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KLKS
post Dec 6 2014, 08:20 PM

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the frame is sliced into multiple parts and joined with screws and nuts, some people used epoxy as I've read.
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:24 AM

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Started my first print yesterday! Very happy with the result. Glad to be joining the club.

Although having some filament stripping issues. Still troubleshooting
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:08 AM

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Started my first print yesterday! Very happy with the result. Glad to be joining the club.

Although having some filament stripping issues. Still troubleshooting
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Mirror bed, cool.
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(altan @ Dec 5 2014, 05:42 PM)
You mean your hotend or extruder gear or extruder motor worn out?
gear seem fine and sharp motor are fine too, it only happen when filling up large perimeters such as 10x10cm box I can hear and see the extruder try to jam the filament in and almost look like something blocking it which really effect my print quality now when printing large part, my prime suspect is the PTFE sleeve inside the hotend it might already worn out I guess to time to open it again for cleaning up

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post Dec 8 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Dec 6 2014, 08:14 PM)
How can you print a frame that's biggest than the platform? Or is this frame a smaller version?
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KLKS already answered that but anyway, in both the links, the Prusa frame have been sub divided to fit in a 6" x 6" bed so you can print a frame larger than the bed itself but it requires some assembly. It may look ugly and the warping may cause the two joining parts to look out of shape but you still get to print stuff bigger than the printer itself. Besides, thingiverse stuff are supposed to be designed for the makerbot bed profile.

I have in my project pipeline to design and print a fully printable track based robot that will be bigger than my printer bed profile of 6" x 6" after assembly but now not motivated since I am not done with my video editing for my current robot. Also, a little short on cash for the project too... sweat.gif

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Started my first print yesterday! Very happy with the result. Glad to be joining the club.

Although having some filament stripping issues. Still troubleshooting
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thumbup.gif super nice, glad it worked out well.


QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Dec 8 2014, 11:35 AM)
gear seem fine and sharp motor are fine too, it only happen when filling up large perimeters such as 10x10cm box I can hear and see the extruder try to jam the filament in and almost look like something blocking it which really effect my print quality now when printing large part, my prime suspect is the PTFE sleeve inside the hotend it might already worn out I guess to time to open it again for cleaning up
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Another suggestion is to replace the PTFE tubing with a new one because I did come across a PTFE tubing that had severe carbonation at the hotend end, it just keeps jamming non stop even after cleaning. Replacing the whole hotend that has a new PTFE sleeve helps solve the problem but I now have an unusable hotend without a replacement sleeve. Trying to find the correct size PTFE tube has been a pain all this time. rclxub.gif

On a side note, I found that the carbonation is usually caused by burnt PLA when PLA left in the hotend at high temperatures (above 200 Deg C) for prolong periods of inactivity. So, normally I keep my hotend around 180 Deg C and only ramp it to the print set temp only when starting a print.

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post Dec 8 2014, 11:31 PM

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Hmm. Solved the filamemt stripping issue. When i first tried to fix it, i loosen the tension on the idler pulley. Apparently the fix is the opposite of that. Tightened the idler bearing tension. And the issue is gone.

Now im still figuring out why my z height is off when printing. A 20mm calibration cube comes out with height 19.2 mm. Although the height is consistently off by 0.8mm. X and Y axis is fine.

Anyone with any idea of what is off?
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Dec 8 2014, 11:31 PM)
Hmm. Solved the filamemt stripping issue. When i first tried to fix it,  i loosen the tension on the idler pulley.  Apparently the fix is the opposite of that. Tightened the idler bearing tension.  And the issue is gone.

Now im still figuring out why my z height is off when printing.  A 20mm calibration cube comes out with height 19.2 mm. Although the height is consistently off by 0.8mm. X and Y axis is fine.

Anyone with any idea of what is off?
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You can readjust the Z-axis step_per_mm from the EEPROM of the firmware by using Gcode M92 Z??? or follow the instruction here http://reprap.org/wiki/Calibration#X_.26_Y...mm_calculations

Some math example of how to find the correct step per mm, the correct step per length is = (correct length) divided by (printed/physical length) multiply by (current steps per mm for that axis shown in EEPROM)

If you are using Repetier-host, you can easily change the EEPROM setting for your connected printer from the config menu without using any Gcode.

Besides that, I am surprised you can get the X and Y axis accurate without calibration. Also you might want to print an object with a hole in it because there are cases where the inner diameter is inaccurate while the outer diameter is accurate. You won't be able to adjust for the inner diameter because that will affect the outer diameter accuracy unless you compromise by calibrating with the tolerance, so your outer and inner will be say 0.25 mm larger for a tolerance of 0.5 mm.

