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❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V10 ❤, , SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?
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K3nnYkl82
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Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(T630 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:32 PM) i'm in...  T630 .... for manual another gang ... price for the rom is quite cheap .. 300 only ... (i can confirm currently proton have 3 diff rom only .. 1.8 mt .. 1.8 cvt .. and 2.0 Cvt..) manual got 4 ppl interested jo ... much better response... according to those whom did it .. not malaysia la Added on October 31, 2011, 5:34 pmQUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 31 2011, 05:32 PM) Oooo... but I need at least 30HP increase! haha.. u cant get 30bhp with ECU reflash la .. This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Oct 31 2011, 05:34 PM
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Pip_X
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Oct 31 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:30 PM) hahaha .. okok RPW .. engine ECU reflash .. easily gain 5 ~ 10bhp .. what need to do .. download 1 .. 2.0 CVT rom.. send over to them.. they return those AFR.. fuel mapping .. mivec timing slightly .. u get 5 ~ 10bhp .. if there is enuf ppl .. maybe we can do group buy ... (we cannot let RPW know we pay 1 .. but share many ) .. lol .. so 1 ppl represent .. tats all .. Price is around 300 +/- .. if got enuf ppl share share .. maybe can sponsor my cable .. so all flashing free for this tuning .. hehe But I think FC will be a bit worse. How about the auto-lock thingie? Anyway, I'm in for this wroom wroom thing.
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runemastertan
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Oct 31 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM) T630 .... for manual another gang ... price for the rom is quite cheap .. 300 only ... (i can confirm currently proton have 3 diff rom only .. 1.8 mt .. 1.8 cvt .. and 2.0 Cvt..) manual got 4 ppl interested jo ... much better response... according to those whom did it .. not malaysia la Added on October 31, 2011, 5:34 pmhaha.. u cant get 30bhp with ECU reflash la .. Kenny, I am interested too, but I am in Penang. Any cons so far from those who reflash their ECU?
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T630
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Oct 31 2011, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(XCInspire @ Oct 31 2011, 05:32 PM) Oooo... but I need at least 30HP increase! go for na tune bro...
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sleed
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Oct 31 2011, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Oct 31 2011, 04:23 PM) https://www.facebook.com/ProtonGenuineParts Added on October 31, 2011, 4:26 pmnot the same...ours is JATCO CVT, saga 1 is PUNCH CVT. our CVT use torque converter, Punch 1 uses start up clutch. Torque converter more power loss but much more reliable. Browse the FLX thread, apparently there were some problems with the initial batch of CVT, Proton oh Proton, u just cant blame mitsu for not allowing them to touch anything. A hit to Proton's reputation but good for us Inspira owners, everything is as per lancer.  saw ur query there. i give them one good question. the oil filter... hahaha..... let them see how they reply to my question..
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Poadster
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Oct 31 2011, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(desertkids @ Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM) E92 can tapau golf GTI...i try b4.pick up they win, bt start from 100-200km/h they will lose..bt inspira i doubt cn do it o nt??  Can la.... need to use paddle to maintain the RPM to be constantly in the 5500-6200 range.... just to maintain and follow, 4B11 wont be able to overtake them... If use D mode all the way, CVT will lose out very badly....
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T630
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Oct 31 2011, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Oct 31 2011, 05:40 PM) Can la.... need to use paddle to maintain the RPM to be constantly in the 5500-6200 range.... just to maintain and follow, 4B11 wont be able to overtake them... If use D mode all the way, CVT will lose out very badly.... haha... double tap kaki
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ckk125
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Oct 31 2011, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 04:59 PM) CKK .. they cant answer my question ..  haha..maybe 2molo...
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K3nnYkl82
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Oct 31 2011, 05:57 PM
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No issue with modded ecu. Tuning not try yet. But world wide many ppl did by RPW. I think we gather see how many interested and split up the cost If every1 ok then only proceed.
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Poadster
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Oct 31 2011, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(T630 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:54 PM) haha... double tap kaki  Errrr.... its double tap FINGERS....
