so your land got 2 houses la.. is it ? kampung house or what.. why so nice can have 2 side by side one ?

my land space is big but the house itself is small..main house is only 23x43 (panjang)...so at the back of the house i extended the new house..so i dont disturb existing main house..cost i already budget..cause if want to renovated all..no budget...next if i got budget..then i renovated the main house..without disturbed the newly extended house...so my master bedroom is at the abck of the house.

my house land size is 50x100 feets

my house plan.... ...using Sweet Home 3D software.

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Wow, big house. From the diagram it is bigger than 23x43 la. 4 rooms but can accommodate 6 cars!!!. You can have a lory + cars.

You know if you live in selangor you can get some free water I think 20 cu meter per house. when you have two houses in one you rugi 20 cu meter. Moreover the more you use the more expensive it is. That means you pay much more. And if you have two meter the pressure will not be constraint by one half in meter pipe. Two meter each with half inch means equal to one 3/4 inch pipe. Oh yes if you use PVC thick pipe the volume is smaller than it should be if you were to use other type of pipe like ABS or s/s or even coper and poly. This is especially so if it is half inch PVC class 7. So, considering the requirement of the thickness of the pipe wall to withstand pressure, ABS is better than PVC. So long as the pipe is not underground you cannot get acid like in the wall I think ABS is a better choice in these circumstances.

TQ steve8...the drawing i design for my front house is cater when i want to renovate my front house..there is no porch that can accommodate 6 cars yet..that my dream..hehehe...not start saving for my front house renovation....for my newly extension house at the back is attached to the existing front house...i did not apply new water meter. for my main pipe after meter using 1 1/4 inches pipe..then branches into two..the water volume and pressure is good..no drop of pressure.

I went to a hardware shop yesterday. The shopkeeper told me that it is better to use a very thin stanless steel pipe now availble, not the old usual thick one. It is cheaper than copper pipe and stronger and better in many ways compared to PVC, poly, ABS (in volume and strength, durability and easy fixing and to change screwing and unscrewing). The fittings/joint use copper compression fittings and outlet use stainless steel head. What you say?

ya...i agreed with you..i notice that stainless steel when syabas change my main pipe before meter last week..i notice that the stainless steel quite thin like what you said..for new reno house better use this stainless steel like what you said....maybe a bit costly compared to poly...but this SS is good whoever what to install pump..can stand pump pressure.

SS fitting quite expensive compared to PVC, GI, Poly & ABS. Furthermore not all hardware shop is selling it.

Poly the bulky thing is not cheap either. GI you should forget about it unless you still want to live in caves (just joking). Of course when we do something we have to see what it is use for and decide what material is best for it. It is not ss, ss, ss like that. You should advise your hardware shop to get these for his customers lor what to do, everybody has to be alerted to progress. You help him he help you.

No la you mistaken. No, not using SS fittings. it use copper fittings. The "old" SS pipe is thick and expensive because it uses SS fittings that you have to make the pipe end with thread like GI pipe. to do that thread it has to be thick otherwise it will be too thin to take the pressure/weight of the compress fittings. Now with this thin ss, it has to use copper fittings. You see someone discovered why not use thin ss instead of expensive copper pipe by using copper ring compression fittings. Small idea great invention/discovery.

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won't the ss piping rust ? cause from what i understand usually the water isn't clean and it contains some small amount of rust.. either from main or what ever..

if a little amount somehow get stuck between the copper joint/ss pipe it will eventually spread.. not like they using medical grade ss

yes..it depend on the impurity of the SS..some manufacture had 'campur' the ss with other thing, mau untung lebih...so it depend on the manufacture..but i believed if SIRIM approved, no problem.

SS will rust but only on a small spot or at the contact point between metals. The ss are grade 304 or 18/8 (18% chromium and 8% nickel) which will rust if use with sea water. the small spot will grow slowly and by the time it penentrate the steel all your other piping like PVC or ABS by then already rot! Choose one that is smooth surface. Sirim approved dont give you anything. Anything that is 304 will be approve and not whether it will rust or not. GI also got sirim approval and the approval is refering to it is GI as claimed.

i dont mean that the SIRIM approved is not rust..but the quality at least better than without SIRIM..

Yes the approval make sure it is true as claimed as far as quality is concerned.

update on the pic my ABS that eat by anti termite acid as i mention before.

so the best pipe is still copper pipe compared to ss pipe. what is the price different between copper and ss pipe.

is this really eat into the pipe or its taken off the outer blue color ?

it really 'leak'..my water bill cost RM80 and the water flow to my neighbour house. all 5 locations where i put the anti termite.

Just curious, what termiticide did you use? Were you supposed to dilute it first before pouring it into the ground?

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Added on April 3, 2012, 8:05 amyes, sure already dilute but still the ABS cannot stand.

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