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post Jul 5 2006, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Hellkite @ Jul 5 2006, 03:01 PM)
Hey guys, just thought I'd share this with all of you.

Bought a new Seagate 250GB hard drive from Low Yat last week. Installed it the next day and it just wouldn't work. I think it was just my luck that I got the 1 faulty drive in the whole shipment. Anyway, went to their website, put in an RMA and sent my hard drive to the centre in Menara Summit. Received a receipt confirmation email 2 days later (sent it on a Friday) and still didn't get a replacement after another 2 days. I sent in a complaint to Seagate Malaysia and they forwarded it to the regional manager. That was yesterday. Today, the regional manager emailed me to say that the drive I bought was currently out of stock and it would take another 2 weeks to get new stock. So, he offered me a 400GB hard drive in exchange!! Now happily waiting for new 400 GB hard drive to arrive.  biggrin.gif  Not bad... pay for 250GB get 400Gb and their customer service is excellent, normally only takes 4-5 days and if longer or no stock, they give you a better one. I'm now a strong supporter of Seagate. Seagate for life!!
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post Jul 6 2006, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Hellkite @ Jul 5 2006, 03:01 PM)
Hey guys, just thought I'd share this with all of you.

Bought a new Seagate 250GB hard drive from Low Yat last week. Installed it the next day and it just wouldn't work. I think it was just my luck that I got the 1 faulty drive in the whole shipment. Anyway, went to their website, put in an RMA and sent my hard drive to the centre in Menara Summit. Received a receipt confirmation email 2 days later (sent it on a Friday) and still didn't get a replacement after another 2 days. I sent in a complaint to Seagate Malaysia and they forwarded it to the regional manager. That was yesterday. Today, the regional manager emailed me to say that the drive I bought was currently out of stock and it would take another 2 weeks to get new stock. So, he offered me a 400GB hard drive in exchange!! Now happily waiting for new 400 GB hard drive to arrive.  biggrin.gif  Not bad... pay for 250GB get 400Gb and their customer service is excellent, normally only takes 4-5 days and if longer or no stock, they give you a better one. I'm now a strong supporter of Seagate. Seagate for life!!
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400gb? shocking.gif wait i buy a 80gb & try to rma for it too.
how long ur hdd spoilt? after u open 24 hours? sweat.gif
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post Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM

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Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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wd re2 now selling how much for 160gb now?
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post Jul 12 2006, 01:22 PM

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Hey just want to ask. i have a 250G HDD with me now and i am using the external casing for it. problem is, sometimes it detects sometimes it doesnt.

any idea? or is the any way program i can run to check its reliability?
thanks

btw. the casing should be in good condition
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post Jul 13 2006, 12:38 PM

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Hurhur, I am in the verge of getting either a 160 gig IDE HD or a 200GB.
If its you guys, which do you prefer?

I know its extra 10-20 bucks but I'm just afraid that well you know the bigger the space capacity the more its prone to BAD SECTOR.

Right now I'm thinking of WD or Seagate..
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post Jul 13 2006, 01:36 PM

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guys, my seagate 160gb sata is going to die soon(just use it for 6 months already got many bad sectors...cry.gif)
i need to buy a new one to replace it
budget rm250, any recommendation?
between, my mobo only support sata1.
samsung, WD or seagate again?
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post Jul 13 2006, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.
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How anyone seen this drive in LYP ? If so, how much are they selling for?
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 13 2006, 01:36 PM)
guys, my seagate 160gb sata is going to die soon(just use it for 6 months already got many bad sectors...cry.gif)
i need to buy a new one to replace it
budget rm250, any recommendation?
between, my mobo only support sata1.
samsung, WD or seagate again?
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try to format the whole drive and check again. maybe is virtual bad sector. unsure.gif
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post Jul 13 2006, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(bOoEsT @ Jul 6 2006, 12:14 PM)
Yes, The new contenders after Hitachi slowed down all their HD business:(

The new contender is from Seagate 7200.10 and they are FAST!!!!
with 16MB cache they are making Raptors run as well.

On the other hand Seagate's reliability on IDE drives have always not been very encouraging. So that is the place for a * pause* here.

An how did WD react? they push out WD5000YS, their RE2 series. LABELLED as ENTERPRISE drives these drives boost a MTBF of 1.2 million hours (in theory) and boost the same 5 years warranty like Seagate.

Price and Peformance Seagate have it covered for now.

Reliability.. the WD RE2 is still on top.
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RE2 cant even find in cycom, viewnet & czone ler. doh.gif

QUOTE(bengang13 @ Jul 12 2006, 01:22 PM)
Hey just want to ask. i have a 250G HDD with me now and i am using the external casing for it. problem is, sometimes it detects sometimes it doesnt.

any idea? or is the any way program i can run to check its  reliability?
thanks

btw. the casing should be in good condition
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ur casing only stable lower than 250gb?

QUOTE(kerry1136 @ Jul 13 2006, 12:38 PM)
Hurhur, I am in the verge of getting either a 160 gig IDE HD or a 200GB.
If its you guys, which do you prefer?

I know its extra 10-20 bucks but I'm just afraid that well you know the bigger the space capacity the more its prone to BAD SECTOR.

