And sadly it's human nature to want something without putting in any effort.
They'd do everything but change their lifestyle and exercise. Which is why I love the whole concept of fitness and bodybuilding.

Even if you're the richest person on Earth, you can't buy it. Even if you juice you gotta put in some effort. It's a level playing field.

Yup, nicely said bro. It is something you really have to put in effort, time, energy, patience and perseverance to gain it. And it is truly rewarding especially when you worked so hard knowing at the end of the day you'll be gaining better health physically and mentally.

Then you proceed to find out every big guy in your gym actually juices. Facepalm

That's ok as they're in the gym almost everyday putting in effort.
They never went "How do I put on muscle without exercise the easy way?".

There's this one guy that annoys the SHIT outta me, this thin ass sikh guy, I swear he is thin as f*ck, and on the gym's FB site, he posted pics of him with deca. So he's on a cycle, but clearly he's not eating properly because he looks like a flagpole and that's it. And my god, one day he's going to die in the gym, He bench presses with his legs cycling mid air.

Bro juicing alone isn't gonna do any good unless your train balls to the wall. Was chatting with a juicer in my gym the other day and he was complaining all the bars are bent and ff is shit for not replacing them.

I then pointed out his gang was the only ones bending them in the first place lol. Both of us laughed then he said he made a new pr the other day squatting six plates. PER SIDE.

That guy has my respect, juice or not. Hardest working duo in the gym, he and his workout partner

the bars at my gym bent cuz these idiots dropped them on benches instead of the floors. No la, I thought they were natties cuz they weren't big, at least not bigger than me, then they told me they juice -___-

Lots of types of juicers. Too bad the steroid thread was deleted had a good discussion goin on there

the thread was going to hell. So it was a wise move.

How do u guys clean ur shaker bottles? Mine smells like sh!t each time after using it. Especially on ON whey.

clean and rinse with water, dont keep the cap closed afterwards. man should have a sticky on these tiny bits of info so they dont keep getting repeated

the usage of steroids actually really depends. In my point ot view, i will not choose to go on any cycles as the long term effects scare the hell out of me. Theres a guy in my gym that juices. he knows what his doing and i respect him cos his really good in his training too. he just started juicing about a yr ago after training for almost 7 years. These type of guys can be saluted if they use roids. But, theres always a but, guys that juice at the begining without having a proper routine are just screwed up sh*ts. a friend of mine keeps saying that my workout is good but i can never catch up with him cos i am not juicing. i was like wtf ? he keeps braging about juicing. Got really pissed last week and told him on his face straight to **** off.

This post has been edited by shankar_dass93: Nov 28 2011, 12:39 PM

Heh don't be mad brah, this isn't a competition, nor a race. He who perseveres wins the battle with himself.

That said. I am lifting heavier than some I know that are juicing at my gym lol. All you need is to keep your head down and do your shit. If you're doing it right peope will notice. You don't even have to talk. I'm an ass in my gym, not even a sentence spoken sometimes when I'm working out.

That makes 2 of us

add me in as well, lol

You whine a lot don't you? Juicing is a personal choice, do it or don't. And for your info, you need to cut more. Your muscle mass may not be as much as you think it is. You being big might not mean you have a lot of muscle mass. You don't know but maybe apart from juicing those guys have gotten solid training and diet advice too? I'm 40kgs lighter than you yet I lift a lot more than you in all lifts. Do you get what I mean? You have a long, long, long way more to go. You are still young and have a lot of potential. You're just too impatient.

No offense just my 2 cents.

Dude, I'm not whining I'm mentioning about being surprised that they juice. And I know I need to cut, I didn't say my big was muscular , I meant frame wise because there's a guy who competes and juice and yoked up so I was surprised that those guys were juicing too. I know this is a long road, if I am impatient I would have already dropped the whole cutting and persevering thing and just get substances from them. Melforc3 knows exactly how easy it is to get at my gym.

Look I'm trying to step all over anyone ,I know from the start this is a long road to go through, I am not impatient, and never have I been impatient, I do what I need to do, taking as long as I need to do to achieve what I want. I have been taught that way all my life and I wouldn't do any other.

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This post has been edited by darklight79: Nov 28 2011, 04:21 PM

The second quote was because we were just messing around talking and the third was me being surprised. Dude , come on.

But you still have a grudge deep inside. I know how that feels because I used to have that too.