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Im on learning the breeding, actually i also shocked when she want to breed..
So i just keep them together? Afraid the male will eating the baby..
Thx for ya reply!

hi guys, i'm a newbie here - 2 ques~

1-when my joey lily cry in her cage -should i calm her from outside or just sit next to her cage,

last 3 night it happen [2nd day wif me..] so i gently stroked on her and calm her down. it works, but im just curious-what exact things to do IF it happened again...i read that they cry coz calling for family, so i'm getting another female soon..

2-i bring her along in bonding pouch to office, when she wakes up should i gave her treat when she's in the pouch ? in the morning [at 6.30] already gave her fruit blend wif vegies.

can't take her out, since she's not totally bond with me.afraid she ran away lah..

no more DIY sleeping pouch seller in lyn. most of the existing seller seems not much active.

What u looking for actually?

no such thing...
the colour is due to tainting....
all wild gliders will come out yellowish
if u use coconut shell, or rarely wash ur sleeping pouch, they turn yellowish
if u clean properly all the time, they r always grey...

the male will never eat the baby..
sg are very different from others like rabbit... or hamster...
the male will babysit the babies..
when the mum go out to eat or play..
both of them need to be together..

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Added on February 10, 2012, 11:34 pm1. cry? u mean barking.? she's lonely.. play with her.. u should spend time and play with her.. if u want to bond with her fast, just take her out the cage and play with her in a glider-proof room..

2. wakes up u mean she's trying to get out or just moving, adjusting her position then go back to sleep...?
mine never wants to eat in the day.. u could give her some treats or fruits.. it's like midnite snack..


This post has been edited by bunnyrox7: Feb 10 2012, 11:35 PM

my customer been keeping sugar glider for few months. she never use coconut shell and always wash sleeping pouch.

The sugar glider eventually turned yellowish.

Fed daily with apples only.

Explain.



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This post has been edited by ix3Rukia: Feb 11 2012, 05:19 AM

[quote=ix3Rukia,Feb 11 2012, 05:16 AM]
my customer been keeping sugar glider for few months. she never use coconut shell and always wash sleeping pouch.

The sugar glider eventually turned yellowish.

Fed daily with apples only.

Explain.


color debate nice.........hehehe

Dear:ix3rukia

please advice ur customer to look for a proper diet than rather worrying about their color coz

do you know that lack of diet can also cause their color to change

and just imagine us(human being) eats apple for the rest of our life will we be able to walk straight or even last that long

we can`t provide a 100% guarantee diet to them but a 90% closest to it will be better then nothing.....

the answer to the question above is WHAT not WHY........

and last but not least pls act quick on their diet,u don`t want them to have HLP in the future

This post has been edited by NazTS: Feb 11 2012, 05:45 PM

looking for sleeping pouch

poor glider, pls ask your fren to provide better diet.

as for the colour, understand that in the US there are many variation.
Mosiac, leucistic, albino, black beauty, etc....
in fact, in Malaysia, we have them too...but we do not separate the colouration that much
i call my gliders standard grey, but the actual fact is that 2 of my breeding pair actually produces black beauty

i'm still sticking to my opinion that the yellowish colouration is due to tainting
if you study glider behaviour, you will know that gliders actually mark their partners too
so even if u clean everything, the males might mark them
that can also contribute to the yellowish taint

anyhow, that is my opinion
if you beg to differ then by all means, go ahead

cheers!

wah..thread v17 already a?..

keep up..
i got 10 sg now..weeee...

[quote=NazTS,Feb 11 2012, 02:46 PM]
[quote=ix3Rukia,Feb 11 2012, 05:16 AM]
my customer been keeping sugar glider for few months. she never use coconut shell and always wash sleeping pouch.

The sugar glider eventually turned yellowish.

Fed daily with apples only.

Explain.
color debate nice.........hehehe

Dear:ix3rukia

please advice ur customer to look for a proper diet than rather worrying about their color coz

do you know that lack of diet can also cause their color to change

and just imagine us(human being) eats apple for the rest of our life will we be able to walk straight or even last that long

we can`t provide a 100% guarantee diet to them but a 90% closest to it will be better then nothing.....

the answer to the question above is WHAT not WHY........

and last but not least pls act quick on their diet,u don`t want them to have HLP in the future

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customer give apple , hpw , cat food , mealworm. How come still turn yellow colour?

@jit Hmm my customer have only 1 female with her , so i dont think marking will happen. Her sg fur just randomly turned yellowish slowly in 3 weeks D:

cool, your customer have a yellow glider then!

Diet does play a role, but doesn't mean that's the only reason. Genetics is tricky to figure out especially when there is no record on the parents/grandparents n so on.

