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post Mar 18 2018, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Mar 17 2018, 09:00 PM)
Yeap,you are right. I purposely dial down the TX power because I’m sleeping directly above the router. The last thing I wanna get is some weird sickness from that.

Hmm, I’ll take note of it, although Ethernet is the primary network interface for both devices. Been uploading/downloading from Google Drive at around 700~800Mbps on average, only Ethernet can sustain near gigabit speed
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On AirPort routers previously, the power setting was at 25% sufficient without devices dropping off. Plus the nice benefit of not able to snoop on the wifi from outside biggrin.gif Or the thought of scary high Tx power well above the most conservative recommendations.

If you are mostly on an Apple ecosystem, AirPort Extreme abiet not updated for a while are still the better option. Even Asus mesh technology does not support seamless roaming between routers which AirPorts does. Recently moved to Asus (which is decent) and the mis-adventure was not getting an UBNT/Mikrotik and using AirPorts for wireless. On this forum at times get excited not rebooting routers after 30 days, with AirPorts its never until you hit a power failure which could be a year. And firmware is rock solid. Your Macs should get gigabit wireless connectivity on 5Ghz with the Mikrotik router, limited by your broadband.
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post Mar 18 2018, 01:37 AM


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QUOTE(XPS @ Mar 18 2018, 12:55 AM)
On AirPort routers previously, the power setting was at 25% sufficient without devices dropping off.  Plus the nice benefit of not able to snoop on the wifi from outside  biggrin.gif  Or the thought of scary high Tx power well above the most conservative recommendations.

If you are mostly on an Apple ecosystem, AirPort Extreme abiet not updated for a while are still the better option.  Even Asus mesh technology does not support seamless roaming between routers which AirPorts does.  Recently moved to Asus (which is decent) and the mis-adventure was not getting an UBNT/Mikrotik and using AirPorts for wireless.  On this forum at times get excited not rebooting routers after 30 days, with AirPorts its never until you hit a power failure which could be a year.  And firmware is rock solid.  Your Macs should get gigabit wireless connectivity on 5Ghz with the Mikrotik router, limited by your broadband.
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I love the Apple Airports. Had the old N model AirPort Extreme which eventually died on me after 3 years, a current but unused tower AC Extreme and 3 80211G Airport Expresses still running around the house for Airplay.

I eventually moved on from Apple's routers as it just won't work with Unifi's PPPoE even after I've untagged vlan500.

As for WiFi, they don't actually support seamless roaming but they do allow for faster AP transition through 802.11R, K & V which IOS devices also support.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202628

I think a few, maybe the more premium Asus routers also support some or all of the above.
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 18 2018, 01:37 AM)
I love the Apple Airports. Had the old N model AirPort Extreme which eventually died on me after 3 years, a current but unused tower AC Extreme and 3 80211G Airport Expresses still running around the house for Airplay.

I eventually moved on from Apple's routers as it just won't work with Unifi's PPPoE even after I've untagged vlan500.

As for WiFi, they don't actually support seamless roaming but they do allow for faster AP transition through 802.11R, K & V which IOS devices also support.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202628

I think a few, maybe the more premium Asus routers also support some or all of the above.
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Was discussed years back on this forum with the network gurus here (who are not posting much since) that Unifi PPPoE changed one fine day from working and then not supported by AirPorts due to the updated manner the authentication handshake is handled. Therefore you need a Unifi supported router to handle the PPPoE authentication. Airports are now used in bridge mode to a Unifi supported router.

AirPorts uses a proprietary implementation of WDS without the half bandwidth penalty. Roaming or switching AP is unnoticed so maybe you are correct in this aspect from a strict definition.

The 802.11 Working Group standards k, r, and v let clients roam more seamlessly from access point (AP) to AP within the same network.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202628

Asus mesh does not support, at least on the latest firmware released yesterday, seamless roaming since its still bugged in some places. The handover between routers would need some pretty clever algorithms.

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The challenge with Apple is they do not publish much the internals of what they implement. Would be a perfect solution if any vendor including UBNT/Mikrotik can provide seamless wireless mesh. Not keen to wire cat6 cables if can be avoided.

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post Mar 18 2018, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Mar 17 2018, 03:41 PM)
From my experience with powerline, if you are in a high rise building expect it to not work even if you have the best in class AV2000 or newer as i have a pair and couldnt get it to work. If at home it will work better because the distance between you and a potential source of interference is greater.

