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post Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Feb 15 2012, 11:46 AM)
this one from perodua lar
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the FLX one,

Pressure Your Peer, right?

that was lame.
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM

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Well look at it this way.....

Proton have not come out with a car that once I saw it I think "OMG!! I HAVE to buy it!"... yet

Do I expect Proton to come out with a total superstar that will blow T & H out of the market? Not really...

IT might look impressive on paper.... but.... i have a nagging feeling... things will not be a rosy in reality..
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QUOTE(zhngmykahzhng @ Feb 15 2012, 11:01 AM)


Start it the right way if this car really worth it and do it like a big man if this is the global market car. All the best!!!! [Don't just stop at only "Lagi Power, Lagi Best"] smile.gif
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THE Best slogan for local car, just like honda the power of dreams.

lagi power, lagi best rclxms.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(bojek @ Feb 15 2012, 06:07 AM)
I'm sure when the car come out later, it will wow if not all, some of the Toyota/Kia/Honda enthusiast due to its spec. alone, plus,not to say cheap but  the price is very competitive for a high spec at 75k.

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QUOTE(zhngmykahzhng @ Feb 15 2012, 11:01 AM)
Proton should advertise the car in a more positive way like the strong chassis, handling and torque /speed in some good scene with challenging road. Dont just show some padi field or old balik kampung scene or even throwing the car from a monster that not really interest the potential buyer.

How can a boot space able to fill in more durians can interest the buyer? Even if you attempt a more glamorous city sky-scraper or 5 stars hotel grand entrance with a slow motion with nicely tux guy or well dress bootylicious girl, it will not interest the buyer because the car is not at a premium /luxurious line.

A turbocharge car should put in the more aggressive and stylish street legal aspect then slowly the goodies shall be known as worth it.

Boastful paper specs with too many gadgetry from Proton is no longer capturing the market. Show us more videos like maybe "The making of P321A" documentary style and build back the confidence. Don't act childishly like those KL Drift or arrogance thrashing competitor cars like Top Gear. Even those local media car tune magazines should provide unbiased review.

Start it the right way if this car really worth it and do it like a big man if this is the global market car. All the best!!!! [Don't just stop at only "Lagi Power, Lagi Best"] smile.gif
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yeah true....they need new agency...to think how to capture the ppl laugh.gif ....for me..with all the features..i wld buy tis car...great promising engine can coop with all my 75% aggressive time style of driving...normally ppl upgrade for more spec n comfortably car.....not from comfort car to racing car... better buy 1 economy family relax car and another 1 for racing biggrin.gif ...
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
the FLX one,

Pressure Your Peer, right?

that was lame.
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if your peer driving vios city, they will said, meh...

if your peer driving other proton/p2, they will say, local car only ma.

so, no pressure biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
the FLX one,

Pressure Your Peer, right?

that was lame.
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malay version, kawan anda pasti cemburu..also lame.. doh.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
the FLX one,

Pressure Your Peer, right?

that was lame.
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That was FLX SE...


QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
THE Best slogan for local car, just like honda the power of dreams.

lagi power, lagi best  rclxms.gif
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When the FLX was first launched it came up with a more tarded version of "Lagi Best"..... "It's Even Better."

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 15 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 11:51 AM)
Well look at it this way.....

Proton have not come out with a car that once I saw it I think "OMG!! I HAVE to buy it!"... yet

Do I expect Proton to come out with a total superstar that will blow T & H out of the market? Not really...

IT might look impressive on paper.... but.... i have a nagging feeling... things will not be a rosy in reality..
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even if they do... proton has its branding the wrong way for more than a decade...
only people on a budget will buy proton doh.gif
and people are willing to stretch a bit just not to get a proton doh.gif


Added on February 15, 2012, 11:57 am
QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 11:52 AM)
if your peer driving vios city, they will said, meh...

if your peer driving other proton/p2, they will say, local car only ma.

so, no pressure biggrin.gif
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i like the Scirocco slogan: "Ye shall be good..." rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Feb 15 2012, 11:57 AM
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Feb 15 2012, 11:56 AM)
even if they do... proton has its branding the wrong way for more than a decade...
only people on a budget will buy proton doh.gif
and people are willing to stretch a bit just not to get a proton doh.gif
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people with budget but have some SENSE in their head will just avoid it.