Right now I'm thinking of WD or Seagate..
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i also thinking of getting seagte sata but after read above post, i need to think again. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Jul 13 2006, 04:26 PM)
try to format the whole drive and check again. maybe is virtual bad sector. unsure.gif
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i tried
the condition is even worse now, the system will lag after a while quite frequently. doh.gif
lotsa damaged sectors found with HDtune.
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post Jul 13 2006, 08:15 PM

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what psu you use? one of my friend who was using MEC psu last time got his every component of pc damage 1 by 1 while another guy who use Enlight never had single component fail for several years.
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QUOTE(mengfui @ Jul 13 2006, 08:15 PM)
what psu you use? one of my friend who was using MEC psu last time got his every component  of pc damage 1 by 1 while another guy who use Enlight never had single component fail for several years.
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i'm using Shuttle SFF silentx 240w psu.
this is a realiable psu after i did a research in some forums.
no choice now, i think the hdd is hopeless now.
my new hdd will come on this sunday after that i'll send it for rma. yawn.gif
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post Jul 14 2006, 02:57 AM

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i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs? rclxm9.gif
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Maxtor always noisier than Seagate and WD in my own experinces.
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post Jul 14 2006, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 02:57 AM)
i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs?  rclxm9.gif
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i think usually, OEM HD is of poor quality, regardless of brand...i think companies like DELL, HP etc, paid peanuts for rejected HDD from the hard disk manufacturers in order to maximize profits.

I've also 1 old 15GB Seagate OEM from a HP machine, noisy like hell, slow and can roast chicken if you touch it. (No joking! they should put a label like "DON'T TOUCH WHILE HDD IS IN OPERATION! HEAT WARNING!").

Anyway, IMO, I still think Seagate HDD is the best. I've a few of them, 5 years, 3 years, 2 years, 1 year, all excellent condition.

Also, sometimes it really depends on your other condition, etc, a good PSU is really the number 1 factor in extending the lifespan of your PC. El-cheapo PSU can cause all kinda damages in the long run. If you use el-cheapo PSU, you can check with some software and see that the power is not stable and always goes up and down. With a good PSU, the power is stable and your machine rarely ever hangs.

other factors like heat is another factor. if your casing is like a microwave oven stuff to the brim and you run 24/7, of course your HDD will die faster!

So perhaps, you guys should also tell how you run your HDD so that a clearer picture and more useful info can be analysed here.

Anyway, here's my take:

Item 1
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1) 120GB Seagate - 3yrs plus
2) 20GB Seagate - 5 yrs plus

PC -
430W ChiefTec PSU ( quite a good PSU, PC never hangs ever since i switched to it from my old-cheap PSU)
Casing - Tower ATX , with lots of room to spare and about 5 casing fans.
Usage - Avg 2 hours/day.


Item 2
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1) 40GB Seagate - 2 yrs

PC
Cheap PSU that comes with ATX casing
Casing - ATX Mini-Tower, avg room with no additional casing fan
Usage - very rare!! 1 hrs/week??


Item 3
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1) 80GB Seagate - 1 yrs+

XBOX
- use as HDD replacement for my XBOX
- cramp as hell, no room inside the XBOX casing and what fan?? LOL.
Usage - 3hrs/week


If there's 1 brand that i won't buy, it gotta be Maxtor...there's so many problems with Maxtor HDD from my client office...i think many people has bad experience with them.


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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 13 2006, 04:37 PM)
RE2 cant even find in cycom, viewnet & czone ler.  doh.gif
ur casing only stable lower than 250gb?
i also thinking of getting seagte sata but after read above post, i need to think again.  sweat.gif
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so i need to how much the case support is it?care to elaborate? coz i have 400g hdd that i have not try yet..thanks
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jul 13 2006, 08:06 PM)
i tried
the condition is even worse now, the system will lag after a while quite frequently. doh.gif
lotsa damaged sectors found with HDtune.
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HDtune? wat sw is tat? intro?

QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 02:57 AM)
i got this hard disk from dell..got it from one of my uncle..after installed it..it is dam noisy, especially when a loading aplication, game or program, can hear the hdd spinning sound..it is a 160gb seagate hdd..

iz it normal for hdd to have this sound?? because my other hdd (maxtor, western digital) never have this type of problem, no sound at all, very silence... unsure.gif

ps: sukhoi37 remember me in bs?  rclxm9.gif
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same goes to my compaq western 20gb hdd.

QUOTE(bengang13 @ Jul 14 2006, 04:23 PM)
so i need to how much the case support is it?care to elaborate? coz i have 400g hdd that i have not try yet..thanks
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ur is sata or pata? try sata coolermaster if u using the sata.
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so now i get it, companies like dell, hp use OEM products...and usually its quite noisy, but so far no problem, working fine only the noise can be irritatating sometimes..but it cant be called as rejected hardware right?? haha laugh.gif

anyway, dell uses philips dvd-rw, another oem product which cant be bought in the market... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ntlc87 @ Jul 14 2006, 08:09 PM)
so now i get it, companies like dell, hp use OEM products...and usually its quite noisy, but so far no problem, working fine only the noise can be irritatating sometimes..but it cant be called as rejected hardware right?? haha  laugh.gif

anyway, dell uses philips dvd-rw, another oem product which cant be bought in the market...  whistling.gif
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philips weird firmware not compatible with benq fw, curious why ler until now.

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