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 TAMIYA mini 4wd V12, ミニ四駆公認競技会

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soulfly
post Dec 3 2013, 10:04 PM

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post Dec 4 2013, 12:18 AM

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Started off with the basic Shadow Shark AR kit (WP_001558.jpg), then added single plate (WP_001560.jpg). After that decided, single plate not enough, added another plate to the bottom (WP_001561.jpg).

Only not sure of the rear rollers setup (WP_001564.jpg). Does it look strong enough?


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post Dec 4 2013, 12:56 AM

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Want to share, my Dyna Hawk GX..brows.gif brows.gif

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btw, anyone are doing trimmer services? i got some tire for trim..

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SUStoa cheng
post Dec 4 2013, 02:48 AM

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waaaa show off time?
brb *taking picture my collection*
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post Dec 4 2013, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(ShinKen @ Dec 3 2013, 08:06 PM)
woooo! sorry for the late reply. was away for KLIMS. only managed to score Top 80. I lost trying to qualify to Top 50 to Jai (of Speed Houz). His car is a speed demon  sweat.gif  all-out massive respect to Jai. KLIMS was intense! great layout. format was Semi 'yang terlebih' Speed. designed by Dasa. thank you Dasa! best gila  rclxm9.gif
crowd was great too! the cheering and everything was plain mad and fun.

btw, back to the topic. is MA as easy to tune as MS? I broke like 3 nose units of MS in less than 4 weeks playing hahaha. everytime I break the nose unit, I learned a new way to reinforce it. good learning process, bad for my wallet though.
but, MS is soooo easy to tune for Semi Tech & Semi Speed la. too easy makes it boring sikit. is it the same for MA? I mean, is it easy to tune? if it is, I wanna pindah to VS or Super 2 pulak.
I find Super 2 is a cheaper chassis to work on with compared to MS.
e.g : RM 25 = 2 Sets of Super 2 Chassis (RM 12.50 for a chassis)

.....but for MS is as follows
RM 20 (for normal black coloured Nose & Tail unit) or RM 33 (for red reinforced N04 / T04) or RM 33 (for bumperless LED Nose & Tail)
+
RM 20 (for lightweight centre)
= RM 40 - RM 73 for only 1 set  rclxub.gif

in a nutshell, it's RM27.50 - RM 60.50 difference in price per chassis comparing MS with Super 2  sweat.gif
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want a challenge ar ? use super fm then .. XD

QUOTE(toa cheng @ Dec 4 2013, 02:48 AM)
waaaa  show off time?
brb *taking picture my collection*
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i wanna see tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2013, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Dec 4 2013, 02:53 AM)
want a challenge ar ? use super fm then .. XD
i wanna see  tongue.gif
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sonic_cd
post Dec 4 2013, 03:13 AM

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those who know me , this pic is ol news . lol tongue.gif

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ashrafrahman
post Dec 4 2013, 09:31 AM

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WOW!! drool.gif drool.gif

seeing your guys collection is superb man notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

if I get my hand on those, don't think so can resist myself to mod all of them... brows.gif brows.gif

again....respect to you all thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

@toacheng .....mana collection ko? vmad.gif kasi tunjuk sikit apa ko ada bwh katil ko whistling.gif


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post Dec 4 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 3 2013, 05:31 PM)
I rather recommend Basic Tune Up Parts for AR Chassis (item no. 15450) because the 15435 rear mounting is a tad easy to break.
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QUOTE(mudster @ Dec 3 2013, 06:05 PM)
Alamak. Bought the standard one oredi. Arghhh....
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I prefer the universal one as I can mount the brake further back = more brake time.

QUOTE(mudster @ Dec 4 2013, 12:18 AM)
Started off with the basic Shadow Shark AR kit (WP_001558.jpg), then added single plate (WP_001560.jpg). After that decided, single plate not enough, added another plate to the bottom (WP_001561.jpg).

