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TS@Adele
post Jan 9 2012, 10:15 PM, updated 14y ago

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Was wondering anybody perform 'yap for' for moving into house? If yes...can share how?
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post Jan 9 2012, 10:30 PM

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You looking at Pray? or refer to those dinner?

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post Jan 9 2012, 11:12 PM

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I just did mine last because my MIL insist we 'move' to the house on 1st Jan for feng shui purpose.

My MIL, colleagues and friends all have all sorts of 'creative' ideas:

Before the moving day.
1. clean the house
2. prepare mix of rice and salt and throw them around the house, especially the corners. Leave them for 24 hours or more before clean them.
3. prepare wood/charcoal, rice, cooking oil, salt, vinegar, sauce & tea. Place them near the sink or in kitchen. Symbolize you have all the neccessaries (sorry, I have problem spelling neccessary).

On the moving day:
1. avoid quarrel and disputes
2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam.
3. On the lights and fans.
4. Boil water
5. Cook something to eat. For me I went for the easiest - tong yun.
6. Invite some family members and friends over and enjoy food. We ordered pizzas.
7. Turn on musics and TV, if any.
8. After that leave at least one light on for 3 days.
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post Jan 10 2012, 12:23 AM

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Lowlowc...i was suggested some of the above also..but no pineapple hha..and no family to help..

My friends ask me to burn the charcoal in the 'Lou' dunno how to say in English. Then carry into the house. Then only can carry the salt etc...

Phoenix..no pray..just move in..
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 10 2012, 12:23 AM)
Lowlowc...i was suggested some of the above also..but no pineapple hha..and no family to help..

My friends ask me to burn the charcoal in the 'Lou' dunno how to say in English. Then carry into the house. Then only can carry the salt etc...

Phoenix..no pray..just move in..
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post Jan 10 2012, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 9 2012, 11:12 PM)
I just did mine last because my MIL insist we 'move' to the house on 1st Jan for feng shui purpose.

My MIL, colleagues and friends all have all sorts of 'creative' ideas:

Before the moving day.
1. clean the house
2. prepare mix of rice and salt and throw them around the house, especially the corners. Leave them for 24 hours or more before clean them.
3. prepare wood/charcoal, rice, cooking oil, salt, vinegar, sauce & tea. Place them near the sink or in kitchen. Symbolize you have all the neccessaries (sorry, I have problem spelling neccessary).

On the moving day:
1. avoid quarrel and disputes
2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam.
3. On the lights and fans.
4. Boil water
5. Cook something to eat. For me I went for the easiest - tong yun.
6. Invite some family members and friends over and enjoy food. We ordered pizzas.
7. Turn on musics and TV, if any.
8. After that leave at least one light on for 3 days.
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congrats bro,

i did mine last friday, basically most of the above mention same but no pineapple biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

i have to hang the red textile myself & burn the charcoal in the 'tan Lou', carry and put in middle of the house for a while, then move to kitchen to boil water & soup for the whole day tongue.gif

the item no 8 different, need to turn on every lights, a/c, fan for 3 days but i only on for the 1st night cause the tnb meter record about 200 unit used doh.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 08:59 AM

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Does all this thing bring any meaning to your house?
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post Jan 10 2012, 09:11 AM

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Skng03, wanted to check with u on the tan Lou. With fan on, will the fire be too big? U mean u use the tan Lou to boil soup aarr...can it? I bought a super mini one only...coz heavy to carry..

And need to bring the tan Lou walk around the house first?

As for the salt, sauce etc...I was told to bring in the same day as move in day, not before. Which would be the correct thing to do...anybody hv any idea?


Added on January 10, 2012, 9:13 amOzak traditions, we all hope that it'll bring peace and 'ji li' and it also proves that ure the owner moving in

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post Jan 10 2012, 09:40 AM

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I understand that all this thing will bring whatever good thing to the house and owner. But I see the list is so long that I wonder each of this thing do bring any meaning or not.

Like

1. avoid quarrel and disputes -> what this mean?
2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam. --> what this mean?

and so on and on.

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post Jan 10 2012, 09:45 AM

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hey guys, i moved in my new house without doing anything mentioned above... what will happen to me?? im a single guy living alone, i bought everything necessities, once done n ready, i just move in lol... only had a simple open house inviting frens n relatives.
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post Jan 10 2012, 10:18 AM

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Let me try to explain,

1. clean the house - self explainary.

