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TSvictorboy
post Oct 11 2005, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(limcc @ Oct 11 2005, 09:24 PM)
IBM? they sold their entire hard drive division to Hitachi in 2003--either because they find they cant earn too much** from HDD OR due to the infamous 75GXP.

**Conner brought over by Seagate, Micropolis close down in 1997, Quantum sold its hard drive division to Maxtor, Fujitsu exited the mass market in 2001 only make specialist notebook and SCSI drives, Toshiba make only 2.5-inch and 1.8-inch notebook drives.....this is not a easy market to survive.

as for which brand make good harddisk--i own over 10pc of IBM/Hitachi HDD, only one each for seagate, WD and Maxtor--you know what i'm gonna recommend.
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 11 2005, 09:41 PM)
IBM and Hitachi also makes good HDD, a forumer uglyvamp uses Hitachi for his Raid setup, and its just sweet
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haha!!!!
really??!!
how was the performance and reliability??!! used for how long already?!!
i seldom see peopel hitachi hdd these day!!! sweat.gif
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post Oct 11 2005, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 01:03 PM)
wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler.  cry.gif  i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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28k of bad sector. but the RMA took only about 1 week time. relief. and the good thing is that they RMAed a SATA 300mb/s replacing the SATA 150mb/s (transfer rate).

hrmm... the reason i opt for WD is because of its speed, according to some sellers in LYP. and comparing to seagate with NCQ, i still feel that WD is faster.

i know i should't totally believe in sellers intro, but i did, and i didn't regret.

the WD 120g and WD 200g is still running well. never experience any data loss before.

This post has been edited by Sanko: Oct 11 2005, 10:29 PM
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post Oct 11 2005, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
how come!!!!!
which show you buy!!!
the one i bought has S.M.A.R.T error, i suspect they sell old stock haha!!  sweat.gif

* about the RMA, should we follow the date stated in the hdd company website or base on the date we purchase?
also, WD offer how many years warrenty, Seagate offered 5 years, what about Samsung?
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hrmm... if i'm not mistaken, WD offers 3 years of warranty while seagate offers 5 years. that's the draw back. samsung i'm not quite sure.

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TSvictorboy
post Oct 11 2005, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 11 2005, 10:23 PM)
hrmm... if i'm not mistaken, WD offers 3 years of warranty while seagate offers 5 years. that's the draw back. samsung i'm not quite sure.
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hey oh my goodness!!! haha!!!
alamak!!
what??! WD offered 3 years only??!!
i thought they offered 5 years as well??!!

below were WD official website, it said 5 years warrenty for the SATA, but not sure included other drives or not...

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=158
TSvictorboy
post Oct 11 2005, 10:43 PM

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those who use WD hdd...
do you guy use this tool --> Data Lifeguard Tools(tm) for your WD hdd??
hmm i think i need to use this to diagnose my hdd sweat.gif
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 11 2005, 10:40 PM)
hey oh my goodness!!! haha!!!
alamak!!
what??! WD offered 3 years only??!!
i thought they offered 5 years as well??!!

below were WD official website, it said 5 years warrenty for the SATA, but not sure included other drives or not...

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=158
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i bought WD sata2 hdd,hope it is 5 years warranty....

i want to buy seagate hdd at first but it is a bit expensive & my budget is limited,so go for WD,dosn't dare to use Maxtor because many people say it is a lousy hdd......
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post Oct 13 2005, 03:06 PM

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using samsung and WD both oso nice but...for samsung only use it for 3 months.....then WD oledi 2 yrs la...so far...no problem and quiet~
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post Oct 13 2005, 03:12 PM

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post Oct 13 2005, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(saizo @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif
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pls specified ur size, how long u had bought them? cry.gif

QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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hitachi if u want, i can order for u but 40gb cost u around RM4xx. doh.gif

victorboy
samsung hdd is 3yr warranty.

seemlike WD is also almost like maxtor got high failure rate too. shakehead.gif
dun trust seagate coz my frens all had spoilt 4 pcs seagate 80gb liao. mad.gif
i kena *** kao kao coz i recomend them seagate.
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post Oct 13 2005, 04:37 PM

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so far I recommend Seagate to my frens and clients. no problem/complain at all
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QUOTE(rebelsoul76 @ Oct 13 2005, 04:37 PM)
so far I recommend Seagate to my frens and clients. no problem/complain at all
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the seagate usually occured after 1 yr or 11 months.
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post Oct 13 2005, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 13 2005, 04:13 PM)
pls specified ur size, how long u had bought them?  cry.gif
hitachi if u want, i can order for u but 40gb cost u around RM4xx.  doh.gif

victorboy
samsung hdd is 3yr warranty.

seemlike WD is also almost like maxtor got high failure rate too.  shakehead.gif
dun trust seagate coz my frens all had spoilt 4 pcs seagate 80gb liao.  mad.gif
i kena *** kao kao coz i recomend them seagate.
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wow!!!...
thanks for your info...
I don't why nowaday hdd so easy to get errors. why can't they improve it...hmmm..
should i try Seagate and Samsung?!.....
i hope the hdd should last for 3 years and above running in 24/7 sweat.gif
it is possible the product made in china? therefore the quality and reliability are just so so only. sweat.gif
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:25 PM

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first i'd like to say that i have bad bad bad experiences with ALL the three big names of harddisks.... MAXTOR, WD AND SEAGATE. im starting to think that im the HD killer biggrin.gif

let me elaborate....

1. MAXTOR 200GB PATA
- bought it for my ext casing. formatted it, put my music (10GB) in it....after 5secs.. *poof* harddisk unrecognized. first time lucky...i copied my data.
- 2nd time reformat...CUT and PASTE all my music and data... about 60GB worth...after 2minutes... *poof* again! sob sob sob...
- tried all possible methods but my data was gone...FOREVER and EVER.
- hit LYP next week to change for a WD 200GB. that was the last of my Maxtor 200GB.

