Do you need the autofocus in the a6300 for your video shoot? Other than that, what is that your 6d cannot gives you that a A6300 can ? Are you already heavily invested in canon lenses?

Does it have to be a DSLR? Would you consider mirrorless? I was once a big fan of DSLR, nikon specific....till my friend lended me his Nikon D7000. Really no fun lugging around a big camera in my bag while I was travelling. So, in the end I went to mirrorless. If price is your concern, there is mirrorless that is < RM2000.

Having said that, Nikon D3300 is a fine camera. I think it is quite impossible to get a "Bad Camera" within the offering of Nikon or Canon.

Disclaimer: I'm no sifu. Just a amateur.

Then you've answered your own question. I'd say go for it since you know what you want.
By the way, get a Sigma MC-11 adapter as well if you've already invested heavily in canon glasses. That way, u can use your canon glasses on the a6300 if you ever acquire it.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 3 2016, 11:52 PM

Disclaimer: I'm not sifu, just amateur who like to share his opinion.

Take fuji, if you...
1) Don't mind without the touchscreen (may be a deal breaker for some)
2) Prefer a bigger sensor (APSC vs M4/3)
3) Don't mind the lousy video quality
4) Do a lot of low light shooting.

If you do take fuji, I suggest you top up a little more to get it with the 18-55 f2.8-4 kit lens instead of the 16-50, the 18-55 is the best kit lens any company has to offer.

Take EM10, if you..
1) Don't mind the smaller sensor (M4/3 vs APSC)
2) Think you might want to do some video occasionally, Olympus has better video quality than the fuji.
3) Really want the touchscreen.

It is slightly cheaper than the fuji.

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Having said the above, I'd recommend you to get the OMD EM10 Mk II. It's more well-rounded for beginner from my honest opinion simply because it has the touchscreen (which many has been used to that features from their smartphones).

Yes yes, sony a6000 is good. But I simply recommend him according to the 2 options he already had in his mind, which is the fuji Xt10 and the olympus em10 mark II. I was also thinking to mention about the A6k which is an APSC and good in video quality camera, but it lack touchscreen. I think for a beginner, they might very much missed that features coming from their smartphones, that's why I recommended the em10.

As for myself, given the choice, I would want to avoid MFT sensor as much as possible. I ever used a olympus FT camera, the small sensor really very noisy without good lighting...

p/s: By the way, the set up you recommended above is very good. But it's geared toward advance amateur or pro IMO. For beginners to buy a camera outside their smartphone, I'm pretty sure they expect zoom because they usually failed to appreciate what primes can achieve for them.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 11 2016, 01:05 PM

Sony A5100. Best for your need under RM2K.

http://shashinki.com/shop/sony-alpha-a5100...ia-p-21483.html

Why does it has to be a6300? How about a6000 + Samyang 12mm F2.0 combo? For your budget, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to find another better bang for your buck deal especially when it comes to landscape photography. And it is also good for cityscape, astrophotography (reference below).



This post has been edited by Loseeker: Oct 22 2017, 11:25 PM

@scufflebean I agreed with kingkingyyk. Canon or nikon entry level cannot compete with Sony a6000. It's an semi pro camera with entry level price if you ask me.

Not to rain on your parade, but for your budget, I don't think you can get anything to do 4K video especially with a proper mirrorless/dslr type of camera. The cheapest 4K camera I can think of on top of my head right now is Sony a6300, which is around RM3.5k body only. If you can drop 4K video as your requirement, the best camera that fit your budget would be Sony a6000. Anything less, you will have to go for action cameras. Hope this help.

When you said bokeh lens, I pressume it's going to be use for portrait purposes? And I need to know how much working distance you will be have. If you're going to shoot mostly indoor, do consider Sony E 35mm f1.8/Sigma 30mm f1.4. If you have more working distance (outdoor) then Sony E 50mm f1.8, it is small, sharp and stabilized. For around RM1000, the 50mm value is hard to beat. If you want even more bokeh and have the distance to spare, the Sony FE 85mm f1.8 will fit the bill nicely. Incase you're looking at zoom for versatility, do look at Sony e PZ 18105g f4. At 105mm f4, you still get nice separation of your subject and the background, again if you have the working distance for it. However, be aware of the significantly huge size of it. If you somehow do prefer a smaller size zoom lens with a longer reach than the kit lens, you have the option of the Sony Zeiss 16-70f4, if you can afford the premium.

