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darklight79
post Feb 5 2012, 08:02 PM

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I'm benching 1 kg.
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post Feb 5 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Feb 5 2012, 08:08 PM)
Using a single hair on your head.
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No i don't bench so it's considered 1kg. Lol. All machines.
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post Feb 12 2012, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Feb 11 2012, 07:56 PM)
Good read on Whey and milk that spike your insulin.

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/whey-m...ulin-and-sleep/
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Lol, which is why i never take milk and whey no more.
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post Feb 13 2012, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(theCrab @ Feb 12 2012, 11:03 PM)
going back to animal pak
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In the grand scheme of things, whatever multivite doesn't matter. You should just stick to OT. More than 90% of the trainees here do not need Animal Pak. I've been experimenting with a decent generic multivite and have found no difference at all in my training.
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post Feb 20 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Feb 19 2012, 09:53 PM)
Anyone tried out Kris Gethin's 12 week program? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(harris92 @ Feb 19 2012, 11:42 PM)
I am, week 4 now. But I only follow the workouts, and not the diet though.
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QUOTE(egyprince @ Feb 20 2012, 01:45 PM)
I m watching the video too. I get a lot of info there. Too bad I m working now which make it impossible for me to follow d program. Too bad.
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Training 5-6 days a week, -12 hours per workout, not having fun dieting, adhering strictly to certain supplements which are an advertizing scheme..... you guys really enjoy this??
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post Feb 24 2012, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Feb 24 2012, 07:36 PM)
1 hand 1 barbell!


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Watch me carry 2 hookah's with each hand and smoke 'em too later. How's THAT biatch!
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post Feb 25 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Feb 25 2012, 01:49 PM)
I would've posted, but I don't want to bring it back to the first page and end up giving him publicity.
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Too late.
1. I beat you to it.
2. I couldn't resist
3. I'm an *******.
4. But I was kinda polite.


Added on February 25, 2012, 3:20 pm
QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Feb 24 2012, 09:38 PM)
Hey guys, im facing a serious problem now. Started cutting for about 2 months and managed to drop around 7 kgs ( from 97kgs to 90kgs). Right now i'm still on the same weight and its hard to drop. I tried reducing my food intake and yes i did drop a bit (88.5kgs) but once i continued to eat normally, my weight increased back to 90kgs. Any advice ?
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I'm having that problem too. Remember a typical trainee usually overestimates his caloric expenditure.

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Lol damn. I really wanna post more but pity him la. That machine can work I guess but at least he's not giving false hopes to customers.
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post Feb 26 2012, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Feb 25 2012, 11:20 PM)
Just wondering whether 40/40/20 is the best option. hmm.gif
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Cyclical diets are more fun.
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QUOTE(theCrab @ Feb 26 2012, 12:57 AM)
you mean..pork fat and burgers? XD
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I'm not trying to achieve keto. But if keto state comes as a tangential effect, even better.
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post Feb 26 2012, 09:07 AM

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Obsession?
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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Feb 26 2012, 11:35 PM)
During cutting should I concentrate on lower calorie food or cut down on the carbohydrate (especially higher GI) ?
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Minimize fat intake on workout days but go high or moderate carbs. Go higher fat, low to moderate carbs on rest and cardio days. protein high on both days. why? carbs cos insulin spike. insulin is a fat storage hormones. insulin blunts fat oxidation and lipolysis. you want spikes on workout days, not all the time.
carbs are not your enemy. carbs are your enemy when you go loco on them all the time everyday. carbs are also your enemy if you avoid them too much eg. going too low all the time.

eat more protein, you burn more protein.
eat more carbs, you burn more carbs.
eat more fat, you burn more fat.

do something stupid like high protein, too low carbs and too low fat, you will retain fat because excessive protein also blunts fat oxidation.

summary, don't do anything stupid.

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Feb 27 2012, 12:47 AM)
Lol, you should organize a gathering and tell everyone there what you told me today, seriously good info. Learnt a lot today
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post Feb 27 2012, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Feb 27 2012, 01:13 AM)
ugh. i'll try to make it. what time?
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6-7ish
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post Feb 27 2012, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Feb 27 2012, 11:18 AM)
Another thing , not all fat and carbs are created equal , gotta eat the right carbs and fats
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Lol I've come to a point where I don't give a f***. If it's fat and fills my macros I hentam only. Pork fat, bacon, cheeseburgers whatever. But yeah beginners please don't follow. I've been doing this some time cos I know how my body works.


