i already got UHS-I card..tested on my d7k...
so far...UHS-I vs class 10, not much difference...or maybe dont have difference at all

need to tryout other brand such as panasonic or Lexar

This post has been edited by iXora.ix: Nov 10 2011, 10:09 AM

It does.

Just that you don't see it, does not mean others don't

For example, for A77, the 12fps burst is cleared within 5 secs if you use the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-1 90mb/s card compared to other class 10/lower speed.

To note, some other videographer do use such fast cards for recording too

So, can see the difference now?

This post has been edited by chiahau: Nov 10 2011, 10:11 AM

How long does it take for Class 10 30MB/s to clear it on A77?

I do agree that a fast card is required for videography and burst frames. I do notice different between a Class 4 and Class 10 card when I review RAW on the DSLR. However, how's the different between Class 10 and UHS-1? Or 30MB/s vs 90MB/s on the DSLR?

16GB also not enough one, hehe, get 32GB, less worry.

UHS-1 (45MB/s) vs 30MB/s edition, you can feel slight difference, when you review picture and browsing through pictures, it's slightly faster, the green LED goes away faster; Let's say you're shooting RAW + JPEG, after your press the shutter, with UHS-1 (45MB/s), the green LED goes away faster, means it writes faster to the card. It may not be very important, but it's good when you're shooting action, or when you need to speed.

Not sure about the 90MB/s edition; I read some sites, it seems the 90MB/s gives no difference in performance, probably because the test is not using RAW + JPEG mode, which will produce larger file size in total (but still 2 files)? But the test, the guy tested BURST mode, both 45MB/s and 90MB/s card clears around the same time. If true, it would mean the camera itself doesn't support up to 90MB/s, but I can't be sure of that, just sharing.

Got, try monitor how fast the camera writes to the card everytime you take a photo; If you take JPEG only, maybe no difference? Try take RAW or even better, RAW+JPEG.
Also, try review/browsing through photos, the next photo should load up quicker and smoother.

Finally, try BURST mode at 6FPS, after the buffer is full, the fps should slow down already, let go and calculate how long it takes to write to the card and clears the buffer; The UHS-1 should be able to clear the buffer faster, unless that is.. a counterfeit?


This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 10 2011, 10:38 AM

wan to ask anyone got try non-nikon shop (3rd party shop?) to service camera? the BTS nikon center is refurbishing so i duno wan to send my camera to service or what... PKNS there is so far.

Using the 45mb per sec, roughly 15 sec, RAW + JPEG

With the 90mb/s, it goes down to roughly 7 or less..

If Jpeg, I think can go down to even 4 secs using the 90mb/s one....

Can't time it precisely, so this are my rough figures la..

Detailed testing can only be done on weekends, with a tripod and timer ahaha

I got 2x 16GB. Approximately 800++ exposures on 14-bit Compressed RAW and 600++ on 14-bit Loseless RAW for one card. That should be sufficient to cover a one day event. Surpassing the mark should charge more

Technically you should be right on the LED blinking, but how much does it affect my shooting? So far other than flash cycle time which is more crucial, I don't feel any bottleneck regardless of speed while shooting yet. And hell yeah, my default mode is 14-bit Loseless RAW on max megapixels.

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Added on November 10, 2011, 10:58 amWill be anticipating for the result of your proper test than assumption.

However, as refer to my post above, is there any bottleneck that should use 90MB/s than 30MB/s?

This post has been edited by vearn27: Nov 10 2011, 10:58 AM

If you have 2 X 16GB means already got 32GB lo, hehe; I thought you have 8GB and wanna get 16GB.
But having 1 32GB can be good/nice, if you're considering upgrading, got extra space.

May not really affect your shooting, but may give better experience and feel; Just like after you snap and immediately review the photo, the speed, but it's very very slight only. I think the more obvious if say you're browsing through your photos to find that photo or when you want to show the client/friends a certain photo, the overall performance is slightly faster; It's not really an issue, I can bear with the slight lag, but having a faster speed is "nice to have", it's not a necessity. That said, Class 10 also got many speed, from 10MB/s up to 30MB/s, the speed between 20MB/s and 30MB/s isn't really obvious as well, and may not be important to everyone. So, it really depends if you think the extra speed is nice to have.
When I purchase the UHS-1 time, I did consider whether should I just get the 30MB/s and save a little money; but after some consideration, I just get the UHS-1, after all, the extra speed can come in handy and also when transfer files between PC.

okey.. I didn't try to shoot raw + jpeg...will tryout later

then...maybe my card reader doesn't not support UHS-I card
will be invest another card reader..if budget concern XD

woahh... burst mode
i use single frame nia hahaa...
but i am still interested in getting a piece of 16gb.

my 8gb gives me 99 photos nia (i have 3 cards of 8gb currently)

I prefer to have multiple card with adequate capacity than one king card. 8GB is arguably insufficient, but 16GB should be it. In fact, the battery will go until approximately 30%++ from 100% after filling the 16GB. The Secondary 16GB storing JPEG should has sufficient capacity for extra spaces to store RAW if the 1st card is filled up until the battery fully drained. Well, that's how I utilize both my 16GB at the moment for event shooting.

