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skng03
post Feb 24 2012, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 24 2012, 09:44 PM)
Here is this filter cheap and easy to replace cartridge (the filter).
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no doubt the filter casing is cheap, but the 5 micron filter cartridge sold at jusco cost rm12/pc, and here in kl i need to change it every two week esle will face low pressure in the house, not really cheap in long run
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post Feb 24 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 24 2012, 09:51 PM)
@stevie8 , nice suggestion ...

is it placed under the sun ? , does alge grow ? in the enclosure ?
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Hahaha, you are one smart fello. Alge will grow only when I shut it off. Our tap water has chlorine and that kill any micro organism. I shut off one of it and no long algea grow. Just dont know how algea can get in??? And yes under the sun. This filter housing can take sun heat and UV.


Added on February 24, 2012, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(skng03 @ Feb 24 2012, 09:55 PM)
no doubt the filter casing is cheap, but the 5 micron filter cartridge sold at jusco cost rm12/pc, and here in kl i need to change it every two week esle will face low pressure in the house, not really cheap in long run
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For RM12 I can get 4 pcs 5 microns in Jalan Pasar, Tesco or Giant and pasar malam. You could have bought from a shop in jusco? who specialised in water filter. those people sell in small quantity and also buy in small quantity of course have to mark up high. You can buy from me if you want to half price rm6 a pc. I'll buy from tesco and re-sell you okie?

Didn't I show you the pix how to overcome low pressure? Look and study the pix ok?

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post Feb 24 2012, 10:14 PM

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@stevie8 , possible to snap and share a pic of your water filter installation ?


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post Feb 24 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 24 2012, 10:14 PM)
@stevie8 , possible to snap and share a pic of your water filter installation ?
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It is dark. will do tomorrow
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post Feb 24 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 24 2012, 10:15 PM)
It is dark. will do tomorrow
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post Feb 24 2012, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 24 2012, 10:07 PM)
For RM12 I can get 4 pcs 5 microns in Jalan Pasar, Tesco or Giant and pasar malam. You could have bought from a shop in jusco? who specialised in water filter. those people sell in small quantity and also buy in small quantity of course have to mark up high. You can buy from me if you want to half price rm6 a pc. I'll buy from tesco and re-sell you okie?

Didn't I show you the pix how to overcome low pressure? Look and study the pix ok?
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I tried those cheap 5micron cartridge from hardware shop, it useless lar.
u try to get one inside jusco, not small shop outside jusco. Brand ue-tec if i remember correctly then u compare the quality:)


Running 3 filter in parallel is a good solution but not quite suitable for condo/apartment lar.
And i use ss rocket type filter now since i move to my current house, no need the hassle to change the cartridge whistling.gif

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post Feb 24 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 24 2012, 10:07 PM)
Hahaha, you are one smart fello. Alge will grow only when I shut it off. Our tap water has chlorine and that kill any micro organism. I shut off one of it and no long algea grow. Just dont know how algea can get in??? And yes under the sun. This filter housing can take sun heat and UV.


Added on February 24, 2012, 10:13 pm
For RM12 I can get 4 pcs 5 microns in Jalan Pasar, Tesco or Giant and pasar malam. You could have bought from a shop in jusco? who specialised in water filter. those people sell in small quantity and also buy in small quantity of course have to mark up high. You can buy from me if you want to half price rm6 a pc. I'll buy from tesco and re-sell you okie?

Didn't I show you the pix how to overcome low pressure? Look and study the pix ok?
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I m using this kind filter case but not the same filter material as your 1. The filter you using is something like rough sand surface. I use before and not that effective in filtering rust brown water. And very fast clog.

I change to those string line type which have better filtering. And have better flow .
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post Feb 24 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Feb 24 2012, 10:37 PM)
I tried  those cheap 5micron cartridge from hardware shop, it useless lar.
u try to get one inside jusco, not small shop outside jusco. Brand ue-tec if i remember collectly then u compare the quality:)
Running  3 filter in parallel is a good solution  but not quite suitable  for condo/apartment lar.
And i use ss rocket type filter now since i move to my current house, no need the hassle to change the cartridge whistling.gif
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Agreed there are many brands and I also come across those expensive ones. The important thing is the brown dirt didn't show up at the middle/center of the filter cartridge, meaning the dirt did not pass thru. For sand filter it is 10 microns to 20 microns and if you dont backwash often the rust dirt will get into your house. Back wash take too much time and a lot of water wasted and can never backwash completely unless the water pressure is very high and you backwash a few times one go. If you are a sand filter user you will know when you back wash the dirty water come out and in a few minutes the water turn clear but when you backwash again immediately brown (not as brown as first time backwash) water coming out again. That mean the backwash is not effecient.

Sand filter will reduce flow and pressure. And most of all you got to backwash weekly, not monthly. One sand filter RM1xxx you can buy many many many......... filter cartridges over many years beside the troble to backwash and wasted water that you could use to shower plants. For all these reason plus sand getting into my tap, tanks, washing machine, etc that is why I go for this simple yet effective solution. When face with problem we are push to be creative.

For condo you might want to use two in parallel, I used to use 4 in parallel. Because have to change 4 so I reduced it to 3 and now to 2 only becasue the flow and water pressure was not much affected and my areas water pressure is high 40 to 60 psi. That is why I said algae grow when I shut one off. Becaue of that I cut them off and now use two. For areas with low water pressure use 3 or 4. The more in parallel the more complicated and space required to fix them.

