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post Aug 15 2013, 05:23 PM

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post Aug 16 2013, 11:21 PM

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Wanted to buy a new external harddisk, but why got so many different variants with the same capacity but different price from 1 manufacturer? (BTW, I want to buy from IPMart is it reliable?)

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/WD,M...php?prod=378478

and

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/West...php?prod=351129

Why got RM10 difference? The expensive one better?

or should I go back to Seagate?

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Seag...php?prod=351904

Because currently I have been using my Seagate FreeAgent GO 320GB for more than 4 years and it is still running well, just that its storage is full already, no way I am going to delete files in them


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post Aug 18 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 16 2013, 11:21 PM)
Wanted to buy a new external harddisk, but why got so many different variants with the same capacity but different price from 1 manufacturer? (BTW, I want to buy from IPMart is it reliable?)

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/WD,M...php?prod=378478

and

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/West...php?prod=351129

Why got RM10 difference? The expensive one better?

or should I go back to Seagate?

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Seag...php?prod=351904

Because currently I have been using my Seagate FreeAgent GO 320GB for more than 4 years and it is still running well, just that its storage is full already, no way I am going to delete files in them
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WD Passport includes a backup utility that "automatically" helps you back up your files when it is connected to your PC.
Personally I find softwares like this intrusive and stupid. If you are having an external HDD, chances are you are backing up your stuff manually anyways.

RM10 is nothing much, but I'd personally go for the Elements as it has no software in it. Just plug and play.

Othrewise if you like the looks of the Passport or the Seagate Backup Plus, you can permanent delete the software by reformatting the drive before use.
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:30 PM

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i have this internal hard drive, which i used as external hardrive with a external casing i bought few years ago. lately i have problem starting the hard drive (still can use, but need to switch on the external casing on and off a few times).... usually it's the hard drive or the external casing's problem??

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post Aug 20 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(sblsbl @ Aug 20 2013, 03:30 PM)
i have this internal hard drive, which i used as external hardrive with a external casing i bought few years ago. lately i have problem starting the hard drive (still can use, but need to switch on the external casing on and off a few times).... usually it's the hard drive or the external casing's problem??

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You can use HDDScans to get the SMART after you connect successfully to your Windows PC, then try to verify the issue from there, if you can't get the SMART through the USB controller then you need to plug into a desktop system and get it from there.
If your HDD does not support SMART then you can try to verify by plug-in other HDD of the same size into the external casing and see if the same issue arise.
Also test your current HDD by plug-in to a normal desktop system and test it to see if it has trouble starting up, normally you can hear the sound better by locate the HDD outside of the casing, you should be able to hear the motor and head seeking noise.

Good luck. wink.gif

p/s: Hope you can understand my language, I'm pretty straight forward here, assuming you know some of the technical get around. blush.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 20 2013, 04:38 PM)
You can use HDDScans to get the SMART after you connect successfully to your Windows PC, then try to verify the issue from there, if you can't get the SMART through the USB controller then you need to plug into a desktop system and get it from there.
If your HDD does not support SMART then you can try to verify by plug-in other HDD of the same size into the external casing and see if the same issue arise.
Also test your current HDD by plug-in to a normal desktop system and test it to see if it has trouble starting up, normally you can hear the sound better by locate the HDD outside of the casing, you should be able to hear the motor and head seeking noise.

Good luck. wink.gif

p/s: Hope you can understand my language, I'm pretty straight forward here, assuming you know some of the technical get around. blush.gif
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thank you so much! i dont have other hDD or desktop to do the testing,so i will try the SMART thing, haha, not really understand, but will google.

if it's working, do you know the "market price" for these types ofused hard disk? tongue.gif

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post Aug 20 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(sblsbl @ Aug 20 2013, 04:44 PM)
thank you so much! i dont have other hDD or desktop to do the testing,so i will try the SMART thing, haha, not really understand, but will google.

if it's working, do you know the "market price" for these types ofused hard disk?  tongue.gif
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I don't think there'll be any "market price" for this hard disk unless some desperate enough to buy the PATA type of which is just darn rare now even you do found one, it's 1GB per RM, doh.gif crazy expensive.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 20 2013, 05:27 PM)
I don't think there'll be any "market price" for this hard disk unless some desperate enough to buy the PATA type of which is just darn rare now even you do found one, it's 1GB per RM,  doh.gif crazy expensive.
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hahaha, another hardware belonging to the musem blush.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 20 2013, 04:38 PM)
You can use HDDScans to get the SMART after you connect successfully to your Windows PC, then try to verify the issue from there, if you can't get the SMART through the USB controller then you need to plug into a desktop system and get it from there.
If your HDD does not support SMART then you can try to verify by plug-in other HDD of the same size into the external casing and see if the same issue arise.
Also test your current HDD by plug-in to a normal desktop system and test it to see if it has trouble starting up, normally you can hear the sound better by locate the HDD outside of the casing, you should be able to hear the motor and head seeking noise.

