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 Neocaridina Shrimp, cherry, fire red, yellow, snow....etc

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TSciohbu
post Feb 10 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 10 2012, 09:21 PM)
Yes.... I know how to differenciate..  Hahahhahahaha biggrin.gif
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teach me !! biggrin.gif hahaa.. is it really like Rhabdocoela ? how bout the size ?
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QUOTE(TianYin86 @ Feb 10 2012, 09:14 PM)
Ya.. Got 2 dead shrimp with full of planaria.. Sigh... Maybe the shop use this kind of tactic to increase sales? At first i don't plan to buy one.. I see until really wanna cry... Then only decide to take all of the fire red out.. Kakakakaka....
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I thought a good way to remove the planaria is to put the shrimp and some small fish like guppy or tetras for few days to remove the planaria from the shrimp before moving the shrimp to the shrimp tank... but most probably the shrimp will be in shock after that... rclxub.gif
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post Feb 10 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 10 2012, 09:22 PM)
teach me !!  biggrin.gif hahaa.. is it really like Rhabdocoela ? how bout the size ?
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Really can see its head.. Can see the triangle one.. U can go midvalley pet shop n see loh.. Hahaha


Added on February 10, 2012, 11:09 pm
QUOTE(naoki666 @ Feb 10 2012, 10:25 PM)
I thought a good way to remove the planaria is to put the shrimp and some small fish like guppy or tetras for few days to remove the planaria from the shrimp before moving the shrimp to the shrimp tank... but most probably the shrimp will be in shock after that...  rclxub.gif
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U can find the solution in utube. Got tutorial in there.. Ppl use bottle cut cut cut.. Sorry ar.. I donno how to explain how they cut.. N make hole for planaria go in.. Inside have fresh meat to attract planaria..

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post Feb 12 2012, 02:55 AM

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saw on youtube, that if you cut planaria into multiple pieces, each and evry part of the cut parts will become an individual planaria?
wtf? or did i just watched some weird gameshow vid with weird creatures being cut in half and that creature is not planaria?

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post Feb 12 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Feb 12 2012, 02:55 AM)
saw on youtube, that if you cut planaria into multiple pieces, each and evry part of the cut parts will become an individual planaria?
wtf? or did i just watched some weird gameshow vid with weird creatures being cut in half and that creature is not planaria?

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ya, it's planaria. that's why if your tank got planaria. you cannot cut it or squeeze it. later it will multiply more.. that's y we need to catch them.
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post Feb 12 2012, 06:59 PM

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wah my little sifu just become the expert in this thread!! amazing. sis, later i wanna keep shrimp.. don't want to donate or guide me kah? hehehe. i will setup the tank this month. maybe next month will need shrimps and some fishes.hehe. need ur guidance for the shrimp one. please help yah...smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:46 AM

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So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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post Feb 13 2012, 08:25 AM

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no-planaria powder. NA selling it at about Rm40 per package.
i just went to Alive-aquarium last sunday. Their planaria is about 1cm long and still the owner ignore them. Lol ~ Kesian those shrimps and ppl that actually brought them.
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post Feb 13 2012, 10:10 AM

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1cm long $#!$%!@#! thats actually bigger than some young shrimp.. habis....

i think they dun even know that they are.. lolx

p/s: spotted one pregnant fire red this morning biggrin.gif pics later ya
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post Feb 13 2012, 10:21 AM

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It is really very very long ~!
damn alot moving around. and even more over dead shrimp body !

ciohbu:
did you test your water ph?
i just brought a ph pen yesterday. Tested result was ph5.7 on 3feet, ph7.1 on 2feet.
Any idea how much of salt i should add to 3feet to bring it up to ph6.0?
and what i have to put to lower ph7.1 to ph6.3 ?
Thanks ~
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post Feb 13 2012, 10:46 AM

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how much u buy the ph pen weijie?

do we need manually remove planaria from them?I found some white thing on some of their head...look like planaria for me.I google it, quite lot ppl using planaria to kill them...
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post Feb 13 2012, 10:56 AM

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i brought it at Rm100 from another forum.
It is a digital ph pen, very easy to use and handle.
Claim to be maintenance free.

it is impossible for you to catch them one by one bare handed.
Use no-planaria powder to kill them. in my experience, 3 times dosage would clear up the whole population. But the powder is sold in quite huge package, normally is about RM40, enough for use for centuries.
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post Feb 13 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Feb 13 2012, 08:25 AM)
no-planaria powder. NA selling it at about Rm40 per package.
i just went to Alive-aquarium last sunday. Their planaria is about 1cm long and still the owner ignore them. Lol ~ Kesian those shrimps and ppl that actually brought them.
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Ya.. memang kesian them.. and i am the kesian customer also.. i still bought fire red that have planaria inside the tank... hahahaha.... coz wanna save them from the kanasai tank...

last time i bought CRS from lelong (Aquashop), the seller tank also have planaria.. then i inform the seller... the seller macam don't care so much and just ask me put the CRS without taking the planaria in.. very irresponsible seller la...

very sad when see planaria eat the shrimp while the shrimp is still swimming around... then later die cry.gif


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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 12:46 AM)
So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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Maybe you can try this. but i am not sure whether you can catch them all or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saU7S2ybskw

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post Feb 13 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 12:46 AM)
So can i know what is the best way to kill planaria without harming my shrimp?
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No-planaria if u can get it smile.gif

if no u can try this:

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Panacur and Flubenol are medicaments used for de-worming cats, dogs and other pets.

