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 2012 Hyundai Elantra, Hello Impossible!

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post Feb 15 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Feb 15 2012, 01:12 PM)
Logically it's depend on buyers. I also find it weird to see why people or my friends who prefer buy old lancer or Inspirated.
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like ppl spend 100k to buy old bmw la.

other wise the most logical thing should be some saga or myvi only.

at least we get to choose. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Feb 15 2012, 01:12 PM)
Logically it's depend on buyers. I also find it weird to see why people or my friends who prefer buy old lancer or Inspirated.
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My SA just SMS to me on 22 Feb, there have a roadshow at Mid-valley and the new Elantra also be there (confirm)
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post Feb 15 2012, 01:23 PM

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My guess that there are some kind of fans of this MIVEC or VTEC in Bolehland.
Pelik bila lihat EG or EK civic still can sell 20-40K although already more 15 yrs old.
Same story, my friends still buy 2nd hand lancer although I tell them a lot of car better. Hmmm.. MIVEC & VTEC special case.


Added on February 15, 2012, 1:24 pm
QUOTE(Super Hero @ Feb 15 2012, 01:22 PM)
My SA just SMS to me on 22 Feb, there have a roadshow at Mid-valley and the new Elantra also be there (confirm)
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Hopefully good news.

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post Feb 15 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Feb 15 2012, 01:23 PM)
My guess that there are some kind of fans of this MIVEC or VTEC in Bolehland.
Pelik bila lihat EG or EK civic still can sell 20-40K although already more 15 yrs old.
Same story, my friends still buy 2nd hand lancer although I tell them a lot of car better. Hmmm.. MIVEC & VTEC special case.
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old vtec is different.

100hp per liter. those are for speedster biggrin.gif

mivec, you mean the old mivec in wira/waja, those are really power biggrin.gif can turbocharged somemore.

the newer one.....er.........not anymore.

you prefer ppl to love china cars or some old xxxxxx car? lol.
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 01:25 PM)
old vtec is different.

100hp per liter. those are for speedster biggrin.gif

mivec, you mean the old mivec in wira/waja, those are really power biggrin.gif can turbocharged somemore.

the newer one.....er.........not anymore.

you prefer ppl to love china cars or some old xxxxxx car? lol.
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The evo10 mivec also turbo charged mar
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(JC999 @ Feb 15 2012, 02:04 PM)
The evo10 mivec also turbo charged mar
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i mean the ordinary lancer that you see on the road, very seldom u can see they BOT it. unlike wira.

evox of cos came with a turbo already.
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 11:25 AM)
factory quote 210km/h
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somebody have done 230km/h with his stock fd2 civic..the only mod he done is AD08 tyre..anyone know the highest speed done by Lancer/inspira stock? hmm.gif
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post Feb 15 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 11:14 AM)
er....i tot civic is based on 7 generations of success( 16.5 millions on the road as of 2006)  and the road handling, and the k20a ivtec and" the 5 speed auto paddleshift gearbox that is tailor made to mate with k20a" for Civic?

not many 2.0liter NA family sedan car can match civic acceleration and top speed.

its not just looks biggrin.gif
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But I believe the styling is one of the major factor that rocketed the Civic's sales. People who don't know much about cars will not bother to care about the i-Vtec or how many gears or performance... If you talking about those factors, Lancer is quite similar yet Lancer was selling badly compared to Civic even before it was Proton-ised. If you are to talk about generations of success, I believe Corolla had better reputation than Civic. Then you look at Sonata and Tucson, both of them don't have much reputation compared to the Japanese yet they are selling at decent numbers now. There are still many people don't care (or know) much about the spec or mechanical of the cars but they care about the styling of the cars if they are indifferent about the resale value or reputation or after sales.
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post Feb 15 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Feb 15 2012, 02:31 PM)
But I believe the styling is one of the major factor that rocketed the Civic's sales. People who don't know much about cars will not bother to care about the i-Vtec or how many gears or performance... If you talking about those factors, Lancer is quite similar yet Lancer was selling badly compared to Civic even before it was Proton-ised. If you are to talk about generations of success, I believe Corolla had better reputation than Civic. Then you look at Sonata and Tucson, both of them don't have much reputation compared to the Japanese yet they are selling at decent numbers now. There are still many people don't care (or know) much about the spec or mechanical of the cars but they care about the styling of the cars if they are indifferent about the resale value or reputation or after sales.
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look + reputation = sells.

pure look = can sell in small number

pure reputation = sells.

right?

pure look +goodies X100 = can sell in small numbers.

why are u dragging in all the cars to confuse ppl? hmm.gif

like that, every car can sell. even rubbish like juara/ tiara.

lancer? you buy rm110k car ask you to go service in EON center, you want or not?

