Between the N9 and Lumia 800, better to choose N9. Malaysia still can't buy WP7 apps so this is a big drawback. Meego buttonless OS is more elegant than WP7 and faster to operate.

To me, a phone camera is just for record shots. For important holiday shots use a proper camera like a DSLR with a good lens. It's not easy to hold a camera phone and press the shutter without shake. When the light gets tricky even an N8 will fail.

For the record, Lumia camera is worse than N9.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Oct 31 2011, 09:55 PM

Guess what? eBuddy, an app similar like Whatsapp will be made available inside N9 soon

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/10/31/ebuddy-d...okia-platforms/

This post has been edited by drexar: Oct 31 2011, 10:35 PM

An app very unsimilar to Whatsapp.

The media downloader, is it an app like cute tube? The developer for cutetube now working on improving the N9 media player

eBuddy XMS - http://www.ebuddyxms.com/



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eBuddy XMS somewhat not the usual eBuddy we knew

Nokia says white N9 coming in 64GB model first

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Guys, check this out. I've emailed Viber team about their plans to support MeeGo and here's their reply:



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Viber have very dedicated personnel.
Even in Android section, they have a thread just to track down any issues bugs or anything.

Whatsapp's dominance will be challenged soon if they are so selective on what platforms that want to port. They will not port to Bada or Meego. Samsung has created their own free cross-platform IM app called Chat-On in response to Whatsapp refusal to port to Bada.

Yup, still favor more towards MeeGo definitely, but if Lumnia 800 is launch anytime soon, no harm to take a look and compare first (if I still haven't get my N9). But I don't really like WP7 somehow, it feels very plain, don't know how to explain.

I seldom use phone camera too, just it come in handy when you don't have your DSLR; but usually I take indoor, which is kind of lowlight, take kids moving somemore, which the handphone camera don't work well. Well, if not particular with the noise and low quality, still ok "lah".

My experience with N8 is it produce more blur from movement of subject in lowlight, but N9 seems to be able to capture the movement better with less blur. I did experiment yesterday for the review again, I found that... both have same minimum shutter speed in auto mode, it goes as low as 1/15 @ manual ISO800 (EV+2). To get slower shutter speed, I use Night Mode, which down to a minimum of 1/5 @ manual ISO800 (EV+2).
However, I notice something weird with N8, if I use AUTO ISO, the display is brighter and the output is brighter (sometimes lower ISO too), seems it have different brightness setting. Didn't really test in detail, just hate when the camera decide for you, the settings isn't consistent when using Auto mode; and EV adjustment seems have no effect in low light, probably it already hit the limit.
Anyone managed to get slower shutter? I also read somewhere that N8 ISO can go over 1000, but didn't managed to get any pic with ISO exceed 800 in auto ISO mode.
As for the blur movement, I check the specs of N9, there's this "Automatic Blur Reduction" feature, I suppose it help to reduce the motion blur, and possibly that the N9 have less shutter lag (but didn't know how to properly test and determine this, might need to find the specs for it; or does anyone know)?
Finally, N8 took longer time to process the image, after taking a shot, it'll process the image which will delay. Focusing in N9 is slower, but it allows you to take a shot without focusing/re-focus, means you can continue to tap the shutter after you focus previously and take shot continuously; while N8, can't do that, everytime you press the shutter, it will re-focus and capture (whether it acquire or did not acquire focus successfully).

Lumia not using same camera module as N9? But anyway, I find the Flash position on Lumia awkward.

New music player for N9 with 10 band graphic equalizer.

http://store.ovi.com/content/213179

Now, how is Meego-Harmattan a dead os when there are such talented enthusiasts creating great apps for it? I come from Samsung Bada and there is no alternative music player to date after almost 1.5 years.

They call it dead because MeeGo project is abandoned, now Intel works with Samsung on Tizen?
However Nokia claim they will continue to support and bring software updates to it.

As for apps, it doesn't matter the OS is dead or not, apps doesn't rely of OS alive or dead, haha. It rely on the popularity and users, especially for paid apps, it needs more potential "customers".
N900 has tons of great and useful apps, powerful media player (kmplayer, SiB, etc), powerful paint app, powerful browsers (even Chrome), have desktop class java can run applets... can install NetBean development tools... FCam (powerful camera app with manual controls)... most powerful and customizable widgets you can get in smartphone history... all that FOR FREEEEEE.... The OS is dead since long ago, but it doesn't stop the community to provide tons of amazing and great apps, they even provide community software updates continuing to support.

Actually I think apps are more important than os upgrades Andy. Provided of course the os is already reasonably complete and polished. Users will get interested and excited with new apps which push the functionality of their phones even if the os is stagnant.

For example take Windows os. Microsoft has to keep pushing out new versions to make money but how many people will bother if it is stuck on Win XP provided new software and software updates keep coming?

The N900 could go living but but it is already discontinued by Nokia so no choice it has to wind down. But it was never intended to be a mass market product, more an experimental product so it was never promoted or marketed widely by Nokia. But N9 has the potential to be a mass market product.

Whether N9 become a mass market or a niche product will depend on developer support. WebOs died because it failed to attract developers although its os was widely praised. Bada is dying slowly for the same reason. Of course there is always the "chicken and egg" situation with regards to apps, developers and users but the community of Meego developers writing N9/N950 apps with no regards for commercial potential bodes well.

Of course Nokia can just pull the plug on Meego-Harmattan by stopping production on N9 but that's another story.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Nov 1 2011, 03:17 PM

Yup, that's what I said before, OS upgrades isn't really important, as long as the OS is stable and have most of the feature available; But for N900, it's not stable and lacking many features and function, yet it's still living, thanks to the community support for the enhancements and apps. Besides, some people don't even bother to update or know about it, and when they update, they don't even know or check what is the improvement/changes anwyay. Those that always change their device, have even less reason to complain about OS support.

More quality and demanding apps/games will draw more customers, with more customers also means the manufacturer will be more serious about their product. So it's a win-win situation I believe.

I don't think they will pull the plug anytime soon; they just launch it and they need to attract more people to buy it too. I just hope they can continue to support it as long as possible, at least until a more "complete" and stable version; I still find many features and functions lacking and also bugs here and there. Maemo5 live till PR1.3, hope MeeGo Harmattan will go way beyond that.

After reading comments here, n9 is suitable for ppl who wants a stable phone, wt great camera and video recording capabilities and facebook/twitter integration. If it is priced at 1200, similan is sure this n9 will be best seller.

Hehehe, FINALLY 64GB has arrived in other states. free gift for pre-order customers =bluetooth headset BH108. Very limited units.

Hico, quickly go get yours

Lucky Malaysian get bh505

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Nov 1 2011, 04:15 PM

BH505...BH108....which one better?