2. WD 200GB PATA (replacement for MAXTOR 200GB)
- unlucky me....harddisk casing failure...causing my WD to have a power failure and had them go through warranty.
- 150GB data kaboom in the destruction... SOB SOB SOB SOB...
- (though not a hd failure, still was a BAD experience)

3. Seagate 120GB SATA (internal)
- using for 2yrs++. still working
- no problems whatsoever until lately... HD spun 4times slower with occasional clicking sounds.
- thought was bad sectors... used Seagate Seatools to diagnose...no bad sectors.
- problem detected by Seatools --> FILE SYSTEM ERROR... WTF?? NTFS index system (or some sort) has some error...
- backed up all my data...albeit a 4x longer transfer time...(3hours for 40GB imagine that!)
- reformatted
- working fine now...

So you see...im kinda paranoid now.... esp about harddisks...

And fyi...my hd are kept far away from my sub or speakers so they're not in any sort of magnetic field or such. As for now... my WD 200GB and Seagate 120GB are holding up...

As for GOOD harddisks, i think the better ones of the 3 is Seagate and also Western Digital. i dont believe in THE BEST harddisk...cos to me...there isnt any biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by jinXxxx: Oct 13 2005, 08:26 PM
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM

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You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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ceo684...were you refering to me?

does the PSU have an effect on the HD?
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM)
You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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i am also of the opinion that chapalang PSU would definitely shorten the life of any HDD's. power fluctuation/ inconsistent current..... is probably the culprit.

hmmm.... but i wuz wondering. my psu is a 370W enermax. izzit ok to connect 2 hdds to a single power connector?? i getting worried now...... unsure.gif





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post Oct 14 2005, 03:07 AM

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erm... i'm noob.
i heard that eventhough seagate have 5 years warranty.. maxtor's performance is better than seagate wo...
correct me if i'm wrong.. (again, i'm noob >.<)
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jones007
the maxtor is an untrustly HDD brand lah. i & my customer kena too many since yr2000.

jinXxxx
wat brand is tat casing? we will coount on tat casing model then.


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post Oct 14 2005, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 13 2005, 08:25 PM)
first i'd like to say that i have bad bad bad experiences with ALL the three big names of harddisks.... MAXTOR, WD AND SEAGATE. im starting to think that im the HD killer biggrin.gif

let me elaborate....

1. MAXTOR 200GB PATA
- bought it for my ext casing. formatted it, put my music (10GB) in it....after 5secs.. *poof* harddisk unrecognized. first time lucky...i copied my data.
- 2nd time reformat...CUT and PASTE all my music and data... about 60GB worth...after 2minutes... *poof* again! sob sob sob...
- tried all possible methods but my data was gone...FOREVER and EVER.
- hit LYP next week to change for a WD 200GB. that was the last of my Maxtor 200GB.

2. WD 200GB PATA (replacement for MAXTOR 200GB)
- unlucky me....harddisk casing failure...causing my WD to have a power failure and had them go through warranty.
- 150GB data kaboom in the destruction... SOB SOB SOB SOB...
- (though not a hd failure, still was a BAD experience)

3. Seagate 120GB SATA (internal)
- using for 2yrs++. still working
- no problems whatsoever until lately... HD spun 4times slower with occasional clicking sounds.
- thought was bad sectors... used Seagate Seatools to diagnose...no bad sectors.
- problem detected by Seatools --> FILE SYSTEM ERROR... WTF?? NTFS index system (or some sort) has some error...
- backed up all my data...albeit a 4x longer transfer time...(3hours for 40GB imagine that!)
- reformatted
- working fine now...

So you see...im kinda paranoid now.... esp about harddisks...

And fyi...my hd are kept far away from my sub or speakers so they're not in any sort of magnetic field or such. As for now... my WD 200GB and Seagate 120GB are holding up...

As for GOOD harddisks, i think the better ones of the 3 is Seagate and also Western Digital. i dont believe in THE BEST harddisk...cos to me...there isnt any biggrin.gif
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wow!!!
Maxtor hdd always not reliable...how come....haha!!
i think the new version of Seagate hdd has improved, shouldn't be any problem like past time...maybe the new hdd i will go for Seagate and try it out...
data lost is a major problems, man, i lost tons of data due to my previous WD hdd failure. cry.gif
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post Oct 14 2005, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM)
You use the world's toughest SCSI drives also no point if using "icute PSU".

I use Maxtor with ENlight 250W for 2 yrs plus (only complain slow lah, dunno why a DMP9 80gb slower than a Quantum AS Plus 30GB that is way older).
Then sold to a friend.. kena *** kau kau just like supermac cos the thing kong in 2 months. She was using a caplang PSU.
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Oct 13 2005, 11:05 PM)
ceo684...were you refering to me?

does the PSU have an effect on the HD?
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QUOTE(nuodi @ Oct 13 2005, 11:39 PM)
i am also of the opinion that chapalang PSU would definitely shorten the life of any HDD's.  power fluctuation/ inconsistent current..... is probably the culprit.

hmmm.... but i wuz wondering. my psu is a 370W enermax. izzit ok to connect 2 hdds to a single power connector??  i getting worried now......  unsure.gif
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chapalang hdd will cause hdd failure and shorten the life of th hdd??!!
how? is it because insufficient of power? or what....i wonder...

QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 14 2005, 03:07 AM)
erm... i'm noob.
i heard that eventhough seagate have 5 years warranty.. maxtor's performance is better than seagate wo...
correct me if i'm wrong.. (again, i'm noob >.<)
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the most affraid part is data lost, no matter how good performance is your hdd is. sweat.gif

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