my mother told me to get a BLM, my father said waja.

i just straight use the deposit money to get an old junk, E36.

best.decision.ever
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post Feb 15 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 12:00 PM)
people with budget but have some SENSE in their head will just avoid it.

my mother told me to get a BLM, my father said waja.

i just straight use the deposit money to get an old junk, E36.

best.decision.ever
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how much is the first maintenance? tongue.gif

btw, if sales pwning car, i think kancil and viva should be the winner!

about commercial, can't say la, lol, later maybe they make a commercial about the car being very fast chasing by a ufo? lol, they got ridiculous idea, look at savvy's doh.gif
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 12:00 PM)
people with budget but have some SENSE in their head will just avoid it.

my mother told me to get a BLM, my father said waja.

i just straight use the deposit money to get an old junk, E36.

best.decision.ever
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Smart wor... who will so dumb buy Proton?! Only people with no money will ever buy a proton man.

Especially those over glorified Inspira with their Campro engine.. sigh... E36 sure blow them all out of the water lah! Can get more chicks also!
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Feb 15 2012, 12:05 PM)
how much is the first maintenance?  tongue.gif

btw, if sales pwning car, i think kancil and viva should be the winner!

about commercial, can't say la, lol, later maybe they make a commercial about the car being very fast chasing by a ufo? lol, they got ridiculous idea, look at savvy's  doh.gif
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Just make a commercial of the car pwning Vios and City lookalikes rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 10:12 AM)
local car at higher price, very hard la.

u see, inspira which is a lancer, cannot pwn honda city and vios!!  imagine that.

a lancer cannot pwn city and vios.

this turbo car....well....its not going to lure the vios and city buyer.

its for persona/gen2/saga owner to upgrade. and frankly speaking, the first turbo mass prod car, ppl are sketical.
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not alot of ppl buy mitsu lancer in real as well
so inspira won't do that much better
inspira is at a class of it own and this p3-21a is also at a class of its own
1 using 2.0L mivec...1 is turbocharged 1.6L
in terms of spec and price already beat both but ppl will still buy vios because of brand and face...


Added on February 15, 2012, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(zhngmykahzhng @ Feb 15 2012, 11:01 AM)
Proton should advertise the car in a more positive way like the strong chassis, handling and torque /speed in some good scene with challenging road. Dont just show some padi field or old balik kampung scene or even throwing the car from a monster that not really interest the potential buyer.

How can a boot space able to fill in more durians can interest the buyer? Even if you attempt a more glamorous city sky-scraper or 5 stars hotel grand entrance with a slow motion with nicely tux guy or well dress bootylicious girl, it will not interest the buyer because the car is not at a premium /luxurious line.

A turbocharge car should put in the more aggressive and stylish street legal aspect then slowly the goodies shall be known as worth it.

Boastful paper specs with too many gadgetry from Proton is no longer capturing the market. Show us more videos like maybe "The making of P321A" documentary style and build back the confidence. Don't act childishly like those KL Drift or arrogance thrashing competitor cars like Top Gear. Even those local media car tune magazines should provide unbiased review.

Start it the right way if this car really worth it and do it like a big man if this is the global market car. All the best!!!! [Don't just stop at only "Lagi Power, Lagi Best"] smile.gif
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well..the thing is proton's aim is low income and middle income group that is simple minded
using simple thing to explain to them makes them easy to understand
how to easily make them see how big is the boot is to see how many durian or watermelon can be put inside there
hahaha tongue.gif


Added on February 15, 2012, 12:38 pm
QUOTE(MeToo @ Feb 15 2012, 12:05 PM)
Smart wor... who will so dumb buy Proton?! Only people with no money will ever buy a proton man.