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T630
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Oct 31 2011, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Poadster @ Oct 31 2011, 06:17 PM) knew u would say that... check this out guys... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « NA Tuning --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IMO, NA tuning is a little harder than forced induction cos the gains are not as impressive! The typical NA street racer would be FW drive, and variable timing/lift engines like VTEC, MIVEC and VVTL-i. Other NA tuning types would be the high end RW drive cars like BMW M3 with variable timing/lift (double VANOS) with individual throttle control butterflies. Another would be the kit cars from Westfield and Caterham using motorcycle engines with sequential gearchange! The inspiration of NA tuning will be based on the following great NA cars (IMO); Honda Integra Type R (DC model/B18C) and Renault Clio Cup Sports (172 bhp). Both these car manufacturers have had F1 experience and their influence are seen on both cars. ITR incorporates leading edge technology while the Clio Cup feature tremendous packaging at a terrific price.
1. ENGINE BREATHING The usual mods apply like cone-type air filter with cold air feed/pressurized air flow and exhaust headers (4-1 or 4-2-1) with straight through system. Headers should have long primary pipes before joining together for the secondary pipe system. Longer primary pipes create a vacuum effect which extract the waste gases and create a vacuum effect drawing in the induction charge! That is why some guys called headers as 'extractors'. Personally, I prefer 4-2-1 systems for street use but then ITR uses a 4-1 system. BTW, I understand there is no gain from a aftermarket pod filter for ITR cos the OEM system is already very good.
2. ECU/CAMSHAFT These 2 items need to be matched to optimized performance. The cam profile must be matched with ECU fuel map/ignition map. For 40 tiang, best cam profile should be high lift, short duration type (under 300 degrees) with emphasis on quick valve acceleration ie rapid valve opening and closing. Long duration cams (over 300 degrees) are for track racing only cos bottom end/mid range is non-existent. Vacuum effect is very poor when using long duration cams eg. track racers sound very lumpy during idling. Chipping standard ECUs is not a perfect solution. Hardcore racers and SMSC competitors used only ECUs and cams from famous tuners like Mugen, Spoon, Suzuki Sports, etc. Venier/adjustable cam sprockets are also necessary.
3. FUEL MODS Aftermarket bigger capacity fuel rail, injectors and adjustable fuel regulator would be useful fuel mods. Increasing the diameter of your throttle body can also increase power but don't go too big. Also, Civic and GTi owners should change to ITR and Cultus intake manifold. The ultimate would be individual throttle bodies/butterfly system but will have problems with LTA/Insurance Cos. Before EFI cars,installing Webers and Dellortos carburettors with high lift cams were the way to make good power with NA cars in the old days. Weber carbs induction sound was even more garang than VTEC sound! Problem with Webers is that they do go out of tune due to fuel sediments clogging the jets and tubes-that's why old Alfa Romeos need regular tuning or cleaning. EFI cars don't need tuning - only regular cleaning of the injector system. The EFI fuel map don't deviate from the norm! Mechanics tell you that your EFI system need tuning cos they can charge you higher instead of telling you that it just needs cleaning! Ha ha ha!
4. ENGINE WORK Head polishing and porting and changing to bigger valves are not critical for making power in today's NA engines. Those were necessary in the past with the old Mini Cooper S when production tolerances were poor and engines had poor airflow. Today's engines are designed using CAD/CAM tools and infinite analysis and manufactured to very close tolerances. In fact, the VTEC induction ports are a bit big for road use! That is why Spoon Racing offers a intake plate which constricts the port size to increase airflow velocity to improve acceleration! Airflow dynamics depends on sizing - smaller size allows for greater velocity but airflow maxed out faster whereas bigger size allows greater flow capacity but poor velocity which means lousy throttle response at low rpm. For 40 tiang and street racing, the trick is not to go big on induction ports/exhaust ports but match the intake manifold, cylinder ports and exhaust headers for smooth air flow and maximum vacuum effect. Oil catch tank would be useful to reduce crankcase pressure and keep the combustion chamber and spark plugs clean. Higher compression ratios using thinner metal gaskets can also increase power but must be weighted against fuel quality and octane level. You may need octane boosters.
5. CAPACITY INCREASE Torque and HP can be up through capacity increases. VTEC B16A head can be matched to B20 CRV block for 2.0 litre VTEC hybrid engine. Suzuki GTi (G13 engine) can be increased to 1.7 litre using Vitara block and overbore pistons. There are also aftermarket stroker kits but can be very expensive!
