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James831
post Oct 20 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 01:28 PM)
just should just buy some A2A missile for their jet fighter.
currently they have none after a quick search in all trade register in UN and SIPRI. doh.gif
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it like have a HK416 without bullet.
maybe they have BUY THE JET 1ST, ARMING IT LATER policy(better have something then nothing at all). similar with what TLDM do with KEDAH CLASS.
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post Oct 20 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 20 2012, 01:38 PM)
it like have a HK416 without bullet.
maybe they have BUY THE JET 1ST, ARMING IT LATER policy(better have something then nothing at all). similar with what TLDM do with KEDAH CLASS.
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How many years edi with their sukhoi.
at least buy 50 missile lar. instead of buying MBT, SPH or SUB.

Kedah class will have to wait for MLU. too bad.
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post Oct 20 2012, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 01:40 PM)
How many years edi with their sukhoi.
at least buy 50 missile lar. instead of buying MBT, SPH or SUB.

Kedah class will have to wait for MLU. too bad.
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What mlu? What about brahmos missiles?
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post Oct 20 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 20 2012, 02:44 PM)
What mlu? What about brahmos missiles?
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Mid life upgrade..
Brahmos is unlikely to be equip in the Kedah class.
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post Oct 21 2012, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 02:28 PM)
just should just buy some A2A missile for their jet fighter.
currently they have none after a quick search in all trade register in UN and SIPRI. doh.gif
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still good enough for airshow and to show the irian who's still the boss...

the issue is not new btw.a couple years back they also got this.claimed it was done by israel summore

btw brunei already move to multicam?
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post Oct 21 2012, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 10:45 PM)
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 20 2012, 01:06 AM)
indonesia newspaper.
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can u give sosej?

never read about that, otherwise u just put 'fitna' here

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post Oct 21 2012, 07:56 AM

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post Oct 21 2012, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(hantu.laut @ Oct 21 2012, 07:55 AM)
can u give sosej?

never read about that, otherwise u just put 'fitna' here
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I am not here not to fitna anybody ok. As you know anybody can print and sell news paper in Indonesia.
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post Oct 21 2012, 10:18 AM

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AFAIK RBAF has moved to pixelised camouflage.

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 21 2012, 12:52 AM)
still good enough for airshow and to show the irian who's still the boss...

the issue is not new btw.a couple years back they also got this.claimed it was done by israel summore

btw brunei already move to multicam?
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post Oct 21 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 11:12 PM)
jet fighter can be undetected when they fly on very low altitude which is very dangerous.
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With terrain following radar, most of the risk is taken away. But until M'sia has it own geo-mapping satellite network we'd never be able to match Europe's or US jets in terrain masking. I've heard those jets can fly at 10m with no worries at all.


QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 20 2012, 01:38 PM)
it like have a HK416 without bullet.
maybe they have BUY THE JET 1ST, ARMING IT LATER policy(better have something then nothing at all). similar with what TLDM do with KEDAH CLASS.
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Missiles have lifespans too. Buying them now means needing to either shoot 'em or throw them away within the next decade.

I rather that money go into other divisions of the armed forces.
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post Oct 22 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Oct 21 2012, 03:22 PM)
With terrain following radar, most of the risk is taken away. But until M'sia has it own geo-mapping satellite network we'd never be able to match Europe's or US jets in terrain masking. I've heard those jets can fly at 10m with no worries at all.
Missiles have lifespans too. Buying them now means needing to either shoot 'em or throw them away within the next decade.

I rather that money go into other divisions of the armed forces.
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Yes jet can fly that low altitude but there is always a risk a very big 1.
which is y most pilot wont risk fly that low even with the help of the latest technology.

As for missile you gotta to have a decent amount of missile to ensure you are combat ready all times.
Missile will not seat idle in the store at all time; it will be used for live training as well. to ensure the crew skill is not rusty when needed.

for kedah class most of it budget is gone into reviving the itself. that a very bad news for us.
will have to wait his MLU. some said it will piggy back SGPV for arming.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 03:03 PM)
Mid life upgrade..
Brahmos is unlikely to be equip in the Kedah class.
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I've been under B deck of Kedah class even down under the A gun deck (A deck is it?) by looking at the space it will not have an ample space to store a VL Brahmos.

Aster on the other hand would be great kekekekek! brows.gif
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post Oct 22 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 22 2012, 01:18 PM)
I've been under B deck of Kedah class even down under the A gun deck (A deck is it?) by looking at the space it will not have an ample space to store a VL Brahmos.

Aster on the other hand would be great kekekekek!  brows.gif
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Aster 15? hmm.gif
would love to have aster 30 but expensive.

adding Naval Strike Missile would be gooding

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 22 2012, 01:24 PM)
Aster 15? hmm.gif
would love to have aster 30 but expensive.

adding Naval Strike Missile would be gooding
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NSM is gooding, but wont be put at B deck, rather at the back!


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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 21 2012, 12:52 AM)
still good enough for airshow and to show the irian who's still the boss...

the issue is not new btw.a couple years back they also got this.claimed it was done by israel summore

btw brunei already move to multicam?
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It can still drop dumb bomb and Indonesia have plenty of locally produce Mk 82. Last i heard, they succesfully integrated the Mk 82 into the SU-30.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Oct 22 2012, 02:54 PM)
It can still drop dumb bomb and Indonesia have plenty of locally produce Mk 82. Last i heard, they succesfully integrated the Mk 82 into the SU-30.
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so now SU-30 become their CAS fighter?
should at least equip it A2A missile otherwise it just for show only.
btw I suspect their radar needed to be upgraded b4 they can use A2A missile. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Oct 22 2012, 02:54 PM)
It can still drop dumb bomb and Indonesia have plenty of locally produce Mk 82. Last i heard, they succesfully integrated the Mk 82 into the SU-30.
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can American bomb be modified to be use with Russian fighter without any US authorization
or I miss it in DSCA announcement that allowed Indo to do so?

Word from my pal in 18 sqn, for TUDM to dispose bolt also needed a writing acknowledgement from the US congress!

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2012, 01:37 AM)
can American bomb be modified to be use with Russian fighter without any US authorization
or I miss it in DSCA announcement that allowed Indo to do so?

Word from my pal in 18 sqn, for TUDM to dispose bolt also needed a writing acknowledgement from the US congress!
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wtf, if we wanna change any missile or bomb to be modified we bought from them we must have permission?
better malaysia make bomb and missile instead

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