few years, familiarize with the standards/codes used in O&G, then join EPC contractor, or better, join client terus.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM)
Oil and Gas Experts, I need your help in deciding which job offer I should choose. Any advice is very much appreciated.  notworthy.gif

I am a fresh graduate, and this shall be my first job in oil and gas industry. Hence, I want to treasure this golden opportunity and make the best of it. For that, the salary is not really a primary deciding factor. I want to prioritize in accumulating knowledge and experience, as to build my competences in this industry.

Which job is the best, especially in term of job prospect and career advancement?

1. TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd. (a SapuraKencana Petroleum company)
Field of Work of Company: Offshore Construction (International), Offshore Construction & Subsea Services. Transportation, erection and installation of offshore pipelines and facilities.
Post: Junior Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: being a field engineer. Other task is to use spreadsheet programs to perform engineering calculations.
2. Aker Engineering Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
Field of Work of Company: concept and feasibility studies, front-end engineering design and detailed engineering for new oil and gas production facilities offshore. (essentially this company is oil and gas consultant).
Post: Graduate Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: involved in HVAC design.

I like to perform engineering calculation and analyse theories. I am not saying that I will not perform project management, if I am assigned such task. I would prefer to deal with equipment, than to be involved in project management (handling client and contractors, attending meeting).
As for the job offer by TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd., I am told by HR department to collect and sign the Letter of Appointment tomorrow. Thus, I need to make the decision right now.

Thank you for your advice, guys. I would certainly appreciate any comment and advice.  notworthy.gif
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If you want to be a 'real engineer', go to Aker. Build up your engineering acumen first before you move to project management.
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post Aug 16 2012, 02:37 PM

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Hello for all the expert out there,anyone know about east 101?it is a good company to start up for O&G field?
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post Aug 16 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(niloas @ Aug 13 2012, 08:12 PM)
Wish to apply Kencana Bestwide as an Electrical Engineer. Heard they want to form an engineering department to do design. Anybody have experience about this company?
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I heard Kencana-Bestwide is dispersing
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post Aug 16 2012, 04:43 PM

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Any Java developer require in Oil & Gas industry company?

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post Aug 16 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 07:44 PM)
Oil and Gas Experts, I need your help in deciding which job offer I should choose. Any advice is very much appreciated.  notworthy.gif

I am a fresh graduate, and this shall be my first job in oil and gas industry. Hence, I want to treasure this golden opportunity and make the best of it. For that, the salary is not really a primary deciding factor. I want to prioritize in accumulating knowledge and experience, as to build my competences in this industry.

Which job is the best, especially in term of job prospect and career advancement?

1. TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd. (a SapuraKencana Petroleum company)
Field of Work of Company: Offshore Construction (International), Offshore Construction & Subsea Services. Transportation, erection and installation of offshore pipelines and facilities.
Post: Junior Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: being a field engineer. Other task is to use spreadsheet programs to perform engineering calculations.
2. Aker Engineering Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
Field of Work of Company: concept and feasibility studies, front-end engineering design and detailed engineering for new oil and gas production facilities offshore. (essentially this company is oil and gas consultant).
Post: Graduate Engineer.
My Possible Job Scope: involved in HVAC design.

I like to perform engineering calculation and analyse theories. I am not saying that I will not perform project management, if I am assigned such task. I would prefer to deal with equipment, than to be involved in project management (handling client and contractors, attending meeting).
As for the job offer by TL Offshore Sdn. Bhd., I am told by HR department to collect and sign the Letter of Appointment tomorrow. Thus, I need to make the decision right now.

Thank you for your advice, guys. I would certainly appreciate any comment and advice.   notworthy.gif
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TLO...ur going to do workpack after workpack icon_rolleyes.gif no engineering design or calculation involved, from what i have seen.

This post has been edited by feekle: Aug 16 2012, 05:41 PM
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post Aug 16 2012, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Aug 15 2012, 04:12 AM)
Okay, I have read previous pages of this thread. The general consensus I obtain from this thread is that it is much better to work in EPC contractors, than in Oil and Gas consultants, especially in terms of job prospect. Am I right about this?  hmm.gif
Examples are Shell, Petronas, ExxonMobil, Murphy Oil and so on. These companies are operating the ready-to-be-used oil rig to produce oil. However, they do not explore for new oil fields, nor install the rig themselves. These tasks are instead handled by oilfield service companies which are hired by the operators.
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Nonsense. Oil service company is just that. They provided service to the operators. They do not do any exploration (which is what looking for new oil field is all about). In fact no service company does exploration. Exploration is the highest risk activity in oil and gas and only operators do it.
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post Aug 16 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Aug 14 2012, 11:03 PM)
at shipyard?
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It's a shipping company, vessels chartered by oil and gas companies.