2. prepare mix of rice and salt and throw them around the house, especially the corners. Leave them for 24 hours or more before clean them. - chase away the evil occupying the corners.

3. prepare wood/charcoal, rice, cooking oil, salt, vinegar, sauce & tea. Place them near the sink or in kitchen. Symbolize you have all the neccessaries (sorry, I have problem spelling neccessary). - already explained.

On the moving day:
1. avoid quarrel and disputes - so that people staying in the new house have good relationship

2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam. - pineapple means profit, orange/lokam means gold. sdo this means increase owner's wealth.

3. On the lights and fans. - dark place attract the unseen. so lights up to chase them away (if any).

4. Boil water - use the stove, water = live.

6. Invite some family members and friends over and enjoy food. We ordered pizzas. - to increase the human qi.

7. Turn on musics and TV, if any. - to live up the environment , quiet place also attract the unseen i guess.

8. After that leave at least one light on for 3 days. - same as 3

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post Jan 10 2012, 10:33 AM

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Since we are talking about this, start another discussion about people that have its house FS audit.

In Feng Shui term, the most important is to get the house Gua, occupant Gua (Life Gua) to match with timing for house move in.

There are few method for date selection, very basic is using the "Thong Seng" book and go temple to find a good date, this is the most basic date selection, the more advance is to match with house sitting, and find a good timing, which limit the good date it have, some house may be advice not to move in on specific year (That is you believe).

A good date/timing does not mean you get super result, a good timing may give you a head start, or making you better luck or meet more helpful people.

If this is too superstitious, just ignore my comment above.


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post Jan 10 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 10 2012, 09:11 AM)
Skng03, wanted to check with u on the tan Lou. With fan on, will the fire be too big? U mean u use the tan Lou to boil soup aarr...can it? I bought a super mini one only...coz heavy to carry..

And need to bring the tan Lou walk around the house first?

As for the salt, sauce etc...I was told to bring in the same day as move in day, not before. Which would be the correct thing to do...anybody hv any idea?


Added on January 10, 2012, 9:13 amOzak traditions, we all hope that it'll bring peace and 'ji li' and it also proves that ure the owner moving in
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i bot the small size one too as this is just for "yap for" purpose. the tan lou come with a timber frame, don't throw away that frame else u can move it once it heated up

as for the salt, cuka, sugar..... i bot all new one so bring in before move in. was told my my old man can bring whatever new thing 1st, so basically i bot almost everything new and when move in day, just bring over my old wok, pots, plate, fork, knife....and some shirts & and valuables.....just 1 load in my honda odyssey, no hire lorry..

QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 10 2012, 09:40 AM)
I understand that all this thing will bring whatever good thing to the house and owner. But I see the list is so long that I wonder each of this thing do bring any meaning or not.

Like

1. avoid quarrel and disputes  -> what this mean?
2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam. --> what this mean?

and so on and on.
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ozak, me & wify want as simple as we can, is not us wanted to follow all this long list but just to pleased/ show respect to our old gens, what they say just follow lor
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post Jan 10 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 10 2012, 09:40 AM)
I understand that all this thing will bring whatever good thing to the house and owner. But I see the list is so long that I wonder each of this thing do bring any meaning or not.

Like

1. avoid quarrel and disputes  -> what this mean?
2. Do or hold auspicious/meaningful items when walk into the house. My brother in law insist we roll a pineapple from the main door into the house before stepping in. Some said throw shillings, some said bring ang pows, oranges of lokam. --> what this mean?

and so on and on.
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Not that I wanted to do these, but to avoid in laws and family nagging later, I did it. 1st, avoid dispute. It's a feng shui saying like don't brinv or create negative vibe to ur new home. Concept is the same as when during chinese new year we are to avoid quarreling.

Also the usual concept on why chinese wear red, bring lokam when visiting ppl, give ang pow during cny. Cos it means auspicious and luck. Bringing these into house also means bringing wealth and luck into the house cos oranges, lokam usually link with illusion of gold.

Not trying to sound like lillian too, since coincidently I have all these things lying around (happen to have oranges in my fridge and just got 2012 red packets from company), no harm bringing them to the house. As for the tan lou, since I don't have and not planning to buy one, I just skip it.. I'll admit the pineapple is overly done, but it's fun to play with it. Also my hubby loves eating it, no harm buying one for rm1.50.
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jan 10 2012, 10:33 AM)
ozak, me & wify want as simple as we can, is not us wanted to follow all this long list but just to pleased/ show respect to our old gens, what they say just follow lor
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Sometime very hard not to follow right? smile.gif This thing just too many to follow. Which each person will create a creative way over the time and generation.

