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post Nov 21 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 21 2012, 04:30 PM)
Oh I tot got supplier/distributor at Malaysia... laugh.gif

Omg LYN snare shop...sounds gooding thumbup.gif
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No, but it shouldn't be too expensive la. smile.gif Maybe after my exams in January I'll start work on some snares. wink.gif

QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 21 2012, 05:09 PM)
Yo guys where can find snare accent ghost note groove to practice??

U know wadda mean? like just playing on the snare but make some funky rhythms with ghost notes and accent...

recently it sounds good to me haha... kinda sick of doing double bass.. practice so hard only reach 155 bpm sweat.gif and not really usefull compare some funky snare groove
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Hmm. I don't know. I kinda just do the ghost note thing according to how I feel, and its like motorized already. HAHA. If you're looking for double bass+ghost notes... Go Periphery. Matt Halpern's ghost notes are sick.


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post Nov 22 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 21 2012, 07:56 PM)
i tot maybe got some kind of well known groove just for practice... cos i dunno much snare kind of groove
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You could always try playing along to songs with stuff like that smile.gif

QUOTE(jacksonsum95 @ Nov 22 2012, 01:58 PM)
Can i ask some questions? Where can i get promark drumstick? Coz looking for it and most store dont have sell it...
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You can get it from me at special rates at if you're buying in bulk smile.gif JS Music stocks them.
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post Nov 23 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 22 2012, 11:04 PM)
Yo guys,

Please teach me how to muffle/tune snare drum. My fuking snare sound so loud i cant play dynamics or ghost notes. Touch only it will sound CHAK!!!! doh.gif
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Try changing your heads? Sometimes its the snare too. Some snares, you just can't play soft. HAHA.


QUOTE(liow_c @ Nov 23 2012, 03:42 PM)
Hi All drummers,

I'm Isaac, from beginning until was just playing in church, mainly rock, funk and some easy shuffle (no odd-time, progressive rock etc haha.too scary in church)

Nice to meet u all.
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Hey there, I'm Isaac too. wink.gif HAHA

I play in church as well, but I do play secular music too. Hey, and you can go slightly odd-time stuff in church too. Just a little bitmore creativity wink.gif
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post Nov 27 2012, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Nov 26 2012, 12:31 AM)
Can someone kindly recommend a place in Klang Valley where I can browse and buy a drum set for my wife who has recently started drumming lessons.

I have been to the one at Ikano Power Center and also the one at Paradigm Mall. I read that Bentley is a no-no place.

Any advice is most welcome.
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Well, its not that Bentley's is a no-no place. You could always browse there, or JS Music, or Music Master. smile.gif
If you'd like some discounts PM me. smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Nov 28 2012, 03:15 PM)
5p3ak, Thanks for the recommendation. JS Music is indeed a nice place to browse and look at drums. Bought two sets of Vic Firth drumsticks. My wife likes them. As for drums we are considering PDP Mainstage and PDP Z5.

The Sales Manager, Ray Lang recommended Z5.

Me and my wife know nuts about drums; so both of us decided to delay the purchase until later. She is just into her fifth drum lesson tongue.gif


Added on November 28, 2012, 3:18 pm

Thanks for the offer. We will let you know once we have decided on the make and model. Currently we are somewhat overwhelmed by the choices available.
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You're welcome. smile.gif I'm also letting go of a used set. It's a Ludwig Epic, still in extremely good condition. Do let me know if you're interested in this as well. Thanks!





On another note, should I go for a Ludwig Acrolite or a Pearl Omar Hakim Signature, or a Pork Pie Mahogany/Birch snare? HAHA. Your thoughts, guys?
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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Nov 28 2012, 09:15 PM)
Photo? Price?
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I'm letting go for RM2.6k. Four toms, can be configured to 3 rack toms and one floor tom or two rack toms and two floor toms. Basically, I've only used it once for a recording session, it's in perfect condition. I stay in a condominium, so there's no use if I just keep it around in boxes. smile.gif Retail is RM4090.