6. ENGINE LIGHTENING The most radical mod would be to fully lighten and balance the bottom end. Using lightweight pistons, titanium rods, knife-edged and lighten crank with a competition crank bearing brace - it's the ultimate for 11,000 rpm! Balancing smooths out the small out of tolerance vibrations which affect the performance at high rpm! For top end, changing over to titanium valves/retainers and flat coil double valve springs a-la-ITR would be ultimate.
7. GEARBOX/TRANSMISSION Getting a close ratio gearbox or 1/2/3 close ratio gearsets. The gear ratios and final drive must be matched to extract the greatest power onto the road. Limited slip differential ensures power is laid on the road without time-wasting tyre spins. Lighten flywheel and competition clutch would complete the equation for great acceleration out of the holeshot. Short shift is optional but does marginally improve shift speed for a good driver. Sequential gearshift would be even better for 40 tiang.
8. CHASSIS SHELL IMO, 2 or 3 dr cars are best for 40 tiang racing cos they are lighter and stiffer than 4 dr sedan body. Carbon fibre bonnet and body parts would help lighten body weight while retaining structural integrity. Stripping out the carpets and insulation would help lighten the car further. ITR and Clio Cup uses thinner glass to save weight. You can use persplex panels for rear quarter windows. Lightweight racing seats can also reduce weight. Body kits are a waste of money cos they are a aerodynamic drag and adds weight. BTW, the Spore Lancer MR is a classic example of poor packaging despite boasting a 175 bhp MIVEC engine. Why? The engine power and gear ratios are poorly matched. The FD ratio is far too high for the engine to pull and is further hampered by the added weight of the 4 dr car loaded with sunroof and accessories. The 175 bhp MIVEC engine is suited for 3 dr Colt Mirage body and the JDM-spec engine (Type RZ) comes with a close ratio gearbox with lower FD and LSD. The Mirage MIVEC racing series in Australia had the Mirage lapping a few tenths of a second faster than ITR.
9. FOOTWORK Don't go to big diameter wheels for 40 tiang. They're only good for showing off and not performance. Go for standard diameter instead and light weight wheels ie magnesium/forged/split rims. Playing with rim offset can improve handling with wider track stance. Aftermarket dampers and lowered springs complete the equation here. Gymkhana coil/shock units are the best option but are very expensive.
10. BRAKES AP Racing/Brembo systems are for track racing. They also required you to change up to a bigger wheel diameter. Instead change the brake disc to a slotted performance type and uprate the brake pads, change to DOT5 brake oil and swopped to braided brake hoses. Be careful of drilled brake disc cos they may crack due to higher temperature loading. Another mod to consider is aftermarket templates for the brake hydraulic reservoir.
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nzh0920
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Oct 31 2011, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM) T630 .... for manual another gang ... price for the rom is quite cheap .. 300 only ... (i can confirm currently proton have 3 diff rom only .. 1.8 mt .. 1.8 cvt .. and 2.0 Cvt..) manual got 4 ppl interested jo ... much better response... according to those whom did it .. not malaysia la Added on October 31, 2011, 5:34 pmhaha.. u cant get 30bhp with ECU reflash la .. cult leader, 1.8mt and 1.8 cvt also got different one a?
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stewPik
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Oct 31 2011, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:57 PM) No issue with modded ecu. Tuning not try yet. But world wide many ppl did by RPW. I think we gather see how many interested and split up the cost If every1 ok then only proceed. So far got ppl do ecu reflash for manual yet ? mine is manual, also looking for some upgrades, longterm upgrade waiting for speedworks to finsh their BOT, hehehe...thats the whole reason i choose manual in the 1st place...hehe This post has been edited by stewPik: Oct 31 2011, 07:22 PM
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sleed
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Oct 31 2011, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM) T630 .... for manual another gang ... price for the rom is quite cheap .. 300 only ... (i can confirm currently proton have 3 diff rom only .. 1.8 mt .. 1.8 cvt .. and 2.0 Cvt..) manual got 4 ppl interested jo ... much better response... according to those whom did it .. not malaysia la Added on October 31, 2011, 5:34 pmhaha.. u cant get 30bhp with ECU reflash la .. Ecu flashing also apply to 2.0cvt? If yes, i want to join in
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K3nnYkl82
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Oct 31 2011, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 31 2011, 06:21 PM) cult leader, 1.8mt and 1.8 cvt also got different one a? Bro, 1.8 mt n cvt have the same mapping. But unsure if they (RPW) will give different mapping to maximise the CVT or not. Guys, I'm on mobile now. Later when I got home I post more info on the flashing.
