16mp vs 41mp isnt cute enuf.heard some ifag meh on 41mp n claimed their 8mp is the BEST in the world.

yes,im dreaming.

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Added on March 6, 2012, 11:49 ami downloaded the picture n try to zoom.thats reli nice.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Mar 6 2012, 11:49 AM

waseh... photo just announce got 43 pages edi, salut man

btw, i hope rangers can get this unit

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Mar 6 2012, 12:16 PM

ranger?lol.i hope too.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Mar 6 2012, 12:21 PM

actually, last i checked, Nokia is also performing quite well in audio quality.

BTW, Monsters audio are not really that good in the higher end price range, audiophiles labelled them as overpriced craps, as some friend of mine told me that for those price they offer, u can get tons of better hearphones out there that performs way better. They are that famous now all thanks to their marketing only

monster is an overpriced crap,i agree but the voice recording in 808 is pretty decent according to some review.
combination of high end GPU+so so CPU again.aiks...

are u sure this is a high end GPU? i scare it's just a GPU that is very good in multimedia encode decode but so-so graphical performance. BTW the processing of 41MP and oversampling is done by another chip(or the camera itself, i cant remember) before sending to the GPU to process, so that, as the camera division representative said, "will be able to retain more detail and have better end result image"

oh ya,companion chip for the cam processing.

and damn lol, Olympus is bashing 808 for being utterly useless
many android fanboys and those that only know a little bit about photography(just knows more megapixel is bad for camera image) is bad for image keep bashing Nokia and 808 for being lousy, using numbers to do marketing gimmick and all, and they never even read the whole thing about how 808 operates by default, it just made me laugh.

sometimes, the internet can provide you with so much entertainment.

i believe nokia always giv their phone just enuff to do what it has to by default. they wont consider to giv u the best of anything because to them its simply unnecessary. so the gpu is ok for the job its design to do. not for playing games...

I believe right now, how Symbian operates is rather similar to Windows Phone, where they get the hardware, and they optimize the software for the hardware given, which is why it takes so long for them to brush up a new Symbian version, and why their spec is always so outdated and limited, because optimization is a long, tricky step.
Where android, hardware manufacturers (or rather, chipset providers) will need to code their drivers/ROMs and deliver to google to inspect, which also sometimes makes devs' life harder as there are difference between those hardware and they need to code for all those hardwares(although i think most of the time they shouldnt be majorly different). But with that, the whole OS need to cater for wide range of software possibilities with all the different codes from manufacturer, therefore it's not that easy to optimize.

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Mar 6 2012, 01:37 PM

oh welcome back, bear bear XD...

i think i need saving up for D800 and drawing tablet first before i change to this epic phone :I

lulz, thanks
for drawing tablet, look for Galaxy Note 10.1, i think that will suit your need, since it comes with a S-pen
and the moment i get this phone(which i hope to get it), i think my LX-3 will be even rarely used

i thinking sell my ipad... get a proper laptop instead lol... but you mentioned gelaxy note 10.1... oh wait got this!?
i duno got ipad version size of note lol.

i m so outdate lol...not really follow android new ><

but i think get proper laptop better, can edit photo on the go too.

but this is last thing i wan get la.

This post has been edited by Agito666: Mar 6 2012, 02:07 PM

it's newly announced on MWC 2012, it's like Galaxy Tab, but has a S-pen that comes with it(i don't know about the other details), i figure out if you want a drawing tablet that should be the best

and Nic, about the audio recording, i recall it has nothing to do with Monster? I read the interview with Damian Dinning from gsmarena, it just says
"My understanding of how the algorithm works, is that it handles the audio in two different ways—a regular level and a higher level—and then combines the information."
basically, like a HDR version of audio

OT:

dont like get tablet i think lol.... now my ipad also rarely to play with...not even draw...because the speed of drawing really slow to follow my stroke and i kinda not really like to tap undo button in corner...yeah also need careful to avoid touching capasitive screen since i aready get used to put my palm on "paper"/board/screen.

so drawing on tablet is like err...not really suitable on me, i m thinking get a new drawing tablet and plug in laptop lol XD

This post has been edited by Agito666: Mar 6 2012, 02:21 PM

The ranger programme still ongoing? Wanna wait for reviews yo.

yes still ongoing, i disappear for such long time cos my work is killing me, basically almost no time at all to do other things, and finally, i have sometime to spare now, when all the rushing will come to its end soon

Haha... I like this question because for a lot of people, what they see matters, not the time it takes to finish a task.

Still, with N9 Swiping motion, its possible to make up for the time loss while doing processing.

For Nokia, every series has it's specificic category:
7 series is usually the "designer" series, it's not cheap and the design usually looks "special" or "unique", designer-mah.

Before the N series, it's more clear, like 5 series, for outdoor/sports people, 6 series for working people, 8 series is the expensive/high class series, 9 series for profesionals (e.g. communicator), etc.
N series, they still maintain pretty much the same, but not as clear.

