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Aiko-chan
post Dec 20 2011, 08:48 PM

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Totally agree with u Aiko-chan....but 1 thing that im not agreed is savannah not available in Malaysia...try google for Forestwood cattery own by Mr. Samy the lawyer lol...he do own a pair of serval plus producing his own line of pedigree serval...Mr thomas oii also have one if im not mistaken.interested on serval?make sure u really have a deep pocket...if im not mistaken RM35k/tail comes with licence.Malaysia have savanah breeder in sabah...try google the website(i forgot the cattery name lol)..FiFe recognize bengal as a pedigree breed,the same as TICA...so for me its still ok CFA doesnt except bengal as a Pedigree breed..every breed have their own speciality & personality..so make sure which one satify your need...But some local cattery a fussy...very leceh to deal one...so good luck to anyone who try to get their own pedigree cat.sometime i not really blaming any cattery about the pricing on their cat..some breed are rare and not totally establish in Malaysia...so try to compare the price from local cattery and overseas cattery..maybe local cattery cheaper around 1-3k than overseas.of course la,they buy the parentage in overseas price...or some of it come from champion line(CH,QCH as example.)...Like Bengals...most cattery in Malaysia(but not all)registered as The International Bengal Cat Society (TIBCS) and tie on TIBCS Code Of Ethics..but yeah,human can fake almost everything...so choose well from which cattery your future kitten will come from..not just based from the price..but the quality and health factor.(very kesian la cat been keep as a breeding machine).

Serval + Domestic or Bengal = Savanah ( F1 )
Asian Leopard Cat + Domestic = Bengal ( F1 )

ps: (sorry for my broken English... whistling.gif )
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Serious? Because so far I've yet to see any savannah in shows or in local cat fancy pages, my friends does not know much about any available savannah cattery/owner so I assumed that it's not legal yet to own one here. Yeah I know about the pricing for savannah. Even in US itself it cost minimum 10k USD each.
Well, majority well known breed are acknowledge by CFA, so cattery only register them under CFA but not in other association. Do we have TICA association locally?
Indeed, pick breed that suits your lifestyle is the most important thing. Like if decide to get a long hair cat, need to have the commitment to groom them at least once a week. Short hair cat need lesser grooming but if you have a very vocal and active cat like Siamese, need to keep them accompanied or entertained. Else the cat like you buy back home, give them a bigger cage to live only. =(
Cattery being fussy also is a good thing what, that shows how much their care about their babies. So far the ones I've dealt with and know are pretty much really nice people. I do update status of the cat from time to time, so I think they don't bother much for me? Lololol. Cattery litter's price are totally not complain-able. Think about the amount they spent to import a cat, all the trip to vet, vaccination, taking care of the litters, are all not easy. The effort spent in order to ensure the quality and health are priceless. Paying that amount is pretty much just giving them a little credit for what they've done and some extra for future planning. Most breeder do cattery as a hobby, but not business. ~__~ Which is why it's important to look for a reputable breeder. Boycott backyard breeder!

