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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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davinz18
post Jul 2 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2013, 03:51 PM)
based on my bank manager's advice, i took out a 100k loan for a very short 5 year tenure

after 1 yr, now banks are sending me cards w/o my approval. stupid banks. if want to send me cards oso dun send me mc world or visa infinite with just 10k limit...  laugh.gif
anyhow, the 100k i w/drew was placed in AS1M fund, as explained before, for leveraging purposes

now, instead of just earning 8% from ASB, i earn a total of 9.3% for the 100k sum, after deducting the interest rate  smile.gif
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I don't like when the banks would send all kind of "rubbish" to me. Offering me Insurance (they even given me insurance account number), calling me on my h/phone, Pre-Approved card etc.

Anyway, it's good decision to use your 100k loan to invest in as1m. ASB already max out? hmm.gif What my understanding, those already max ASB would be investing in as1m smile.gif

Enjoy your dividend compounding effect after few years biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 2 2013, 04:02 PM)
I don't like when the banks would send all kind of "rubbish" to me. Offering me Insurance (they even given me insurance account number), calling me on my h/phone, Pre-Approved card etc. 

Anyway, it's good decision to use your 100k loan to invest in as1m. ASB already max out? hmm.gif  What my understanding, those already max ASB would be investing in as1m smile.gif 

Enjoy your dividend compounding effect after few years biggrin.gif
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quite some time max liao

defintiely > 200k since all the dividends pile up

i am not too fond of the idea owing anyone's money


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post Jul 2 2013, 04:34 PM

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Is AS1M still available?
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2013, 04:04 PM)
quite some time max liao

defintiely > 200k since all the dividends pile up

i am not too fond of the idea owing anyone's money
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post Jul 2 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Jul 2 2013, 04:34 PM)
Is AS1M still available?
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for bumiputra quota, yes. always available


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2013, 04:45 PM)
for bumiputra quota, yes. always available
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thanks for the reply.. may i know what is the max quota for bumi? is it 200k like ASB?

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QUOTE(navink @ Jul 2 2013, 04:46 PM)
thanks for the reply.. may i know what is the max quota for bumi? is it 200k like ASB?
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i don't think so

as long as the units are still available, u can subscribe
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2013, 04:49 PM)
i don't think so

as long as the units are still available, u can subscribe
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thanks for the reply.. biggrin.gif

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Just looking at old thread V2. Saw a lot of people commented that AS1M Non-Bumi portion won't be sold out, expected dividend rate only 4%, suspicious why gomen open so many scheme etc. That time a lot of people don't wanna invest.

Now year 2013, AS1M non-bumi portion already sold out. Some people are going to the ASNB offices & banks daily to ask if there's any unit available. No one expected this scheme to be sold out smile.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 3 2013, 12:45 AM)
Just looking at old thread V2.  Saw a lot of people commented that AS1M Non-Bumi portion won't be sold out, expected dividend rate only 4%, suspicious why gomen open so many scheme etc. That time a lot of people don't wanna invest.

Now year 2013, AS1M non-bumi portion already sold out. Some people are going to the ASNB offices & banks daily to ask if there's any unit available. No one expected this scheme to be sold out  smile.gif
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If those people (who complained initially) ever read the quote by Buffet in your signature, they wouldn't be in such a predicament eh? tongue.gif hehehehe
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 3 2013, 12:45 AM)
Just looking at old thread V2.  Saw a lot of people commented that AS1M Non-Bumi portion won't be sold out, expected dividend rate only 4%, suspicious why gomen open so many scheme etc. That time a lot of people don't wanna invest.

Now year 2013, AS1M non-bumi portion already sold out. Some people are going to the ASNB offices & banks daily to ask if there's any unit available. No one expected this scheme to be sold out  smile.gif
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Yape, I managed to pump in most of my monies into the AS1M account during the time where everyone is so negative about the fund..

Unfortunately, when the fund first declare the dividend, everyone of the non-bumi rushed in to invest, making it full now..

As for ASW2020, I did not have the account so i dont even have the chance to trial and error at the counter unlike ASM and AS1M which I have the account and can try over the counter..
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 3 2013, 12:45 AM)
Just looking at old thread V2.  Saw a lot of people commented that AS1M Non-Bumi portion won't be sold out, expected dividend rate only 4%, suspicious why gomen open so many scheme etc. That time a lot of people don't wanna invest.

Now year 2013, AS1M non-bumi portion already sold out. Some people are going to the ASNB offices & banks daily to ask if there's any unit available. No one expected this scheme to be sold out  smile.gif
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jul 3 2013, 07:44 AM)
If those people (who complained initially) ever read the quote by Buffet in your signature, they wouldn't be in such a predicament eh? tongue.gif hehehehe
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Jul 3 2013, 09:08 AM)
Yape, I managed to pump in most of my monies into the AS1M account during the time where everyone is so negative about the fund..