Even when it worked for me well, the best i got was 200Mb/s out of AV2000 with MU-MIMO and all sorts of trickery.

You'll do much better using mikrotik with directional antennas and wifi AC to pass through walls and floors than with powerline both in latency and bandwidth. The only time i use powerline is if it works is between my router and modem as long as the internet i use doesnt exceed the practical powerline bandwidth.

The only time you use powerline for LAN is when you have a concrete wall that is either radiation proof or you live in faraday cages because powerline is actually more expensive than wifi and the performance is worse than wireless AC.
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Living in two storey house, and wireless ac signal dropped significantly just a layer of wall(tm provided tp link c1200, which is pretty much almost no signal to rooms where signal need to penetrate 3 layers of wall, even wirelesa n 2.4ghz is like a tiny bar, can only reach 12mbps speed at best, or frequently drop

A layer Wall got 3 bricks thick, quite thick btw
Currently use existing wireless N repeater, but my experience with it not that great, plus it doesn't support 5ghz, it was for streamyx, 4mbps, but now just got unifi, pathetic speed lesser than 20, sometime its connection to router drop, only 3 meter away from router btw lol

Need to set wireless N only mode with 5ghz then at least can reach 32Mbps at max signal,


QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 17 2018, 11:28 PM)
Indeed, if 3-phase better test first. My house, 1-phase, I can get around 350mbps out of a pair of Aztech AV500 homeplugs. My auntie's house, 3-phase and plug points on different phases, about 20mbps with high packet loss with the same pair of homeplugs. Cannot even use for HyppTV, which requires a only max of 8mbps bandwidth due to the packet loss.

Of course, wired AP is always the best.

If have to use wireless repeater, use something with 2 radios. eg: 2.4ghz for the wireless link and 5ghz for the local wifi. This way you'll get the full speed from the link but you'll lose 2.4Ghz wifi.
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https://www.tp-link.com/my/products/details...PA8630-KIT.html

Is this gonna work for me? Powerline + wifi dual band,. If i confirm can use powerline..

Or i might do this for saving money,
Use my existing tplink archer d5 adsl router as AP, since it's also gigabit lan plus dual band wifi with pretty good signal

Just drag a cat6 from main unifi router to the old router for dual band wifi extend

Since direct lan cable AP > powerline>wifi repeater

I might use mikrotik router as main

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Not all wifi chips are created equal. The new chips from Broadcom has improved gain. High end routers should be able to manage what you described (chip + better antenna).

Not a fan of powerline. Mikrotik plus a good AP is probably more cost effective though if you can manage some technical configuration.
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 18 2018, 03:53 AM)
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Need to set wireless N only mode with 5ghz then at least can reach 32Mbps at max signal,
https://www.tp-link.com/my/products/details...PA8630-KIT.html

Is this gonna work for me?  Powerline + wifi dual band,. If i confirm can use powerline..

Or i might do this for saving money,
Use my existing tplink archer d5 adsl router as AP, since it's also gigabit lan plus dual band wifi with pretty good signal

Just drag a cat6 from main unifi router to the old router for dual band wifi extend

Since direct lan cable AP > powerline>wifi repeater

I might use mikrotik router as main
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That should work, but I've.no experience with homeplugs from TPLink. I've only ever used Aztech's. Whatever you do, avoid DLink. My neighbour bought a pair and it doesn't work 95% of the time. I replaced them with my old Aztechs and no problem. Maybe a bad unit but who knows.

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 18 2018, 11:11 AM)
That should work, but I've.no experience with homeplugs from TPLink. I've only ever used Aztech's. Whatever you do, avoid DLink. My neighbour bought a pair and it doesn't work 95% of the time. I replaced them with my old Aztechs and no problem. Maybe a bad unit but who knows.
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Dlink is top 1 on my personal blacklist

Have seen many enough how many dlink product failed
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post Mar 19 2018, 12:53 AM

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soonwai ,i had some problem with your auto refresh unifi ip scripts.
When i use it, it will terminate my connection,and getting new ip once.
And after that it will showing this in next line.
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waiting for pppoe-server
no such item
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Below is the terminal screen:
[admin@MikroTik] > /system script
[admin@MikroTik] /system script> run unifi_ip_range_60
Current IP: 147.158.198.82/32
Target: 60.0.0.0/8

147.158.198.82/32 is not in 60.0.0.0/8. Getting new IP. 00:00:10 delay
waiting for pppoe-server
no such item

