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Sanko
post Oct 10 2005, 10:55 AM

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hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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post Oct 10 2005, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 10 2005, 10:55 AM)
hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler. cry.gif i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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post Oct 10 2005, 05:36 PM

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i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.


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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:36 PM)
i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.
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ur wd which kong had been using how long? i takut mine kong nanti.
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post Oct 10 2005, 05:47 PM

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used it only 6mths or so before it conked. and i was using it very sparingly too, just used it to store the os and apps only. temp directory and swap file was set to another disk. i also avoid p2p on this disk and instead use my maxtor. yet it still conked.....

so dont worry, like i say, its mostly luck of the draw. just make sure you have some sort of backup plan in place.... smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2005, 05:58 PM

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WD used to have a bad reputation, but seemed to have built itself up in a short amount of time
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Oct 10 2005, 10:24 AM)
Hmmm, suggest you boot up in DOS and try to copy it to another HDD. Either that or doing a low level format, although personally i'd junk the HDD and get one of those sweet high reliability disks.
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hmmm.....
dunno why this happen!!!
can't copy in the normal mode....
but i have formatted the partition....
the status said the hdd healthy... sweat.gif
i think this happen during my another hdd S.M.A.R.T error....
when that happen, i quickly buy a new hdd and copy the file in that particular hdd to new one!!

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post Oct 10 2005, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Oct 10 2005, 10:44 AM)
IMO, Maxtor are VERY unreliable....had one maxtor 40GB 5400rpm died on me erly dis year....warranty period was over....n another maxtor SATA died on my other computer within a year after pruchase...

apparently i am currently using a Maxtor 120GB according to my sig...hope it wont fail me anytime soon....my suggestion, u can get any other brand besides maxtor...WD proved to be pretty reliable...
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hey you are right....
last time i use Maxtor, almost a year the bad sector say hello to me!! OMG!!

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haha!!!
true, there are three brand hdd in the market, WD, Seagate and Samsung...

oh yah, i got another 40g WD hdd with which i am using now, it's already used for 3 years already, and working fine...
only my newly bough from last year, 80g WD hdd, almost a years S.M.A.R.T error!...manage to backup some 85% of the files, and most of the file has been corrupted..
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM

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Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif

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QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 10 2005, 10:55 AM)
hrmm.... i just RMA my WD1600JS, bought it on February 05

but i still opt for WD, i already bought 3 WD (120G, 160G and 200G)

currently using WD2000JS (Sata2)
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how come!!!!!
which show you buy!!!
the one i bought has S.M.A.R.T error, i suspect they sell old stock haha!! sweat.gif

* about the RMA, should we follow the date stated in the hdd company website or base on the date we purchase?
also, WD offer how many years warrenty, Seagate offered 5 years, what about Samsung?


QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 01:03 PM)
wat happen to ur 160GB? sudden dead?
i also WD user ler.  cry.gif  i dun want mine spoilt, i got lot hadnt backup ler.
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hey you!!!...the DVD+R seller!!
hahaha!!!
you better spend some money to save all your data into DVD+R or other media for backup....can't depend on a single hdd, like me, once S.M.A.R.T error then i have to say bye bye data and hello new hdd!!! cry.gif
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:43 PM

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well, Maxtor is not a good brand since last year. In January, when I 1st got my sata, was so happy, my 1st hdd bought by myself, after I install OS, crap, the whole thing crash, den go RMA, come back, still got same problem. Sent it again, when I got it back this time, was working well, but can hear some tic-tic sound during heavy loading
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:36 PM)
i think hd is mainly a hit and miss thing. some ppl swear by WD and say Maxtor is craps but i think it's the luck of the draw.

my 60gb maxtor bought in 2001 is still working fine now and has found new life in xbox. even more reliable are those quantum fireballs released back in late 90s. i still have a couple running steadily in my grunt workstations smile.gif too bad quantum had to close shop.

in my 10+ years of computing, i've had 2 hd failures, one was many years ago (cant remember what brand) while the other was my WD80 which conked out last year. i also had many misadventures with spoilt partitions, corrupted data etc so nowadays i am quite paranoid and have a decent (hopefully!) backup plan in place already. 1 huge 320gb hd to backup the other 2 smaller ones...hahaha.
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hey speaking about Quantum!!
that was really good!!!! very reliable and longer life span than other brands hdd...
hehe!..i am using one of it now, still running now, already usign it for 5 years, bought since year..hey no no..i bought it since year 1999 during my college time haha!!!! 6 years already!!!!....woohoo!! let's party!! however the capacity only got 20g....can store much data!
how come!!!! those good brand either been taken by other company or closed down!! like 3DFX, i owned voodoo 5500..hehe!!!


QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 10 2005, 05:39 PM)
ur wd which kong had been using how long? i takut mine kong nanti.
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 10 2005, 05:58 PM)
WD used to have a bad reputation, but seemed to have built itself up in a short amount of time
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hey again!!!
you better backup to your DVD+R media or additional hdd...
else...bye bye data and hello to buy a new hdd!! too bad, data gone...haha sweat.gif
my friend told me, WD exist very long time, but how come they can made a reliable hdd, at least can last for 3 or more years!!!! in long operation....!!!
how come...how come..! can expect we buy new hdd each year, if the hdd spoil!!

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post Oct 10 2005, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(lookie @ Oct 10 2005, 05:47 PM)
used it only 6mths or so before it conked. and i was using it very sparingly too, just used it to store the os and apps only. temp directory and swap file was set to another disk. i also avoid p2p on this disk and instead use my maxtor. yet it still conked.....

so dont worry, like i say, its mostly luck of the draw. just make sure you have some sort of backup plan in place.... smile.gif
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true..
must spend more money to back up thsoe data in hdd and also other media such as DVD+R...!!
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(saizo @ Oct 10 2005, 07:40 PM)
Western Digital not so reliable these days.... especially larger HDD like 200GB... i got two of them ... now got some problem...data gets corrupted. O/S missing... but bad sector could be detected doh.gif
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hey you!!!
haha!!
alamak!....
how long you are using the 200g WD hdd!!!??
data very precious....must backup!!
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post Oct 10 2005, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 10 2005, 07:43 PM)
well, Maxtor is not a good brand since last year. In January, when I 1st got my sata, was so happy, my 1st hdd bought by myself, after I install OS, crap, the whole thing crash, den go RMA, come back, still got same problem. Sent it again, when I got it back this time, was working well, but can hear some  tic-tic sound during heavy loading
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hahaha!!!
dangerous...better backup to other media, like DVD+R or something!!
tick tick tick..!!! worried!!
Maxtor bought over the Quantum, and why can't they use Quantum technology to produce a ood hdd??!! hehe!! sweat.gif
nothing is long lasting, as i said, at least can last for several yeas not month/s or a year!!...

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post Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM

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Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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post Oct 10 2005, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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hey!! haha!!!
IBM eh!!....
wow, PSU will cause hdd bad sector?!...OMG!!!...i'm usig icute hope will cause any damage!!
why PSU will cause damage hdd??!! wonder why!!!
what about using external hdd case?

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post Oct 10 2005, 10:29 PM

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datz Y, at all cost muz avoid maxtor
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post Oct 11 2005, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Oct 10 2005, 08:02 PM)
Too bad that IBM don't make enduser's HDD anymore. sad.gif been using DeskStar 60Gb 7200 2meg since 2003.
Went to lowyat yesterday to hunt for HDD and  was told that there's no IBM hdd for a long time sad.gif
anyway, setteled for WD 80Gb 7200 8mb hope that it don't break down like my friend's  WD laugh.gif
I've noticed that after changing to a better PSU, there's no more bad sectors and no HDD deaths. maybe that's the cause of faulty HDDs??
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IBM? they sold their entire hard drive division to Hitachi in 2003--either because they find they cant earn too much** from HDD OR due to the infamous 75GXP.

**Conner brought over by Seagate, Micropolis close down in 1997, Quantum sold its hard drive division to Maxtor, Fujitsu exited the mass market in 2001 only make specialist notebook and SCSI drives, Toshiba make only 2.5-inch and 1.8-inch notebook drives.....this is not a easy market to survive.

as for which brand make good harddisk--i own over 10pc of IBM/Hitachi HDD, only one each for seagate, WD and Maxtor--you know what i'm gonna recommend.

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post Oct 11 2005, 09:41 PM

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IBM and Hitachi also makes good HDD, a forumer uglyvamp uses Hitachi for his Raid setup, and its just sweet

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