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post Jan 31 2024, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Azran1979 @ Jan 31 2024, 07:45 PM)
guys i saw some shops selling 1DX Mk 2 at around 6-7k.

i think just few years ago they still priced around 25k.

so much price drop. is it worthy to buy now?
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Mirrorless camera such as R6 or R6II used are similar pricing with much better specs. I would suggest you to look at mirrorless options instead. If you really want the big size of the 1DX mark 2 for whatever reason, then sure, go ahead.
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post Feb 4 2024, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(myomega @ Feb 4 2024, 05:01 PM)
What you guy to think about a6700 with kit lens 16-50mm, XS20 kit lens 15-45mm or XS10 with Sigma 18-50mm?
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Out of the 3 combos, the last one is the best. Just remember that, better lenses are more important than better bodies. Sony kit lens the 16-50 quality is really... doh.gif . I haven't owned the Fuji kit 15-45, but anything with a variable aperture is a big NO NO for me. At least the Sigma 18-50 is a fix aperture zoom with F2.8 aperture. But still, if you shoot a lot of indoor without flash, you will soon realize that even F2.8 is really not enough most of the time.

Once you get better at photography, you will soon realize that why people shoot prime, most of the time due to the big apetures they offers such as F2 or F1.4. But even when you progress to that level, the Sigma 18-50 will still be a worthy lens to keep among the primes.

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post Feb 28 2024, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Diablo89 @ Feb 26 2024, 08:20 PM)
hi. wanna upgrade from Sony ZV-e10 . i am lookinig at sony a6700 or the older Sony a7c. which is better? and any suggestion for other canon model about this price range? Mainly used for photos and sometimes only videos. thanks
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What kind of photos ?
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post Mar 1 2024, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Diablo89 @ Feb 29 2024, 10:09 PM)
any photos... traveling, night time photos. decorations during festivals
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For low light photos, I would recommend you to get something with bigger sensor. For the price range of A6700, I would recommend you to get the A7C, then pair it with Sigma 28-70 f2.8. If your budget allow, get some prime lens such as the Sigma 35mm f1.4.

But you need to remember that, full frame lenses are usually more expensive than apsc counterpart. Need to factor that in if you going to go for the A7C route.

For canon model around that price range, the only option I can think of is the R8. But canon doesn't allow 3rd parties lenses. Unless you don't mind the added weight of the adapter and weight of old dslr lenses, I would advice against getting into canon eco system.

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post Mar 1 2024, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(iridesxon @ Feb 23 2024, 11:44 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories :  Mirrorless Camera
Budget: below 3k
Your Location:   KL
Preferable brand :  Canon
Type of photography u want to do :  Product Photography and take photos of my loved one
Any specific models in mind? :  Looking at ZV-E10
Any specific features u want? : can straight transfer to phone, can take nostalgic photos

Good day all sifu, I am seeking for recommendation what camera should I get with the budget I have. Hope you guys able to help me out.
Thank you!
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You have ZV-E10 (which is a sony) in mind, yet your preferable brand is canon shocking.gif ? Just get the ZV-E10. Don't get into canon mirrorless camera unless you are ready to adapt old dslr lenses. There are only 2 lenses for canon RF apsc mirrorless camera at the moment....

Please expand your budget to included lenses. Camera is no good without decent lenses.

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post Mar 5 2024, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(iridesxon @ Mar 5 2024, 12:33 PM)
Hi bro, thank you for your advice. I am a newbie when it comes to cameras. I have been using 7D Canon for my product shooting all this while and looking for something smaller & lighter to bring it around. I thought the lenses that I have now might compatible with ZV-E10 so yeah, that's why seeing Canon cameras.
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You have been using canon lenses right ? Canon lenses can be used on ZV-E10 only if you have the Sigma mc-11 adapters. But first thing first, tell me what lenses you're having then I can better suggest you the camera body. If my guess is true (that all your current lenses are Canon apsc lenses) I would suggest you get Canon R50 instead of Sony ZVE10. Is there any specific reasons that you HAVE to get the Sony ZVE10 ?
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post Mar 13 2024, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(iridesxon @ Mar 13 2024, 11:50 AM)
small and portable. haha easier to carry in and out. btw how can I check what's the lenses model?
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You seriously telling me you don't know how to check your lens model ? doh.gif The lens model basically just the focal length they offer, example: 18-55mm, that would be the model of the lens. Anyway, the best suggestion I can give you is to go to one of the camera shops in Berjaya Time Square (see which one offers you the highest trade in value), to trade in all your canon gears and get the Sony ZVE-10 and emount lens. The people at the shops will tell you which lenses are suitable for your ZVE10. Forget about adapting them if you want to reduce the size of the overall package.


