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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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foofoosasa
post Mar 24 2017, 11:34 AM

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Anyone have successful BH especially in Oil Palm plantation estate ?
I am planning to venture BH , would like to know any owner that have successful BH in Oil Palm plantation estate ? Any Sifu please share your successful venture notworthy.gif
Bobby C
post Mar 30 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(jj2themax @ Mar 23 2017, 10:01 PM)
Is it still viable to start a BH now?
Anyone keen on providing some insights especially the veterans?
I'm a newbie and thinking of possibly starting a BH.... and why is it a BH on agri land is more risky?

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Just pay a visit to Bukit Beruntung and check out the abandoned shops since 1997 crisis.

Many bird gurus out there promise heaven and guarantee success. Statistic show more failure than success. Sifu/guru not liable if number of birds enter insufficient to reap profit.

If the best swiftlet god cannot bring in sufficient birds to make a return, what are you going to do with that building in the middle of plantation?

Bukit Beruntung got better chance of salted fish turns alive afteer 20 yrs bye.gif $$

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Babablacksheep
post Mar 30 2017, 05:08 PM

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Do you guys think that is better to sell BN with feathers, rather than processing it to a Edible BN?

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QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Mar 30 2017, 05:08 PM)
Do you guys think that is  better to sell BN with feathers, rather than processing it to a Edible BN?
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Raw and processed nest 2 different field. Processing is all about cost and skill. Of course need to find market too.
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post Apr 25 2017, 02:02 PM

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Lately the price for raw nest already skyrocket. How come this thread so quite? Everyone busy harvesting? drool.gif
Jo Yeo
post Apr 28 2017, 09:56 AM

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Guess no time to type things here as most has gone force harvesting to cash in...
Hope the rest will think twice,thrice,....
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post Apr 28 2017, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jo Yeo @ Apr 28 2017, 09:56 AM)
Guess no time to type things here as most has gone force harvesting to cash in...
Hope the rest will think twice,thrice,....
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What is force harvesting ?
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post May 2 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Apr 28 2017, 09:15 PM)
What is force harvesting ?
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Take out the nests to sell for $ and no brain/heart/moral whether there are eggs or young birds or not.
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post May 3 2017, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Jo Yeo @ May 2 2017, 10:40 AM)
Take out the nests to sell for $ and no brain/heart/moral whether there are eggs or young birds or not.
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thanks for the information. If only take when no eggs or young birds ?
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post May 13 2017, 01:52 AM

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Hello there sifus, mind to share some tips on how you guys manage the BH for the best/optimum result? Recently started to help and learn to take care of a shoplot BH (upstairs only) that started 4-5 years but nest count ranging from 1xx - 2xx only

Have never manage or build a BH before trying to learn as much as I could haha! Looking forward here that sifus can share some guidance! All sifus out there want to charge me money adui..trying luck to approach for visit or study some available resources that I can have access to

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post May 13 2017, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Tomokitsu @ May 13 2017, 01:52 AM)
Hello there sifus, mind to share some tips on how you guys manage the BH for the best/optimum result? Recently started to help and learn to take care of a shoplot BH (upstairs only) that started 4-5 years but nest count ranging from 1xx - 2xx only

Have never manage or build a BH before trying to learn as much as I could haha! Looking forward here that sifus can share some guidance! All sifus out there want to charge me money adui..trying luck to approach for visit or study some available resources that I can have access to
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Not an expert but from what I understand.. temperature, airflow, humidity and brightness. Are important areas which you can look into to try to control. There are numerous book on this topic.

But probably most important is location. some location growth is slow because the population is just low in that area.

sifus please correct me if Im wrong.

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post May 13 2017, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 13 2017, 08:08 AM)
Not an expert but from what I understand.. temperature, airflow, humidity and brightness. Are important areas which you can look into to try to control. There are numerous book on this topic.

But probably most important is location. some location growth is slow because the population is just low in that area.

sifus please correct me if Im wrong.
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From my own experience, Many factors are involved which may seem contrary to normal belief.

1 have a BH in a high BH population area. the more the merrier seems to be better. The second and third BH seems to do better than the first.

2 obvious that BH must be near their feeding areas and/or along their flight path.

3 Initially, when the BH has just started, Bird song, smell, darkness and humidity are very important to attract the birds. Song attracts, smell gives them a sense that it's where they belong, darkness give them security, humidity help them make nests that stick onto the sides.

4 The presence of predators will make the birds shun the house for a long time.

5 Easy flight path around, in and out of the house is essential. They are very good a maneuvering but definitely don't like obstructions especially on it's entry around the new house.

6 once populated, the smell will be there, darkness will not be so much of a factor, humidity is still important for good nests and they will navigate all new obstructions easily. Sound is no longer a criteria as all their own babies will make all the necessary noises.

7 separate nesting rooms or different floors are required as the young birds tend to populate elsewhere so hopefully they'll remain within the same house.


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post May 13 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ May 13 2017, 09:37 AM)
From my own experience, Many factors are involved which may seem contrary to normal belief.

1  have a BH in a high BH population area. the more the merrier seems to be better. The second and third BH seems to do better than the first. 

2  obvious that BH must be near their feeding areas and/or along their flight path.

3  Initially, when the BH has just started, Bird song, smell, darkness and humidity are very important to attract the birds.  Song attracts, smell gives them a sense that it's where they belong, darkness give them security, humidity help them make nests that stick onto the sides.

4  The presence of predators will make the birds shun the house for a long time.

5  Easy flight path around, in and out of the house is essential. They are very good a maneuvering but definitely don't like obstructions especially on it's entry around the new house.

6  once populated, the smell will be there, darkness will not be so much of a factor, humidity is still important for good nests and they will navigate all new obstructions easily. Sound is no longer a criteria as all their own babies will make all the necessary noises.

7  separate nesting rooms or different floors are required as the young birds tend to populate elsewhere so hopefully they'll remain within the same house.
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well said nod.gif

#7 last year I just added one room. So far no results yet. maybe need to add 2nd room.. stagnant for 6 months already
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post May 14 2017, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ May 13 2017, 11:12 AM)
well said  nod.gif

#7 last year I just added one room. So far no results yet. maybe need to add 2nd room.. stagnant for 6 months already
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Whenever a new room is added, tweeters must be put at the entrance of each room as well as at the furthest end of the room
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post May 15 2017, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(tuckfook @ May 14 2017, 08:50 AM)
Whenever a new room is added, tweeters must be put at the entrance of each room as well as at the furthest end of the room
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bangwall.gif i knew i was missing a step !
thanks !


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post May 15 2017, 12:57 PM

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Thank you for the sharing guys!
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post May 16 2017, 07:33 PM

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Those who have stocks can consider to sell already. Price is dropping
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post Jun 8 2017, 11:44 PM

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heloww. I wanna ask to experienced people here.

I just start to build my 1st BH, its on progress, i don't have any experience about it before, just read many articles about swiftlet. i watch about bird flight path on skies on afternoon.

There is 2 flight path. To South and to north. is it normal ? And how many enterancce hole should i make ?
Bobby C
post Jun 15 2017, 10:01 AM

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Good Birding.

Heard price up to 3500-4500. True or False?


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post Jun 15 2017, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Jun 15 2017, 10:01 AM)
Good Birding.

Heard price up to 3500-4500. True or False?
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Depend on grades. highest grade asking for RM4800-RM5300. Triangle about 3000-3200. AB 3600-3900

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