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post Dec 23 2011, 09:21 PM

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Checking in, with news that I probably, probably won't get my new snare anytime soon. D:
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post Dec 25 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(muckstefan @ Dec 23 2011, 11:55 PM)
what snare are you getting bro? hmm.gif  smile.gif

btw regarding your last post,i think it all goes down to how much one can apply on a real kit with minimum practice equipment.some may be able to practice with only pads and with the combination of imagination,creativity and coordination they can spread what they learnt on pads onto a kit.that's not my case,because i think i'm more of that by-heart muscle-memory type of drummer.so from what i've experienced, i think one can never go wrong with a real kit...or an e-kit at least if the environment one is living in doesn't allow one to have a real kit.

you're talking about Chris Adler of LOG right? don't get me wrong,he's my favourite drummer hands down but i think he can be more than that if he started earlier.what i'm trying to say is instead of being godlike,he can be like (godlike)³.one example is our own Arthur Kam..godlike in the making. smile.gif
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Was saving up for a Battlefield 6 x 14, till my phone crashed and I had to get another one, then my power amp for my guitar-ing (which, incidentally, though I find myself more of a drummer, I tend to gig more on guitar) started to have some problems, so I'll have to save up for that and another cabinet to run. :/

hopefully, next year. biggrin.gif HAHAHAHA!


I see. I can relate to that, because that's what happened to me. I guess listening to a wide variety of music helps you as well, in the sense that even if technically you may not be as proficient, different influences can make you a drummer with a lot of range.

Yes, of course, they sky is the limit when it comes to instruments, but he definitely has made a lot of progress, with his age.
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post Dec 26 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 26 2011, 09:18 AM)
Guys Mesh heads or Mute pad? hmm.gif
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For...? Mesh heads. smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2011, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Dec 26 2011, 02:02 PM)
mesh all the way.

seriously no wonder some of u guys hate bentley so much.

first i ordered up a vision vsx tom 16x16 inch. after 6 months, they say they salah order, instead of 16x16, they ordered up an 18x16. so i ask them "eh? 18x16? so 18 inch diameter tom lah ni?"

and they say, nono, its still in 16, cuma US put length 1st then diameter. ohh so i thought, it is still 16x18, instead of 18x16.

but when the thing arrived at my local music shop, !@#$^%^$%, the supposedly 16 inch floor tom was an 18 inch! mak oi punya besar!  so i was right! it is 18x16! 18 diameter and 16 length! not the other way around.

guys, can a 18 inch floor tom sounds like 16 inch floor tom? i mean when doing the tuning, cuz i dont wanna wait another 6 months just to change the size sad.gif

oh and screw u bentley. screw u.
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Now you see wink.gif Well, yes it can. I've used two 18s (or was it two 16s? :/) as my floor toms simultaneously, and using different heads, and different tunings, you definitely can!

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 26 2011, 05:51 PM)
For reducing volume...  brows.gif
I see...wah 18x16floor tom...can become bass drum liao  laugh.gif tho I doubt that 18" FT can sound like 16.
I see Mesh heads eh?

@ALL: Know where can I get Mesh heads? Isaac do you sell them?  hmm.gif
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Well, if you're planning to take em out for gigs, you'd have to change the heads everytime lah smile.gif Yep, I can get them.

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post Dec 27 2011, 07:04 PM

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@5p3ak and @brokenbomb - Mesh heads from my supplier not in stock, have to wait till next year, they said, new prices too. :/

And mate, you want to sell that 16' head? Let me know biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 27 2011, 07:12 PM)
Damn why always year end no stock de!  sad.gif

Looks like I need to learn how to tune lorh...~.~ my floor tom keep ringing when I play my bass drum leh how?  icon_question.gif
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Put e Rings or O rings (depending on whether you're an Evans or Remo person, SAME THING) or moongel?
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 27 2011, 07:55 PM)
I see, but is there other way to get rid of them with out using these? ???  yawn.gif
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Hmm.. Put wallet on your batter? tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(musefanatic @ Dec 28 2011, 04:22 AM)
Is it okay to open drums shop at malaysia?(only drum things)
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Hmm.. You'll have to consider a lot of factors. For some reason, in Malaysia, "exclusive" distributorship is a big thing.

But first:

There is no doubt that there is demand nowadays, for a "drum" shop, but whether it'll do well, remains to be seen.

You'll probably need the big brands, for the cymbals, which means getting a dealership (which costs a lot) from places like Yamaha (Sabian) and Bentley (Zildjian) and so on, so forth. I don't think smaller brands like UFIP or TRX and even Istanbul or Soultone would do too well at first, perhaps you could bring it in later on.

Drumset brands are also mostly taken up by "exclusive" distributors as well. So, you might want to look into opening up your shop for used sets as well.

Unless, you want to make this shop an exclusive shop, that caters to pros only? But then you wouldn't probably do too well.

