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MeToo
post Feb 15 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 01:02 PM)
if you go autobavaria or sunway workshop, guaranteed they are going to strangle you alive.

i bought the car on the same time my colleague got a waja. let me tell you something, he spend a lot more for maintenance compared to me.

failed radiator, twice failed power windows, failed fuel pump  doh.gif

me? just regular oil change .. and 17" tire.
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Ya ya I agree with u!

BMW no problem.. so cool.. can get much face compared to driving proton...

My colleague 5 series no problem... each service only cost RM1500...

Oh ya.. last service brake disc slightly thin... change lor.. that service only cost RM3000...

Oh ya... last month his wishbone back suspension got some rubber thing cracked... change only RM5000 mah...

WHo so dumb dumb buy Proton... BMW better for sure bro! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 01:19 PM)
Ya ya I agree with u!

BMW no problem.. so cool.. can get much face compared to driving proton...

My colleague 5 series  no problem... each service only cost RM1500...

Oh ya.. last service brake disc slightly thin... change lor.. that service only cost RM3000...

Oh ya... last month his wishbone back suspension got some rubber thing cracked... change only RM5000 mah...

WHo so dumb dumb buy Proton... BMW better for sure bro!  thumbup.gif
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aiyo, your fren so funny.

go buy rm40k bmw la. thing spoilt you go buy half cut la. so simple!

why buy new car when you can have old one at 15% price only!!!

my fren's fren's fren service cheaper than waja, his bmw use mineral oil, and another waja so funny use fully syn, rclxub.gif

everyday got ugly chick nagging him to send them home!!

the best part is.....what car do you drive? BM..... whistling.gif

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Jazz6218
post Feb 15 2012, 01:26 PM

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lol old old bm,gal dun like 1 laugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 12:05 PM)
Smart wor... who will so dumb buy Proton?! Only people with no money will ever buy a proton man.

Especially those over glorified Inspira with their Campro engine.. sigh... E36 sure blow them all out of the water lah! Can get more chicks also!
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proof pls inspira using campro
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QUOTE(Jazz6218 @ Feb 15 2012, 01:26 PM)
lol old old bm,gal dun like 1  laugh.gif
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my wife said, those old old old car ( regardsless of brand) got some pee smell inside lol laugh.gif so i cannot buy used car tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Feb 15 2012, 01:27 PM)
proof pls inspira using campro
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/81308317.gif/

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2226255/+120
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 01:30 PM)
looooool!
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:37 PM

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inspira cheapskate please dont bring your troll to this thread, otherwise this thread will be 100page never end story.

i want puke already with shyt campro on your car

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 01:30 PM)
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:43 PM

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First thoughts: Doesn't look bad. The Tuah front was nicer, but oh well. Reminds _a lot_ of the Euro style Civic, if everything would be covered by glass.

That is one ugly rear spoiler! Totally ruins the lines. Is it really necessary? If so, couldn't it have been included into the lid?

Interior is decent from what I can tell. The passenger side looks very much like a VW.

ESC and TC!!!

There is a button for the seatbelt reminder?

I hope the location for deactivating the passenger airbag is a bit more hidden... usually the indicator is on the dashboard, and you deactivate it for example next to the driver door, with the car keys. However that may be too much effort for Malaysians to bother when they carry their kids.

It'd be nice if the driver also has a way to unlock from his side... in my Renault the button is in the center, so driver and passenger can reach it.

A 12V socket in the rear is very much appreciated.

I wonder if the 2 side airbags are of the combined type... that is normally there is a side airbag and a window airbag, but some cars combine those, so while they officially have only 4 airbags it is as if they had 6.

Over all a good effort. Could be a 12000 Euro car perhaps in top spec, which would be competitive. They could price it higher than that... going against i30 and cee'd.

This won't replace the Inspira, people still need a car they can mod into an EVO. smile.gif

In Germany taxis used to be Mercedes la... it's not bad to drive a taxi. I think Mercedes E class is still most common, followed by VW Passat and Touran. (Merc does offer specially prepared cars with longer lasting brakes etc. and better service for Taxi drivers, and customers prefer to take the E class as a taxi).

Btw. turbo can help reducing FC thumbup.gif

I'd just crash the P3-21A into a Vios. That should be enough. But then again I guess there is a gentleman's agreement to not do such a direct comparison.

