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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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prophetjul
post Jan 17 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 17 2012, 10:38 AM)
Can anyone recommend a few gold ETF that I can buy? Popular ones with high trading volumes.
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Here you go biggrin.gif

UGL Jan 13 86.44 1.25 1.43% 291,531 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ProShares Ultra Gold
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SGOL Jan 13 162.37 1.10 0.67% 81,478 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ETFS Physical Swiss Gold Shares
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IAU Jan 13 15.97 0.11 0.68% 3,572,109 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ishares Gold Trust
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NUGT Jan 13 22.40 0.86 3.70% 618,433 Chart, Message, Profile, more... Direxion Daily Gold Miners Bull
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DGP Jan 13 52.04 0.75 1.42% 423,114 Chart, Message, Profile, more... Deutsche Bank AG DB Gold Double

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GLD Jan 13 159.26 1.12 0.70% 8,911,829 Chart, Message, Profile, more... SPDR Gold Trust
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post Jan 17 2012, 03:45 PM

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wow....gold price shoot up today... how high can it be? hmmmm

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post Jan 17 2012, 04:27 PM

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Agree - Gold price per g for UOB has rise up to 168.70 this evening, from 166.8 last friday! Wohooooo!!

Gold Prices
Gold Investment Accounts
Last updated 17/01/2012 15:55. The Prices shown here are indicative only and are subject to change without prior notice. They are not to be taken as an offer to contract. United Overseas Bank Group shall not be responsible for any loss or damage arising directly or indirectly from the use of or reliance on the information provided herein.


Item Size Bank Selling(RM) Bank Buying(RM)
Premier Gold Account 1 KG 168000.00 167000.00
Gold Savings Account 1 GM 168.70 166.70


Source: http://www1.uob.com.my/business/GMIM/GMIM_pga.html



QUOTE(curaptz @ Jan 17 2012, 03:45 PM)
wow....gold price shoot up today... how high can it be? hmmmm
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This post has been edited by izzudrecoba: Jan 17 2012, 04:28 PM
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post Jan 17 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Jan 17 2012, 04:27 PM)
Agree - Gold price per g for UOB has rise up to 168.70 this evening, from 166.8 last friday! Wohooooo!!

Gold Prices
Gold Investment Accounts
Last updated 17/01/2012 15:55. The Prices shown here are indicative only and are subject to change without prior notice. They are not to be taken as an offer to contract. United Overseas Bank Group shall not be responsible for any loss or damage arising directly or indirectly from the use of or reliance on the information provided herein.
Item                      Size          Bank Selling(RM)  Bank Buying(RM)
Premier Gold Account    1 KG                168000.00                  167000.00
Gold Savings Account    1 GM                      168.70                        166.70
Source: http://www1.uob.com.my/business/GMIM/GMIM_pga.html
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May be due to chinese new year tht is around the corner?
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post Jan 17 2012, 04:53 PM

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Desmond, you made a valid point. My friend who had invested in gold several years ago informed me that the gold price will rise up during and after Chinese New Year. Goldman Sachs picked gold & silver as the best commodity to invest this year rclxms.gif

QUOTE(desmond_fantasy @ Jan 17 2012, 04:30 PM)
May be due to chinese new year tht is around the corner?
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post Jan 17 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Jan 17 2012, 04:53 PM)
Desmond, you made a valid point. My friend who had invested in gold several years ago informed me that the gold price will rise up during and after Chinese New Year. Goldman Sachs picked gold & silver as the best commodity to invest this year  rclxms.gif
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Ya, i think so. You are doing much researchs as well. Hope that gold price will really rise this year.
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post Jan 17 2012, 05:32 PM

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Thank you for the kind word, mate. Please find an interesting article on gold prediction this year below.


Morgan Stanley Predicts Gold to Hit $2,200 in 2012... Maybe as High as $2,464

By Brian Hicks
Friday, January 13th, 2012

Morgan Stanley is predicting gold will be the best-performing commodity in 2012 — and may make a new record high as investors look to secure their wealth against European uncertainty and slowing economic growth.

Their price target is $2,200 an ounce… with the potential to reach as high as $2,464.

Goldman Sachs is less aggressive, but bullish nonetheless.

Their price target for gold in this year is $1,940 an ounce:

We’re staying overweight on commodities as a rebound in demand revives speculation of shortages, with gold a favorite for 2012 as investors seek a hedge against Europe’s debt crisis.

