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Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?
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azliayob
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Jan 14 2012, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 13 2012, 12:40 AM) how do they test the purity of the gold? i heard some gold is wrap with gold on the outer layer only, and metal inside. i am just curious only... they have a gold testing machine.. From density, weight and purity. If a coin or bullion, to sell is easy because the solid weight it have rather than jewellery...
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CoupD'Etat
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Jan 14 2012, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(azliayob @ Jan 14 2012, 01:14 AM) they have a gold testing machine.. From density, weight and purity. If a coin or bullion, to sell is easy because the solid weight it have rather than jewellery... for suisse gold coin/bullion. they do have a plastic cover the coin with serial number on it. testing for the gold purity is not neccessary. there is a machine to test on density n weight. but i do not know whether bank use it to test the purity. if go to shop. normally they will cut into half and test the gold purity. coz nowaday a lot of cheaters and gold price is hike . if paying gold price to buy alloy, the shop will face great loss.
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SUS.O.
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Jan 14 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(StarFalls~* @ Jan 12 2012, 11:25 PM) yeap, i agree that the business model is questionable, there's even alot of topics about this in LYN itself, but most of it is either "sales consultants" trying to sell it with a MLMer behavioral style, or people refuting it based on its' questionable business model itself. what i really need is real example of people getting trapped, i myself is not interested in this scheme. got email reply back from genneva: QUOTE For your info, GENNEVA Sdnn Bhd (592576-A), (formerly known as Dimensi Sentosa Sdn Bhd) was incorporated in Malaysia under the Companies Act 1965 to conduct gold bullion trading business in Malaysia using GENNEVA’s unique concept. GENNEVA has complied with Section 21(1) of BAFIA 1989 (Banking and Financial Institution Act) relating to factoring and leasing business and has acquired the status of a scheduled business. GENNEVA Malaysia is also a reporting institution under AMLA 2001 (Anti Money Laundering and Anti-Terrorism Financing Act). GENNEVA Malaysia’s a business model is based on the Syariah principle of “Al-Bai” (sale and purchase). To make the transaction more attractive, GENNEVA Malaysia rewards its customers with discretionary payments pursuant to the Syariah principle of "Hibah."
1. minimum how much do I need to have to start investing in Genneva? Minimum 50gm.
2. is there a centre I can go to to ask more questions? Our HQ located at Kuchai Lama. The address as below: No. 52A-1, Jln Kuchai Lama Maju 6, Off Jalan Kuchai Lama 58200 KL.
3. how to start investing in Genneva? RM209 / gm is today price. Gold-BEAM ( The Gold Bullion Entrepreneurs Association of Malaysia) will be provided daily recommended retail price for our customers. GENNEVA Malaysia rewards its customers with discretionary payments pursuant to the Syariah principle of "Hibah (as a gift)."
Our current promo as below:-
NEW PURCHASE HIBAH RATE FOR Chinese New Year PROMOTION (until end of this month)
GOLD PURCHASE HIBAH PERIOD 50g to 95g 1.8% 4 Months 100g to 995g 2.0% 4 Months 1000g & 1995g 2.2% 4 Months 2000g & Above 2.5% 4 Months
4. any sales person I can contact to have face to face chat about Genneva? You can call me anytime.
Please do not hesitate to contact me should you have any questions.
Thank You. Best Regards,
Simon Kong Business Development Manager GENNEVA Malaysia Sdn Bhd Website: www.genneva-world.com u sure u're not interested?
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GoldChan
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Jan 14 2012, 01:51 PM
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can u show us the real coin photo? thanks. QUOTE(ricstc @ Jan 13 2012, 12:11 AM) Hi Can anyone here (who has the knowledge or experience) suggest to me what to do / if I can do in my case: 1. have 1oz Canadian Maple Gold Leaf Coins (these types)  2. Bought this almost 20 years ago but are MINT (ie kept in dry box safe) hence pristine looking 3. Have lost the purchase receipt. Bought from Spore OUB Question: How do I sell them for cash - not that I want to now - but how and where is my question. Many thanks 
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potenza10
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Jan 14 2012, 02:27 PM
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There u go...goldchan is here to buy your coin
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penanghomes
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Jan 15 2012, 08:35 PM
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hi...anyone here wanna sell their gold coin or bar...not more than 20gram...do pm me....penang island....thanks.
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doraemonkiller
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Jan 16 2012, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(.O. @ Jan 14 2012, 12:34 PM) got email reply back from genneva: u sure u're not interested?  Not attractive at all. First their gold price is too high compare with bank and goldsmith shops. Nowdays, gold price increase like 20% per year and their Hibah is lower than 10% per year because when you sell back your gold bar to them you will only able to take back the price you paid. If you sell to goldsmith shop you lose at least 40% of the price you paid for that gold bar.