After showing no such item,and it will stop running script.
(I am using the RB750Gr3)

This post has been edited by go626201: Mar 19 2018, 12:58 AM
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post Mar 19 2018, 01:45 AM


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QUOTE(go626201 @ Mar 19 2018, 12:53 AM)
soonwai ,i had some problem with your auto refresh unifi ip scripts.
When i use it, it will terminate my connection,and getting new ip once.
And after that it will showing this in next line.
(
waiting for pppoe-server
no such item
)

Below is the terminal screen:
[admin@MikroTik] > /system script      
[admin@MikroTik] /system script> run unifi_ip_range_60
Current IP: 147.158.198.82/32
Target: 60.0.0.0/8

147.158.198.82/32 is not in 60.0.0.0/8. Getting new IP. 00:00:10 delay
waiting for pppoe-server
no such item

After showing no such item,and it will stop running script.
(I am using the RB750Gr3)
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Seems I have the interface hard-coded.
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Change:
    :Do {delay 2s; put "waiting for pppoe-server\a"} while=( [/interface get unifi running]=false)
to:
    :Do {delay 2s; put "waiting for pppoe-server\a"} while=( [/interface get [$if ] running]=false)


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post Mar 19 2018, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 19 2018, 01:45 AM)
Seems I have the interface hard-coded.
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Change:
    :Do {delay 2s; put "waiting for pppoe-server\a"} while=( [/interface get unifi running]=false)
to:
    :Do {delay 2s; put "waiting for pppoe-server\a"} while=( [/interface get [$if ] running]=false)

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Can use already. Thanks for your helps.
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QUOTE(go626201 @ Mar 19 2018, 08:48 AM)
Can use already. Thanks for your helps.
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No problem. Just wondering what RouterOS you are on and if, in the running of the script or anywhere else, have you encountered a similar 'no such item' error but with (4) at the end. Like this "no such item (4)"
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 19 2018, 11:50 AM)
No problem. Just wondering what RouterOS you are on and if, in the running of the script or anywhere else, have you encountered a similar 'no such item' error but with (4) at the end. Like this "no such item (4)"
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I am using Version 6.41.2.
This is the first time i use for the scripts function,since i just used it for 1month.
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bought hap ac2, need wait 1 month

guess i need to start learning more about mikrotik in details
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 23 2018, 12:37 AM)
bought hap ac2, need wait 1 month

guess i need to start learning more about mikrotik in details
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Nice! Where did you buy it from? And how much?
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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 23 2018, 12:28 PM)
Nice! Where did you buy it from? And how much?
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CloudComputer mikrotik seller,

They are bringing it in, but not arrive yet

Search garage sale there find the seller pm for the price tongue.gif

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 23 2018, 12:31 PM)
CloudComputer mikrotik seller,

They are bringing it in, but not arrive yet

Search garage sale there find the seller pm for the price  tongue.gif
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Ok, thanks. I was planning to get hAP AC last week but thinking, maybe not, and wait for the hAP AC2.

One advantage of the newer models is that the IPQ4018 supports 802.11 Wave 2 MU-MIMO. But whether Mikrotik will support or how well they support it is another story.
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i saw synchroweb store web also for pre-order (but they never mention how long it gonna take). very tempting sweat.gif i wonder, will the 16mb flash will do the justice? hmm.gif

p/s: my bet mu mimo will be ready at v7 laugh.gif
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post Mar 26 2018, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(rioven @ Jul 12 2016, 08:09 PM)
Well for me, I recommend this firewall filter, it has some basic filtering but its good enough
Blacklist Filter by IntrusDave
My mikrotik firewall rules also a bit mess since I keep alter config over the years
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Recently, Dave decided to shutdown the service sweat.gif

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=...art=550#p650107

still got any good blacklist to recommend?

how about SQUIDBLACKLIST?

https://blog.squidblacklist.org/?p=1407


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post Mar 26 2018, 02:14 PM

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Yeah quite sad because his blacklist is one of the best for mikrotik, now im switch to squidblacklist. Im also using their some dns block (ads).
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QUOTE(rioven @ Mar 26 2018, 02:14 PM)
Yeah quite sad because his blacklist is one of the best for mikrotik, now im switch to squidblacklist. Im also using their some dns block (ads).
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Is Squidblacklist a dynamic list? It write into the memory or internal flash?



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