Demand for gold strengthened most of last year as Europe’s debt crisis widened and the U.S. Federal Reserve pledged to keep interest rates near zero until at least mid-2013. Low interest rates increase the appeal of bullion because they generally reduce the prospect of returns on bonds.

Our view on gold is driven by our view on underlying real interest rates. It is the sharp drop in price that makes it more attractive.


One of the things I do to gauge the gold market is I go to coin and bullion dealers.

Before coming to the office today, I stopped in to see my favorite coin and bullion dealer. And I can tell you business in his shop is still booming.

Then came this little tidbit over the wire...

Hong Kong reported this past Wednesday that their gold imports reached record heights this month as investors rushed to the precious metal before the Luna New Year — a weeklong holiday beginning on January 23 — in order to "hedge against financial turmoil."

According to Bloomberg:

Demand for gold is climbing in China as investors seek to protect their wealth against slumping property prices and equity markets amid an inflation rate above 4 percent. The nation overtook India in the third quarter as the largest gold jewelry market, according to the World Gold Council.

The country is also the biggest producer. Bullion rose as much as 0.9 percent to $1,647.45 an ounce today, the highest since Dec. 13.


I usually read Wall Street predictions with a skeptical and suspicious eye.

But I actually think they’re spot-on with their call — especially after reading the Chinese story.

And the chart of gold suggests they’re right.

Take a look:

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Gold is setting up a double-bottom formation after selling off late last year.

You see, this pattern formed before — in 2008-2009.

In fact, it’s almost the exact same formation:

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Gold broke out perfectly from the “W” formation… and hit the precise price target is was supposed to hit.

The current chart suggests a breakout to $1,950 — almost exactly what Goldman is predicting.

I’ve been long gold for several years. I’m still long this year.



Source: http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/gold-going-to-2000/3366



QUOTE(desmond_fantasy @ Jan 17 2012, 04:57 PM)
Ya, i think so. You are doing much researchs as well. Hope that gold price will really rise this year.
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This post has been edited by izzudrecoba: Jan 17 2012, 05:33 PM
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post Jan 17 2012, 06:59 PM

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Hopefully gold return to its nature as safe-haven.
4th Q 2011 period as risky asset & EU-correlated are quite stressfull tongue.gif
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post Jan 17 2012, 10:53 PM

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I'm planning to buy a few gram of gold tmr at maybank. Since u all said that it is likely to increase this Chinese new year.

Any advice? Yes, no?
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post Jan 18 2012, 09:35 AM

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Wednesday January 18, 2012
Dr M: Value currencies against gold instead of US dollar

KUALA LUMPUR: Go back to gold, former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad tells economies entangled in a financial crisis.

The world should re-look at valuing their currencies against the precious commodity instead of the US dollar, Dr Mahathir said at the International Conference on Global Movement of Moderates dinner yesterday.

He added that the price of gold had been rising while the US dollar suffered a devaluation.

If the world needed a new financial blueprint, said Dr Mahathir, reviewing the Bretton Woods system would be the best thing to do.

“You don’t really have to exchange gold but to value your currency against it.

“Then you can have a business based not on speculation or manipulation, but on real value,” the senior statesman told an audience of about 500 at a hotel here.

The Bretton Woods Agreement is an international trade agreement signed after World War II, which benchmarked the currencies of its signatory countries against gold and the US dollar.

Earlier in his speech, Dr Mahathir blamed the global financial crisis on manipulation and abuses by certain players in the financial market.

He said there were people who made huge sums of money at the expense of the world.

“Malaysia became poor because of the abuses in the financial market during the 1997-1998 crisis.

“Paper currency has little value. But an ounce of gold at one point was worth US$35. Its current price for the same weight is US$1,700.

“If we want to have a new financial architecture, the best way is to get back to the beginning,” said Dr Mahathir.

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post Jan 18 2012, 10:58 AM

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My advise: Go grab some grams of gold for before Chinese New Year. But if you migrate to UOB Bank Gold Savings Account it would be even more better! biggrin.gif

http://senseofmoney.blogspot.com/2011/06/c...gs-account.html

QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 17 2012, 10:53 PM)
I'm planning to buy a few gram of gold tmr at maybank. Since u all said that it is likely to increase this Chinese new year.