I believe in science and logic where probably will intepret to another meaning and not logic too for me. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(hAnn @ Jan 10 2012, 09:45 AM)
hey guys, i moved in my new house without doing anything mentioned above... what will happen to me?? im a single guy living alone, i bought everything necessities, once done n ready, i just move in lol... only had a simple open house inviting frens n relatives.
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No worry hann, shouldn't be any problem. It's just a tradition.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 10 2012, 10:44 AM)
Sometime very hard not to follow right? smile.gif  This thing just too many to follow. Which each person will create a creative way over the time and generation.

I believe in science and logic where probably will intepret to another meaning and not logic too for me. biggrin.gif
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Btw in term of FS, it is strongly related to Scientific which is related to Energy Flow (Joule) in the environment smile.gif
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Jan 10 2012, 11:31 AM)
Btw in term of FS, it is strongly related to Scientific which is related to Energy Flow (Joule) in the environment smile.gif
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Yup, I believe in FS. It sound mystery science more to me.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 10 2012, 11:54 AM)
Yup, I believe in FS. It sound mystery science more to me.
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Yeah me 2 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(leeyung @ Jan 10 2012, 12:16 PM)
Yeah me  biggrin.gif
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Do you follow the Tong Shu move in date? or Actual FS move in date?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 12:20 PM)
Do you follow the Tong Shu move in date? or Actual FS move in date?
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I follow both biggrin.gif did consult a sifu for that brows.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 12:27 PM

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Consult sifoo .. get a date and follow his instructions.
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Jan 10 2012, 12:21 PM)
I follow both biggrin.gif did consult a sifu for that brows.gif
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QUOTE(six66 @ Jan 10 2012, 12:27 PM)
Consult sifoo .. get a date and follow his instructions.
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tong shu, go temple to get a date or FS sifoo, all depend on what u believe... cost wise tong shu< temple< FS sifoo.

i pay FS si foo to calculate both mine & wify birthday+ time to get the move in timing nod.gif
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post Jan 10 2012, 12:37 PM

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Wah u all terbalik with me. My parents old folks dont care at all, where else I'm the one want to do all these...haha
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 10 2012, 12:37 PM)
Wah u all terbalik with me. My parents old folks dont care at all, where else I'm the one want to do all these...haha
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Moving new house, once or twice maybe 3 times per life, just follow bah, at least felt comfort with it after done smile.gif
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Just done similar last Saturday, except below:-

ON all the lights to message the evil day before moving in
Hanging the Red Color silk at the main door day before moving in
DON'T bring any old things into the house before the move date / time or after praying (hence my old aircon didn’t installed too sad.gif )

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LOL.. I am staying alone and I have done some of it only, like:

i) throw the mixed beans (5 type of beans or nuts) at all the corners few days earlier
ii) boil water (but i use gas stove only tongue.gif)
iii) open all the doors and windows
iv) place rice, cooking oil, salt, tea in the kitchen





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post Jan 10 2012, 02:58 PM

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Corniecorm, u throw few days before"? The guy who calculated my move in date ask me throw on same day... Aiseh very mafan le..coz need to carry the salt..etc, then tan Lou then throw the beans..

Oh got burn incense also...I dunno who to follow..


Added on January 10, 2012, 2:59 pmBy the way, what are the five beans u foUnd? I only found 4 types...

Soya bean, red and green beans and ??


Added on January 10, 2012, 4:58 pmBy the way, for plates, chopstick , brooms and mop...does it need to be new?

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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 10 2012, 02:58 PM)



Added on January 10, 2012, 4:58 pmBy the way, for plates, chopstick , brooms and mop...does it need to be new?
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for my case all new, cause i want to bring in / prepare before move in....
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post Jan 11 2012, 12:16 AM

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U mean...if old can't bring in first?

Aiyoo..how..my old house pots n pans n plates all I put in the house already like ages ago
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post Jan 11 2012, 08:13 AM

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Actually mine was burn the red fire cracker b4 the 1st hack of renovation. Then once all reno done, house thoroughly cleaned, the day i shift in b4 12pm, i burn 2 sets of red fire cracker again, front & back.

Sorts of give me comfort to inform "occupants" if any that am shifting in, pls vacant my house forever.
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Ling hor soon kei yau but hor soon kei mou.

