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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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ngweichoong
post Jan 27 2012, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 27 2012, 03:58 PM)
please read my posting and understand the meaning of it, rather than simply firing blindly.


Added on January 27, 2012, 3:00 pm
if the car hasn't been launched, how do you know its bad quality? have you actually sat in the car or driven one yourself?  hmm.gif
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How do you know the car is good quality ? I don't mind to paid 120K if Hyundai make me believe their car quality is same like H and T, BUT NOW IS NOT
Hai..still not able to understand human economy doh.gif
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Jan 27 2012, 03:04 PM)
You can simply say it's ppl fault not make enough money for this car and blame SD for pricing it high blindly, Y i can't say you are even not affordable for the lowest spec and try to boost yourself to be wise enough here.
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like i said, understand what i am trying to say before you start shooting.


Added on January 27, 2012, 3:10 pm
QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 27 2012, 03:07 PM)
How do you know the car is good quality ? I don't mind to paid 120K if Hyundai make me believe their car quality is same like H and T, BUT NOW IS NOT
Hai..still not able to understand human economy  doh.gif
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didn't i mention to wait till Feb20th? whistling.gif

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post Jan 27 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ngweichoong @ Jan 27 2012, 03:07 PM)
How do you know the car is good quality ? I don't mind to paid 120K if Hyundai make me believe their car quality is same like H and T, BUT NOW IS NOT
Hai..still not able to understand human economy  doh.gif
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been driving 2 honda over a 9 yrs period and i don't see the quality is tat good!

Waiting for the rite car to move on.
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 27 2012, 04:09 PM)
like i said, understand what i am trying to say before you start shooting.


Added on January 27, 2012, 3:10 pm
didn't i mention to wait till Feb20th?  whistling.gif
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Lunchtime, i guess your real identity either Hyundai salesmen or Elantra 2011 Died Hard fan. Even you are Elantra Fan you are also a "poor" Died Hard fan...the way you deal with "Money".....
Anyway please..please go ahead with Elantra 2011 even with the price RM120K. Don't withdraw drool.gif
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 27 2012, 02:44 PM)
what makes you think SD will take your views into account?
I only said "IF",

sad truth is, the blame is on yourself for not making enough money, however like most people, we don't see ourselves at fault, thus it must the the fault of others and in this case, its SD's fault for purported high pricing.
The truth is you try to bring down and match other ppl's mindset as dumb as you. Ppl not said it's not affordable but just put the value for money into the argument.

as for value for $, if this car is given a spec sheet longer than a toilet roll, why must it be cheaper than a H or T? are you basing it on the perceived value of the car? do you think SD will have the same views as well?
The spec sheet you mean here is based on assumption only. As for now, at least we find J car resale value is better than Hyundai,isn't it not enough? How SD think we have nothing can do on it.

forummers here present a small sample of the population and not everyone thinks alike. expensive or otherwise is relative to your income.
At least you are the so-called small population. It's the issue of car value and not related to whether it's expensive or income problem.
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:31 PM

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post Jan 27 2012, 03:33 PM

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why then you didn't bang on SD's door to make your point? why make your point in a LYN thread? whistling.gif
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:38 PM

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Fail car again by hyundai cause of SD dumbness, you won't see this car quantity will be more than forte on our bolehland road. I think will end up like cheverolette cruze. Lets say Ratio of 1 avante : 1 cruze : 10 forte. Something like that. Maybe once in a blue moon will appear in front of our eye. Hehe.


Added on January 27, 2012, 3:40 pmBut ok la, still can sell 1 out of 10. Give them some applause.

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post Jan 27 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 27 2012, 03:33 PM)
why then you didn't bang on SD's door to make your point?  why make your point in a LYN thread?  whistling.gif
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Really wasting time to "discuss" with you, did your comman sense tell you or ever see Customer direct deal with Distributor (SD) and not their vendor (Hyundai) ? if this is the way then Hyundai no need to open a thread in Facebook and here.

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post Jan 27 2012, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Oink @ Jan 27 2012, 04:17 PM)
been driving 2 honda over a 9 yrs period and i don't see the quality is tat good!

Waiting for the rite car to move on.
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In market, the Honda quality reputation is higher then Hyundai and that is why the Honda second hand value drop slower than Hyundai. Of course no one can get 100% perfect car but as the consumer may need to reduce the risk to get the bad car before the money still in their pocket. No one always like to struggle with the service center even give 5 year warranty....
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:45 PM

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Honestly, a sane man (rich or poor) will compare the value of the car given and its price tag. For me, this car is overpriced and it doesn't get the oversea goodies (not the useless gadgets but the real GDI or CVVL stuffs).
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Jan 27 2012, 03:43 PM)
Really wasting time to "discuss" with you, did your comman sense tell you or ever see Customer direct deal with Distributor (SD) and not their vendor (Hyundai) ? if this is the way then Hyundai no need to open a thread in Facebook and here.
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hahaha its the hoildays thumbup.gif
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM

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1.6 Elantra pls sell price similar to toyota vios or honda city........
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(cba5566 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM)
1.6 Elantra pls sell price similar to toyota vios or honda city........
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Similar to H and T, but you get manual transmission instead. cool2.gif
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Jan 27 2012, 04:43 PM)
Really wasting time to "discuss" with you, did your comman sense tell you or ever see Customer direct deal with Distributor (SD) and not their vendor (Hyundai) ? if this is the way then Hyundai no need to open a thread in Facebook and here.
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I suspect lunchtime is the Hyundai salesman . Think twice if really want to take the Hyundai car....Look their salesmen totally not pro enough ........
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:52 PM

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Cause that hyundai salesman going to eat grass again or bread. No sales.. woohoo.
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jan 27 2012, 03:51 PM)
Similar to H and T, but you get manual transmission instead.  cool2.gif
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In fact I'm looking for the manual car.
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cba5566 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:54 PM)
In fact I'm looking for the manual car.
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Again, if it suited to your taste and requirements and you are afford to own it, go ahead without any doubt. While others prefer best bang for their bucks might stay put.
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post Jan 27 2012, 03:57 PM

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which posting of mine did i ask you people to buy the elantra? i said, buy if you can afford the price, else look elsewhere. if you don't understand the meaning of this simple statement, then you need english lessons as well.

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post Jan 27 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 27 2012, 11:34 AM)
The way I look at it.

Buying a car u have a value lost over the years, cant be help.

Buying THIS car u have a Bigger then average loss over the year. If over 3 years I lost an extra 30k compared to say buying an accord.

I might as well put in the extra 30k initially and buy a different car, and at RM120k, I can just buy a Rm150k jap, and I doubt the specs would be much less compared to elantra.

As for korean cars, I have 2 at home now, their drop is bigger then what i woudl like, my proton/nissan depreciation is still acceptable.

As for being able to "afford" it or not, that is a different thing all together, just cause I can afford it doesnt mean I should make a bad buying decision which will end up costing me more $$ then it should have.
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Bro, you'd be surprised at how much depreciation you will experience with a D-segment smile.gif

I did this comparison in another thread:

2003 Camry 2.0 (the big backside model) New price = RM140k
2003 Sonata 2.0 New price = RM110K

2003 Camry 2.0 now = RM55k
2003 Sonata 2.0 now = RM25k

Camry's depreciation = RM85k
Sonata's depreciation = RM85k

So at the end of the day, what does it tell you? Both cars lost RM85k over a span of 9 yrs, or a flatline depreciation of RM9,444 per annum.

If you're comparing the C-segment Elantra vs the C-segment Civic then yes, the Civic will retain more value over the years.

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