If you still insist of adapting your old canon dslr lenses, I would suggest you get the Canon R50 + EF to RF adapter over the Sony ZVE10 + Sigma MC-11 adapter option. But either way is fine.

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post Mar 13 2024, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(kkranger @ Mar 9 2024, 07:54 PM)
Hi sifu, hope u can help me. Looking for a camera for my daughter. She likes photography and picture editing. Bought her fuji instax and she has been hooked with it. Any idea whats the next upgrade which can benefit her? She’s 17. My budget around 1 k for now. Thanks ya
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1k is a very tight budget. Yes, you can get something for the price, but the camera will be old, big and heavy. You sure your daughter will use it ?

The smartphone basically killed off the consumer/beginner level camera due to their ease of use and ever present. I think you better of use that money to top up the next smartphone for your daughter. That money will be better spent as oppose to you getting her a old, heavy dslr that is super unfriendly to smartphone user and that are not necessarily taking better than the smartphone.

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/canon-eos-7d...r&t-tap_index=0

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post Apr 4 2024, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(dman @ Apr 2 2024, 02:27 PM)
Type of camera/lens/accesories : Mirrorless Camera
Budget : RM9k - 11k max include kitlens
Your Location : KL
Preferable brand : Fujifilm
Type of photography u want to do : Street Photography or Portrait
Any specific models in mind? : α6700/ X-S20 /X-T5 / X-H2
Any specific features u want? : Easy to transfer files to computer and user friendly

I wanted to try photography since forever but now decided to splurge some budget into it. Probably got midlife crisis...lol

Consider newbie but previously did learned and tried photography during uni days but that one is long time ago.

Hope some sifu can slap me with reality or give me some advice based on the above.

TQ.
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Those sony and fuji's bodies you have in mind are all great model. You won't go wrong any of them. If autofocus is a top priority for you, go for the a6700. If you want pleasing jpeg files straight out of camera, get the fujis.

For someone who just started on the photography journey, I would suggest you start with something more modest than those you have listed on top. 9K to 11K is definitely more than enough for your need, but I would still advise you to start small. Instead of XS-20, I would suggest you to get XS-10, or XT4 over XT5.

Fuji kit lens are fantastic especially the 18-55 f2.8 to 4. On top of that, I would suggest you to get the 56mm as well for dedicated portrait photoshoot
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post Apr 13 2024, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Apr 12 2024, 11:59 PM)
Hi all, I am a very very beginner and bad at photography and this will be my first camera purchase as I would like to learn more on photography.

Type of camera/lens/accesories :  DSLR (coz of budget)
Budget: below 1k, second hand only
Your Location:  Klang Valley
Preferable brand :  Nikon? I did a blind test youtube video and was picking Nikon as top preference (for colour?)
Type of photography u want to do :  First thing is mind is for travel. Hence street photography ? Some objects like food /animals /landmarks? Landscape as well.
Any specific models in mind? :  Aiming at used Nikon D3500 but seems over budget, going down to used Nikon D3300
Any specific features u want? : Since its for travel, I do hope the camera is light and easier to carry around. But I know it comes at a cost.

Thank you.
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For your budget, it would be quite hard to get a decent camera that is better than your smart phone. Why don't you use that money to buy a even better smartphone ? Photography 101, dslr body cannot shoot without lens. The budget even if it is enough for the D3300, but you can't shoot without lens.
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QUOTE(Jojolin @ Apr 13 2024, 07:12 PM)
I would like to offer a different opinion.

The whole point of picking up photography is to learn all the functions that a DSLR can offer such as aperture (to control depth of field), speed (to capture fast motion, blur motion or low light), ISO, rule of third etc. And for landscape photography, one can start to learn about filters, ND grads etc for taking sunsets or waterfalls.