While Flubenol uses as active agent ‘flubendazol’, Panacur uses ‘febendazol’. The components will destroy cell structure of planaria and let them starve after a few days. The drugs are available as powder, pills and liquids. Powder and pills must be dissolved completely in warm water before adding to the tank.

Here is a step by step guide using Panacur:

1) Try to catch as lot of planaria as possible with a planaria trap and remove them from the tank. Remove snails before using Panacur, also.
2) Do your weekly water change (20-30%) and remove as much detritus (=biological waste) as you can.
3) Add the medicament. Prefer to do under-dosing more than overdosing! One pill Panacur KH 250 (with 250 mg Fenbendazol) is sufficient for 432 liters. Check out the table below and only calculate with the nett water volume of your tank!
4) After 5 days change 30-50% water and repeat the treatment and dose Panacur second time.
5) After 5 days, do another water change (30-50%) and filter with carbon to extract the leftover of medicament.


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QUOTE(weijie @ Feb 13 2012, 10:21 AM)
It is really very very long ~!
damn alot moving around. and even more over dead shrimp body !

ciohbu:
did you test your water ph?
i just brought a ph pen yesterday. Tested result was ph5.7 on 3feet, ph7.1 on 2feet.
Any idea how much of salt i should add to 3feet to bring it up to ph6.0?
and what i have to put to lower ph7.1 to ph6.3 ?
yo weijie
hmmm, to raise ph i think better use air pump smile.gif coral can do that but it will increase ur GH pula > <

to lower ph, try to use peat.. i think eheim got
if no u can try "daun ketapang" or almond leaves or black water, ppl like to use them with betta one... but i dun think u will like the color of water after that.. hahaa

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post Feb 13 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Feb 13 2012, 10:46 AM)

how much u buy the ph pen weijie?

do we need manually remove planaria from them?I found some white thing on some of their head...look like planaria for me.I google it, quite lot ppl using planaria to kill them...
they are not planaria, but are one type of parasite, they just "tumpang" on shrimp head

try compare with the video



i always give them a salt water bath (aquarium salt + water) for around 10sec.. specially newly bought shrimp before putting them in my tank biggrin.gif those parasite will just fall down

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post Feb 13 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(ciohbu @ Feb 13 2012, 05:58 PM)
they are not planaria, but are one type of parasite, they just "tumpang" on shrimp head

try compare with the video



i always give them a salt water bath (aquarium salt + water) for around 10sec.. specially newly bought shrimp before putting them in my tank biggrin.gif those parasite will just fall down
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Ya, my fire red got it also.. Sometimes i just put some salt into my tank..
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hi to all sifu ut there,

i just bought 2 guppy and 5 tetra.

i heard shrimp also can added inside, and they help to clean up too?

may i ask which shrimp does that ?
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Now i so confuse whether mine is planaria or the parasite. Will take the picture and share with you all later.
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post Feb 16 2012, 07:58 AM

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sharing a post from UK

his shrimp population (£300-400 worth of livestock) got wide off after adding some new plants, found it was some poisoning, so pls read thru ya

i am not sure where malaysia lfs import their plants ... might be from singapore too..

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the reason are:
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I can confirm the following information has been provided by the farms in Singapore who supply plants to the UK market. This information has been consulted on with respected persons in the UK industry.

Phytosanitary certification requires the plants to be free of pests and disease prior to export to the receiving country. The methods applied are as follows – information supplied per farm:

Our premium plants are dipped in BUPROFEZIN (0.01%) & TRICHLORFON (0.08%) for the duration 120 minutes

Our primary supplier for standard plants dip in IMIDACLOPRID 18.3% V/V (0.005%) for 45 minutes

Our second supplier for standard plant range dip in IMIDACLOPRID 18.3% V/V (0.005%) for 60 minutes

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TRICHLORFON <http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC33346>
Chlorophos insecticides are highly toxic organophosphate insecticides and cause damage to the nervous system ("anti-cholinesterase compounds"), so you would expect to see shrimp "staggering" about before dying. They are non-systemic, so shouldn't end up in the plant.

BUPROFEZIN It is an "Insect Growth Regulator", which means that it would stop crustaceans shedding their skins (it interrupts chitin synthesis), so it could cause death in the longer term.

IMIDACLOPRID, is a systemic, neonicotinoid insecticide and would remain in the plant for some time. Neonicotonoids are suspected of causing a lot of the decline of insect biodiversity in Europe and the USA, and a really not the sort of compound you would want anywhere near your shrimps.

IMIDACLOPRID has low toxicity to fish, but is highly toxic to crustaceans, in conc. as low as 1 ppb for Mysis shrimp. "Products containing imidacloprid may be very toxic to aquatic invertebrates." "The half-life in water is much greater than 31 days at pH 5, 7 and 9". from Kidd & James (1991) The Agrochemicals Handbook, Third Edition. Royal Society of Chemistry Information Services, Cambridge, UK.


precaution if u adding new plants

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Our recommendation will be that all plants from ANY supplier should be quarantined in Alkaline water for a minimum of 2 hours to 48 hours, then finally rinsed in tap water prior to addition to any tank with livestock present. Please note - we say a MINIMUM of 2 hours and suggest that 48 hours be better... don't forget to perform water changes when appropriate.

Alkaline water can be easily made using caustic soda or hydrogen peroxide mixed with water until the pH reaches 8.5. Remember to wash your plants in tap water as a final preparation before they go in your tank.


http://www.plantedtanks.co.uk/plants-and-pesticides-17-w.asp
http://www.ukaps.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19481
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another great pic on bacteria infection

look like a worm right ? its not tongue.gif

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http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/shrimp-o...p-help-pic.html

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