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 03:03 PM)
look + reputation = sells.

pure look = can sell in small number

pure reputation = sells.

right?

pure look  +goodies X100 = can sell in small numbers.

why are u dragging in all the cars to confuse ppl?  hmm.gif

like that, every car can sell. even rubbish like juara/ tiara.

lancer? you buy rm110k car ask you to go service in EON center, you want or not?
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Latio selling so badly maybe Nissan no reputation also... But then GL selling so well... icon_rolleyes.gif
Why 110k don't want to go EON? Not 1.1million... doh.gif
sell in small numbers also have to see how small or big is it... Mazda6 got look + goodies + Japan reputation, but the sales laugh.gif

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QUOTE(caddilac @ Feb 15 2012, 03:14 PM)
Latio selling so badly maybe Nissan no reputation also... But then GL selling so well... icon_rolleyes.gif
Why 110k don't want to go EON? Not 1.1million... doh.gif
sell in small numbers also have to see how small or big is it... Mazda6 got look + goodies + Japan reputation, but the sales laugh.gif
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mazda 6 too fierce, ah pek scare. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 03:20 PM)
mazda 6 too fierce, ah pek scare. laugh.gif
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But Optima seems to be selling quite decently despite the fierce looking.. Maybe still in honeymoon period... Until now get to see 4 Optimas otr... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 15 2012, 02:06 PM)
i mean the ordinary lancer that you see on the road, very seldom u can see they BOT it. unlike wira.

evox of cos came with a turbo already.
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Engine still new to do bot on la.. nowadays people go for low pressure turbo for daily drive. Those big bot ons hardly people mod them anymore plus its not easy to do 1, have to change alot of things.
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post Feb 15 2012, 11:52 PM

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beli ni saja la.... wait till bit sien d... tongue.gif

http://www.yuen89.com/2012/02/proton-p3-21...ils-leaked.html


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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Feb 15 2012, 11:52 PM)
beli ni saja la.... wait till bit sien d... tongue.gif

http://www.yuen89.com/2012/02/proton-p3-21...ils-leaked.html
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the spec...very keng..

but the outlook abit sad
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post Feb 16 2012, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Feb 16 2012, 12:03 AM)
the spec...very keng..

but the outlook abit sad
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interior okay mah...
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Feb 16 2012, 12:05 AM)
interior okay mah...
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bro, outlook must be sexy...else hard to grab attention..

somehow nowadays everyone follow the same interior design..

by the way, hard to believe proton being so generous...wonder wat the price
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post Feb 16 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Feb 16 2012, 12:17 AM)
bro, outlook must be sexy...else hard to grab attention..

somehow nowadays everyone follow the same interior design..

by the way, hard to believe proton being so generous...wonder wat the price
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Ppl said Vios looks ugly but still seated as top sales for Non-local car in M'sia. so outlook is not so important for MOST ppl.
I bet the new Proton P3-21A can pawn Elantra gao gao if the price is more than 10-15K gaps.
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post Feb 16 2012, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Chongkor @ Feb 16 2012, 08:55 AM)
Ppl said Vios looks ugly but still seated as top sales for Non-local car in M'sia. so outlook is not so important for MOST ppl.
I bet the new Proton P3-21A can pawn Elantra gao gao if the price is more than 10-15K gaps.
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vios ugly but branded and according to them, reliable biggrin.gif

and its the cheapest reasonable import car tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Feb 15 2012, 12:03 AM)
so many politics and ppl can object the pricing, Naza pulled off a miracle to be able to sell forte 2.0 below 100k then.
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ya its a miracle lol for a 2.0 c segment.
the 1.6, are said to be 65k but of course others complain so no way to get that.

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