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DarkTenno
post Dec 9 2014, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(altan @ Dec 8 2014, 11:50 AM)
Another suggestion is to replace the PTFE tubing with a new one because I did come across a PTFE tubing that had severe carbonation at the hotend end, it just keeps jamming non stop even after cleaning. Replacing the whole hotend that has a new PTFE sleeve helps solve the problem but I now have an unusable hotend without a replacement sleeve. Trying to find the correct size PTFE tube has been a pain all this time. rclxub.gif

On a side note, I found that the carbonation is usually caused by burnt PLA when PLA left in the hotend at high temperatures (above 200 Deg C) for prolong periods of inactivity. So, normally I keep my hotend around 180 Deg C and only ramp it to the print set temp only when starting a print.
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yeah finding the PTFE tubing might be a epic search and Christmas is near everything from china will slow like hell as usual as they start on holiday mood, I usually stop buying stuff during this period of time every year, I'm bless to have 2 (almost 3) printer having 1 in maintenance mode will not affect me much tongue.gif

EDIT:

I think I can get away from search PFTE sleave and buying this instead

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M6x26-Stainless-St...=item3a9599a32a

thumbup.gif thumbup.gif I can still reuse the heating block and the nozzle, but I will order few extra nozzle just incase

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post Dec 9 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Dec 9 2014, 09:10 AM)
yeah finding the PTFE tubing might be a epic search and Christmas is near everything from china will slow like hell as usual as they start on holiday mood, I usually stop buying stuff during this period of time every year, I'm bless to have 2 (almost 3) printer having 1 in maintenance mode will not affect me much tongue.gif

EDIT:

I think I can get away from search PFTE sleave and buying this instead

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M6x26-Stainless-St...=item3a9599a32a

thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif I can still reuse the heating block and the nozzle, but I will order few extra nozzle just incase
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I found a local supplier for PTFE tubing. They only sell their tube in metrics. They don't have ID 3.40mm,the nearest is ID 4mm, RM45/meter.
ID 2mm, RM35/meter. Minimum length is 1meter.

http://www.preeco.com.my/index.php?ws=show...ic#openproducts

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post Dec 9 2014, 10:50 AM

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well worst come to worst I can just cut a bit off my kossel bowden tube smile.gif but not sure it will fit into the metal throat, I will need ID2 as using 1.75mm filament here and RM45/meter is expensive I can get on ebay for RM25/meter if I don't mind the wait smile.gif

and 3dprinter.my selling them too for RM30/meter a bit cheaper than your source biggrin.gif

http://3dprinter.my/abante/extruder-and-ho...ube-id2-x-od3mm
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post Dec 9 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Dec 9 2014, 10:50 AM)
well worst come to worst I can just cut a bit off my kossel bowden tube smile.gif but not sure it will fit into the metal throat, I will need ID2 as using 1.75mm filament here and RM45/meter is expensive I can get on ebay for RM25/meter if I don't mind the wait smile.gif

and 3dprinter.my selling them too for RM30/meter a bit cheaper than your source biggrin.gif

http://3dprinter.my/abante/extruder-and-ho...ube-id2-x-od3mm
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Ya i realize it's expensive too. Still looking for other supplier.

I think by the time i finish my 3d printer,i can start shop supply 3d printer parts.
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:00 AM

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Found another supplier.

Yureka
http://www.yureka.com.my/Contact+Us_7_1.htm

OD 6mm ID 4mm RM18/meter
OD 4mm ID 2mm RM13/meter
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Dec 9 2014, 11:00 AM)
Found another supplier.

Yureka
http://www.yureka.com.my/Contact+Us_7_1.htm

OD 6mm ID 4mm RM18/meter
OD 4mm ID 2mm RM13/meter
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nice! they even using hand drawn maps how cool is that tongue.gif thumbup.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:04 AM

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There's another one http://www.systech-ind.my/product/214/PTFE...ml#.VIZjRvktfDc

i didn't call up to enquire. if you interested to compare price. please share here if you do

Local Suppliers List

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post Dec 9 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(DarkTenno @ Dec 9 2014, 10:50 AM)
well worst come to worst I can just cut a bit off my kossel bowden tube smile.gif but not sure it will fit into the metal throat, I will need ID2 as using 1.75mm filament here and RM45/meter is expensive I can get on ebay for RM25/meter if I don't mind the wait smile.gif

and 3dprinter.my selling them too for RM30/meter a bit cheaper than your source biggrin.gif

http://3dprinter.my/abante/extruder-and-ho...ube-id2-x-od3mm
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You might have to measure the PTFE tubing in the hotend because a lot of times they come in different ID and OD sizes. As an real example, I just measured the PTFE tubing for the china J-head hotend and its OD is 6.3 mm and ID is 2 mm while another hotend the JGR Alu-hotend has a PTFE OD of 4 mm and ID of 2 mm which matches with the tubing used in Bowden drives.

