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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread V13 !, Le D4 is awaiting you @ 6000 bucks only

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BenSow
post Dec 13 2011, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(ojtee @ Dec 13 2011, 04:06 PM)
if you are really realy really afraid your beloved camera won't be able to  take the weather abuse , i would suggest you DON'T take it to Korea.

get a point and shoot with lots of SDcards, snap 1000-2000 pictures, bring them home , use photoshop edit mask and be happy with your results.....you happy, your camera happy, we all happy.......kapish?  yawn.gif

if you still not happy, you can always book a flight to korea again, this time in the warm weather where you can take your dslr with you......... smile.gif
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QUOTE(gnome @ Dec 13 2011, 04:10 PM)
^^ What he said. Really you getting paranoid now.
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I'm determined to bring, my house PnS sucks which is why I got a DSLR in the first place ._.

Lol now I'm ok di.. Got everything I need to know smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2011, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 11 2011, 10:07 AM)
Referring Buddhist to...? Tea session?

My old pic on the D90 with 85 and 70200...

85mm,
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Thanks for sharing with us, CY.

I'm considering between these 2 lenses on which to add to my gears list first. I guess, I would need the 70-200 more than the 85 for the versatility in range rather than bokeh. At times when I wanted to get closer shot when the subject is on stage, that's a pretty difficult to reach sad.gif

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post Dec 13 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 13 2011, 05:49 PM)
There's nothing wrong to shoot  Jpeg or RAW, shooting RAW, you get to produce JPEG; But with Jpeg, you cannot get RAW. So, which to choose?
Choose RAW if have large capacity card and willing to spend time in front of PC, tuning the RAW files into JPEG masterpiece biggrin.gif

Or use the camera to produce JPEG masterpiece and save more space for more masterpiece and don't need spend much time in front of PC too.. laugh.gif





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Lol ok one last question.. If Lithium-ion battery dies(as in drained), will it revive when warmed up?

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post Dec 13 2011, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 13 2011, 08:01 PM)
Choose RAW if have large capacity card and willing to spend time in front of PC, tuning the RAW files into JPEG masterpiece biggrin.gif

Or use the camera to produce JPEG masterpiece and save more space for more masterpiece and don't need spend much time in front of PC too..  laugh.gif
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Don't just stop there; don't be binded by the rules and thoughts of others, explore and think outside the box. There's always room for improvement, learning and exploring.
No editing doesn't makes the person a better photographer or professional, nor editing makes anyone inferior, it's more like the thoughts of people who want to feel proud of themselves.

Everyone has different level of requirement, satisfaction, demand, etc. One may be happy with the results product, while another may seek to improve further or "not good enough".


Added on December 13, 2011, 8:49 pm
QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 13 2011, 08:35 PM)
Lol ok one last question.. If Lithium-ion battery dies(as in drained), will it revive when warmed up?
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It won't really go "empty", it will cut off the power when it's below certain level; Thus for handphone, you will notice you can still turn it on, but if you keep doing that, you're doing damage to the battery. Li-Ion is unlike the older battery which you need to use until low then only re-charge; for Li-Ion, you should keep it charge happy, you can charge it anytime and it won't over-charge, there is a cut off point. If it's full or above the cut off point, it won't charge even you plug in the charger. For handphone, you may see it says "battery full" when you try to charge even it's not.

I didn't know this when Li-Ion battery first introduce in handphone... I kept draining it and just right after 6 months, the battery went dead, the voltage dropped. Finally, read up and learned about Li-Ion...
You can also read about it, and how to keep battery performance tip top.