Good luck. wink.gif

p/s: Hope you can understand my language, I'm pretty straight forward here, assuming you know some of the technical get around. blush.gif
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oh, i tried HDDScan, but the SMART button is disabled, so i guess the HDD does not support SMART. tough luck. blush.gif
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QUOTE(sblsbl @ Aug 20 2013, 06:23 PM)
oh, i tried HDDScan, but the SMART button is disabled, so i guess the HDD does not support SMART. tough luck.  blush.gif
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try not to use as usb storage to access the SMART features for ur hdd
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 16 2013, 11:21 PM)
Wanted to buy a new external harddisk, but why got so many different variants with the same capacity but different price from 1 manufacturer? (BTW, I want to buy from IPMart is it reliable?)

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/WD,M...php?prod=378478

and

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/West...php?prod=351129

Why got RM10 difference? The expensive one better?

or should I go back to Seagate?

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Seag...php?prod=351904

Because currently I have been using my Seagate FreeAgent GO 320GB for more than 4 years and it is still running well, just that its storage is full already, no way I am going to delete files in them
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i also have a unit of seagate 320gb still working very great, but cannot compare with nowadays low QC seagate ext hdd, more than 50% of my company usb seagate aldy sent warranty before. doh.gif
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post Aug 27 2013, 05:35 PM

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anyone has the experience of using seagate enterprise SATA hard disk or hitachi enterprise SATA hard disk? please feedback
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post Aug 30 2013, 04:12 PM

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wta, which 3TB is recommend between Seagate and WD green? (as per viewnet pricelist different is rm10)

so far 4/5 my current WD HDD, only one sent to RMA b4 due to SMART error.
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 30 2013, 04:12 PM)
wta, which 3TB is recommend between Seagate and WD green? (as per viewnet pricelist different is rm10)

so far 4/5 my current WD HDD, only one sent to RMA b4 due to SMART error.
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Either one should be fine I guess, base on luck though, my WD Green 1TB broke down (too much bad sectors) after the warranty expired.
But I guess Seagate RMA procedure is much simple, never done WD RMA before.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 30 2013, 04:27 PM)
Either one should be fine I guess, base on luck though, my WD Green 1TB broke down (too much bad sectors) after the warranty expired.
But I guess Seagate RMA procedure is much simple, never done WD RMA before.
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I see. thxs for d input since nth much different between 2. my WD is being RMA by the shop previously and gotten a 750gb back instead of the 500gb.
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post Sep 1 2013, 09:06 AM

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what is current 2TB seagate 7200 hdd?
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post Sep 1 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 30 2013, 04:54 PM)
I see. thxs for d input since nth much different between 2. my WD is being RMA by the shop previously and gotten a 750gb back instead of the 500gb.
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RMA wise both service are equally good, just that seagate always return refurbished set (100%, no exception one), and wd got 50-50 chance in getting repaired vs retail new set, and sometimes with newer model + bigger capacity laugh.gif

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post Sep 2 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 1 2013, 10:58 PM)
RMA wise both service are equally good, just that seagate always return refurbished set (100%, no exception one), and wd got 50-50 chance in getting repaired vs retail new set, and sometimes with newer model + bigger capacity laugh.gif
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Oh... really? Last my Samsung RMA drive is quite new or am I not sensitive enough to notice it?
The returned drive seems new to me, no scratches at all, board were clean, no sign of being repaired (or like I said above?) sweat.gif doh.gif

But that darn drive (WDC) died on me when it just expired... cry.gif

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 2 2013, 09:51 AM)
Oh... really? Last my Samsung RMA drive is quite new or am I not sensitive enough to notice it?
The returned drive seems new to me, no scratches at all, board were clean, no sign of being repaired (or like I said above?) sweat.gif  doh.gif

But that darn drive (WDC) died on me when it just expired...  cry.gif
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yup, the returned samsung is indeed smells like new set but with "recertified" wording on it, even check with hdd sentinel also showing 0hr Power ON time and 2x Start/Stop count, just that i dun know the platter inside is repaired or really brand new, i just hate the "re-certified" wording laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 2 2013, 10:13 PM)
yup, the returned samsung is indeed smells like new set but with "recertified" wording on it, even check with hdd sentinel also showing 0hr Power ON time and 2x Start/Stop count, just that i dun know the platter inside is repaired or really brand new, i just hate the "re-certified" wording laugh.gif
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Ah that "Seagate Certified Repair" sticker or sort of, need to take my PC off sometimes this week to have a look if it really has that sticker (didn't notice doh.gif ), my previous portable 320GB Seagate does has that "Seagate Certified Repair".
I already have 2 out of 3 of my 2TB Samsung sent for RMA (1 in 2011, 1 in 2012), HD204UI some more... HD203WI still running, hopefully no problem. sweat.gif

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