QUOTE(feiming @ Dec 9 2014, 11:00 AM)
Found another supplier.

Yureka
http://www.yureka.com.my/Contact+Us_7_1.htm

OD 6mm ID 4mm RM18/meter
OD 4mm ID 2mm RM13/meter
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Nice find and speaking about buying Teflon tubings, I bought 50 meters of OD/ID 4/2mm teflon tube from a Singapore supplier for about SGD 5 per meter (about RM 13 per meter). Planning to sell it along with a Bowden upgrade kit for reprap printers when I finalized my Bowden drive design, its the one in the youtube video.

I could sell the tube without the kit but I think the delivery for you guys is going to be very costly. whistling.gif
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post Dec 9 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Dec 9 2014, 05:40 PM)
You might have to measure the PTFE tubing in the hotend because a lot of times they come in different ID and OD sizes. As an real example, I just measured the PTFE tubing for the china J-head hotend and its OD is 6.3 mm and ID is 2 mm while another hotend the JGR Alu-hotend has a PTFE OD of 4 mm and ID of 2 mm which matches with the tubing used in Bowden drives.

Nice find and speaking about buying Teflon tubings, I bought 50 meters of OD/ID 4/2mm teflon tube from a Singapore supplier for about SGD 5 per meter (about RM 13 per meter). Planning to sell it along with a Bowden upgrade kit for reprap printers when I finalized my Bowden drive design, its the one in the youtube video.

I could sell the tube without the kit but I think the delivery for you guys is going to be very costly. whistling.gif
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50 meter?? So long? The price i got was for small quantity.They will entertain if you drop by to buy 1 meter.

you could cut to size and use pos express to ship. Shipping is about rm3.50 like that

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post Dec 9 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Dec 9 2014, 05:49 PM)
50 meter?? So long? The price i got was for small quantity.

you could cut to size and use pos express to ship. Shipping is about rm3.50 like that
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Yup, it comes in a reel too but that was a year ago when I bought it. At that time, I was unable to find any supplier willing to sell small quantities, so I am left with that option.

Nice suggestion with the pos express, will try that some time.

Also, I am getting 15 meters of GT2 belting from China and if anyone want some you can combine with the Bowden tubing. The belting is as pricy as the Teflon tubing. sweat.gif



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post Dec 9 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Dec 9 2014, 06:00 PM)
Yup, it comes in a reel too but that was a year ago when I bought it. At that time, I was unable to find any supplier willing to sell small quantities, so I am left with that option.

Nice suggestion with the pos express, will try that some time.

Also, I am getting 15 meters of GT2 belting from China and if anyone want some you can combine with the Bowden tubing. The belting is as pricy as the Teflon tubing.  sweat.gif
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i got 2 supplier for that too. but i haven't go and find them or call for pricing.

KT MACHINERY & BEARINGS SDN BHD
http://www.infopages.net.my/company/kt-mac...n-bhd-3189.html
No. 37, Jalan SB Indah 1/2A,Taman Sungai Besi Indah, 43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor
+603 8943 6339

BELT-TECH ENGINEERING SUPPLIES SDN BHD
http://www.belting.com.my/fproduct01.html
No. 134, Jalan Radin Anum Satu, Sri Petaling, 57000 Kuala Lumpur
+6(03)-90572531, 90572532, 90587975

I updated the list of local supplier on Malayisa reprap user group.http://reprap.org/wiki/RUG/Malaysia#Local_Suppliers

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post Dec 9 2014, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(feiming @ Dec 9 2014, 06:06 PM)
i got 2 supplier for that too. but i haven't go and find them or call for pricing.

KT MACHINERY & BEARINGS SDN BHD
http://www.infopages.net.my/company/kt-mac...n-bhd-3189.html
No. 37, Jalan SB Indah 1/2A,Taman Sungai Besi Indah, 43300 Seri Kembangan, Selangor
+603 8943 6339

BELT-TECH ENGINEERING SUPPLIES SDN BHD
http://www.belting.com.my/fproduct01.html
No. 134, Jalan Radin Anum Satu, Sri Petaling, 57000 Kuala Lumpur
+6(03)-90572531, 90572532, 90587975

I updated the list of local supplier on Malayisa reprap user group.http://reprap.org/wiki/RUG/Malaysia#Local_Suppliers
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Nice, good find but have you contacted them regarding the pricing and if they are willing to sell in small amounts?

A lot of times, these suppliers don't entertain small quantities and simply ignore or overcharge the item just to get rid of small buyers.


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Nice, good find but have you contacted them regarding the pricing and if they are willing to sell in small amounts?

A lot of times, these suppliers don't entertain small quantities and simply ignore or overcharge the item just to get rid of small buyers.
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I'll let u know this thursday

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