With your preferred brand within the price point, I can only think of Sony a6400 or Canon Eos M6 mark ii. If you want user friendly, sony is never know to be use rfriendly with their menu. So, just go for the Canon EOS M6 mark 2

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 26 2020, 03:32 PM

for budget less than 2K, just get the a5100 because u want the flip up screen/side screen. If you can stretch your budget a bit, go for the Canon M50. Forget about panasonic. If you going to get gimal, then lens stabilisation doesn't really matter.



Canon EOS M50

Canon eos M50

Can consider fuji X-S10

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This post has been edited by Loseeker: Apr 27 2022, 11:06 AM

Does it has to be DSLR? It's dying breed. I would recommend you to go for Nikon Z-Fc and get adapter for your old nikon lenses. If you insist on D7100, yes, it's a good camera despite it's age. But I don't think you can get brand new. Only used copy on the market now.


For your budget, I would recommend you to get a better smart phone with better camera. Camera within that price range would take photos no better than your smartphone. Unless you are willing to go to the route of used DSLR with used lens. Be warn that DSLR is a dying breed.

For that budget, you won't find anything that is much better than what your smartphone can already do, so why waste the money and carry additional gear. As such, I will recommend you to contribute your RM800 to your next upgrade of your smart phone.

I think it looks like Sony RX100 series camera.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Apr 27 2022, 11:05 AM

I totally agreed with what N33d said in his replies. Get the Fuji X-S10. Sony is not very sincere with their apsc offering.

You have to understand that, for your picture quality to improve, the most important thing is that you need to have good lighting, second, you need to have better lens/lenses and then, a camera with a bigger sensor.

If you only have budget for a DSLR, I can assure you that, you will be 100% disappointed, IF you don't have good lighting (flash) and better lenses to go with it. Because the photo qualities will turn out no better than your iphone, or could be worse because your iphone might has features that enhance your photo quality automatically.

You can definitely go cheap with the camera body, an 10-15 years old dslr body still can provide you superb photos. After all, the camera body is just a image recorder, where as the lens is the one that form the image. You can watch this video to understand why I emphasized on better lens to go with your camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk5IMmEDWH4

If you cannot stretch your budget, I think you are better off investing the money into your next phone upgrade. My honest 2 cents opinions.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Jun 25 2022, 07:50 AM

yes, the sony camera generally has better AFC , but XS-10 no slouch also. Useable in most situation, depending on which lens you're pairing it with. Do you usually take photo/video in the rain? I guess the XS10 should be able to withstand a bit of light shower of rain. As for the battery life, if that is important to you, either you get the XT4 or go for the Sony a6600 then.

The XS-10 can definitely save you time on post processing and editing since most photos or videos came out good sooc using eterna or the classic neg film simulation.

Of course ! Just remember, the body is just an image recorder, the lens is the one that makes the image. So, if you want to see your image upgraded from your smart phone, you need to pair it with a right lens. If not, you will be greatly disappointed. But then again, decent lens doesn't necessary mean it will cost you an arm or leg. For the types of photography you want, Architectural photography, landscape & night photography they all happens to fall under the similar focal length. The best lens that came to my mind is the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 version 1. They cost around RM600++ used on carousell.

Canon version - https://www.carousell.com.my/p/tokina-11-16...e&t-tap_index=6

Nikon version - https://www.carousell.com.my/p/tokina-nikon...e&t-tap_index=9


As for portrait, the Tokina 11-16 is not a suitable lens, you can just add a yongnuo 35mm f2 or yongnuo 50mm f1.8 (again available in both nikon and canon mount) later when your budget permits.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Jun 29 2022, 12:07 AM

Canon eos M50 II


May be Redmi Note 11 pro ? or Iphone ? May be older model ?

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 3 2022, 11:58 PM

Of course cannot ! Iphone RM3K comes with 3 lenses. RM3K camera without lenses is useless. Some more u said your budget less than RM2.5k. If you going to get a camera body + a kit lens (because that is what that budget can get you), then u better get a better iphone.

A lot of beginner asking here for suggestion for a new camera and stating their camera budget, but they never factor in the price of lenses. When they realized that a lens can easily cost more than the camera itself, they either fall back or just get the kit lens, expecting that they will still see different from their iphones. But sadly, most of them quickly realized that, without better lenses, the camera + kit lens is only marginally better than the iphone. Yet the iphone is so easily to bring around, always available and they have all the pre installed filters and smart apps that helps you to do selfie and portrait editing. So in the end, you will realized that your camera has been sitting a home collecting dust, worse yet, growing fungus. By the time all your interests in photography died down, then u will see the camera as an eyesore which you wish you never get it at the first place.

So yeah, invest your money toward a better iphone.