Let's be honest, who would play with all the abovementioned features with a smartphone? You just whip out your phone and take a snap. And the result will usually be a "snapshot" at best.

Also for the photography enthusiast moving on to bigger goals, such as having their prints enlarged up to A3 or larger sizes for display or exhibition, they will start to realise the limitations of smartphone images. A smartphone image is usually heavily enhanced by the camera's AI unless you shoot RAW -- and who would shoot RAW with a smartphone?. When this heavily enhanced image is printed at large sizes, one can see the "artifacts" such as pixelation, extreme sharpening etc. A DSLR simply offers a wider dynamic range because of the size of the sensor and lens.

For TS, I would suggest to pick up a good secondhand DSLR or at least a MFT with some good lenses. One cannot go wrong with a Canon, Nikon or Panasonic-Lumix.
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I totally agreed with what you said. But with TS budget, it would be hard to recommend anything else apart from upgrading the smartphone. I don't want to be biased but usually, the budget people who are willing to invest in a dedicated camera reflect a very good amount of passion they have for a dedicated camera. I'm just trying to save the the cycle of Getting a camera -> try for a few times -> leave it at home because smart phone are more convinient -> sell the dedicated camera because it's collect dust process. I guess you know what I mean.

And also, by suggesting people to upgrade their smartphone instead of getting a dedicated camera is a way to "test" how serious they really are about getting into the craft. For those who are serious enough, they usually come back for more help and questions. So, it's sort of a 'filtering' question to see who are serious and who are not.

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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Apr 13 2024, 07:57 PM)
But the budget is for camera body + kit lens. Isn't that enough for starter?
Then maybe I should reconsider getting camera by just learning using the smartphone camera first.
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@Jojoin I think that made my point
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post Apr 14 2024, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Apr 13 2024, 07:57 PM)
But the budget is for camera body + kit lens. Isn't that enough for starter?
Then maybe I should reconsider getting camera by just learning using the smartphone camera first.
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For below 1k, the camera might not be better than your current smartphone. If you want the experience of using a dslr, then it's a different story. But then again, those low tier body doesn't really offer much as regards to control as what @jojolin mentioned. You have to know how to dig thru the menu to find the setting. I would seriously suggest you learn the composition rules which will make more meaniful improvement to your photography instead of getting a dedicated camera. Just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 15 2024, 12:17 PM)
Looking to get a brand new mirrorless camera and eyeing on Sony A6700 with Tamron 17-70mm. Any other suggestion? Was comparing with Fujifilm x-s20 but since sony has many vendor for lenses dropped out Fujifilm.

Purpose is mainly taking pic and video during travelling and maybe some internal family functions

Since this going to be my first camera perhaps would like to explore more options. Looking for more comments and suggestions from sifus here
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Get the fuji XS-20 and thank me later. Sony colors..... puke.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 17 2024, 11:07 AM)
The Sony science colours in newer bodies are actually not bad, also their creative profiles are decent.
Definitely not the exact same as Fuji colours but still quite nice after tweaking. And if you shoot raws, there are more advantages with Sony.

If you are mainly PS SOOC then sure just go with Fuji
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I agreed with what you said regarding the newer sony bodies. But for the sake of TS, I would suggest him to go for Fuji. Those who need to ask what camera to buy here, normally doesn't know how to edit RAW files. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 17 2024, 01:23 PM)
Im abit concerned about budget too and now with newly Fujifilm X-T50 confused whether to go for Fujifilm X-S20. Price not much difference though. Yeah sony A6700 I have not decided to go for mainly because of need to edit which I dont like. I prefer to take pic during traveling and straight post it instead of editing it unless necessary. But the price they selling make me feel that A6700 is cheaper but again the hassle like need to edit and stuff, making me think twice.
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You don't need the latest and greatest to take good photos. Just buy what you can comfortably afford. My suggestion to you is to look at Fuji XS-10 if you have budget constraint. To be perfectly honest, XS-20 is not much of an upgrade from XS-10.

Camera these days are so good, it's hard to choose a wrong camera (if you shoot RAW and edit them all the time) . If you want SOOC jpeg, then it's a different story, sony camera colors are bangwall.gif My cousin just shown me a photo of him taken by the Sony A7CII the colors are puke.gif puke.gif If I have his permission, I will share the photo here to proof my point.