It happenned to my christian brother and his wife. My mom say choose date, but being a stubborn christian my mom's advise falls on deaf ears. On the same day they move in, in the evening my dad received a call from my brother"help me..i cant move...pls come now..we need to go hospital" my dad drove like schumacker and reached his house in record time.

Both of them had severe diarrhea, immobile and dehydrated.my dad had to carry both of then to the car before sending them to the hospital.

This is a real event. My brother is moving next week and this time, he consults my mother for a good date! rclxms.gif

the moral of the story tells us not to take mom's advise for granted.
if anyone is moving or intends to renovate, please, at least check the Chinese calendar. there are plentiful apps out the for both andorid and iphone. i can't read chinese but i sure as hell know RED wordings is a big NO NO. nod.gif



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post Jan 11 2012, 09:07 AM

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i just finished my "yap for" yesterday..10/01 is good day if i am not cheated...so, we try to do some simple tasks like hang red textile, hold burning charcoal stove in house till kitchen, boiling water....those tat will make my house dirty been rejected by me..haha
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QUOTE(tiensong @ Jan 11 2012, 09:07 AM)
i just finished my "yap for" yesterday..10/01 is good day if i am not cheated...so, we try to do some simple tasks like hang red textile, hold burning charcoal stove in house till kitchen, boiling water....those tat will make my house dirty been rejected by me..haha
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This is your version right? Not tradition culture type?
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Yesterday is good date, only "Chong" Rat year.

Usually for move in, is to align the mattress, before the move in mattress don't put in or align to final location. Put bed sheet., use the stove, and of course the door need to open up too.

Is what we call "tong hei" move the Chi.
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 10 2012, 02:58 PM)
Corniecorm, u throw few days before"? The guy who calculated my move in date ask me throw on same day... Aiseh very mafan le..coz need to carry the salt..etc, then tan Lou then throw the beans..

Oh got burn incense also...I dunno who to follow..


Added on January 10, 2012, 2:59 pmBy the way, what are the five beans u foUnd? I only found 4 types...

Soya bean, red and green beans and ??


Added on January 10, 2012, 4:58 pmBy the way, for plates, chopstick , brooms and mop...does it need to be new?
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the five type of beans are red bean, green bean, soya bean, black bean and "mei dou" (not sure the eng name, but normally used in making dumpling), and also mixed with rice and tea. smile.gif

yaya, throw few days before. After throw, close all the doors, left it for at least 24 hrs. That is what was told by the elders. rolleyes.gif
just ikut only...
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 11 2012, 09:22 AM)
This is your version right? Not tradition culture type?
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yes my version.....personally I don't believe much on it....=)
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QUOTE(tiensong @ Jan 11 2012, 10:02 AM)
yes my version.....personally I don't believe much on it....=)
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Sometime I very confuse. rclxub.gif If list down all this thing need to do just base from your guys write here is kinda long.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 11 2012, 10:05 AM)
Sometime I very confuse. rclxub.gif  If list down all this thing need to do just base from your guys write here is kinda long.
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Don't take it so seriously....i know many big boss never follow any of them when they moved into bungalow...one of the boss will move in during CNY..he said, any day during CNY also a good day, so don't need to look for good date..


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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 11 2012, 12:16 AM)
U mean...if old can't bring in first?

Aiyoo..how..my old house pots n pans n plates all I put in the house already like ages ago
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Old stock but new should consider new lor.. used one don't bring in first ...........
just to make u feel more comfortable ..hehe
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Wow, so many traditions to follow!
All those mentioned so far are Chinese traditions.
My partner is Indian, so will be having Hindu prayers in the house before we move in.
Should be sufficient? hehe... tongue.gif
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Okay...I removed the old brooms...etc. but I left the vacuum cleaner there. Is it must totally remove every old stuff?
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Wahh so many thing to do ... stress liao sweat.gif

I am doing Pooja biggrin.gif
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What's pooja?
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QUOTE(@Adele @ Jan 11 2012, 10:16 PM)
What's pooja?
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Should be "Puja", google it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 11 2012, 11:09 PM)
Should be "Puja", google it  laugh.gif
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Doesn't 'puja' mean prayers?
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huh.gif I just moved in with a suitcase so that it is easy for me to clean and paint the house before I really move everything over. Does this consider 'yap for' already?
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I think if u already slept over in the house is consider yes already
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QUOTE(helee @ Jan 12 2012, 01:55 PM)
Doesn't 'puja' mean prayers?
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