QUOTE(mbam @ Sep 26 2020, 06:27 PM)
You can continue buying a this year and 2021. Claim for
This year - 2021
2021 - 2022
Whether you can buy in 2022, it's unsure yet. If no tax relief not extending in 2022, don't bother buying anymore.
Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??
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Sep 26 2020, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(mbam @ Sep 26 2020, 06:27 PM) You can continue buying a this year and 2021. Claim for This year - 2021 2021 - 2022 Whether you can buy in 2022, it's unsure yet. If no tax relief not extending in 2022, don't bother buying anymore. ironman16 liked this post
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Sep 27 2020, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(mbam @ Sep 27 2020, 12:29 PM) If 2020 onwards not tax deductible, is it worth it to go in now? Cos I might have to wait after 55 to withdraw them. It's 2021 which means you have 2 more years of income tax relief (buy in 2020 and 2021)Depends on how you look at it. For me anything that can lower my income tax, I am all ears regardless how long it have left. Trick is pick the right fund and get min 10%p.a Pick the wrong one and get negative or 0-3%p.a you which is pathetic. So if I am in your position I will continue buying until 2021. After that if no more income tax relief, I won't buy. Divert my rm3k into other investment stuff. honsiong liked this post
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Oct 1 2020, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Oct 1 2020, 04:28 PM) I ever buy affin prs moderate bcoz follow recommendations xuzen. Buy and hold one PRS fund only. Others use unit trust or stashaway.Then, i buy principal prs asia pac dyna This year i buy am REIT prs (hope I'm not regret, now low buy, hope it up when i reach 60. I i didn't buy REIT in my portfolio) Every year buy new one 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 |
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Oct 6 2020, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(proJay @ Oct 6 2020, 12:46 AM) hi guys, for the PRS. Is it buy in and wait for it price raise or distribution dividend? PRS is basically wait for price to increase. If you sell you get charged with penalty of 8%.Or u guys will sell and switch of other fund to earn the different? Distribution of Dividend in unit trust is not important. proJay liked this post
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Oct 6 2020, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(proJay @ Oct 6 2020, 02:44 AM) Let say one of the PRS fund the current NAV is 0.3, 10 years later still the same or just raise to 0.4. As the poster below said earn from tax relief.May I know how people earn from this kind of fund? Is it invest in PRS now and just get the money back when retirement, no need keep sell/switch fund? Invest 3000 now, 30 years later will get how much? Sorry im newbie to PRS. Then anything extra is bonus. Tax relief is valid until next year unless govt decided to extend it and valid for only RM3k. So last chance to buy PRS is next year. For me I like to get that bonus and I like to juice it up to say 10%p.a To profit from unit trust = NAV (price) X number of units. So depending on the fund. If they keep their NAV flat, but number of unit increasing you still make money. If NAV stays the same and unit doesn change then it's a lousy fund. Cause your value of money didn't go up. If you want I make money you have to sell your fund. When you sell it, you have to make sure NAV+number of units > original NAV + number of units. More info kindly read first page of https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4193169 QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Oct 6 2020, 08:16 AM) This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 6 2020, 09:58 AM proJay liked this post
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Oct 7 2020, 03:10 PM
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Oct 18 2020, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Oct 15 2020, 10:08 AM) Considered good ka? Was thinking to top up now via PPA Online .. is this a good time to top up for Affin Hwang? QUOTE(cklimm @ Oct 18 2020, 05:08 PM) I topup during march sell down. Returns now > any rewards BY FSM. |
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Oct 18 2020, 11:21 PM
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Oct 19 2020, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Oct 19 2020, 08:10 AM) Well. For march selldown, I can agak its time to in. But what i cant agak is economy and job security, hence didnt want to put 3k into fridge. For me every January I keep aside RM3k for PRS without fail. I start keeping Rm3k after my last PRS topup. Say I topup in August. Sept onwards I start collecting money to reach RM3k.On hindsight, of course should have in. Since my work is still not impacted |
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Oct 19 2020, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Oct 19 2020, 09:40 AM) Up to you. I only buy principal Asia dynamic. LoTek liked this post
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Oct 19 2020, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ Oct 19 2020, 10:40 AM) Yes. If you already have principal Asia Pacific dynamic income fund (main fund) you don't need to buy that. It's a feeder which feeds into the main fund.I took that PRS cause that was the best performing PRS fund consecutively for don't know how many donkey years. QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 19 2020, 12:44 PM) i-Saraan is purely under EPF jurisdiction. I see it as trying to enrich unit trust companies. PRS is under PPA & PRS provider jurisdiction. Both are aiming to enlarge your retirement basket. |
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Oct 21 2020, 09:14 AM
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Oct 21 2020, 12:26 PM
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Oct 21 2020, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(dopp @ Oct 21 2020, 12:23 PM) My pick principal Asia Pacific PRSSecond pick affin hwang growth. |
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Oct 24 2020, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Oct 24 2020, 08:56 AM) why principal asia pacific PRS and not the ex japan equity one? Principal asia pacific PRS is the the one ex japan.looking to throw RM 3k for tax relief before end of nov for investment till retirement, wonder which funds should I get https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/fun...-Equity-Class-C QUOTE(TechnoG @ Oct 24 2020, 09:49 AM) Yeah the ex japan equity fund form Principal. Where to get? See this list.May I know where do I find the comprehensive list for the eligible funds? I'm basing the selection off the PPA website: https://www.ppa.my/prs-providers/list-of-scheme-funds/ https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/fsmone/fun...d-selector///// Make sure to tick (Private Retirement Schemes (PRS) Providers Only) |
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Nov 13 2020, 10:01 AM
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I just wished they would allow those robo to be included for PRS.