IF the type of photography you're into are only casual and some low light. I suggest u invest into getting a better smartphone. No point for you to spend the money and let it sits at home collecting dust only after a few occasion, right?

If that's the case, I'd suggest you to top up a bit more to your budget. Since you can afford a note 8, I think you should be fine with that right? If you're set on getting a proper camera outside of your note 8, then why settle for a bridge camera? Ever heard of the saying " Go big or go home?"
Perhaps you should look at getting a dslr or even mirrorless if you want something that can zoom and gives you better image quality than your note 8. If you want to get a bridge camera with super zoom, then perhaps you can crop your note 8 photos to achieve similar results....just saying...

With your budget, I was about to suggest you to get a Sony a6000. However, your requirements are that it doesn't overheat and durable...... then Sony a6000 may not be suitable for u. But then, for your budget, I can only suggest you to get a used Canon 70d. AF is superb for video and it doesn't overheat. If your budget can stretch a bit, get a brand new canon 77d or even a used canon 80d if you can find one. Since video is your thing, you will be very happy with any of them (Sony a6000 included, but might overheat on you) as long as you stay away from Nikon.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 21 2017, 12:48 AM

Yes, unfortunately, even though I never had an overheating issue on my Sony a6000, I still cannot whole heatedly recommend it because I'm mostly shooting still photograph. I do like 5% of videos only, and mostly are less than 30sec short clips, so never had the problem but doesnt mean it wont overheat.

If you want something small and light to carry with you always, you can look at Canon eos 200D. I just tried it at the Mall (half an hour ago). Boy, I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with it's AF capability compared to it's bigger and more expensive sibling like the 77d or the 80d. While it is not as fast as 77d, it is only very very slightly slower. However, I cannot say the same for Canon Eos M6, which I also tried. I think you should definitely look into EOS 200d. Hope this help.

p/s: Nikon Live view autofocus still pretty bad compared to it's competitors. Simply put, it's autofocus in video mode is very slow and hunt always.

I suggest Sony a6300 and Sigma mc11 adapter. If u can stretch your budget, get the sony a6500.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 23 2017, 02:34 PM

Well, sensor size play an important factor in choosing a camera, that's why I'd never want to go to the route of micro four third if price permits me to go apsc. And Sony a6000 sit nicely at that price range and offer the apsc sensor. So, while you're sick of recommending the same model (which I think your recommendation is right anyway), it really goes to show just how good Sony a6000 is at it's price point. It is still best bang of buck camera of 2017.

If you ever switch, pls be aware that the RM2K is just the starting point with the body and the kit lens perhaps. There are 2 sony standard zoom that is close in FL, but not equivalent to your Sigma 17-50 offering. First being the Sony 18-105f4, it is less wide but longer than your 17-150 and came with powerzoom which drive a lot of people nuts as oppose to the manual zoom. And 2nd, the overprice Sony Zeiss 16-70F4, which is 1mm wider and 20mm than your 17-50. Not only that it's bloody expensive, it's plague with infamous decentering problem. As you can see, both only max at F4. Like u, coming from 17-50 f2.8 (tamron), I really missed the f2.8 sometime. F4 is really limiting indoor, unless you always carry a flash with you. Alternatively, you can shoot with prime, which I'm doing more to compensate the lost of f2.8 on zoom. Also, the 2 standad zoom I've mentioned above are both more expensive than your sigma 17-50mm.

As regard adapter, they are usually slow and not so reliable with AF. Having said that, I think Canon to E mount adapters such as Sigma mc-11 and metabones offerings has matured quite a bit, however, I can't say the same for nikon to emount adapter. Unless you're prepared to manual focus your lens, be prepared to pay a hefty premium for those with AF. Adapter only make sense if you already own tons of nikon lens to begin with. If you only have the Sigma 17-50f2.8 in nikon mount, I'd recommend you sell it and go native. Save yourself the headache.