The set includes hardware (stands and pedal), four toms and one bass drum. I'll throw in any snare of your choice at a 20% discount. smile.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 29 2012, 08:40 AM)
Haha no problem,

IMO I prefer M5 mainly because it's Maple and has a Lacquered finish.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Bentley sells mainly Pearl and Tama Drums, both are also big companies...though I prefer Tama...cuz pearl's mounting system(The part where it fix the tom to bass drum) sucks laugh.gif


Added on November 29, 2012, 8:46 am
I'd say if you can hear them in person will be the best. What kind of characteristics are you looking for/at?  hmm.gif

However I've never heard anything but good things about Acrolites.  thumbup.gif
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The M5 certainly is a pretty good kit. It's pretty much the same as the X7, which is a relatively good drumset for the price.

I'm looking for something versatile. Either something that's versatile and sounds good with loads of tunings/head choices (Omar Hakim), or something so unique and distinct that it can work with everything (Acrolite).
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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Nov 29 2012, 06:20 PM)
May I know the colour of the Ludwig Epic set? It's a very tempting offer.
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It's like this one smile.gif
http://www.ludwig-drums.com/images/kits/epic_3152.jpg
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post Nov 30 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 30 2012, 07:39 AM)
I think if you already have a wood snare go metal snare...vice versa  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I had a wood snare and a metal snare. I sold both smile.gif HAHA.

QUOTE(zacharyseng @ Nov 30 2012, 12:10 PM)
guys. i want to ask u guys something.
can u guys hit the hi hat with 8th notes at 180bpm?
is it possible without any technique and just normal stroke.
cause i search how to develop hihat speed. they teach u a technique but not speed itself.

so my question is anyone can hit fast like 180bpm with "normal" technique @8th notes?
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Firstly, ALL drumming needs technique. There is no such thing a no technique. smile.gif HAHA.

And you can't learn speed. Speed is something that develops with proper technique (even bad ones, occasionally), good form and practice. The reason why they teach you technique, is cause once you got the basics down at a slow speed, you'll maintain the same thing at faster levels, and your body will be able to cope more with it.


What is your definition of normal technique?


And yes, I can hit it. wink.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 30 2012, 05:24 PM)
Of course it's possible...with both hands  tongue.gif

Sorry can't resist, speed is a by product of control so you must start slow and able to control it then slowly speed up.  biggrin.gif

I can't do it with 1 hand yet though...max around 140-150  blush.gif
Eh so you are snare-less? laugh.gif

Aiya just flip a coin, both also great drums but I'd say wood is slightly "Pleasing to the ears"...not so much fatigue on the ears.

Hope you get what I mean. biggrin.gif
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I have just decided. smile.gif I will be going for a Supra. wink.gif



Anyway, I've started a new project with a bunch of other talented young musicians from Malaysia. Please do support this project by liking it on facebook at facebook.com/the12project and following it on Twitter at @the12band . You can find out more about the musicians on the page itself. smile.gif

We're also giving away a free Stardust Fuzz pedal made by Malaysia's very own Lynessmy. All you have to do is to just like the page, and tell us what you would like to see from the local music scene. The post with the most likes will receive the fuzz! smile.gif This can be the perfect Christmas present for a friend or a loved one, and the best part is that its free!

We're working on a crowdfunding basis, where if you decide to support the project in kind, you will receive free merchandise and downloads in return! More details are available at http://www.facebook.com/notes/the-12-proje...171227876356469 . Thanks!
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 30 2012, 07:09 PM)
Nice...later post some pics  rclxms.gif

Saw your project, liked it already...so you're the drummer?  hmm.gif
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HAHA. Go win your brother that free fuzz pedal too wink.gif

I'm drumming along with Bazly from MirrorMirror. He's the former drum tech of AVG and Subculture, he's also worked with local powerhouse Tres Empre before smile.gif


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post Dec 5 2012, 08:05 PM

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We are a bit dead. HAHA.