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post Dec 13 2011, 09:26 PM

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maybe he is adi profession in his field dat he can handle all d setting depends on d lighting...
well...
dat's him...
dat's his personal style i would say...
and i quite enjoy looking @ some of his masterpiece...

btw...
if u r using RAW & open in lightroom...
u can't get d original colour from Nikon...
i mean like what u see in ur LCD...
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post Dec 13 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ojtee @ Dec 13 2011, 04:06 PM)
if you are really realy really afraid your beloved camera won't be able to  take the weather abuse , i would suggest you DON'T take it to Korea.

get a point and shoot with lots of SDcards, snap 1000-2000 pictures, bring them home , use photoshop edit mask and be happy with your results.....you happy, your camera happy, we all happy.......kapish?  yawn.gif

if you still not happy, you can always book a flight to korea again, this time in the warm weather where you can take your dslr with you......... smile.gif
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to ben sow, are you the only son in your family?
then you SHOULD take you D3100 to korea and abuse kaw kaw then got reason to nag your father to get D700 drool.gif whistling.gif

okay joking tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Dec 13 2011, 09:26 PM)
maybe he is adi profession in his field dat he can handle all d setting depends on d lighting...
well...
dat's him...
dat's his personal style i would say...
and i quite enjoy looking @ some of his masterpiece...

btw...
if u r using RAW & open in lightroom...
u can't get d original colour from Nikon...
i mean like what u see in ur LCD...
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yea..i had to admit that the color will lari if you shoot raw and open with LR....anyway to solve this?
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:02 PM

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its RAW the color tat ran away (hehe) in lightroom is actually with out color profiles, less sharp, less contrast but more information. it is as the name implies, RAW information. compare the jpg file size vs raw. Jpg is a compressed format. maybe thats why i seldom shoot raw, so many things to tweak n put back...headache i see it ... but in bad lighting conditions its a life saver
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 8 2011, 07:33 AM)
Yeah, even half body also have nice bokeh tongue.gif

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Jazlyn, AMD by CY Pixels, on Flickr
SB900 do... I think SB700 as well?
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nicely captured and edit bro:) icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Dec 13 2011, 09:26 PM)
maybe he is adi profession in his field dat he can handle all d setting depends on d lighting...
well...
dat's him...
dat's his personal style i would say...
and i quite enjoy looking @ some of his masterpiece...

btw...
if u r using RAW & open in lightroom...
u can't get d original colour from Nikon...
i mean like what u see in ur LCD...
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Whichever it is, it's each person preferences. Don't be confined or limited to something when we have options and flexibility. It doesn't mean choosing either way a person cannot be better. Most true professionals or expert can get it right and do everything perfectly in camera, but do you think they don't agree in doing editing or shooting raw?

Yes, Nikon has their own profile, so does other manufacturer. For lightroom, default colour profile is Adobe, you can change to Camera Standard, Camera Vivid, etc and see different colour, and you can also make further adjustments, it all depends on how you like to tweak to your liking and preferences; there's a lot of explore and learn/know. Even from your camera itself, choosing different profile will give your different colour output (e.g. portrait, standard, etc). If you want Nikon colour, there's Nikon Capture NX.

Anyway, it's all about preference; Even exposure, some prefer darker, some prefer brighter; which both have it's uniqueness, so how do you define RIGHT or WRONG? You may shoot with correct WB, but some people prefer the warmer colour (yellow lighting feel), again is it right or wrong? This is an art, not science, it's not 1 + 1=2.
BUT, if it's a good photo is a good photo, it's just how good to each person.
Given 100 photos to 100 people, not everyone may like the same photo, but there maybe one photo which more people choose.
Given 1 single photo edited with different exposure/style/colour/tone/etc to 100 people, not everyone may choose the same one, but there maybe one that most people prefer.

Look at froknowsphoto, see how many different editing can produce by different person given a raw file and how different people will like different result. With RAW, you have more flexibility of producing many different output for a given raw file.


Added on December 13, 2011, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(gerald7 @ Dec 13 2011, 10:02 PM)
its RAW the color tat ran away (hehe) in lightroom is actually with out color profiles, less sharp, less contrast but more information. it is as the name implies, RAW information. compare the jpg file size vs raw. Jpg is a compressed format. maybe thats why i seldom shoot raw, so many things to tweak n put back...headache i see it ... but in bad lighting conditions its a life saver
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Before digital era, if RAW is like Negative, then Jpeg is something like those Polaroid that produce/print picture right away.

