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Ramjade
post Feb 16 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Feb 16 2019, 11:07 AM)
Based on your opinion Ramjade, how do you predict when theres going to be a market sell down? How did you predict the sell down during the evening of Christmas?
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I don't predict. But I always have cash on hand for such events. Without cash in hand, you will not have any opportunities to scoop up good deals.

Another thing you see market expensive see the ETF for idea, you still want to chase? I don't chase.

Of course you must be able to sit on cash and don't do anything. Must not have FOMO.

QUOTE(honsiong @ Feb 16 2019, 02:37 PM)
If the tax relief ends in 2021, won’t bother with PRS ady.
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Same here. RM3k/year will automatically be allocated for PRS to be used when opportunities come.
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post Feb 17 2019, 12:36 AM

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Want to ask, where do I check the prices for the PRS NAV so I know when I want to buy in a lump sum. is there a site where i can track the daily prices?
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post Feb 17 2019, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Feb 17 2019, 12:36 AM)
Want to ask, where do I check the prices for the PRS NAV so I know when I want to buy in a lump sum. is there a site where i can track the daily prices?
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May we know what is the names of the PRS providers you are looking to buy the PRS funds? Is it publicmutual or non public mutual PRS funds?
Btw...distribution will make the NAVs of the fund price looks lower....
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post Feb 17 2019, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Feb 17 2019, 12:36 AM)
Want to ask, where do I check the prices for the PRS NAV so I know when I want to buy in a lump sum. is there a site where i can track the daily prices?
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I use Bloomberg as data source in Google Sheets.
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post Feb 17 2019, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Feb 17 2019, 12:36 AM)
Want to ask, where do I check the prices for the PRS NAV so I know when I want to buy in a lump sum. is there a site where i can track the daily prices?
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You do know that unit trust NAV is delayed by 1-2 days right?
Also NAV can as mentioned can be manipulated by fund manager to make it drop like giving dividend or do a unit split.

So what you see low maybe few days ago price... Buying low have it's own risk too. Low can go lower.

You can check out FSM page of the fund you are interested in, they will list down the NAV price for past 3 months.

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post Feb 17 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2019, 09:50 AM)
You do know that unit trust NAV is delayed by 1-2 days right?
Also NAV can as mentioned can be manipulated by fund manager to make it drop like giving dividend or do a unit split.

So what you see low maybe few days ago price... Buying low have it's own risk too. Low can go lower.

You can check out FSM page of the fund you are interested in,  they will list  down the NAV price for past 3 months.
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I don’t believe in timing the market also. Just buy and it will still go up in long run.
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post Feb 17 2019, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Feb 17 2019, 10:06 AM)
I don’t believe in timing the market also. Just buy and it will still go up in long run.
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Do both. Cause why buy when is expensive? Buy when it's cheap. Is exactly like how you shop for groceries. Yes sometimes we just buy when we need. But if you can wait it out, buy during sales and you have more cash left over.
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post Feb 17 2019, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 17 2019, 10:14 AM)
Do both. Cause why buy when is expensive?  Buy when it's cheap. Is exactly like how you shop for groceries. Yes sometimes we just buy when we need. But if you can wait it out,  buy during sales and you have more cash left over.
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Yeah that's what I am planning to do. Put money in on a monthly basis but hold on a lump sum to buy when it's low as well
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post Feb 17 2019, 03:12 PM

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This is how you can fetch PRS current NAV from Bloomber in your Google Sheets, it works on PRS funds that have a Bloomberg ticker.

Assuming your fund provider is CIMB, and you invest in CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity class C like me:

1. Find the bloomberg ticker for the fund. In my example, can just google "<fund name> fact sheet". In CIMB AAXJ, the Bloomberg ticker is "CPAEJEC:MK"
2. In Google Sheet, type this in formula bar, replace the ticker with your own.
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=ImportXML("https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CPAEJEC:MK", "//*[@class='priceText__1853e8a5']")


Yahoo Finance not friendly for scraping dy, hope won't Bloomberg uturn do the same.

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post Feb 17 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Feb 17 2019, 03:12 PM)
This is how you can fetch PRS current NAV from Bloomber in your Google Sheets, it works on PRS funds that have a Bloomberg ticker.

Assuming your fund provider is CIMB, and you invest in CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity class C like me:

1. Find the bloomberg ticker for the fund. In my example, can just google "<fund name> fact sheet". In CIMB AAXJ, the Bloomberg ticker is "CPAEJEC:MK"
2. In Google Sheet, type this in formula bar, replace the ticker with your own.
CODE
=ImportXML("https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CPAEJEC:MK", "//*[@class='priceText__1853e8a5']")


Yahoo Finance not friendly for scraping dy, hope won't Bloomberg uturn do the same.
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can this formula being used if I want to get the NAVs of a few PRS funds?
can putting that formula into different cells works? notworthy.gif

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post Feb 17 2019, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 17 2019, 06:10 PM)
can this formula being used if I want to get the NAVs of a few PRS funds?
can putting that formula into different cells works?  notworthy.gif
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Yes. I also use it to track my shares from SGX, basically anything that can be quoted on Bloomberg.
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Feb 17 2019, 07:24 PM)
Yes. I also use it to track my shares from SGX, basically anything that can be quoted on Bloomberg.
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thumbsup.gif thanks....
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 16 2019, 08:01 PM)
I don't predict. But I always have cash on hand for such events. Without cash in hand,  you will not have any opportunities to scoop up good deals.

Another thing you see market expensive see the ETF for idea,  you still want to chase? I don't chase.

Of course you must be able to sit on cash and don't do anything. Must not have FOMO.
Same here. RM3k/year will automatically be allocated for PRS to be used when opportunities come.
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How u know when is cheap?
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 18 2019, 08:32 PM)
How u know when is cheap?
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He has his own theory.
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post Feb 18 2019, 08:47 PM

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Please share here so it will beneficial to David83
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post Feb 18 2019, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 18 2019, 08:32 PM)
How u know when is cheap?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 18 2019, 08:34 PM)
He has his own theory.
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Buy with every 10-15% drop.
Buy when news all screaming to sell and no one recommending to buy.
Always have cash standby.
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post Feb 19 2019, 08:17 AM

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10%-15% drop is from which point?
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 19 2019, 08:17 AM)
10%-15% drop is from which point?
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you can get from bloomberg.com 52week high and low price range.
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post Feb 19 2019, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 19 2019, 08:17 AM)
10%-15% drop is from which point?
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When you look at the price if stock you want to buy, and don't feel worth buying. That's expensive. Like now.
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Again when people all selling, just take a peek and see if anything catches your eye.
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QUOTE(bfs621 @ Feb 19 2019, 09:41 AM)
you can get from bloomberg.com  52week high and low price range.
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will this displayed high /low Navs being distorted by the dividend distribution incidents? notworthy.gif

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