@patryn33
i was kinda looking out for a pilot watch feel, so the aviator kinda sits well at the moment. im still very inclined to get a steinhart as its a swiss piece like u said

hehe. and thanks for the links dude. didnt know its by citizen. nice.
@ck77
ah, nice...with all the seiko autos i have, non-hacking seems to be the norm. haha.
@Chinoz
HAHAHA! if i get a person glaring at me or cursing me i'll know its YOU!

over all i think its a nice piece..something i dont have yet. reasonably priced also.
Added on December 6, 2011, 2:59 pmQUOTE(deriku @ Dec 6 2011, 02:47 PM)
Re Miyota movement, ck77 is right, rotor is a bit noisy, and the second hand has known to have a 'stutter' issue (luckily mine is fine).
With Laco now charging shipping fees, I think it would be worth to consider Steinhart.
oh? the second hand has a little stutter? the sweep isnt very smooth you mean?
laco's store is charging shipping? i think gnomon is still free.

will check...i wont be heading down SG this month

so no chance to go gnomon.
This post has been edited by fluffy6640: Dec 6 2011, 02:59 PM