I would love to see Battlefield, SJC, UFIP, Brady, Axis and Trick on Malaysian soil someday smile.gif

QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Dec 28 2011, 08:31 AM)
isaacmiranda - u want it? ok ah. how much u offer? haha. never used be4. sayang ja.

namqul - strata gold finish. the same exact one to my vision. but inside the shell, they use the new vision badge..haha. I hope they still using the 6/8 formula. if not. my floor tom become 6 ply la ni.

muckstefan - if there is a demand. y not  tongue.gif
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Which head is it? smile.gif



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post Dec 29 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Dec 28 2011, 11:32 PM)
isaac - evans g2 clear smile.gif
muckstefan - ha adaka?? haha. punya smart. i love bosphorus. thick, yet hand hammered. haha. the gold series la. hehe.
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Not really my thing la. :/ On my floor, I like the Hydraulics. For my rack toms, G2 nice biggrin.gif Got lovely ringing tone. For my 14' floor, I use G2 laaa. But 16, I like that dampened sound. smile.gif


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post Dec 30 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 29 2011, 07:06 PM)
BTW Isaac no year End Sale from you ah?
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Not this year biggrin.gif HAHAHAHA! Last year got, this year too busy :/


Anyway, I set up and tuned drums for one of my clients today (my school tongue.gif).

Basically, they ordered two sets of the Ludwig Element kit with Evans heads, and I threw in some cymbals and Gibraltar hardware, cause it was quite a big order, with a lot of other audio equipment including amps and mics, etc.

So, I set up one of the kits today, and mixed it in with the previous set (Pearl Forum sad.gif )

And now the entire kit goes like this. Its not the best stuff, but for a school, I have to admit its already pretty okay lah. FOR A SCHOOL. xD

Cymbals: Stagg EXK 14' hi hats, Pearl 14' hi-hats (side hats biggrin.gif ), Stagg EXK 20' ride , Pearl 18' crash ride, Meinl HCS 12' china, Stagg EXK 16' crash, Meinl HCS 16' crash.

Drums (from left to right): Pearl Forum 16' floor, Pearl Forum 14 x 6.5 steel snare, Ludwig Element 14 x 6.5 snare, Element 10' tom, Element 12' tom, Element 22' bass drum, Element 13' floor tom, Element 16' floor tom.

The Element toms are outfitted with Evans Hydraulics (its durable, will last long, and super easy to tune, making crap drums sound decent biggrin.gif), the bass drum has a coated EMAD (again, very durable, and doesn't ring, with a consistent, if not dynamic tone - perfect for hard rock and metal, actually), and the snare has a Power Centre Reverse Dot, coated (which when matched with a relatively deep snare like this, gives a very fat sound).

Pictures soon, maybe. HEHEHEHE.


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post Dec 31 2011, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 30 2011, 08:40 PM)
Aww man...haizz Mesh heads pun no stock...I guess every 1 getting ready for 2012  cry.gif
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I might be able to get bass drum mute. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(muckstefan @ Dec 30 2011, 10:44 PM)
what do you think about evans hydraulics on a snare drum? i was thinking bout changing the batter head to replace the remo black-x i have on it...i just felt that it's just the wrong head for my snare.tried everything tuning-wise,my snare still rings like s**t and not to mention the rattle that it caused on the wires...gosh..
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No way bro. Not at all. Hydraulics for toms, yes, not for your snare. AT ALL. xD
Try Onyx, if you want a dark sound, perhaps? Double ply.

Anyway, have you tried putting rings on your head for the overtones? And get ProSound snare wires, or something tight?


Added on December 31, 2011, 4:30 pmSorry for the horrible handphone pictures, but yeah. This is the school kit that I was talking about a few posts earlier that I set up yesterday. Playing at my school next year is going to be a blast! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Dec 31 2011, 08:21 PM)
Cool~ My bass drum is the one that needs to be tamed tongue.gif

Anyways, why 2 16" FT  hmm.gif  Isit one of them 16x14?
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One 16' floor tom on the left, one 13' and 16' floor on the right respectively biggrin.gif

QUOTE(muckstefan @ Dec 31 2011, 08:39 PM)
yeah tried muffling already,but im opting for a change of head instead and see where it takes me to..i just like to play open n oyeah,gotta love that warm,dark sounding snare.hehe.how bout evans genera dry or HD dry?saw some review and it seems that they have some kind of holes and muffler built underneath to control the ring.im using a mapex mpx birch 13x6 btw. biggrin.gif

btw is evans onyx similar to remo black suede emperor?

that's the kit for your school?damn..the kit for my residential college doesn't even comes close! ohmy.gif
The HD perhaps? smile.gif It sounds alright. I've never played the Black Suede Emperor before, so I wouldn't know, but I have played the Onyx before, and its alright lah.

Yes, that's my school's new kit biggrin.gif


QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 03:02 PM)
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my new baby. (without cymbals)

any recommendation on 3pack cymbals set suitable for rock/metal and not expensive ?
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Holy fudge bro biggrin.gif Congratulations xD HAHAHAHA!