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prophetjul
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Jan 16 2012, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2012, 12:27 AM) Not attractive at all. First their gold price is too high compare with bank and goldsmith shops. Nowdays, gold price increase like 20% per year and their Hibah is lower than 10% per year because when you sell back your gold bar to them you will only able to take back the price you paid. If you sell to goldsmith shop you lose at least 40% of the price you paid for that gold bar. Only suckers do not see that scheme. Pay yerself the interest rates with HIGH goldbeam rates which are for jewellery applied to gold bars One day when the ride is over, and the price of gold unravels and the sell back rolls into a monster Snowball, they will be gone. At that time you will be faced with Mr goldsmith asking you to give 50% haircuts on yer piece or hold it yerself.............................
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thunderaj
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Jan 16 2012, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jan 13 2012, 12:11 AM) Hi Can anyone here (who has the knowledge or experience) suggest to me what to do / if I can do in my case: 1. have 1oz Canadian Maple Gold Leaf Coins (these types)  2. Bought this almost 20 years ago but are MINT (ie kept in dry box safe) hence pristine looking 3. Have lost the purchase receipt. Bought from Spore OUB Question: How do I sell them for cash - not that I want to now - but how and where is my question. Many thanks  if i were you i would keep this coin unless you are great need for cash..
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GoldChan
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Jan 16 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 14 2012, 02:27 PM) There u go...goldchan is here to buy your coin show me the real coin then only i can comment lah. Added on January 16, 2012, 8:07 pmQUOTE(penanghomes @ Jan 15 2012, 08:35 PM) hi...anyone here wanna sell their gold coin or bar...not more than 20gram...do pm me....penang island....thanks. well, do PM me. can spare you some 1/10 oz gold lunar for sales. price will depends on when U lockin. This post has been edited by GoldChan: Jan 16 2012, 08:07 PM
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ricstc
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Jan 16 2012, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Jan 16 2012, 09:33 AM) if i were you i would keep this coin unless you are great need for cash.. No as I said I am not going to sell it now. I wanted to know IF I wanted to sell it, where to. Thanks
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FirezZ
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Jan 17 2012, 12:33 AM
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Hi... sorry if this is too simple question ... hmm noob in gold investment  recently i am looking around for the paper / e-account gold... Mbb seems ranks the highest in terms of selling price ? and diff. between selling and buying def. higher than oub. Does this means.. if i am about to invest.. probably in 6 months each cycle...getting it from oub is better choice ? I was told by the Mbb staff that i just need to buy 1g to open the account but... on any transaction (buying/selling) i need to present myself and line up at the counter .. aiks.. no online banking solution for this ? Any recommendation for me to start up this type of investment ? no.. i do not have enuf money to get 1 kg of the physical gold... so physical gold is not a good choice for me  thanks
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potenza10
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Jan 17 2012, 12:46 AM
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I also dont have such money to buy 1kg to start in gold, and i believe many ppl out there just same like me...u can buy in small size/grams..
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FirezZ
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Jan 17 2012, 12:50 AM
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ooo .. which thing to take note or ... perhaps some idea for me on my 1st step of buying it ?  maybank ? oub ? or... save my money to get 1 kg directly ? aiks....
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potenza10
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Jan 17 2012, 06:44 AM
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No need to buy 1kg for starter..1g,5g,10g,1/4oz,1/2oz,1oz, 1 dinar etc....
But if u dont prefer to buy physical,then go for paper lah..
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pick11
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Jan 17 2012, 09:12 AM
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New Member
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please refer to past disccusions..
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thunderaj
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Jan 17 2012, 09:39 AM
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GOld price US $ 53.04/gram up by 23 cents.
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FirezZ
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Jan 17 2012, 10:37 AM
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but which bank will be recommended for first time in terms of additional charges will be imposed ? i tried to check previous thread... seems no exact answer for this
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TSOM
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Jan 17 2012, 10:38 AM
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Can anyone recommend a few gold ETF that I can buy? Popular ones with high trading volumes. Thanks.
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desmond_fantasy
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Jan 17 2012, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(penanghomes @ Jan 15 2012, 08:35 PM) hi...anyone here wanna sell their gold coin or bar...not more than 20gram...do pm me....penang island....thanks. I just sold to my frens.... QUOTE(TSOM @ Jan 17 2012, 10:38 AM) Can anyone recommend a few gold ETF that I can buy? Popular ones with high trading volumes. Thanks. Seconded, have no idea about that
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