Futhermore, if I buy bigger MC I need bigger HDD and HDD prices these days sky rocket until next universe

I... don't... really show... photos to my client.... ON THE SPOT

What King card , where got King Card, there is 64GB~128GB already. Just that if you plan to upgrade can "always" consider 32GB, not saying you must get it. Just suggest to you, not saying it's King or Must or Best. It's not correct to think like this, those that find 8GB sufficient will think why need 16GB, and so on, it's never ending. It's just a common suggestion for getting a bigger available size if the price is OK. For 8GB "supporters", as upgrade, they can get 16GB and keep 8GB as backup or in 2nd slot (if available), similarly, 16GB supporters can get 32GB as upgrade and put in slot 1. As I said, it's personal preference and choice.

Your battery seems drain very fast? You review your picture a lot or something? I filled the 16GB and still have more than 50% battery juice to spare; not yet cover the deleted photos. Or is it you're using battery grip battery or something?

Whether you show or not is not a matter... I'm just giving examples "lah"...
Plus, sometimes, it's not a matter you want to show or not; Sometimes, the client demand to see the photos, especially say a bunch of girls, after take, they want to see how they look on the spot, if not satisfied with their pose or they feel their angle not nice, etc. they will want to re-take. It really depends on situation, you can't say there's no such thing.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 10 2011, 12:01 PM

i see, nice speed nice card u had

If you're shooting in the northern or southern hemisphere, you don't even need CPL for blue skies. Shoot at any time of the day and the skies are beautiful !


Using CPL on 24-70 is fine especially on FX.

Actually, I think it's more tricky to use CPL on UWA lenses Vignetting is one thing but the problem is the CPL needs to be very thin to avoid unevenness of the polarizing effect. I believe on 14mm FF/FX, the thinnest CPL will still give you problems...

Errr... How does that work?

Due to the curvature glass on the 14-24mm f/2.8 lens, there is no CPL available. No point anyways as CPL does not work properly at 14mm on FX.

Damn. Just bought the 16GB CF 60MB/s from them about 2 months ago. That was USD 62.49 each and I had to buy 2 to get that price. Still cheap but now it's cheaper ! That price can already get a 90MB/s version.

Anyway, I suggest that you wait for Black Friday sales which will happen end of this month. I think it will be lagi cheap.

Oh, another tip... Don't use UPS because you will surely kena tax like I did. Use USPS International Express Mail with tracking that goes through our Pos Malaysia. More likely NOT to get taxed.

It's not normal. It usually means the lens needs lubrication service. Have it checked at the SC.

All eggs in one basket no good.

As for a quote lor from the 3rd party shop... See how much different it is from Nikon SC. If the difference is like night and day, go for the cheaper one. If not much difference, then I'd rather go for Nikon SC even though it's slightly more expensive. A piece of mind and should anything happen, you can bang table and demand that they fix it.

You using Hassy ah?

Gonna get a pair of 16GB Extreme pro perhaps.. price looks good!

If only 1 slot, what is no good?

If have 2 slot, doesn't mean only need to use 1 slot.

As I said, people who only need 2 X 8GB will argue and said why need to get 16GB. It's all about personal preference and choice. It's just a suggestion in case one day, one needs the extra space (e.g. have not clear the SD Card, and need to shoot some extra photos). Again, just examples......... pressure pressure

This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 10 2011, 12:54 PM

hahaa
it's just memory cards and the discussion can be so interesting...

for me, having a 2X16GB same class should be already 'king' hahaha
it can be more 'king' if 2X 16GB are multiply by 2 again..wow
64GB card XD

Yup. Spoiled my plan. I initially planned on getting more but with the current situation, would probably have to delay purchasing plans till next year. Now no choice but to go though 8TB + 8TB + 4TB + 4TB of junk and delete to make more space for more junk.

Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of having two slotted camera bodies... Yet. Just the conventional 1 slot.

Reason why I said what I said is I feel 16GB cards are just about right for 12MP resolution. I somewhat agree with vearn27's point. Was at the last Singapore GP and I found myself not having to change cards at all which was cool. I could continue shooting without any worry. Nearing towards the end, I swap for a new 16GB card not because the 1st one was full but just so that I do not have to worry about looking at the remaining space left on the 1st CF. I also think it's prudent to spread your eggs on different baskets.

Anyway, I actually debated getting a single 32GB CF but there is always a "what if" situation. If I should misplace or something gets corrupted, everything is gone ! Pufff ! Oh, there was also the price point prohibition. 2 x 16GB for me at that time was much cheaper than 1 x 32GB. 16GB still looks like a sweat spot.

Very interesting indeed, obviously everyone have different preference on size and speed, but interesting a certain preference can be the "correct" one.

If 2 X 16GB is better than 1 X 32GB.
Then 2 X 8GB is equivalent better than 1 X 16GB, or 4 X 8GB to 1 X 32GB.

There's no wrong or right, just each person preferences and choice. Maybe nowadays more people started and using 16GB, in future, 32GB maybe the norm/common, so using 64GB becomes a no good, then when 64GB becomes a norm/common, 128GB becomes a no good? Maybe it's better to have 2 X 16GB but then it's also arguable to have 4 X 8GB, or 8 X 4GB, etc.