Use a bit of imagination you can have parallel for apartment too. There got to be a way when you have the will. Why not take a pic and I might be able to give you some idea.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 24 2012, 10:53 PM)
I m using this kind filter case but not the same filter material as your 1. The filter you using is something like rough sand surface. I use before and not that effective in filtering rust brown water. And very fast clog.

I change to those string line type which have better filtering. And have better flow .
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post Feb 24 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 24 2012, 10:53 PM)
I m using this kind filter case but not the same filter material as your 1. The filter you using is something like rough sand surface. I use before and not that effective in filtering rust brown water. And very fast clog.

I change to those string line type which have better filtering. And have better flow .
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You are right "rough face" but that is 10 micron type. Not good. I also tried the string line type, yes it is better last longer, not easily clogged but still it is 10 microns. When clogging and pressure is a problem use more in parallel. In my areas there are ppl using only one at the meter because we have no pressure and flow problem.
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 24 2012, 11:06 PM)
You are right "rough face" but that is 10 micron type. Not good. I also tried the string line type, yes it is better last longer, not easily clogged but still it is 10 microns. When clogging and pressure is a problem use more in parallel. In my areas there are ppl using only one at the meter because we have no pressure and flow problem.
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1 general filter at the meter side enough for me. The string line type is good enough and I change it every month.

Than in the kitchen below the sink, have another charcoal filter to clear up the water and neutralize any smell. This change every 3 month.
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post Feb 25 2012, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 24 2012, 11:43 PM)
1 general filter at the meter side enough for me. The string line type is good enough and I change it every month.

Than in the kitchen below the sink, have another charcoal filter to clear up the water and neutralize any smell. This change every 3 month.
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Hai ya what same like me la? I use the charcoal for my drinking water filter. RM10 only a piece. It also absorbs chlorine and chemicals. You will know it is time to change when the water smell chlorine but I change it early. Cheap ma. In fact it can last a year according to its recommended volume. This are activated carbon block make from coconut shells. The best activated carbon as recommended and widely use in US for water purification use together with RO. In fact WHO recommended it to be save to drink once water passed the activated carbon filter.
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Nice info n discussion but we r out of topic.....

Should continue here
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 25 2012, 12:05 AM)
Hai ya what same like me la? I use the charcoal for my drinking water filter. RM10 only a piece. It also absorbs chlorine and chemicals. You will know it is time to change when the water smell chlorine but I change it early. Cheap ma. In fact it can last a year according to its recommended volume. This are activated carbon block make from coconut shells. The best activated carbon as recommended and widely use in US for water purification use together with RO. In fact WHO recommended it to be save to drink once water passed the activated carbon filter.
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Actually the water is just for washing, bathing and some small cooking. Hardly use for drinking. That is why the basic filtering is more than enough for me. smile.gif

Sorry out of topic. tongue.gif
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post Feb 25 2012, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 24 2012, 10:14 PM)
@stevie8 , possible to snap and share a pic of your water filter installation ?
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Hi Jin,

We are out of topic. Anyway a promise is a promise, see pix below
Attached Image click pix 1 to see waterflow direction on the pix
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From the pix you can see there suppose to have 3 filters but I cut off one. 2 is enough. I also have a pressure meter installed to check water pressure how much it drop when turned on taps in the house. usually drop less than 10psi from 40 to 35 or from 60 to 55.

The filter is 3/4 inch pipe female, to connect it to the flexible hose I use a reducer to 1/2 inch male. The reason I use this type of stainless steel flexible hose is because the diameter is as big as the copper tube and will have better flow if I were to use the normal cheaper flexible hose. Look at the pix below and compare.
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post Feb 25 2012, 02:03 PM

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@stevie8 , thanks

back to the ABS piping.. euratech piping says usually ABS pipe is used for chemicals and etc eg acids and all

@tomjason , your abs pipe is what rating or specifications one ?


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Just decided to use poly for the main hose and pvc class class 6 for the supply hose any suggestion ???
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Im using poly from main to tank and abs from tank to toilets. Since poly fittings is damn huge and you wont have proper way to conceal poly fittings inside the wall ...
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QUOTE(soonyeap @ Feb 26 2012, 11:03 PM)
Im using poly from main to tank and abs from tank to toilets. Since poly fittings is damn huge and you wont have proper way to conceal poly fittings inside the wall ...
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actually there is a kind of poly fittings that is small enough to be embedded into the wall

its called hansen fittings.. from nz..

local manufacturer is sansico .. smile.gif i used that to redo my whole house piping smile.gif

for those that want to know more > http://www.sansico.com.my/technical-data-m...a-fittings.html
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Feb 25 2012, 01:52 PM)
Hi Jin,

We are out of topic. Anyway a promise is a promise, see pix below
Attached Image click pix 1 to see waterflow direction on the pix
Attached Image

From the pix you can see there suppose to have 3 filters but I cut off one. 2 is enough. I also have a pressure meter installed to check water pressure how much it drop when turned on taps in the house. usually drop less than 10psi from 40 to 35 or from 60 to 55.

The filter is 3/4 inch pipe female, to connect it to the flexible hose I use a reducer to 1/2 inch male. The reason I use this type of stainless steel flexible hose is because the diameter is as big as the copper tube and will have better flow if I were to use the normal cheaper flexible hose. Look at the pix below and compare.
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TQ steve...thanks for sharing.


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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Feb 25 2012, 02:03 PM)
@stevie8 , thanks

back to the ABS piping.. euratech piping says usually ABS pipe is used for chemicals and etc eg acids and all

@tomjason , your abs pipe is what rating or specifications one ?
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i will check my ABS type..if possible i take the photo of the ABS after eaten by acid.



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