kindredd owns a speedster s40, you can ask him about  his height and frame size...

i usually don't think it is a good practice to choose frame size based on height...

there are 3 factors that affects a frame..

1) inseam - controls the length between your saddle and fully extended crank arm (6 o'clock position), but seat posts can be adjusted and seat post length is very long nowadays... so, not too important and quite an invalid thing...

2) torso length - controls your handlebar reach, in other words effective top tube length, also can be adjusted with stem but better to get the correct size since lengthening or shortening the stem can affect the handling characteristics of the bike...

3) your flexibility - this is a question only you will know, as the frame geometries can be classified into 2 main ones... race and endurace / comfort / what the guai los call "sportive"...  generally race geometries offer a shorter head tube length and gives you more handlebar drop from your saddle... this requires you to have good flexibility as it will strain your back... endurance geometries usually have a more longer head tube so you site more upright for long distances... each to their own advantage...

so, 1 frame size might work for a 171cm guy but not another 171cm guy as both of you have differences in your anatomy...

nowadays, some people like to adopt the "pro" look which causes them to buy frames slightly or 2 sizes smaller than what they should buy to adopt that look... as they say, never try to imitate... if you can do it, you will do it without problems... else, you suffer for it...

i am confusing you further, ain't i 

Hm.. insteam.. How do i know how much to raise or lower the seatpost eh? Torso length.. Does it mean if i have bend too low means it is too big? How do i know if its too low or too high though?
I bought the bike already.. So now juz wondering, if its bigger then my actual frame size.. What can i notice? Coz i don't actually know how a perfect fit bicycle would feel.. As i feel just fine riding my bike..

Sorry if i got too many question =_+"

Hm.. insteam.. How do i know how much to raise or lower the seatpost eh? Torso length.. Does it mean if i have bend too low means it is too big? How do i know if its too low or too high though?
I bought the bike already.. So now juz wondering, if its bigger then my actual frame size.. What can i notice? Coz i don't actually know how a perfect fit bicycle would feel.. As i feel just fine riding my bike..

Sorry if i got too many question =_+"

seat post height depends on your legs.

here you go: http://www.bikeradar.com/fitness/article/t...ht-right-14608/

easier than me trying to type out how to find the fit and risk messing it all up

For your bike fit, what kinda distances have you been riding your bike so far? Its not something that you'll notice on short distances. Its only when you start riding beyond 30km per session then you may start noticing the issues.

Try to ride for a longer distance and see if your seat bone is aching or feeling like a mild bruising..if it is, then try to lower down your seat post mm by mm to a more comfortable seating. With bike adjustment, the best way is to readjust and readjust until you satisfied 

Oh.. Okey thanks.. Should hav google-ed for it. lol. Just don't know what to search
So far its only like 10-15km ride Haven't even go beyond 20km. Hahas.. So if i feel something, what should i do? Can i make minor adjustment like stem length or crank arm length?

Hmm.. possible adjustments are the saddle position (forward/backwards and the tilt of the saddle). Handlebar position also can be adjusted to a certain degree if you're using a riser bar.

Stem length, don't think you can just this, but they do sell stems with different lengths.

This is why its important to get fitted properly before getting the bike, cause once you get it, you're mainly stuck with the size that you get.

Anyone ride tomorrow? i will do bt14-genting perez-bkt hantu-and back to bt14 again with a friend..let's roll!

its off road for me tomorrow! Putrajaya jamboree.

But planning to do the Broga Loop next Sunday.

oowh got jamboree issit? have funn~ btw what's the distance for overall broga loop ride? how many climbs? I'm planning to try it soon 

Broga loop's a total of 115km. never done the full loop before, only the perez portion of it, so can't really comment on the rest of it that much

But from the terrain elevation data (http://www.mapmyride.com/s/routes/view/road-cycling-map/selangor/63409206) it seems that there's 2 main climbs, one is Perez and the other is about 15km from after you hit the other side of Perez. Steeper climb, but shorter distance.

This link here is really cool

http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/render_rou...e=mapmyride.com

Hm.. insteam.. How do i know how much to raise or lower the seatpost eh? Torso length.. Does it mean if i have bend too low means it is too big? How do i know if its too low or too high though?
I bought the bike already.. So now juz wondering, if its bigger then my actual frame size.. What can i notice? Coz i don't actually know how a perfect fit bicycle would feel.. As i feel just fine riding my bike..

Sorry if i got too many question =_+"

Anyone ride tomorrow? i will do bt14-genting perez-bkt hantu-and back to bt14 again with a friend..let's roll!

the article malleus posted is useful... there is no right or wrong about saddle height... but it is possible that you set it too high to the point that your hips start rocking trying to pedal.. then, that is wrong...

about your handlebar reach, it depends if you feel that you are too outstretched when holding your handlebars... if you feel so, (and since you have already bought your bike) you can still see if you can stack your stem higher (first choice since doesn't cost $) to achieve a better seated position... else, you can always swap for a shorter stem...

normally stock stem, people would go longer rather than shorten it as manufacturers will play it safe by spec'ing stem lengths of around 80-90mm which is relatively short for roadies...

how low you can bend while holding the drop bars depends entirely on your flexibility... that itself is very loosely related to your geometry...
if broga is the backyard of my house, i'd go every weekend... unfortunately, it is 30-40KMs just to get there...

in a dirty way or you meant cutting your steerer and lowering your stem to the max?

if broga is the backyard of my house, i'd go every weekend... unfortunately, it is 30-40KMs just to get there...

yeah, i've adjusted my saddle height and position according to the site and youtube. It improves alot on my seating comfort but i still not sure about the handlebars.. Not sure if it is too high or too low.. Or whether i need to change longer stems. Hahas..
But overall seams okey for 10km rides

of course la! what else would it be?

if the Broga loop is already 115km, then you can maximize your riding by adding another 30-40km x2 to it