Hmm... What do you mean by not expensive? :/ I could recommend the Sabian XS20 set, about 2k, which is pretty much midpriced la biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 03:27 PM)
2K is wah lau weh !
what about under 1.2K ? something affordable, yet good enough for "beginning intermediate"
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Meinl MCS? smile.gif About RM900 below, better than the EXK IMO. Or for around RM1.3 retail, Paiste PST5. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 03:46 PM)
thanks isaac. muah muah
MCS eh? not bad wor. you think it sounds good enough for recording?

my other shortlist is Stagg DH Brilliant, around RM1250, but have to order from www.mmo.net.my. is that reputable seller? does anyone know?
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I can get for you Stagg from Ultimate Music Bro smile.gif
Recording.. well depends lah. Of course it won't be as nice as if you used high end stuff... but can jalan lah I guess. :/ I've seen a local drummer on TV using ZHT, and personally I think ZHT is horrible, so MCS is better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 04:23 PM)
oh cool. cash only? PM me price for DH brilliant 3 piece and also MCS 3 piece. muah muah

yesterday i go to ultimate music and ask their horrible customer service, they say they don't sell cymbals pack. maybe they lazy to answer or check
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DH Brilliant, I don't have the pack as well, cause I get it from UM. xD go to their website, see what's in stock and what you want., and let me know.
MCS, not sure if in stock, but regular price RM1000.


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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 1 2012, 04:24 PM)
Congratz...but why is the toms mounted on the bass drum?  hmm.gif
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Why not? :/


QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 04:32 PM)
Gretsch Catalina Maple 6 piece. got it from JSMusic. 30% discount - RM26xx good deal leh. They have another one 5 piece, but smaller kick drum.

Got it for house decoration..... no lah, for my upcoming recording/rehearsal studio.
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That'll be a kickass studio then. What else have you got for it? I wanna come biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 1 2012, 05:14 PM)
oh, not kickass la, my studio cheap2 one. soundproof also cheap2 one. two cheap2 solid state amps, 1 small hartke amp. now just missing PA and cymbals. focus more on recording, mainly for metal bands. cannot make money lor, for passion. 
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Hmm... Still, sometime or other can I come around and take a look? biggrin.gif Maybe record drums tongue.gif HAHAHAHA!
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Your gear list sounds interesting mate biggrin.gif Working on a project now; if anything, I'll let you know! I LIKE YOUR SYNTHS.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 1 2012, 08:32 PM)
Because it is easier to reach to the rack toms and you can position the rack toms to a more comfortable angle. I.e. rack toms mounted on a stand will let you put the rack toms wherever you want them to be, and IMO it also does clean up the looks of the kit.  rclxms.gif
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I disagree mate smile.gif Different drummers use different setups lah, true, but you also have to recognize that there is a different tone and pitch in them smile.gif


QUOTE(zacharyseng @ Jan 1 2012, 10:30 PM)
last time i bought my drumset for a rip-off price  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(zacharyseng @ Jan 1 2012, 10:39 PM)
pearl target for rm2500 without cymbals..
i ordered from my music school he said he give me "cheap price" 
NEVER SHOULD'VE TRUSTED HIM  vmad.gif
if not i already with a nice used drum
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I pity you mate :/ I usually don't buy or deal for music schools cause of that very reason.



Anyway guys, I'm thinking of selling my Ludwig Epic; used for only one recording session, and its been stored away (except for the bass drum, that I pull out once in a while for gigs) ever since.

If anyone is interested, let me know.
I'll need to find out the price of the drums I want to get before deciding. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 2 2012, 02:04 PM)
Means you like them to be on the bass drum?  hmm.gif
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I don't understand. xD But like at smaller gigs where there isn't a house kit (or the house kit sucks) I'll usually just bring my bass drum and my snare drum biggrin.gif I'm used to playing with that set up already, or with a floor tom and a kick as well as a snare. Minimalist lah. BUT OF COURSE MORE IS BETTER. MOAR.

QUOTE(zacharyseng @ Jan 2 2012, 04:01 PM)
hey guys, you guys know where to buy snare drum head, maybe i can "un-terrible" my snare a bit.

recommend me the brand, model and buy from who icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I'll recommend you the Evans Power Centre Reverse Dot head. RM58, buy from me. xD

QUOTE(muckstefan @ Jan 2 2012, 04:16 PM)
yeah agree. thumbup.gif
tell us if you already decide.brows.gif
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I kinda decided liao. HAHAHAHA! If you want, come and tell me lah. No rush though.
But I might be moving back to my old place and converting my room into a semi-studio, but I'll only have space for a small kit, so either ways I think I ought to sell this baby off lah.


So, here goes. Ludwig Epic (can configure to be three rack toms and one floor tom or two rack toms and two floor toms) Natural Blackburst Lacquer finish.
I'm putting this up for you guys first x) HAHAHAHA!

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and has anyone shipped in a kit from the US before? Snare drums, yes, but this time, I wanna get a kit. xD Shipping prices, anyone? For a 20' bass kick.

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