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post Dec 20 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Aiko-chan @ Dec 20 2011, 08:48 PM)
Serious? Because so far I've yet to see any savannah in shows or in local cat fancy pages, my friends does not know much about any available savannah cattery/owner so I assumed that it's not legal yet to own one here. Yeah I know about the pricing for savannah. Even in US itself it cost minimum 10k USD each.
Well, majority well known breed are acknowledge by CFA, so cattery only register them under CFA but not in other association. Do we have TICA association locally?
Indeed, pick breed that suits your lifestyle is the most important thing. Like if decide to get a long hair cat, need to have the commitment to groom them at least once a week. Short hair cat need lesser grooming but if you have a very vocal and active cat like Siamese, need to keep them accompanied or entertained. Else the cat like you buy back home, give them a bigger cage to live only. =(
Cattery being fussy also is a good thing what, that shows how much their care about their babies. So far the ones I've dealt with and know are pretty much really nice people. I do update status of the cat from time to time, so I think they don't bother much for me? Lololol. Cattery litter's price are totally not complain-able. Think about the amount they spent to import a cat, all the trip to vet, vaccination, taking care of the litters, are all not easy. The effort spent in order to ensure the quality and health are priceless. Paying that amount is pretty much just giving them a little credit for what they've done and some extra for future planning. Most breeder do cattery as a hobby, but not business. ~__~ Which is why it's important to look for a reputable breeder. Boycott backyard breeder!
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again i agree with you...hehehe...MCFA registered under TICA....they organizing event link to TICA in Malaysia.like my cat,they are super duper active player...24hours wanna play only...hahaha...sometime they kiss me when i asleep..lol...About pricing issue,you get for what u pay....anyway for me i love anybreed of cat,either pedigree,dsh,dlh...i love them all...Bengal are my 4 years dream...finally i have them on my own...aiming for ALC after relocated to new house that suite to my hobby and Special Permit Requirement...i rescue a baby ALC before..keeping them a few month then giving them back to Perhilitan...what can i say is,ALC are so very clever,intellingent and beautiful creature..i hope i can get them back to my family.hehehe..google up for Malaysia savanah & serval owner..Malaysia up to date too...lololol
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post Dec 21 2011, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Dec 20 2011, 09:38 PM)
again i agree with you...hehehe...MCFA registered under TICA....they organizing event link to TICA in Malaysia.like my cat,they are super duper active player...24hours wanna play only...hahaha...sometime they kiss me when i asleep..lol...About pricing issue,you get for what u pay....anyway for me i love anybreed of cat,either pedigree,dsh,dlh...i love them all...Bengal are my 4 years dream...finally i have them on my own...aiming for ALC after relocated to new house that suite to my hobby and Special Permit Requirement...i rescue a baby ALC before..keeping them a few month then giving them back to Perhilitan...what can i say is,ALC are so very clever,intellingent and beautiful creature..i hope i can get them back to my family.hehehe..google up for Malaysia savanah & serval owner..Malaysia up to date too...lololol
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Owh! I've previously seen MCFA exhibition at Sunway, but when I asked what association are they under, they don't want to tell me. >___>;;

I have 3 cats living together, so they pretty much still can accompany each other. ~_~ Another 2 more cats with my mom and my bf each. My bf's cat very attention whore, but kesian her when my bf go to work, no one teman her. >__<

I was very into Coon previously, but since I've obtained one, I'm aiming for a Raggie next. XDD
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post Dec 22 2011, 01:28 PM

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There are NO savannah cat available or savannah cattery in Malaysia yet! Samy, Thomas Ooi and Kittunkatz do have Serval/s but owning serval and producing savannah are totally different matter. I assume they tried to produce savannah but till now to no avail. Just imagine trying to mate a domestic cat with serval which is 3 times bigger than domestic cat!
As for the Sabah's breeder (http://malsavannahs.blogspot.com/), it's not operational yet as they're only planning to bring in Savannah (not serval) direct from US & UK, not by mating serval and domestic cat like Samy, Ooi & Kittun tried.
As for savannah legal issue, i think it shud be similar to Bengals as they are not really wild animal but a hybrid but it's still in grey area for Perhilitan as there are no savannah in M'sia yet!
For Beowulf, dont think you'll ever get a permit to keep ALC as they strictly stated in their FB that permit for ALC are ONLY given to registered organisation such as zoos, parks, research ctr etc. You are 2 years late coz i know someone who did get the permit for ALC by bribing perhilitan officer BUT since the Anson Wong scandal followed by a number of perhilitan officers picked up by BPR, it's impossible. But i think there's still a way...the same way as Samy & kitunkatz get their permit for Servals... by importing them... the main reason perhilitan didn't give permit to individual is bcoz to protect the wildlife in M'sia, so if you import them, it's totally different story...
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post Dec 22 2011, 03:33 PM