On the brighter side, SPM is over, and I'm close to securing my first gig as a contract sessionist. smile.gif
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post Dec 6 2012, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Dec 6 2012, 11:55 AM)
Showed my wife the picture of the Ludwig Epic. She didn't like it.
She likes the PDP Concept Maple ... White finishing.  sweat.gif
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HAHA Alright then smile.gif All the best in your wife's drumming future! smile.gif Feel free to contact me if you need help with anything.

On another note, I'm drumming at The Pool KL next Saturday with VIMA-nominated band HardCandy. We'll be at the club after 7pm. A solo artiste will be performing before us, then we'l take the stage. Do come and drop by! smile.gif


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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 6 2012, 07:42 PM)
Wah...Session Drummer here... notworthy.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:45 pm

Wah...Session Drummer here... notworthy.gif
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HAHAHA No la. Maybe we'll have something in January, in a club in Mont Kiara. Details not finalized yet. Will let you guys know if anything works out.

QUOTE(cyberixus @ Dec 6 2012, 11:11 PM)
Thank you very much.
Will give you a call if we are to drop by.
You must be awesome!!  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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Awesome smile.gif HAHA. No, I'm just a drummer who's blessed with opportunities. HAHA.

For anyone who's interested, cover charge is RM35 for guys above 21, and free for girls over 18, inclusive of a drink. Do give me a call/text at +6012-2235233 if you're planning to drop by.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 7 2012, 04:26 PM)
Your modesty is killing me  tongue.gif
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HAHA. Let's have a LYN drummer's showcase one day, and everyone brings their band or something. Then you can see how my playing is. HAHA Okay? smile.gif And btw, it's not very good. HAHA.
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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Dec 8 2012, 03:50 PM)
I did ask ... and it was some "J" brand. The cymbals have some J logo printed on it. Generally, how much should I spend on cymbals alone?

There's zildjian, istanbul, meinl, paiste, sabian .... not to mention there's so much options within each brand.

It's like Chee Cheong Fun with multiple choices of sauces. Different sauce will bring different taste.

Maybe if you guys can tell me what cymbals you guys are using or prefer ... it'll help me narrow down the selection.

If you have the time, do tell how did you go about buying your first set of cymbals. Whether it sucks or not tongue.gif and whether you regret it tongue.gif LOL


Added on December 8, 2012, 3:52 pmHow often do you need to replace the cymbals?
I just learnt that there'll be wear and tear. And cymbals need replacing.
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Alright. Just a note for everyone here. J Cymbals are Stagg cymbals, rebranded. I was talking with one of JSs head honchos, and its made in the same factory, to be sold with their own kits.

Honestly, it's all up to personal preference. It's a very subjective matter. I've played Sabian since I started drumming, and I've stuck with the brand ever since, for my personal cymbals. I use a mix of their "Modern Dark" HHX and "Modern Bright" AAX cymbals. I fins it gives me a nice palette of tones to play with. Of course, every single cymbal sounds different. No two cymbals, even in the same range or model selection, sound the same.

I feel that at the very least, you ought to follow this: Never buy brass cymbals. The lowest quality of cymbals that you should go for are B8 Bronze cymbals. Most beginner/intermediate lines are made from B8 Bronze (with some exceptions such as the Paiste 2002, which is a high end range). Most higher end cymbals are made of B20 Bronze, with traces of silver, and different hammering styles for different tones.

The amount of wear and tear on your cymbals will depend mainly on technique. If your technique is good, your cymbals will obviously last longer than if your technique isn't. Sometimes old cymbals do sound good as well. Again, personal taste wink.gif But then again, like most other things, aged crap cymbals will sound crappier, but good vintage cymbals MAY sound better. wink.gif

Most of the drummers I know change their cymbals not because of wear and tear, but because different situations/genres/setups require a different tonal palette, or maybe its cause their own tastes have changed. smile.gif I used to love having everything bright and cutting, but now that I'm playing in more and more situations where I need the dark blend, and I'm not doing as much hard rock as I used to, I've slowly gotten darker cymbals into my setup, which are versatile enough to be used in several genres well enough.



On another note, I had my first practice with Hardcandy last night. Kit was a PDP 805, with Aquarian heads on them at Pulse Soundworks, Subang Jaya. Will take pictures tonight!