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T630
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Oct 31 2011, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:33 PM) T630 .... for manual another gang ... price for the rom is quite cheap .. 300 only ... (i can confirm currently proton have 3 diff rom only .. 1.8 mt .. 1.8 cvt .. and 2.0 Cvt..) manual got 4 ppl interested jo ... much better response... according to those whom did it .. not malaysia la more... more...
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K3nnYkl82
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Oct 31 2011, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE Mitsubishi Lancer 2008 + Reflashed ECU
Racing Performance Works has spent considerable time working both mechanically and electronically with extensive time being spent on our in house dyno. This has enabled us to find the key area's which make improvements in the Lancer vehicle.
Re flashing factory ECU with OpenEcu Software optimising all applicable maps including the air/fuel ratios, ignition timing, and rev limit. This can provide generous gains in horsepower, torque and most importantly, drive ability and smoothness.
A Flash tune is just that, a generalised Mail order tune with alterations made to specific areas. This has been done to suit the majority of vehicles with minor modifications only, usually the normal items like Extractors, Exhaust and air intake systems. This allows those owners to optimise there vehicle without incurring extensive and costly dyno tuning.
(A) Basic Flash Tune
This Basic flash tune has been designed to suit the majority of lightly modified vehicles. The purpose is to improve fuel economy, torque and power, without requiring checking on a dyno. This is suitable for all model vehicles. Specific tweaks to the factory mapping is outlined below
* Increase RPM limiter by 250 rpm * Remove the speed limiter setting * Minor tweak of the Air Fuel Ratio's to lean out vehicle slightly to approx 13 : 1 under power * Minor tweak of ignition maps with an increase on average of 2 degrees timing * Minor tweak of the Mivec maps for increase throttle response at low rpm * Minor tweak of the Drive By Wire Maps to improve throttle response
The average gains with this tweaked map is approximate 5 - 10hp at the wheels, depending upon the level of modifications fitted to the vehicle. These modifications are usually the baseline level done for all further advanced tuning.
So guys .. i have highlighted the key points... interested?? sample of tuning dyno as below.....
The picture show a tuned 2.4 @ 4B12... grey line .. is for original torque .. green 1 is the tuned result grey line 2 .. is the HP.. max at 6200 RPM .. around 148hp after tune ... (blue line) ... max HP at 6350 RPM .. around 159 hp 11 / 148 = 7.5% increase..
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satria89
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Oct 31 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 05:30 PM) hahaha .. okok RPW .. engine ECU reflash .. easily gain 5 ~ 10bhp .. what need to do .. download 1 .. 2.0 CVT rom.. send over to them.. they return those AFR.. fuel mapping .. mivec timing slightly .. u get 5 ~ 10bhp .. if there is enuf ppl .. maybe we can do group buy ... (we cannot let RPW know we pay 1 .. but share many ) .. lol .. so 1 ppl represent .. tats all .. Price is around 300 +/- .. if got enuf ppl share share .. maybe can sponsor my cable .. so all flashing free for this tuning .. hehe Available for 2.0? If yes...I'm in..but do let me know the cost first hehe and my ride just reaching 1k km soon,what fully are recommended below rm200? Old klang road proton sc can let us bring our own engine oil?the newly opened one...car care auto or something..
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K3nnYkl82
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Oct 31 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(satria89 @ Oct 31 2011, 10:18 PM) Available for 2.0? If yes...I'm in..but do let me know the cost first hehe and my ride just reaching 1k km soon,what fully are recommended below rm200? Old klang road proton sc can let us bring our own engine oil?the newly opened one...car care auto or something.. yes .. planning for 2.0 and 1.8 ...  if RM80 .. okay ga ? if more ppl .. maybe as low as 60 .. This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Oct 31 2011, 10:22 PM
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stewPik
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Oct 31 2011, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 31 2011, 10:20 PM) yes .. planning for 2.0 and 1.8 ...  if RM80 .. okay ga ? if more ppl .. maybe as low as 60 ..  wow...if really this price can do...count me in lor...sure on
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