Only not sure of the rear rollers setup (WP_001564.jpg). Does it look strong enough?
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Good start.. thumbup.gif

BTW, you mount those 19mm rollers on wrong holes.
Follow this guide.
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QUOTE(afaiszuan @ Dec 4 2013, 12:56 AM)
Want to share, my Dyna Hawk GX..brows.gif  brows.gif

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btw, anyone are doing trimmer services? i got some tire for trim..
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Wuuuuu~ AKD tuuu~ shocking.gif

QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Dec 4 2013, 03:13 AM)
those who know me , this pic is ol news . lol  tongue.gif

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Sonic sudah keluar harta karun dia.. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 4 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Dec 4 2013, 09:41 AM)
I prefer the universal one as I can mount the brake further back = more brake time.
Good start.. thumbup.gif

BTW, you mount those 19mm rollers on wrong holes.
Follow this guide.
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Any reason why need to make it narrower? Faster turning time?
nk3371
post Dec 4 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(mudster @ Dec 4 2013, 11:08 AM)
Any reason why need to make it narrower? Faster turning time?
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Simply because of following the official Tamiya rules.
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Read more here : http://www.tamiya.com/english/mini4wd/regulation.htm

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post Dec 4 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(mudster @ Dec 4 2013, 11:08 AM)
Any reason why need to make it narrower? Faster turning time?
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Tamiya Mini 4WD rules :
Maximum Car Width: Under 105mm
Overall Car Height: Under 70mm
Overall Car Length: Under 165mm
Minimum Ground Clearance: At least 1mm
Minimum Car Weight (including batteries and motor): At least 90g
Front and Rear Tires: Diameter: 22-35mm, Width: 8-26mm (Note that tires must be attached.)
Rollers: Maximum of 6 installations total (double rollers count as 1 installation. Stabilizer poles and mass dampers do not count at all)
Mass Dampers: Mass damper may not extend from the sides beyond the line formed by the guide roller poles.
Parts that combine a guide roller with a mass damper will count as 1 roller installation.
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post Dec 4 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(r00n @ Dec 4 2013, 08:52 AM)
been searching for this azente.
where can order it bro?
best price please~  icon_rolleyes.gif
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if you seriously interested..you can drop me a PM...

i will never sell mine...but i will give you lobang where i buy it rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Dec 4 2013, 11:56 AM

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Anybody using tappered double rollers? Is the tappered design really that significant?
ashrafrahman
post Dec 4 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(r00n @ Dec 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
anyone here provide trimming tyre service?
last night tried myself,
using the driller & cut the tyre little by little.
hancur musnah tayar itu sad.gif
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That sounded harsh cry.gif sweat.gif

what type of tire of u trimmed?
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post Dec 4 2013, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(r00n @ Dec 4 2013, 09:49 AM)
anyone here provide trimming tyre service?
last night tried myself,
using the driller & cut the tyre little by little.
hancur musnah tayar itu sad.gif
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u can try going daiso and buying something called mesh file (or something like that )

QUOTE(r00n @ Dec 4 2013, 09:52 AM)
been searching for this azente.
where can order it bro?
best price please~  icon_rolleyes.gif
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expext to pay a high price for it though ,

QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 4 2013, 11:56 AM)
Anybody using tappered double rollers? Is the tappered design really that significant?
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if i remember correctly , based on the intsructions that came with it , something to prevent the car tipping over or something when cornering . '
ashrafrahman
post Dec 4 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 3 2013, 08:31 PM)
One thing I really don't understand about online tutorials teaching people to soak bearings into zippo liquid.

Zippo liquid does not have lubricant nor protection properties. It makes ball bearing dry and it could cause wear out bearings.

And also breaking in motors, also by soaking it into zippo liquid, or filling in lubes in the whole motor. There is no touching parts besides the contacts inside a dynamo, unlike cylinder based engines.

So I'm really skeptical.

People please explain to me. Tq.
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this might sound too educational and boring, so ignore this if u hate chemistry sweat.gif

basically, zippo liquid is scientifically known/made using naphtha...lightest/most volatile fraction type of hydrocarbon liqiud from petroleum.

In contact with metal, this type of liquid may prevent oxidation of iron - process known as Inhibitor/Corrosion inhibitor.

It's not seeable to naked eyes, but the present of air n oxygen, iron/metal tend to oxidize = rust = extra friction

It's not lubricant but it works to smooth/clean the surface of ball bearing as it's an anti-oxide subtance.

In fact, this is used as cleaning solution for watches parts during servicing (different brand/type, not zippo liquid la).