If you still insist of getting a dedicated camera to take nice photo of your gf that will definitely up your game from any smartphone, this is my suggestion: Canon Eos M50 (mark 1) + Sigma 56 f1.4 dc dn. If you're lucky to find used one with good condition, you may get the combo under RM4k.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 5 2022, 09:32 PM

XT20 is still a very capable camera. It was my first fuji camera when I've jumped from Sony apsc to fuji. I've sold it in favour of the pro body of the XT2, which house the exact same sensor. You should be able to get a used XT20 around RM1500 and use the other RM1000 to get yourself either 1) a viltrox 23mm f1.4, which is one of the best focal length for street photography. 2) Sigma 16mm f1.4 for vlogging, you will have to fork out a bit more, because it cost around RM1600 or 3) Get the fuji 18-55 f2.8-4 kit lens, which can do all the tasks you've stated above. Should be able to get for under RM1K if you are lucky enough.

Coming to think of it, I think a Fuji XT20 + Viltrox 56mm f1.4 should be able to tightly fit into your budget of RM2.5K.

Point and shoot never meant for sweet sweet bokeh. If you really want that, invest in a interchangeable lens system be it dslr or mirrorless.

My recommendation is a used Sony a6000 with kit lens + Sigma 56mm or Canon m50 with kit lens + Sigma 56mm. Find used for all the items I've mentioned, should able to fit your budget of RM2.5K

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 24 2022, 08:30 AM

For your budget, body + lens less than RM2500 you can try the following:

For body
1) Fuji XT1/XT20 (used), or Canon Eos M50 mark 1(used), Sony a6000(used)

For the 35mm lens
1) Sigma 30 mm f1.4, 2) viltrox 33mm f1.4





This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 14 2022, 02:00 AM

Brand new or used? 3K body only or with lens ?

For 3k budget, I suggest you get the M50 + viltrox 23mm f1.4 or sony a6000 + viltrox 23mm used.

Those lens that comes with the camera are called kit lens, they are not that much better than your smartphone lenses. What is it that your smartphone camera cannot do for you that you need to get a dslr camera? If you going to get a kit lens, then you better off saving your money and used that to contribute to your next smartphone upgrade, because kit lens usually are not that much better than your smart phone lenses.

Keep the kit lens. Depends on our budgets, you can look at 1) Sony 35mm f1.8, 2) Sigma 30mm F1.4 DC DN or 3) Viltrox 33mm f1.4. Personally, I would get the Sigma 30mm f1.4 for the bigger maximum aperture.

Congratz, It is a very good lens if you know how to use it.

Sony a6400 is good. To be honest, it is hard to buy a bad camera these days. When u say 35mm, do you mean apsc 35mm or Full frame 35mm equivalent? If you going to go with 1 lens 1 body, a 23mm, be it sigma or viltrox, would be a better choice. 35mm on apsc (about 50mm Full frame equivalent would be a bit too tight for travel photos). To be honest, for travelling, I would advise a Zoom lens such as the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 instead of a prime.


Since you mention that you're a complete beginner, I would advice you to start small (apsc camera) first even if you can afford full frame. My suggestion would be a Apsc camera + a Fixed variable zoom such as Sigma 18-50 f2.8 + 2 prime lenses such as 35mm and 56mm lens. Since you say you want camera that can take great photos out of the box, then Fujifilm camera will fit the bill nicely. My reasons for telling you to start small is that Full frame camera can be quite overwhelming for you (even if you can afford it). Why deny yourself the joy of the process of learning and upgrading only after you have outgrown your equipments? If you jump right to Full frame from the start, then you have nothing to upgrade to.

Another thing with Full frame camera is that, with such a high price you have paid for it, you will naturally expect a HUGE upgrade in term of image quality compare to your Iphone. But the truth is, if you don't know any editing skills such as Frequency separation, Dodge and Burn and Color grading, your iphone may produce more pleasing photos than your digital camera (be it R6 or Fuji). So, my advice to you similar to trialgone. It is more important to learn proper lighting technique and photo editing skills than getting an expensive camera. If not, you may find yourself letting the camera sit at home collecting dust because it is much easier to take nice photos with your iphone and the digital camera is big and bulky and you need extra efforts to take it out with you while the iphone was always with you wherever you go.

As regards, to future proofing, I can tell you that any recent released camera you buy, can easily last you good for the next 10 years or more. As long as you understand lighting, editing and your camera limitation, you can still take professional photo with a camera that is released more than 10 years ago.

Having said all those above, if you still think you want to get the R6, by all means. Canon camera are well known for producing nice skin tones right out of the box. Just make sure you got some good prime lenses for your portrait such as the Canon RF 50mm f1.8 and the RF 85mm F2. If not, you will surely be disappointed with the kits lens.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Apr 6 2023, 12:19 PM