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Nov 13 2020, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 13 2020, 10:02 AM) I don't do robo. I just wish they extend prs to robo. It sucks to pay 2% for unit trust every year.QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 13 2020, 10:05 AM) I just wish they extend prs to robo. It sucks to pay 2% for unit trust every year. wongmunkeong liked this post
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Nov 13 2020, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Nov 13 2020, 10:22 AM) Yeah like Asia dynamic fund.QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 13 2020, 10:23 AM) I think they have. Not sureQUOTE(honsiong @ Nov 13 2020, 10:29 AM) Singapore SRS actually has StashAway in it, very nice. But I guess the PRS and i-Invest are setup to benefit local banks and fund managers. Yup. They are better than us. PRS copied sg but didn't copy everything. |
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Nov 18 2020, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(kafechew @ Nov 18 2020, 12:31 AM) Do you mean the PPA Annual Fee RM 8? Just pay the damn RM8.00. Don't be stingy. Sometimes the RM8.00 is worth paying especially if the fund is good (able to generate double digit returns yearly)My understanding is the RM 8 was waived during the first year you invest PRS (opened a PPA account). And you won't be charged RM 8 if you do not contribute a single cent to your existing PRS funds of different Providers. Scenario 1: You're buying a new fund every year. You're not opening new account (Only one PPA account per person based on IC). So, Buying a new fund after the first year, will still charge RM 8, right? Scenario 2: You're buying and topup-ing 3 different funds from 2 different Providers. You will be charged RM 8 x 2 = RM 16, right? Scenario 3: You're buying and topup-ing 3 different funds from 3 different Providers. You will be charged RM 8 x 3 = RM 24, right? So, we should concentrate on one PRS provider per calendar year to avoid multiple PPA annual fee, regardless it is a topup or new fund. Anyone can clarify this? PS: FPX Fee RM 0.50 will be charged for each transaction via PRS Online. If you topup RM 100 for 30 times separately, you would have been charged RM 15 (0.5 x 30). So, better lump sum top-up RM 3000.50 in single transaction (RM 3000 will go to your fund and RM 0.50 is the FPX fee). wongmunkeong liked this post
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Nov 18 2020, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(kafechew @ Nov 18 2020, 07:13 AM) That's not the point. Somebody thought they don't need to pay RM 8 by buying a new fund every year, when topup require RM 8. As long as you don't topup you don't pay RM8.00. That's why I said just pay the damn RM8.00My understanding is that we need to pay RM 8 as long as we make contribution after the first year (and per provider), whether it is a new fund or topup. Sure, we don't want to be penny wise, pound foolish. Personally, I won't put more than RM 3k into PRS funds in a year. Find a long term stable fund, just to maximise the PRS tax relief quota. If not for tax relief, I would totally avoid PRS funds. RM 3k is a small amount, quite a waste to split into 2 or more PRS funds in a year, with each RM 8 extra charges. After that, to generate return, better find somewhere with higher return and lower fee. Just my 2cents. Why only stick with tax relief? For me I want both. Tax relief and have better returns than EPF. Have my cake and eat it at the same time. kafechew liked this post
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