I guess there are many other ways to smoothen ball bearing and IMO, logically using zippo liquid is kinda acceptable.

correct me if I'm wrong.

Friendly reminder: Please use this product with extra precaution. It has lots of side effect when come into contact with human skin. Do not attempt to drink/swallow/inhale the liquid.


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post Dec 4 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(ashrafrahman @ Dec 4 2013, 03:26 PM)
this might sound too educational and boring, so ignore this if u hate chemistry  sweat.gif

basically, zippo liquid is scientifically known/made using naphtha...lightest/most volatile fraction type of hydrocarbon liqiud from petroleum.

In contact with metal, this type of liquid may prevent oxidation of iron - process known as Inhibitor/Corrosion inhibitor.

It's not seeable to naked eyes, but the present of air n oxygen, iron/metal tend to oxidize = rust = extra friction

It's not lubricant but it works to smooth/clean the surface of ball bearing as it's an anti-oxide subtance.

In fact, this is used as cleaning solution for watches parts during servicing (different brand/type, not zippo liquid la).

I guess there are many other ways to smoothen ball bearing and IMO, logically using zippo liquid is kinda acceptable.

correct me if I'm wrong.

Friendly reminder: Please use this product with extra precaution. It has lots of side effect when come into contact with human skin. Do not attempt to drink/swallow/inhale the liquid.
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I would accept it as a substance to clean metal.
But most people just follow others, so they don't really understand the after effect.
To me, any moving parts especially metal/iron that makes contact needs to be lubricated to ensure its lifespan.
Zippo liquid cleans bearings, but afterwards it also creates friction and could wear out the ball bearing.
But I guess ball bearings are cheap to replace, so it doesn't matter to most people.

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 4 2013, 03:40 PM)
I would accept it as a substance to clean metal.
But most people just follow others, so they don't really understand the after effect.
To me, any moving parts especially metal/iron that makes contact needs to be lubricated to ensure its lifespan.
Zippo liquid cleans bearings, but afterwards it also creates friction and could wear out the ball bearing.
But I guess ball bearings are cheap to replace, so it doesn't matter to most people.
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hehehe...cheap to replace? hmm.gif that's depend on indi. pocket size

care to share your method?

I do soak my bearings in zippo liquid for cleaning, then spray with SC 99 and apply some singer oil to it (don't know any cheap lubricant yet - newbies tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(ShinKen @ Dec 3 2013, 08:06 PM)
woooo! sorry for the late reply. was away for KLIMS. only managed to score Top 80. I lost trying to qualify to Top 50 to Jai (of Speed Houz). His car is a speed demon  sweat.gif  all-out massive respect to Jai. KLIMS was intense! great layout. format was Semi 'yang terlebih' Speed. designed by Dasa. thank you Dasa! best gila  rclxm9.gif
crowd was great too! the cheering and everything was plain mad and fun.

btw, back to the topic. is MA as easy to tune as MS? I broke like 3 nose units of MS in less than 4 weeks playing hahaha. everytime I break the nose unit, I learned a new way to reinforce it. good learning process, bad for my wallet though.
but, MS is soooo easy to tune for Semi Tech & Semi Speed la. too easy makes it boring sikit. is it the same for MA? I mean, is it easy to tune? if it is, I wanna pindah to VS or Super 2 pulak.
I find Super 2 is a cheaper chassis to work on with compared to MS.
e.g : RM 25 = 2 Sets of Super 2 Chassis (RM 12.50 for a chassis)

.....but for MS is as follows
RM 20 (for normal black coloured Nose & Tail unit) or RM 33 (for red reinforced N04 / T04) or RM 33 (for bumperless LED Nose & Tail)
+
RM 20 (for lightweight centre)
= RM 40 - RM 73 for only 1 set  rclxub.gif

in a nutshell, it's RM27.50 - RM 60.50 difference in price per chassis comparing MS with Super 2  sweat.gif
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color chassis quality is different, it's softer compare normal from the box.

MS used to have color chassis too, it show you are still new~~it come 2 in 1 pack...full chassis(center+nose and parts).

MS is more upgradeable, and more fun... as for me MA is easy as MS, but the launching speed is a bit slower due to it weight.

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