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apisfires
post Oct 19 2012, 05:40 PM

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tell more please, i love this thread...
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 19 2012, 02:34 PM)
Is there any missile that lock on the plane without the knowledge of the pilot?
That day 2 F15 indonesia jets were locked on. But on radar they see noting at all. Maybe F22 or F35
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 19 2012, 03:04 PM)
i think F16 kua
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post Oct 19 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 10:45 PM)
Where you heard of these? biggrin.gif
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can you give fighter picture?
i google it all about lenovo? hmm.gif

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post Oct 19 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 10:55 PM)
can you give fighter picture?
i google it all about lenovo?  hmm.gif
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I just joking only.
S-400 is not jet fighter but long range SAMs.
btw we dun have it. laugh.gif
apisfires
post Oct 19 2012, 10:59 PM

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ceh..... cool2.gif
so malaysia still not have ability to shoot down any powerful fighter jet yet?

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post Oct 19 2012, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 10:59 PM)
ceh.....  cool2.gif
so malaysia still not have ability to shoot down any powerful fighter jet yet?
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could you define powerful fighter jet?

Malaysia have sufficient ability to shoot down jet fighter as long as we can detect it.
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 11:01 PM)
could you define powerful fighter jet?

Malaysia have sufficient ability to shoot down jet fighter as long as we can detect it.
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so we need more powerful radar only right to coop with our fighter jet?
powerful fighter jet i know like B-2 and Super Hornet, my military knowledge not much...
i watch movie, fighter jet can be undetected by radar if flying very low? that myth or truth?
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 11:06 PM)
so we need more powerful radar only right to coop with our fighter jet?
powerful fighter jet i know like B-2 and Super Hornet, my military knowledge not much...
i watch movie, fighter jet can be undetected by radar if flying very low? that myth or truth?
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you jet fighter radar?
Our SU-30MKM already have a very powerful radar.
perhaps 2nd batch MKM would get an even more powerful radar.

jet fighter can be undetected when they fly on very low altitude which is very dangerous.
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 11:06 PM)
so we need more powerful radar only right to coop with our fighter jet?
powerful fighter jet i know like B-2 and Super Hornet, my military knowledge not much...
i watch movie, fighter jet can be undetected by radar if flying very low? that myth or truth?
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yep quite right, but that can be solved with Gap Filler radar.
the radar focused more in filling where normal radar could not cover esp in the lower airspace (under normal radar scan) and between mountain ridge or valley.

but like yinchet said, it is dangerous for jets to fly under radar cover as Malaysian have many mountain and highland that could be tough to maneuver in high speeds.

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apis... COYG!!!!!

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QUOTE(haji_george @ Oct 4 2012, 10:41 AM)
work keliq ckp our Exocet missile tak power berbanding harpoon.. futhermore dia ckp underwater launch exocet from scoprene sama version mcm fast attack craft... malas nak argue sbb abg dia navy.
tat y dia exsyen saja... tp rasa mcm tak betul saja...

anyone here got answer.
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The exocet that we have is block 2 version which still use solid fuel rocket engine. So it won't go very far. publicized range is 70km compared to harpoon's 130km and otomat 180km. but harpoon and otomat use turbojet engine.

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 19 2012, 02:34 PM)
Is there any missile that lock on the plane without the knowledge of the pilot?
That day 2 F15 indonesia jets were locked on. But on radar they see noting at all. Maybe F22 or F35
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Certain fighters like Mig-21 have very small frontal aspect. during cope India, US F-15 found out they couldn't detect India upgraded MIG-21 on approach until they are well within range of the Mig's R-77. yes India MIG-21 can launch the Adder. in fact, in the USAF threat list, India's upgraded MIG-21 rank higher then the MKI.

QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 11:06 PM)
so we need more powerful radar only right to coop with our fighter jet?
powerful fighter jet i know like B-2 and Super Hornet, my military knowledge not much...
i watch movie, fighter jet can be undetected by radar if flying very low? that myth or truth?
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We and singapore already have the most powerful airborne radar in this region. Our MKM can act as a mini-awacs if there's need.
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kesian Thailand always being forgotten.
Singapore -> Thailand -> Malaysia.
at least what i think in term of airborne radar.
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post Oct 19 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 11:12 PM)
you jet fighter radar?
Our SU-30MKM already have a very powerful radar.
perhaps 2nd batch MKM would get an even more powerful radar.

jet fighter can be undetected when they fly on very low altitude which is very dangerous.
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before this we ever have enemy who use this maneuver before on our air? i know some information like this very high security level...
my late uncle was army helicopter pilot before his pass away 3 years ago, his salary very gooding and my aunty got very high pencen, lucky who work as army pilot at TUDM...

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 19 2012, 11:21 PM)

yep quite right, but that can be solved with Gap Filler radar.
the radar focused more in filling where normal radar could not cover esp in the lower airspace (under normal radar scan) and between mountain ridge or valley.

but like yinchet said, it is dangerous for jets to fly under radar cover as Malaysian have many mountain and highland that could be tough to maneuver in high speeds.

btw!
apis... COYG!!!!!
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post Oct 20 2012, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 19 2012, 10:45 PM)
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indonesia newspaper.
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QUOTE(apisfires @ Oct 19 2012, 11:58 PM)
before this we ever have enemy who use this maneuver  before on our air? i know some information like this very high security level...
my late uncle was army helicopter pilot before his pass away 3 years ago, his salary very gooding and my aunty got very high pencen, lucky who work as army pilot at TUDM...
of course gooners  thumbup.gif
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There were a lot of fuss about Singapore enter in our airspace in parliament.
However the Singapore deny such allegation.
The were also a few rumors about some action in our airspace.
arteyu might share some with you. laugh.gif

QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 20 2012, 01:06 AM)
indonesia newspaper.
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I see. I'm not surprise they love to put funny news there and here.
Anyway there were no F-22 stations in our region. F-35 is still underdevelopment unlikely to seen 1 in our region as well.
There are no reason for Russia and india to test PAKFA to be in indonesia airspace.
The same for China.
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The Grand Finale: 22nd AARM Has Officially Closed      

TUE, 16 OCT 2012 - Yang Mulia, Brigadier General Dato Seri Pahlawan Haji Yussof bin Haji Abd Rahman, the Commander of Royal Brunei Land Forces (RBLF) and also as the Guest of Honour (GOH), has officially closed the 22nd AARM. Upon his arrival, the GOH was welcomed by Yang Mulia Lieutenant Colonel Mohammad Shafiee bin Haji Duraman, the Chairman of the 22nd AARM 2012.
Witnessing the 22nd Closing Ceremony were the other 9 ASEAN Chiefs of Army, who were the invited guests, ASEAN Defence Attachés/Advisers to Brunei Darussalam, as well as Royal Brunei Armed Forces’ Senior Officers. The closing ceremony took place at Gallery 1, Binturan Shooting Range, Penanjong Garrison.

Prior to the closing ceremony, the GOH and all distinguish guests were then taken to participate in the ASEAN Chiefs of Army Pistol and Carbine Novelty Shoot Competition for falling plates from a distance of 25 meters and 50 meters respectively, at Gallery 1. Six teams had participated during the match in which Team C emerged as the winner, consisting of Lieutenant Colonel Meas Sophearith (the Royal Cambodian Army); Major General Dedi Kusnadi (Indonesian Army); Brigadier General Dato’ Abd Samad bin Haji Yaakob (Malaysian Army); Colonel Steven Seng (Singapore Army) and Lieutenant General Narin Luckana (the Royal Thai Army).

The GOH together with the invited guests had also witnessed the Rifle Falling Plate Competition Final between the Indonesian Army and the Royal Thai Army. During the match, the Indonesian Army secured the first position with 21.30 seconds, while 1st runner up goes to the Royal Thai Army with 21.44 seconds.

Later on, the GOH and his ASEAN Chiefs of Army counterparts were invited to the grand stand to receive the general salute led by Yang Mulia Lieutenant Colonel Tarip bin Haji Karia, Parade Commander for the 22nd AARM.

The Indonesian Army, once again seized the 22nd AARM 2012 by winning most of the medals and trophies based on match categories, who also previously won the last AARM in Jakarta, Republic of Indonesia.

The results of the overall matches are as follow:

•    Carbine Overall Individual Championship - Sertu Habdi (Indonesian Army);
•    Machine Gun Overall Individual Championship - Serda Akbar (Indonesian Army);
•    Machine Gun Overall Team Championship - Indonesian Army;
•    Carbine Overall Team Championship - Indonesian Army;
•    Rifle Overall Individual Championship - Corporal Rodney Rizano (Philippine Army);
•    Rifle Overall Team Championship - Philippine Army;
•    Pistol Men and Ladies Overall Team Championship – Royal Thai Army;
•    Overall Individual Championship (Pistol Ladies) - MSG Rachel/Tzer Chin (Singapore Army);
•    Overall Individual Championship (Pistol Men) - 2WO Shaw Ming (Singapore Army)

The highlight of the closing ceremony was the Closing Declaration of the 22nd AARM by the GOH and lowering of AARM flag and followed by handing over of AARM flag from the Commander of RBLF to Commander-in-Chief of Myanmar Army, Lieutenant General Soe Win, who will be hosting the 23rd AARM 2013 in Myanmar.
To bless the ceremony, Doa was read by Yang Mulia Lieutenant Mohd Hishamuddin bin Haji Marzoki, the representative officer from the Royal Brunei Armed Forces Religious Department (JAMAAT RBAF).

Before leaving the GOH presented prizes to the winners in the ASEAN Chiefs of Army Pistol and Carbine Novelty Shoot Competition followed by a lunch session with all invited guests at the Gallery 1 Range Officer’s Mess.
Alhamdulillah, both 13th ASEAN Chiefs of Army Multilateral Meeting (13th ACAAM) and 2nd ASEAN Sergeant Major Annual Meeting (2nd ASMAM) also ended successfully yesterday, 15 October 2012 in the Sultanate. 
The Republic of the Union of Myanmar Army will host the next AARM, ACAAM and ASMAM in 2013.

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Wait, since when did the USMC had so many asians
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post Oct 20 2012, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 02:56 AM)
There were a lot of fuss about Singapore enter in our airspace in parliament.
However the Singapore deny such allegation.
The were also a few rumors about some action in our airspace.
arteyu might share some with you. laugh.gif
I see. I'm not surprise they love to put funny news there and here.
Anyway there were no F-22 stations in our region. F-35 is still underdevelopment unlikely to seen 1 in our region as well.
There are no reason for Russia and india to test PAKFA to be in indonesia airspace.
The same for China.
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Then who locked on them?
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post Oct 20 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Oct 20 2012, 12:51 PM)
Then who locked on them?
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there are few possibilities either Malaysia or Singapore have hidden long range SAMs. or their RWR is malfunction or just another BS story by tabloid.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 20 2012, 01:15 PM)
there are few possibilities either Malaysia or Singapore have hidden long range SAMs. or their RWR is malfunction or just another BS story by tabloid.
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very good way to increase defence budget.

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QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 20 2012, 01:24 PM)
very good way to increase defence budget.
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just should just buy some A2A missile for their jet fighter.
currently they have none after a quick search in all trade register in UN and SIPRI. doh.gif

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