Miko was never grey but she never got much yellower than when she first came at 7 months. Billie is a black beauty, though the fur on her face did turn slightly yellowish, the majority still remains grey. Dakota stayed grey for more than a year, but now I'm not sure if she turned yellow or not as I have not received any updates.

I've seen gliders kept in not very clean conditions housed with coconut shells for years yet some still remain a beautiful grey.

As for what I think, love your glider, feed it, care for it well and it will look beautiful no matter what the colour is.

Oh and yes, female gliders can mark. Believe me they can really mark! Not all female gliders but Billie is a marking-whore. She will mark from my shoulder all the way to my palm and other places as well if she gets the chance. It is pungent, strong and kind of a translucent brownish grey fluid. It's pretty grosss........

Washing sleeping pouches too often can cause excessive marking as well.

I usually wash every week to 2 weeks depending on the glider. Billie keeps her pouch super clean so every 2 weeks.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Feb 12 2012, 02:04 PM

talking about marking...
my rockstar marks on my baju all the time!!!
and its really pungent...often near my shoulder/neck area...bloody smells
r they like human...when they drink more water...they will hv a less smellier marking?

I had 1 female too, which became a bit yellowish until I put a stop to it.

Gliders are messy eaters, the yellow is from the HPW & apples. Their skin get rubbed against the HPW plate/bowl which stains their skin. Although they clean/groom themselves well but it can't be 100% perfect.

Same goes to the apples, when my glider carry the apple around, it rubbed against her skin especially the belly. After some time, those stain will grow yellowish.

Urine too, she peed and then jump/run/dropped all over her own pee. Thus staining her skin again. After some time running around she gets tired, fell asleep & the stain dries on her skin. Making it harder to clean when she finally wakes up & start cleaning herself.

Btw, add more papayas to the fruit diet. It'll save the gliders from HLP. And reduce the mealworms & catfood, it'll prevent the glider from getting obese.


This post has been edited by NightHeart: Feb 12 2012, 10:20 PM

wonder if a obese glider can fly xD !

Anyways , thanks for this! I remember hpw can be the culprit of the yellowish stains. my bad Dx

yup - she bark a bit.
now spending more n more time wif her..
play around wif me till 1/2am [if not working, lagi lame lah..]

i talk a lot with her.she sometimes let me cuddle her, but sometimes she nipping on me..aiyoo


one day.i let her sleep on me (so that she recognize my scent~ [but she in the pouch, with the zipper open] when i woke up, she already exploring my room..feel like jantung nak explode tengok she on her own, on the floor! thank god she don't hesitate to get back in pouch..
[but not to climb on me.. ]

in the morning 6 to 11am/12pm/1 pm - she's not totally asleep.[maybe because i'm moving and shifting a lot~] so i feed her like fruits/pallet..and some water - after she satisfied then only tido~..if not, she keep on trying to get out of the pouch and stare me with those big round eye, is this normal ?



but this morning,when i try to get her inside the bonding pouch, she walk past it, went up my right hand and to my back - the went down through the left hand straight inside the pouch ..

got me worried at first - if she jump away, but surprisingly not.

any advice are so welcome - still newbie, learning from 'senpai' on thiz matter like you guys here..
theories n practical are not the same..easy to read and learn pretty challenging to make it happen..but for my love to Lilly, i'll do all that i can..



This post has been edited by xpresso143: Feb 13 2012, 05:20 PM

Well, the marking musk is not pee, so it may or may not help. I feel you, like their trying to say 'u are mine, haha.'

That's staining from food, not all yellow gliders get yellow from food staining. I hv seen gliders tht arent on HPW n almost never fed apples gradually turn yellow as time passes, but it's a very nice natural yellow, not dirty or sickly yellow. As for food stains, I hv joeys get dirty brown yellow which resulted in fur loss. She was so dirty tht almost all her fur dropped off so she looked naked.

Yup, urine can stain. But thts if there's nothing to absorb it other than the fur I guess. Miko used to pee in her pouch but she didnt get yellow. She did smell bad though.

Yes they can, but they need more effort. And its amusing to see them try.

U probably know this but always be careful when sleeping with ur glider. A friend of mine did tht and killed his glider by rolling on her by accident. As for the love n commitment, keep it up!

+1

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Added on February 13, 2012, 6:37 pmDo not attempt to lying on the bed and put yr glider ontop of u...

Nak make love pun, sugar glider letak dalam cage.

I fall asleep while playing with my glider few years back. :-(

This post has been edited by loritanah: Feb 13 2012, 06:37 PM