Even with XS-10, it already has the very very popular classic negative film simulation, which can be applied to both photos and video. If you want cinematic look to your video, just apply the eterna film simulation and viola. brows.gif

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 19 2024, 05:51 PM)
A question sorry again to change option, just noticed X-T5 has almost similar price range. should I go for it if my budget allows? Or just save my money, get better lens and get XS-20 / XS-10(not sure if can find this though)
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No problems. You can ask more questions if you like. This forum is for people like you to ask questions, so that you can get the gears that are right for you.

Now back to your question. XT5 is a good camera, but then the way it operates is a bit different from XS-10/20. If you're not familiar with the dedicated old school shutter speed, iso dials, it can slow you down and you may need a bit of youtube lesson to get yourself familiar with the film camera like features.

But in order for me to give you appropriate advise, can I ask, why are you considering XT5? Is it because of the look ? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 20 2024, 02:32 PM)
Ops that looks tricky why I was considering XT-5 because the price difference for Body+ Tamron Lens(17mm-70mm) for XS-20 and XT-5 makes not much difference approximately around
1.6k++, thats what made me to think about XT-5.
Let me make this simple for you la. Between XS-10, XS-20 and XT5, I think the best option for you is the XS-20.

1. XS-20 is more beginner friendly and cheaper than XT5. (The reasons to Skip XT5)

2. It has the same bigger battery as the XT5, (the reason to skip XS10)

3. It has a flip out screen, so you can do selfie , (the reason to skip XT5)


QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 20 2024, 02:32 PM)
In addition XT-5 had some pros like better battery, Weather Shield, Double Slot SD cards.
1. Bigger battery, yes. It's a valid reason to choose a body base on this.
2. Weather shield, it is one of the least useful features for hobbist. Let me ask you this, have you ever do photoshoot in the rain? Are you intend to do photoshoot in the rain or
snow?
3. Dual card slots - Are you doing photography as a hobby or job? If you shooting wedding or events that cannot be repeated, then dual card slots is essential. If not, they are
good to have but not necessary just like the weather seal.

QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 20 2024, 02:32 PM)
I was thinking of future proof too but when you said these "If you're not familiar with the dedicated old school shutter speed, iso dials, it can slow you down and you may need a bit of youtube lesson to get yourself familiar with the film camera like features. " makes me worry is these functions easy to learn?
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I tell you this, the concept of future proofing is the most useless doh.gif idea in purchasing camera gears. (I'm quoting this from a fellow lowyat forumer, which I whole heartedly agreed). It may apply (to a certain degree) to buying computer/laptop. You know why?

Because by the time your knowledges and your photography needs have grown, you will realize that you need something entirely different from what fuji can offer. AS such, just buy what you REALLY need right now and forget about future proofing.

And let's be honest, what can guarantee you won't become part of the majority of those buy new camera for fun, use a few time, then leave at home collecting dust because smart phone is so easy and convienient to use and then have to sell the camera at the lost statistic . tongue.gif

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QUOTE(blaze91 @ May 21 2024, 12:09 AM)
Thank you so much for the explanation now im super clear on my needs. I do agree on those points you mentioned above as it's true though. Thanks again for the detailed explanation and clearing my doubts icon_rolleyes.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(darosk @ Dec 11 2024, 12:12 PM)
Hi guys, I stepped out of photography hobby more than 10 years ago.

I have a different sort of question (if I'm posting in the wrong place, pls forgive 🙏🏼)

Back in those days I used to go to places like YL Pudu to test out different new models in my hands. Reason is I place more important on the feeling of the camera and handling with my own hands rather than spec sheet or what reviewer says (because reviewer hands and preferences are not the same as mine 😅).

These days where is a good real shop that I can go and handle/test many different models and brands of camera In KL/Selangor or nearby? I'm not fanboys of any particular brand - but after more than a decade I don't know how the feeling of all the new cameras would be, that's why I need to hold it for myself.

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One of the best place for you to try out is Berjaya Time square. There are plenty of shops that sells camera such as Altech, ecocamera trader, SCCc camera. You can even go to sungai wang, I think there are anothe few that are also quite trust worthy such as kengdim and camworld to try them out.

As for Acce camera.....you might want to be extremely careful if you decide to deal with them.

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