Unfortunately, when the fund first declare the dividend, everyone of the non-bumi rushed in to invest, making it full now..

As for ASW2020, I did not have the account so i dont even have the chance to trial and error at the counter unlike ASM and AS1M which I have the account and can try over the counter..
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that's why i feel sad for my fello bumiputra friends

got money, go buy cars, hp and gadgets, holidays, vacations, and other tangible purchases

don't want to invest in AS1M, let alone ASB. others are fighting for the tiny funds left from the non-bumi quota...
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 3 2013, 09:19 AM)
that's why i feel sad for my fello bumiputra friends

got money, go buy cars, hp and gadgets, holidays, vacations, and other tangible purchases

don't want to invest in AS1M, let alone ASB. others are fighting for the tiny funds left from the non-bumi quota...
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Cant help it - need to show off to relative and neighbors rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Jul 3 2013, 09:24 AM)
Cant help it - need to show off to relative and neighbors  rclxm9.gif
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most of the time.. biar papa asal bergaya..

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just came back from maybank....first intention to apply for 2nd housing loan
and suddenly switch to asb loan....accidentally applied for 50k asb loan...hopefully everything will be ok
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post Jul 3 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Jul 3 2013, 11:29 AM)
most of the time.. biar papa asal bergaya..
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It's a malaise affecting the Malays in my books. To be fair, those who were part of the baby boomers generation were awesome savers. The savings rate back in the day was easily triple to what it is today. I guess these generation knew how hard money was to come by and wanted to be sure that every single cent is made to work just as hard for them.

However, it would be quite simplistic to generalize that all Malays save poorly. I think because in general the majority of Malaysians are Malays, even if 1% of the entire Malay population have little or zero financial literacy, the number can easily look very big. What I've realized is that financial literacy is highest among the Chinese but that too, only in the Gen-X age group. This generation still went through a rather "tough" growing up phase where wealth was still quite limited.

Gen-Y and millennials however are a different story. These are the one's where wealth has already been built-in to their respective families and the story of "how hard it was to make money" may not have been repeated nor felt by them. Ask any UTMC and they will tell you that these age-groups represent the smallest number of customers (exclude amount in comparison) compared to the other age groups. Some may say that this is due to the fact that they don't have much to save but I'm of the opinion that these people do not see the reason to save and/or invest because wealth seems to be already part of their lives.

When it comes to these age groups, savings rate are at an all time low while private/personal debt levels are the inverse of the former. Again, just my 2 cents based on my own personal observation and hypothesis.
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QUOTE(anz87 @ Jul 3 2013, 12:02 PM)
just came back from maybank....first intention to apply for 2nd housing loan 
and suddenly switch to asb loan....accidentally applied for 50k asb loan...hopefully everything will be ok
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u can always cancel the ASB loan anytime after 2 yrs w/o any penalty

before this you can cancel anytime w/o any penalty



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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jul 3 2013, 01:53 PM)
It's a malaise affecting the Malays in my books. To be fair, those who were part of the baby boomers generation were awesome savers. The savings rate back in the day was easily triple to what it is today. I guess these generation knew how hard money was to come by and wanted to be sure that every single cent is made to work just as hard for them.

However, it would be quite simplistic to generalize that all Malays save poorly. I think because in general the majority of Malaysians are Malays, even if 1% of the entire Malay population have little or zero financial literacy, the number can easily look very big. What I've realized is that financial literacy is highest among the Chinese but that too, only in the Gen-X age group. This generation still went through a rather "tough" growing up phase where wealth was still quite limited.

Gen-Y and millennials however are a different story. These are the one's where wealth has already been built-in to their respective families and the story of "how hard it was to make money" may not have been repeated nor felt by them. Ask any UTMC and they will tell you that these age-groups represent the smallest number of customers (exclude amount in comparison) compared to the other age groups. Some may say that this is due to the fact that they don't have much to save but I'm of the opinion that these people do not see the reason to save and/or invest because wealth seems to be already part of their lives.

When it comes to these age groups, savings rate are at an all time low while private/personal debt levels are the inverse of the former. Again, just my 2 cents based on my own personal observation and hypothesis.
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actually, it's not just malays, i was referring to bumiputras as a whole - ibans, bidayuh, kadazan, melanau included

not taking dvantage of the ASB


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 3 2013, 02:47 PM)
u can always cancel the ASB loan anytime after 2 yrs w/o any penalty

before this you can cancel anytime w/o any penalty
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don't understand flex.gif
both argument same meaning
what the differences after and before

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