Well I wound't say they're that expensive. Just buy Pro Grade Cymbals once and no longer need to upgrade.

Remember buying Used will save you lots.

Sabians aren't the same as Zildjians IMO. Sabians are more Innovative...look at the player's choice award. (Google that)

Anyways here're are the Zildjian/Sabian Equivalent to the other.

Zildjian As = Sabian AA
Zildjian Ks = Sabian HH
Zildjian A Custom = Sabian AAX
Zildjian K Custom = Sabian HHX.

BTW about my friend I said selling ludwig Epic drumset please proceed to click here

Not long lah...1year +- only

True that, also whenever possible try before you buy.

Unless you're buying from mycymbal.com (they're very good go youtube search)

Hmm, how about Meinls and Paiste? I don't see quite a number of people in the forum using these 2 brands no?

Trudat. Drum things include cymbals and drum itself best buy used. Just make sure no dents, cracks. Even if very beat up still can buy (this for drums itself only) unless u want order custom la *praise*

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Added on November 9, 2012, 11:58 amthat 2 brands also quite expensive.
Personally I using stagg lolol

This post has been edited by zacharyseng: Nov 9 2012, 11:59 AM

Gonna try them out...soon

Paiste make great cymbals, they have had the most success with B8 alloys, case in point the 2002s.

guys. what is your first drum set
mine is pearl target

My is Mapex M Birch the one I used in the drum cover

mine is my first and reigning champion: tama imperialstar..wahaha

ahh, i see
@5p3ak, tell me when u tried them

I don't even got one , have to go to my friend's house to practice, plan to get one after SPM , must mostly e-drums due to the residential area i live in, but if can will go for accoustic + silencer pads

dont make the same mistake as i did. buying overly priced new drum set and cymbals . buy used set and used cymbals. pedal can buy new.

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Added on November 9, 2012, 3:43 pmdont make the same mistake as i did. buying overly priced new drum set and cymbals . buy used set and used cymbals. pedal can buy new.

This post has been edited by zacharyseng: Nov 9 2012, 03:43 PM

Probably the best cymbals i've played ever...

1 & 2. Hey mate. I've got exactly the kit you want. Its a mid-level kit, RM4k plus at Bentleys. Its a Ludwig Epic in natural-black burst lacquer finish. I've only used it for a session once, and its been in boxes ever since. I sold the snare to Jimmy of Tempered Mental/Oh Chentaku a few years back (he's also a Ludwig fan l) ) So there isn't a snare with the set, BUT I can sort that out for you cause I can get you any snare for cheaper than retail. I'm not selling it with cymbals, but you can get them on the market here used. Budget 8k? No problem. My kit is in showroom condition, I'll sell it to you for RM2800 nego. If you buy from me, I'll also get you discounts on anything else you wanna grab, including heads, hardware and anything else (even for your bandmates).

3. I don't think there are drums that are particularly FOR playing outdoors "like DWs". In fact, DWs are some of the best kits in and out of the studio. I've played on a DW kit for a session I did late last year in a studio, and it sounded like what you'd expect a well-tuned DW to sound like. Amazing. Again, about the cymbals, I'm not a big Zildjian fan (I'm a major Sabian aficionado though), however, most of them can be used and ARE used in the studio as well. The A Custom series was specifically designed for use in the studio.

4. Alright. Rock on. HAHAHA.

5. Personally, I've never been comfortable playing with two bass drums. I can understand those who do though. For me, the hassle of having to lug around two bass drums to shows (when you don't have anyone else to do it for you) just doesn't make sense. I'm using a Yamaha double pedal now, and I used to have a pair of Iron Cobras. Never had trouble with them. Sturdy, and very durable, with great feel as well. Alignment is just something you've got to work with.

6. Cymbals, I'd recommend Sabian. I've been using them since I started playing drums, I've worked my way up the lines, and I'm using a mixed AAX/HHX setup at the moment that serves my playing well.

Meinl and Paiste aren't that big in Malaysia due to lack of promotion. You don't have drummers using those brands come down here to do clinics, etc. Bentley seems to just focus on Zildjian, and leave Paiste alone.

I do like a few Meinl cymbals and plenty of Paiste ones, though. The Meinl MB10s are pretty nice for metal stuff (that's the only context in which I've played them), and the Paiste 2002s are the only B8s that I've liked playing. HAHA.



Anyway, not many setups being posted up recently. Here's one from a session I did last Friday. I picked up where I last left off with switching my kits around, and I find playing in this setup rather comfortable with two floor toms, and that's about it. I didn't bring along my AAX and AA crashes dues to the amount of gear I had to lug around (including mics and MIDI equipment) so I used the house cymbals to complement my HHX hats and crash as well as my AAX ride.



The kit is a Ludwig Element in black, 14' and 16' toms, 14x6.5 snare, and a 20x20 kick drum I think, and of course, I used my trusty Evans heads. EMAD Coated for bass batter, Hydraulics on the toms, and Power Centre Reverse Dot on the snare. The mics used were Shure 57 overheads. Aesthetically, I guess the kit could have looked a little nicer, but I didn't bring all my hardware this time round, and the house kit didn't have many long/boom stands, so nevermind that. I'm using my Yamaha direct drive doubles on the bass. And of course, my Heartbeat Isaac Miranda sticks

This post has been edited by isaacmiranda7: Nov 9 2012, 03:50 PM

Ah alright, but gotta concentrate on my exam 1st, those things can find later

Paiste or Meinl?

Paiste Crashes are very shimmering...

Both also equally kick ass

My ultimate wishlist will be ufip cymbals,sadly no one sell in msia

I'd like to try bosphorus cymbals too...for some reason I find Turkish cymbals to be very musical to my ears

What is your drumming goal by 2014 ??

mine is probably cover most of green day's songs.
and maybe join a Punk Rock band

This post has been edited by zacharyseng: Nov 9 2012, 09:10 PM

Played them before? HAHA. They're pretty highly priced, right?


I've played Bosphorus and Istanbul before. They just didn't do it for me in a rock setting. (: They do sound good though. I feel that TRX is a better option for more modern styles. Very good customer service too. HAHA

By 2014, hmm. I'd like to have performed in front of a crowd of at least 10,000. HAHA. That was my goal for by when I reach 21 la, but I don't see why not sooner. maybe get a consistent amount of studio work coming in while I pursue my degree and a source of income as well.