Especially those over glorified Inspira with their Campro engine.. sigh... E36 sure blow them all out of the water lah! Can get more chicks also!
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ya...E36 very nice oh
who doesn't want
u can afford the car...can u afford the maintainance?...spare parts?
most ppl think they just have to pay for the car and nothing else
they never think abt what need to pay after buying the car
minor and major service, tyres, faulty spare parts, road tax, insurance

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 15 2012, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 12:00 PM)
people with budget but have some SENSE in their head will just avoid it.

my mother told me to get a BLM, my father said waja.

i just straight use the deposit money to get an old junk, E36.

best.decision.ever
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LOL, same like me, bought an old E30 coupe lately. i'll never listen to my parent's advice about cars, they have been "advising" me for 13 years, i listened once when i'm buying my first car, sold it after 1 year and swore never to listen to them ever again. imagine, my dad drives a Toyota Unser even though he can buy something that is 10 times better.....

back to topic, 65-75k for a proton sedan is just overpriced, come on, add a bit more u can get japs and contis. if proton wants to capture more market share, their sedans shouldn't be priced more than 65k. I don't want stupid LED headlights or stupid info display thingy on the dash. I want an affordable, comfortable sedan with a good engine, not adding more gimmicks so that they'll spoil after a year or two. Proton is on the right track on the FLX 1.6, now where's the Saga with the Exora Bold turbo engine?

and what's with the headlight buzzard thingy? this "technology" is so old it predates my grandma, don't make me laugh

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 15 2012, 12:38 PM)
LOL, same like me, bought an old E30 coupe lately.  i'll never listen to my parent's advice about cars, they have been "advising" me for 13 years, i listened once when i'm buying my first car, sold it after 1 year and swore never to listen to them ever again.  imagine, my dad drives a Toyota Unser even though he can buy something that is 10 times better.....

back to topic, 65-75k for a proton sedan is just overpriced, come on, add a bit more u can get japs and contis.  if proton wants to capture more market share, their sedans shouldn't be priced more than 65k.  I don't want stupid LED headlights or stupid info display thingy on the dash.  I want an affordable, comfortable sedan with a good engine, not adding more gimmicks so that they'll spoil after a year or two.  Proton is on the right track on the FLX 1.6, now where's the Saga with the Exora Bold turbo engine?

and what's with the headlight buzzard thingy?  this "technology" is so old it predates my grandma, don't make me laugh
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The standard price for C-segment without heavy taxes is around RM 6x to 8x,xxx.

A Corolla in China costs between RM 60k to RM 89k.

P 3-21 A competes against Corolla rather than Vios.

That said, I do understand why people choose a Vios or City. However, I think, we should reserve our judgment, only when people tried it, tested it or the first batch of users smile.gif
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 15 2012, 12:27 PM)
ya...E36 very nice oh
who doesn't want
u can afford the car...can u afford the maintainance?...spare parts?
most ppl think they just have to pay for the car and nothing else
they never think abt what need to pay after buying the car
minor and major service, tyres, faulty spare parts, road tax, insurance
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if you go autobavaria or sunway workshop, guaranteed they are going to strangle you alive.

i bought the car on the same time my colleague got a waja. let me tell you something, he spend a lot more for maintenance compared to me.

failed radiator, twice failed power windows, failed fuel pump doh.gif

me? just regular oil change .. and 17" tire.
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 01:02 PM)
if you go autobavaria or sunway workshop, guaranteed they are going to strangle you alive.

i bought the car on the same time my colleague got a waja. let me tell you something, he spend a lot more for maintenance compared to me.

failed radiator, twice failed power windows, failed fuel pump  doh.gif

me? just regular oil change .. and 17" tire.
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well good choice, no one force you to take proton right? it's depend on individual needs with brand or affordable. every car sure got wear and tear parts so cant agreed more about lot maintenance issue. who knows what major prob will happen with your car near soon and suddenly cost you more than your car? cross finger

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QUOTE(kcng @ Feb 15 2012, 01:09 PM)
CVT... puik....

real man drive stick
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Feb 15 2012, 01:02 PM)
if you go autobavaria or sunway workshop, guaranteed they are going to strangle you alive.

i bought the car on the same time my colleague got a waja. let me tell you something, he spend a lot more for maintenance compared to me.

failed radiator, twice failed power windows, failed fuel pump  doh.gif

me? just regular oil change .. and 17" tire.
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hmm..i've a waja as well
other than power window which i didn't bother to fix
pretty much the car is problem-free
just need to do regular service only
my dad didn't take care of it well also no problem and by not taking care well i mean his theory of service is
1st service 5000...next service 10000KM...and by 10000KM is not 10000KM in meter...is adding 10000KM to that 5000
got 1 time he never service the car for 20k KM

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