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This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 27 2017, 02:44 PM

Strictly between the 2 brands, go for Fuji. If you can afford their high premium prices, they are offering top quality lenses which attracted a lot of people into their system at the first place. While I also agreed that M5 and M6 in canon camp are quite capable, their lens offering is....... . (Just as TrialGone said...)
The way I see it is that M5 and M6 are simple canon's solution to prevent canon users from switching to Sony or other mirrorless system that can adapted their canon lenses. So, in other words, Canon expects you to adapter their big Canon DSLR lenses to your M5 and M6 to be used as a second body your canon dslr. Which also mean, they are not very keen to add new lenses to their mirrorless system.
As such, if you absolutely must have canon (because of their flip out screen) , and able to live with their lens offering or you have a tons of canon dslr lenses to be adapted, then, M5 or M6 would make sense....but still, to me, it would defeat the purpose of having a mirrorless...

If I were you, I'd look deeply into the Fuji system. Just 2 things you need to be aware. 1) Their lenses price are quite steep, with not many third party supports. 2) Their body grips are so small....drive me mad using a fuji. But then you can buy add-on grip. Having said that, fuji lenses and their SOOC jpg quality simply doesn't disappoint.


m4/3 cameras are quite good....but I'm still haunted deeply with the poor low light high iso performance of tiny m4/3 sensor. I don't mind playing around with one, but would never invest into a m4/3 again. Kudos to Sony for offering the Sony a6000. The M5 did turns my head when it first released.....but as you said the canon mirrorless lenses......


I totally agreed with you about give and take. Seriously, with my limited knowledge, I don't think there is any APSC mirrorless system that is offering exactly the same to the Sigma 17-50 f2.8, natively. The closest I can think of is fuji kit lens which goes from 18-55, but f2.8-f4. While you said that you don't like changing lenses, I would still want to recommend you to look into the Sony apsc system. My suggestion is that you buy the Sony a6000 + Kit 16-50 for day time usage (or when light is plentiful). Once it goes dark, you can switch out the Sony E 35mm f1.8. (These 2 lenses system might still be more compact than your nikon d5100 + Sigma 17-50.) If you don't have a prime how will you become a prime....u know, like Optimus prime....
well, joke aside, the 2 lenses I recommended makes a very compact system. If you give yourself and prime lens enough chances, you will love it. Prime lens are so much sharper compared to zoom lens. You owe it to yourself to at least try to shoot with a prime. Besides, tt will makes you a better photographer.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 27 2017, 08:27 PM

Sony a6000/a6300/6500.

It really depend on how serious you are. Nikon D5200 for 1K is a good deal per se (even with the broken built-in-flash). But that is just camera body alone, right? You will find that, for you to take really good shots, the price will add up quickly. Because good lenses are far more important than a good body. And good lighting is also a must, unless you always shoot outdoor, you'll need to get a flash for indoor settings. So, you better have budget of around RM3k to get a decent set up.
I'm not trying to be judgmental, but from the sound of it, I think you're not someone who is really THAT serious and commit to photography. You simply want something that can zoom and take same/better quality photo than your note 8, right? If that was the case, I would recommend you to take a hard look at Nikon P900. It has 83X super zoom, allow you to shoot people, animals (in nature or in zoo) that is far far away. And it cost around RM2k. Even if you only use it once in awhile during your vacation, you won't lose much in your investment. Just my 1 cent.


Quick overview:
canon m10: APSC sensor, canon lenses offering are the least.
Sony a5100: APSC sensor (bigger than canon), decent amount of lenses selection.
lumix gf9: m4/3 sensor (smallest among the 3 brand) , has most selections among the 3 brands, inclusive of olympus lenses.

Quick suggestion: If you can find the lenses you need in Sony's offering, go Sony. Else, go lumix gf9. Please be aware that gf9 will have less bokeh due to smaller sensor. Canon? Just forget about it.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Nov 29 2017, 01:10 PM

Canon 1300D/sony RX100II/canon SX60/Nikon P7800/Nikon D3400

Get a 2nd hand D7000 instead. You should be able to find one on kldslr.com within your budget. All the best.

Leica D lux

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Jan 5 2018, 07:11 PM

Why u wanna sell it? For Rm2k to 3K, nothing beats a6000 at the moment in apsc world, interm of IQ, burst mode and compactness.(I'd like to be proven wrong though)

If you expect something like A6000 but not wanting another a6000, then go for A6300/Fuji XT-20. If you don't mind tiny Micro 4/3 sensor, then there are more options in the realm of olympus (PEN EPL8, ) and panasonic (GF8) for your budget range.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Feb 1 2018, 12:34 AM