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Hi all.. Just wanna ask.. Which one's better.. Orijen or Evo? Thanks in advance..
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post Dec 22 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(qaf1010 @ Dec 22 2011, 03:33 PM)
Hi all.. Just wanna ask.. Which one's better.. Orijen or Evo? Thanks in advance..
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Orijen. it won Petfood of the year award by some petfood research industries or something for 3 consecutive years...
Both brand are super premium grain-free catfood which are very good. Evo have more meat but orijen are better overall.
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post Dec 22 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(AXMONZA @ Dec 22 2011, 03:44 PM)
Orijen. it won Petfood of the year award by some petfood research industries or something for 3 consecutive years...
Both brand are super premium grain-free catfood which are very good. Evo have more meat but orijen are better overall.
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Great! I just ordered from a seller in KL cos I can't find Orijen here in Kuching.. Currently I give RC & Blackwood for my cats.. But after reading various cat's forums, I guess I should give Orijen a shot..
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post Dec 22 2011, 05:00 PM

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Hey, you guys know any pet shelter home near Puchong, Seri Kembangan or Dengkil area?
I picked up a stray cat and wanna send him to a nearby shelter home, but SPCA or PAWS are just too far for me.

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post Dec 22 2011, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Dec 20 2011, 09:38 PM)
again i agree with you...hehehe...MCFA registered under TICA....they organizing event link to TICA in Malaysia.like my cat,they are super duper active player...24hours wanna play only...hahaha...sometime they kiss me when i asleep..lol...About pricing issue,you get for what u pay....anyway for me i love anybreed of cat,either pedigree,dsh,dlh...i love them all...Bengal are my 4 years dream...finally i have them on my own...aiming for ALC after relocated to new house that suite to my hobby and Special Permit Requirement...i rescue a baby ALC before..keeping them a few month then giving them back to Perhilitan...what can i say is,ALC are so very clever,intellingent and beautiful creature..i hope i can get them back to my family.hehehe..google up for Malaysia savanah & serval owner..Malaysia up to date too...lololol
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Hi sorry to interrupt. But MCFA has been banned by TICA, so now they are not having any license to make a show under TICA. That why the show at Sunway Pyramid recently they did not mention which register they are with. The show at Sunway Pyramid recently only a fun show not pedigree show.

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post Dec 22 2011, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(AXMONZA @ Dec 22 2011, 01:28 PM)
There are NO savannah cat available or savannah cattery in Malaysia yet! Samy, Thomas Ooi and Kittunkatz do have Serval/s but owning serval and producing savannah are totally different matter. I assume they tried to produce savannah but till now to no avail. Just imagine trying to mate a domestic cat with serval which is 3 times bigger than domestic cat!
As for the Sabah's breeder (http://malsavannahs.blogspot.com/), it's not operational yet as they're only planning to bring in Savannah (not serval) direct from US & UK, not by mating serval and domestic cat like Samy, Ooi & Kittun tried.
As for savannah legal issue, i think it shud be similar to Bengals as they are not really wild animal but a hybrid but it's still in grey area for Perhilitan as there are no savannah in M'sia yet!
For Beowulf, dont think you'll ever get a permit to keep ALC as they strictly stated in their FB that permit for ALC are ONLY given to registered organisation such as zoos, parks, research ctr etc. You are 2 years late coz i know someone who did get the permit for ALC by bribing perhilitan officer BUT since the Anson Wong scandal followed by a number of perhilitan officers picked up by BPR, it's impossible. But i think there's still a way...the same way as Samy & kitunkatz get their permit for Servals... by importing them... the main reason perhilitan didn't give permit to individual is bcoz to protect the wildlife in M'sia, so if you import them, it's totally different story...
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hehehe...im not intend to catch or get them from Malaysia...let the wild remain in wild enviroment,i been thinking to get them from overseas and already have which cattery in mind..they have a very stunning ALC,very nice patterning..come from a very good ALC parentage.i talk to someone who really work in perhilitan,yeah like u said before,there's a way to get it.. a legal way of course...but if i fail to get them ,no problem at all,its still ok...that only my dream..so maybe after having 2 or 3 more bengal then i will re-think about it. im not despreate for money to do massive breeding and selling a kitten..just my passion on bengal cat.everyone have their own view about cat.Hybrid wild sp with domestic sp are illegal based on 716 act..does it mean F1 are totally illegal and need permit to have them?i already talk to several friend in perhilitan,they said its totally illegal,but when i ask about cattery who own ALC for F1 breeding,they cant give any answer lol...they ask me to call HQ about that question... sweat.gif ..anyway thanks axmonza for your info...yehhooo!!...next year gonna have 1 more bengal to come...this time it gonna be from far away.....Insyallah!... rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(chrono_breaks @ Dec 22 2011, 06:54 PM)
Hi sorry to interrupt. But MCFA has been banned by TICA, so now they are not having any license to make a show under TICA. That why the show at Sunway Pyramid recently they did not mention which register they are with. The show at Sunway Pyramid recently only a fun show not pedigree show.
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shocking.gif owh ic...i dont know that... sweat.gif so theres no longer any local assocation will organize TICA event in Malaysia? but still can go watch great cat in CFA & Fife event smile.gif biggrin.gif