7650, 3650, 3660, 6600, 6630... N-Gage, those days, we can install N-Gage games on those other Symbian Smartphones, and the games are awesome (KOF on a smartphone yo! and you can bluetooth multiplay yo!), while others are playing ugly low end Java games, we get to play high end N-Gage games! The 6600 is the best with the "joystick". Those days... 0.3MP phone, "color screen" yo! BUT... one big problem, MONO speaker and quality is crap, when ringtone rings, it sound like "speaker pecah", many people jump ship to SE for the speaker and "K" series for the camera.

Ooops, 88mph --> travels back to current time.


Actually old or new doesn't matter; It's more important to use a better OS. In this case, Symbian VS WP? Symbian still is a better choice anytime, anyday.

With current WP, there's too much restrictions and limitations; Until MS fix this and stop COPYING iOS, it will not be any good. Imagine, you cannot even transfer a picture via bluetooth.
You connect to a PC, you cannot access the internal memory, so no access to the file, not even the Camera folder; You need to have ZUNE installed on the PC. It's just so stupid... Wait, what is a smartphone again?
This is so NOT Microsoft. They followed iOS path in delivering a stable, smooth and reliable OS, but they also follow their path in delivering the restrictions and limitations. It's like copying the advantages of something, at the same time, also copy the disadvantages.


From what we heard, it's not promising for Symbian future. It's like full force WP soon.

But, this is really a problem; If you check Nokia Malaysia FB, there seems to be many complains from loyal Nokia user for many many years; Imagine suddenly, supposedly, you "upgrade" to a new phone, but suddenly, you feel "downgraded" instead with all the limitations and restrictions. Their comments/complains on the experience is really bad, and actually I have mentioned this before, it's important how Nokia planning to get these people to change?
Let's say my uncle, who is not really exposed to the internet, and they don't do what-stupid-zune thing, what stupid SkyDrive or Cloud computing, what must-have-data thingy. They will face many issue and frustration when using Windows Phone, imagine they can't send songs, can't send pictures, etc. to their friends, wife, relatives, etc. SUCH SIMPLE TASK cannot be done easily.
In fact, there're MANY MANY such users, especially those Nokia loyal users for many many years. The buy Nokia because how great it is last time, they still can live with Symbian because they can still operate it and live with the lag/bug; It's still not as bad as the restrictions and limitations.

WP seems more suited for people who:
1. Must have a computer --> Zune
2. Must know Internet, and use WIFI or better have data plan
3. Must have WindowsLive ID

They might also need to know about SkyDrive, Marketplace and such.

Unlike Symbian, it's actually not as easy to use for the senior generations who are not well exposed and what's worst, most of them are long time loyal Nokia users; And now if Nokia decides to ditch Symbian and WP full force, they might face major issue.

It's a stupid move, especially how Jobs tries to convince his customer how EDOF is better, only his loyal blinded fans will support him, but it will do them no good because if they support and agree, means it will never change.
If it's not good, just admit and feedback, so they can change, don't blindly say good. At least now it's no longer EDOF.

The lame stupid "excuse" given was "fast, no auto-focus needed".
Errr, I can turn off auto-focus or use landscape mode, also no need to auto-focus what.
With N9, you can capture even the focus not yet lock. So, the best is, provide more options and choice for users; Not follow Mr. Jobs, don't give something then give lame "excuses".

Better get a proper notebook. Many people get a tablet, then later found that what they actually wanted was a tablet that can work like a Windows Tablet, you can install Windows Software, etc. But the tablet nowadays is not like that. Just like people who get iPhone, then they find actually they want a more PC-Like experience, instead of a multimedia player.

Back then, when smartphones were introduced, it was meant to be a "Pocket Computer", Computer in your Pocket. Manufacturers tries hard to developed an OS which can gives better experience like having a real computer in the size of the palm/ or pocketable.
Then comes Mr. Jobs, he successfully changes the world, by making an MP3 player evolved device, a smartphone; And everyone started to "desire for it"; It's main attractions is the apps/games, so as long the OS support apps/games, you don't need all those Computer Like feature/experience. Easier to develop, easier to maintain, easier to control.
Actually, many people don't really need/want a "computer like" device in a size of the palm, so the iPhone is good enough, as long as it have tons of apps/games.
For those who wanted more, will start to venture into other more flexible, customizable OS, like Androids; but there's no denying, something is still missing, you still need the computer when you can't do somethings. The same feeling goes to the Tablet, despite having a powerful Android tablet, you will feel, I can't do this, I can't do that. So, those that feel it, may eventually wanted a real Tablet.
Before these tablet, there were actually a real Tablet PC, a notebook with swivel LCD running on Windows XP.

So, for your case, better get a proper notebook than these tablets. Eventually you will find there's still many things cannot be done in these kind of tablet, which are still worst than a netbook.

ya, or i just wait for the tablet launch see i need it or not, what i worry is tablet cant do proper artwork in larger resolution... laptop can, but need a drawing tablet for my case lol...i eyeing intuos 5, got touch input summore lol XD