Any advice? Yes, no?
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post Jan 18 2012, 11:18 AM

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How many of us are having these GIA accounts?
Maybe we should all write a feedback to UOB (or other banks) and pressure them to introduce online trading!!
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I'm waiting for the price to drop below RM165 p/gram again. tongue.gif
Else, I'll just grab it next month with whatever price possible. biggrin.gif
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hope that gold price will decrease a bit after CNY.. so i can go topup my MGIA account, hehe... but.. will it drop?? it seem that gold is increasing bit by bit from end of year slump... hurmm...
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Besides the selling and buying price differences , what else do I have concern of ? The selling price differ for each bank even at the same time . Don't they follow global gold price ?

Eg: -
CIMB Gold Deposit 169.800 164.200
UOB Gold Savings Account 166.90 164.90

Selling price are RM2.90 per gram yet buying price more or less the same. How to choose which bank to invest in ?
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QUOTE(mysql2779 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:43 PM)
Besides the selling and buying price differences , what else do I have concern of ? The selling price differ for each bank even at the same time . Don't they follow global gold price ?

Eg: -
CIMB  Gold Deposit            169.800 164.200
UOB Gold Savings Account  166.90      164.90

Selling price are RM2.90 per gram yet buying price more or less the same. How to choose which bank to invest in ?
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Hope this link will enlighten you on your questions smile.gif

http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/compariso...avings-account/

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 17 2012, 06:14 AM)
Here you go    biggrin.gif

UGL Jan 13 86.44  1.25  1.43% 291,531 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ProShares Ultra Gold
- - - - -
SGOL Jan 13 162.37  1.10  0.67% 81,478 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ETFS Physical Swiss Gold Shares
- - - - -
IAU Jan 13 15.97  0.11  0.68% 3,572,109 Chart, Message, Profile, more... ishares Gold Trust
- - - - -
NUGT Jan 13 22.40  0.86  3.70% 618,433 Chart, Message, Profile, more... Direxion Daily Gold Miners Bull
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DGP Jan 13 52.04  0.75  1.42% 423,114 Chart, Message, Profile, more... Deutsche Bank AG DB Gold Double

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GLD Jan 13 159.26  1.12  0.70% 8,911,829 Chart, Message, Profile, more... SPDR Gold Trust
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Thanks for this list.
Is there anyone who is an expert (or know 1 or 2 about ETF)??

Both GLD and DGP follow the gold price movement. However, 1 is priced at 159.26 while the other is 52.04.
Is there any benefits of buying GLD instead of DGP?
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QUOTE(richardt3o @ Jan 17 2012, 10:53 PM)
I'm planning to buy a few gram of gold tmr at maybank. Since u all said that it is likely to increase this Chinese new year.

Any advice? Yes, no?
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The CNY is more to a trend. But not guaranteed as we are not controlling the market....

QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 18 2012, 11:18 AM)
How many of us are having these GIA accounts?
Maybe we should all write a feedback to UOB (or other banks) and pressure them to introduce online trading!!
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I dont have UOB coz their branch too far from my place. Got public and maybank.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:21 AM)
I'm waiting for the price to drop below RM165 p/gram again. tongue.gif
Else, I'll just grab it next month with whatever price possible. biggrin.gif
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Mate, i think it would be quiet hard for gold to drop below rm165/g. Yesterday the price was rm 168.7 and today was rm 167.3. I bet the lowest point of uob gold would be around rm 166.3.


Added on January 18, 2012, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(mysql2779 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:43 PM)
Besides the selling and buying price differences , what else do I have concern of ? The selling price differ for each bank even at the same time . Don't they follow global gold price ?

Eg: -
CIMB  Gold Deposit            169.800 164.200
UOB Gold Savings Account  166.90      164.90

Selling price are RM2.90 per gram yet buying price more or less the same. How to choose which bank to invest in ?
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Choose the bank with the lowest spread rate and pow buying price. UOB is the preferred choice for now as you can quickly make profit from your gold investment as compared to other gold saving account.


Added on January 18, 2012, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 18 2012, 11:18 AM)
How many of us are having these GIA accounts?
Maybe we should all write a feedback to UOB (or other banks) and pressure them to introduce online trading!!
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Buddy, if you can convince UOB Bank to implement online trading that will be fantastic! smile.gif

This post has been edited by izzudrecoba: Jan 18 2012, 11:19 PM
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wat is lowest spread rate and pow buying price ?

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