Perhaps compare the car against contis twice the price instead. Like Focus, C4, Golf. Well, if it is good enough of course. i.e. be so arrogant to not even compare against those Japs, because it's mean to pick on enemies that have no chance.

In any case I'd stress the safety features. Something like "Proton P3-21A. Because we care about you."? "Proton P3-21A. The safe choice." The ad could show 2 or 3 cars, P1, T and H, driving along when suddenly there is the need to make an evasive maneuver. T and H lose control, P1 doesn't, thanks to ESC. Slow motion videos of a Proton during a crash test could be shown, so slow that it makes it look like falling into a soft, nice pillow. Especially the side ones, which, surprise, T&H don't have.
It might be hard to stress a feature that doesn't bother many, but that can be changed (the other Protons are a problem though, as they aren't exactly meant to be very safe).

@stormlcc: The only conti that comes to mind is the Fiesta sedan... it is a safer car, but it is also smaller and more expensive. Not to mention Sime Darby. The Japanese cars really are no competition at all, the only thing that speaks for them is reliability (sure, a horse cart is also very reliable) and brand. LED daytime running lights increase the safety (you make other cars not crash into you thumbup.gif), that is very much a feature that I want (have to upgrade my car...). Also, the Japs in this price range are B segment cars. This is C segment, the only competition it has is the Forte.
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nice review from real enthusiast thumbup.gif , yes i also agreed if their compare with continental rather than japs, with 5star NCAP and offer with low price. maybe this market strategy to take-out japs domination in the car segment

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nice observation u got there notworthy.gif
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good good.

last time you trolls compare proton with perodua

then later on you compare with toyota and honda

now you compare with BMW.

i can see proton making improvement.

maybe in 10 years can compare with lambo hmm.gif whistling.gif
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Thanks! I remember the website for the new Merc B class, where they stressed how the car was tested, how it was developed, how expensive it was to develop etc.

Maybe (if the effort put into this car was impressive) they could do something similar. Even as an ad... newspaper, TV... something like: 100 designers. 2000 engineers. 200 test vehicles. 10 million km. 100 crash tests. We proudly present: The new Proton P3-21A (maybe a shot of all the employees that were involved standing around the car, like shot from a helicopter cause it's too many).

In any case there should be a lot of focus on the testing. Hopefully they had a camera team recording everything, show how they tested the prototypes for many many km on really poor roads, how the engines have done 300000 km and more (well, if they have of course), how Proton has focused on improving the quality both in developing the car and in QC. Many are worried about QC, so I think any good campaign should stress improvements in those areas (and if there weren't... forget about the car).
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QUOTE(be7a @ Feb 15 2012, 02:12 PM)
good good.

last time you trolls compare proton with perodua

then later on you compare with toyota and honda

now you compare with BMW.

i can see proton making improvement.

maybe in 10 years can compare with lambo hmm.gif whistling.gif
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but, the buzzer when headlamp is ON already on my 20 freaking years old car.

and proton put it as SMART FEATURE next to onboard modem.

wow. just wow.
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 02:14 PM)
but, the buzzer when headlamp is ON already on my 20 freaking years old car.

and proton put it as SMART FEATURE next to onboard modem.

wow. just wow.
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they got say it's new meh? that feature was already present in the satria neo whistling.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 15 2012, 02:12 PM)
Thanks! I remember the website for the new Merc B class, where they stressed how the car was tested, how it was developed, how expensive it was to develop etc.
Yeah true... maybe they should just practice with a short one using Proton Inspira.

They can just go to the Mitsu factory and make a short film there... but need to photoshop the worker's uniform lah to Proton Logo tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 02:14 PM)
but, the buzzer when headlamp is ON already on my 20 freaking years old car.

and proton put it as SMART FEATURE next to onboard modem.

wow. just wow.
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please wait when its oficially launch..this is internal slides for god sake doh.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 02:16 PM)
Yeah true... maybe they should just practice with a short one using Proton Inspira.

They can just go to the Mitsu factory and make a short film there... but need to photoshop the worker's uniform lah to Proton Logo  tongue.gif
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during the visit, ask those jap chicks change to proton uniform la.

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