Playing at the Hard Rock Cafe KL on Sunday after The Pool KL on Saturday. wink.gif Not sure if its a closed event or open event.
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Dec 12 2012, 12:49 AM)
JS stop selling stagg cymbals since 2008. They stopped ordering stagg cymbals coz the price increases tremendously. Eventually, ultimate music brought it (not sure r they still selling it or not but I saw a few in their shop). JS design J cymbals with its logo and ordered it from the same factory as stagg.


Added on December 12, 2012, 12:54 amBtw, how do u all tune ur drums? Batter and reso head same pitch, batter higher or reso higher? I can't seem to fine tune my drums. I could hear the pitch difference in each lug but it'll either get to sharp or too flat even with a small tweak.
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I use DrumDials. smile.gif And the rest is depending on what sound I wanna get. smile.gif
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Dec 15 2012, 10:45 AM)
New member here. Recently bought a Tama Rhythm Mate biggrin.gif Came with a set of Solar cymbals.
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Hey! I played on a Tama RhythmMate last night at The Pool, KL with Hardcandy. It was a fun gig, to say the least smile.gif Didn't take pictures of the setup, but there will be photos up soon of the show.

I'm leaving for Hard Rock Cafe, for my soundcheck for my show tonight there, in about fifteen minutes. Will take pictures of the setup there this time, I promise. wink.gif HAHA.
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QUOTE(xDarkKnightx @ Dec 16 2012, 03:26 PM)
biggrin.gif. You do shows on a nightly basis? What kind of shows do you do?. I forgot to take a picture and my room is occupied by my brother now  doh.gif I swear I'll get a picture by today.

Also, my neighbour is kind of complaining about the noise I make. Can you guys teach me basic techniques for reducing escaped sound?
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Nope, depends on my sessions. smile.gif Its usually a lot of shows in a row, then a few breaks here and there. smile.gif

Here's the kit for tonight! It's a Japanese Yamaha. I think its a Birch Custom. Soundcheck just finished. Sounds killer. Remo heads on it. biggrin.gif Can't wait to start playing.

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 16 2012, 06:30 PM)
Wait Issac...is it me or there is a cymbal arm right in the middle of bass drum blocking you?

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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Dec 16 2012, 07:10 PM)
Looks like Zildjian and Sabian cymbals.

One rack and 2 floor toms? Normally I see 2 rack and and 1 Floor.

Was at Ikea today and bought a piece of rug. Didn't wanna set up the drums first and then buy the rug tongue.gif

Me and my wife went to scout around for some cymbals yesterday. Was at Ultimate Music, I was keen on the Stagg SH set [Bronze], but they did not have stock for them. Ken recommended the DXK set for RM890, my wife liked the sound of the cymbals. It's obviously brighter than the SH. But the thing is it is Brass.

JS has their J Basic cymbals. But I don't know how they sound.

Then, today at IPC we saw Meinl HCS going for RM800 and Sabian AAX set for RM3780  shocking.gif 

Whats the best-bang-for-the-buck-cymbals under RM1k?  icon_question.gif
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One rack and two floor toms. smile.gif Different drummers have their own preferences. Usually I play with no rack and two floors, but I needed a rack for this show..
Under RM1k? With discount, I'd suggest the Sabian B8 set.


And yes, the Sabian cymbals were mine, the Zildjians were with the house kit. More photos coming up on my Facebook shortly!

Oh, and there was an guy who worked with MTV there... (hint hint). brows.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(hey_there @ Dec 16 2012, 11:59 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, B8 is retailed at RM1699. Don't think it can go down to under rm1k after discount.

I usually see a lot of jazz players played with one Tom setting. Coz they'll have to constantly swing on the ride. Except travis barker who uses one Tom setting.
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A lot of rock/metal players now play with just one rack and one floor. You can play most thing with that set up already. smile.gif And its easy to setup and carry around.


And anyway, here's a bit more eyecandy from tonight's show. Everything else is on Facebook. HAHA.

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