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QUOTE(niloas @ Aug 13 2012, 08:12 PM)
Wish to apply Kencana Bestwide as an Electrical Engineer. Heard they want to form an engineering department to do design. Anybody have experience about this company?
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To my knowledge, Bestwide handles overseas projects. Not sure if they have in-house engineering dept but to be honest, I never see Bestwide or Kencana as engineering companies.
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hi all

i would like to have advise n opinion from all the seniors about my situation here..

im a mechanical eng background, currently almost 3 yrs working in construction.. all this time, trying to jump into OnG field but still cant get the oppurtinity.. so i decided to continue study in M.Sc petroleum engineering to increase my chances on jumping into OnG.. is it a right step or not? your feedback is highly appreciated.. Tq
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post Aug 17 2012, 09:56 AM

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nope...

not a good idea.. petroleum engineering is different thing that you can expect from your relevant construction experience.

What you did in construction? engineering drawing?

I may suggest you do subsea/marine engineering electives. If in Glasgow Uni, they have one of this course.

Oil & Gas is broad. Don't confine it into petroleum engineering. Bet you, you won't like it in petroleum engineering + you'll find the opportunity is not that many as the construction businesses in O&G industry relatively.

PM me your interest and I shall reply to you and give some advice


Added on August 17, 2012, 10:05 am
QUOTE(feekle @ Aug 16 2012, 05:41 PM)
TLO...ur going to do workpack after workpack  icon_rolleyes.gif no engineering design or calculation involved, from what i have seen.
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I've worked with Kencana HL for maybe a few weeks?? but in Project Management Department.

I've seen my fellow friends under the sun running all around the yard to check his project in his supervision. Field Engineer in HL does not perform engineering things, but whipping everybody on site to get the job done. They're the site rep to communicate with PMD and PMD will deal with clients and vendor.

My advise, grab any offer you have unless you already secured AKER's offer.

Go with consultant even people will tell you, the experience is not realistic. Consultant will deal with the theories and etc2 but people on site knows better. At least, you start with somewhere.

This post has been edited by asdiqa: Aug 17 2012, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(tekkamen @ Aug 17 2012, 09:34 AM)
hi all

i would like to have advise n opinion from all the seniors about my situation here..

im a mechanical eng background, currently almost 3 yrs working in construction.. all this time, trying to jump into OnG field but still cant get the oppurtinity.. so i decided to continue study in M.Sc petroleum engineering to increase my chances on jumping into OnG.. is it a right step or not? your feedback is highly appreciated.. Tq
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No harm in doing that but not so sure whether it will increase your chances or not because Petroleum Engineering is not my field. There are a few seniors here that can you some opinions.

Anyway, since you have construction experience, you should try applying to fabricators such as MHB (fka MMHE), SapuraKencana (fka Kencana), THHE (fka Ramunia) and other smaller fabricators. Your experience should be relevant.


Added on August 17, 2012, 10:42 am
QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Aug 16 2012, 04:43 PM)
Any Java developer require in Oil & Gas industry company?

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I don't think so. Unless on IT/Support group like iPerintis or something.

This post has been edited by noruazumi: Aug 17 2012, 10:42 AM
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post Aug 17 2012, 11:04 AM

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[quote=noruazumi,Aug 17 2012, 10:40 AM]
No harm in doing that but not so sure whether it will increase your chances or not because Petroleum Engineering is not my field. There are a few seniors here that can you some opinions.

Anyway, since you have construction experience, you should try applying to fabricators such as MHB (fka MMHE), SapuraKencana (fka Kencana), THHE (fka Ramunia) and other smaller fabricators. Your experience should be relevant.


- thanks.. last time MMHE and SDE already called for interview but didnt get it sad.gif my current experience is more to HVAC.. so i think the chances are limited

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post Aug 17 2012, 11:29 AM

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[quote=tekkamen,Aug 17 2012, 11:04 AM]
[quote=noruazumi,Aug 17 2012, 10:40 AM]
No harm in doing that but not so sure whether it will increase your chances or not because Petroleum Engineering is not my field. There are a few seniors here that can you some opinions.

Anyway, since you have construction experience, you should try applying to fabricators such as MHB (fka MMHE), SapuraKencana (fka Kencana), THHE (fka Ramunia) and other smaller fabricators. Your experience should be relevant.
- thanks.. last time MMHE and SDE already called for interview but didnt get it sad.gif my current experience is more to HVAC.. so i think the chances are limited
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