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That the sad thing, I would love to see a cat from all register in the world having their show in malaysia. So far now we can only see beautiful bengal in FiFe show in Malaysia but sadly the well known bengal breeder in Malaysia have not been in that show. cry.gif
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post Dec 22 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(chrono_breaks @ Dec 22 2011, 07:54 PM)
That the sad thing, I would love to see a cat from all register in the world having their show in malaysia. So far now we can only see beautiful bengal in FiFe show in Malaysia but sadly the well known bengal breeder in Malaysia have not been in that show.  cry.gif
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yea...CFA event i can go watch maine coon,persian and other in action,after this maybe only in Fife show we can see Bengal in ring...do you know why MCFA been banned by TICA?
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post Dec 23 2011, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Dec 22 2011, 07:59 PM)
...do you know why MCFA been banned by TICA?
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Many people have complaint about MCFA president, Ismail Mohd Ali for involving in illegal activities especially regarding pedigree certificate and the complaint have been made to TICA....read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa. Also : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa.
He also owned a pet shop cum clinic BUT with bad reputation, read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?t=2380.
So it's obvious that TICA have acted from the complaints made...
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(AXMONZA @ Dec 23 2011, 01:09 AM)
Many people have complaint about MCFA president, Ismail Mohd Ali for involving in illegal activities especially regarding pedigree certificate and the complaint have been made to TICA....read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa.  Also : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?...&highlight=mcfa.
He also owned a pet shop cum clinic BUT with bad reputation, read this : http://forums.petfinder.my/showthread.php?t=2380.
So it's obvious that TICA have acted from the complaints made...
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owh ic....that bad...so maybe no more future TICA champion cat in Malaysia...that sad...anyway thanks for the info axmonza...
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(raymond_loh @ Dec 22 2011, 05:00 PM)
Hey, you guys know any pet shelter home near Puchong, Seri Kembangan or Dengkil area?
I picked up a stray cat and wanna send him to a nearby shelter home, but SPCA or PAWS are just too far for me.

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Can someone reply on my question? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raymond_loh @ Dec 23 2011, 08:32 AM)
Can someone reply on my question?  laugh.gif
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i think u can put the cat up for adoption at petfinder or at the adoption thread....sory can't help u much
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post Dec 23 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(D_L @ Dec 23 2011, 09:12 AM)
i think u can put the cat up for adoption at petfinder or at the adoption thread....sory can't help u much
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yup..just put in petfinder for adoption...good luck..
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QUOTE(raymond_loh @ Dec 23 2011, 08:32 AM)
Can someone reply on my question?  laugh.gif
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Hi, can put ADS here.

https://www.facebook.com/ktaj0311 to be exact is here :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/263520566997212/ their online adoption house
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post Dec 25 2011, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(demolationz @ Dec 24 2011, 03:36 PM)
Hi, can put ADS here.

https://www.facebook.com/ktaj0311 to be exact is here :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/263520566997212/ their online adoption house
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Thanks for sharing this piece of information :-)

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QUOTE(raymond_loh @ Dec 25 2011, 02:35 AM)
Thanks for sharing this piece of information :-)
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already post the ADS . no worries ^^

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