That why I say depends on condition, if shooting for wedding/actions, etc. there maybe no time to adjust this and that, even shooting in manual is also not easy, even shooting in A/S/P mode, it doesn't mean it can be correct as well, the metering can still be fooled, in the same room, just changing different angle or moving slightly may affect the camera WB settings. I believe those who have experience it will understand what I'm talking about; if you're editing the raw file, you may notice a certain photo suddenly require major adjustment to the WB from the rest, it's just so happen that you're at the spot that may have produce warmer or cooler tones, even you're in the same room/place.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 13 2011, 08:43 PM)
Don't just stop there; don't be binded by the rules and thoughts of others, explore and think outside the box. There's always room for improvement, learning and exploring.
No editing doesn't makes the person a better photographer or professional, nor editing makes anyone inferior, it's more like the thoughts of people who want to feel proud of themselves.

Everyone has different level of requirement, satisfaction, demand, etc. One may be happy with the results product, while another may seek to improve further or "not good enough".


Added on December 13, 2011, 8:49 pm

It won't really go "empty", it will cut off the power when it's below certain level; Thus for handphone, you will notice you can still turn it on, but if you keep doing that, you're doing damage to the battery. Li-Ion is unlike the older battery which you need to use until low then only re-charge; for Li-Ion, you should keep it charge happy, you can charge it anytime and it won't over-charge, there is a cut off point. If it's full or above the cut off point, it won't charge even you plug in the charger. For handphone, you may see it says "battery full" when you try to charge even it's not.

I didn't know this when Li-Ion battery first introduce in handphone... I kept draining it and just right after 6 months, the battery went dead, the voltage dropped. Finally, read up and learned about Li-Ion...
You can also read about it, and how to keep battery performance tip top.
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Not exactly what I was looking for. They say in cold weather it drains faster, what if my cam shows low battery and I remove it and warm it back up, will it continue functioning with more juice?

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Dec 13 2011, 09:30 PM)
to ben sow, are you the only son in your family?
then you SHOULD take you D3100 to korea and abuse kaw kaw then got reason to nag your father to get D700  drool.gif  whistling.gif

okay joking  tongue.gif
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dude I had problems convincing him to get a RM340 graphic card. Enough said tongue.gif
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iv been shooting JPEG's since i got my dslr. i think next job i wanna try take RAW lah. i will end up editing the pictures anyway so might as well try RAW hehe
though now i need to get extra cards blink.gif

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Dec 13 2011, 11:02 PM)
Not exactly what I was looking for. They say in cold weather it drains faster, what if my cam shows low battery and I remove it and warm it back up, will it continue functioning with more juice?
dude I had problems convincing him to get a RM340 graphic card. Enough said  tongue.gif
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card = gaming whistling.gif no good.

DSLR = photography, tell him you can do freelance then he might will invest whistling.gif

unless you gotta do 3D modeller whistling.gif

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Hmm... DSLR as a form of investing eh?

I doubt I consider mine investing. Since I only shoot still lives photography with my so-so camera and I am happy with it. I don't really think highly of my photos though. Tend to think that it sucks.

btw, taking in RAW does wonders. There's no such thing as taking Jpeg in Hasselblad...
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Not sure if anyone posted this, but here it goes. Freaking awesome!


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post Dec 14 2011, 08:20 AM

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BenSow,
i think you are definitely too worry about things.
you camera will be fine. if the battery sort of cut off in the middle of the shooting, just put the camera in your jacket for a couple of minutes and the battery will work again.

on the other hand, buy another battery as stand by in case you run out of juice. it's not that expensive.

just bring the camera along and have fun during the holiday.
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Hello guys.

I have the same dilemma too. I will be bringing my camera to Europe and I scare my camera will die laugh.gif
Some places that I gonna visit will be around -ve Celsius sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Dec 14 2011, 09:06 AM)
Hello guys.

I have the same dilemma too. I will be bringing my camera to Europe and I scare my camera will die laugh.gif
Some places that I gonna visit will be around -ve Celsius sweat.gif
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lu tak payah bimbang la, own 24mm f/1.4 before no problem one...ben sow is student mah, he is worry is normal since he still no income to replace a new one =x

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Dec 14 2011, 09:10 AM)
lu tak payah bimbang la, own 24mm f/1.4 before no problem one...ben sow is student mah, he is worry is normal since he still no income to replace a new one =x

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laugh.gif Sold 24mm so long ago.
Now use kitty lens niah. Hopefully can works la.


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