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QUOTE(ZintanthraX @ Feb 27 2012, 01:19 AM)
what if i combine my cardio with work out? the carbs should be high or low?

and is it better if i separate my cardio days with work out days?
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Your choice.

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post Feb 28 2012, 12:34 AM

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you see... I'm giving the bare,bare basics. dark seifer, I have mentioned many times that whey causes insulin spike. Finer points are already hard on an average trainee because some don't have basics right. I'm curious, you seem to know quite a bit about nutrition too. I would like to request a progress pic from you. I'm confident you practice what you preach. this is a sincere request. I'm sure a lot of members would like to see it too.

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 28 2012, 02:09 AM)
Why didn't you keep it simple then? The dude asked about cutting and you made no mention of, fat loss is down to caloric restriction, which is as basic as you can get. I agree with your recommendations about higher carb, lower fat on workout days and opposite on rest days. It makes sense for optimum performance. However the assertions you made about insulin is not entirely correct or without proper context, which is what I disagreed with.

There are many people who reads the posts in this forum, and when information is presented badly, others will be thinking "shit! i'm doing it wrong, i have to fix this". Then they're going to change what could be a pattern that works very well for them based on that information.

As far as pics is concerned, the reason I don't post pics is to keep my anonymity. I don't see that pattern breaking anytime soon.
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What the rest said. =) You can always omit your face. I want to see you practice what you preach. we are requesting a progress pic with no face.

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dark seifer. one statement. here at bodybuilding section, pics speak. not keyboard typing.

so. I never said you were wrong or right. I'm just curious. you see, Lyle Mcdonald, Alan aragorn for example are nutritionists but have very decent physiques. they know their nutrition.

you seem to know yours. are you just clever at nitpicking and posting links or do you practice what you preach?
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post Feb 29 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 28 2012, 07:20 PM)
By request of DL.
Inb4, do you even lift?
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Ok la. Boleh tahan. But that's it? Problem is, we ask for a progress pic, you flash a set of abs in black and white for a better effect? I can flash my abs too. Where's a rear lat spread? Something else other than abs.

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post Feb 29 2012, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(darkseifer @ Feb 29 2012, 02:00 AM)
Nothing wrong with manipulating macros. You would be doing that. Fat loss is down to caloric restriction and your macros should reflect that.
Not necessarily.
How did you take a very simple concept and went completely brotard on it.

*My take is, all food had insulin spike (IS)
-Duh! Insulin is elevated in response to meals in healthy individuals.

*what we want to control the amount of insulin spike.
-for what reason? are you diabetic? what makes you think that you can control it enough to have a significant impact? you will need pharmacological doses of insulin through some sort of infusion to have a significant effect on MPS.

*you dont want to take whey together with regular meal.
-why not? what is the composition of said regular meal. do you think your "regular meal" without the whey will have no impact on insulin?

*again when i the best time for a IS is right after workout because you want to also carry all the valuable nutrition for muscle buildings.
-insulin elevation stops muscle protein breakdown, it makes sense. It is something that is usually overblown. A protein sufficient meal itself will exert any anti-catabolic effects. You don't even need mad "insulin spiking" carbs.

*There problem here is, all this analogical method doesnt work for everyone everytime, meaning it defers from a beginner to seasoned lifter and to a lean person.
-what the hell is that gibberish supposed to mean? General methods work across the board, only the finer points differ.

*A very lean person like DL, do not need to care much because the energy burned w/i 24hrs way much greater compared to a beginner and high fat person (~>20%bf).
-Maybe because DL is beast carrying an insane amount of LBM, therefore making his energy needs high. What is your point exactly?

*generally I keep my intake intact with
protein: meat,, milk, egg, nuts
carb: rice, nuts
fat: from all the raw oils and nuts
-lol, that looks extremely boring and unpalatable. you trying to be hardcore?

*i think supplements are overrated for general population.
-depends on what supplements we are talking about. Is fish oil overrated? Is creatine overrated? Don't make blanket statements.
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I still consider myself fat. =( If I hit 6 percent I'm happy and reasonably lean.


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