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squall0833
post Aug 31 2017, 10:45 AM

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unifi coming soon, i might change to mikrotik

hows the performance for wifi? is it better compare to most consumer grade routers out there? i see it doesnt have antenna, signal should be good enough right ?

I choose mikrotik, really need more control over network traffic
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post Aug 31 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Aug 31 2017, 04:24 PM)
Router wise, it's a no-brainer for its features. The RM130 router can do the same as the RM2k one. Subject to cpu & ram, of course.

But wifi is just above average. Mikrotik APs are fairly basic. They don't have the latest features nor the highest ACxxxx rating.

Off the top of my head, here're are a few good & bad.
- power is already at maximum 1w for the 2H and 5H models so that's good. Though sometimes it's better to have multiple lower powered APs.
- antennas are mostly 2dBi (RB941x, RB951x) so won't go that far on the horizontal plane (same floor). I'm using RB2011 which is 4dBi so that's better.
- internal antennas are not a problem. Rated sensitivity seems quite high.
- No 802.11k, 802.11r, and 802.11v for faster AP transitions. Only matters if you have more than one AP and if your device supports them. Asus already has some of this under fancier names.
- CAPsMAN or Centralised AP Management is really really good if you have multiple APs.
- Other than the RB2011, they are quite inconspicuous.
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will get one when i got unifi smile.gif

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post Mar 16 2018, 04:44 AM

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hello all mikrotik users
just wondering

hows the wifi coverage for mikrotik? decent like usual routers out there? or better?

mostly no comes with athenna, so just curious

and will there be hap ac2 model coming to malaysia? tongue.gif

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post Mar 16 2018, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Mar 16 2018, 05:05 AM)
mostly they use internal antenna, wifi coverage ok.

for home usage, can get a decent router like hEX, but u need pair it with another wireless ap like tm router for wifi.

or just get other model like hAP ac lite/ hAP ac which can function as all in one device.
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thx for the info

i wonder when will hap ac2 coming to malaysia,

that one looks like the one i need biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2018, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 16 2018, 01:57 PM)
Yeah, this new model is looking good, at least on paper. A quick comparison.

hAP ac Lite: Low power. Only single chain 5GHz. It barely covers my entire house with 2.4GHz.
hAP ac2: Latest. High power. Dual chain 2.4 & 5GHz but not available here yet. This looks good. Even the CPU, at least on paper, is as good as the hEXr3.
hAP ac: CPU not as strong as the ac2. High power and triple chain for both 2.4 & 5GHz therefore the fastest Mikrotik AP.

I think the hAP ac2 will be quite good for someone who just wants an all-in-one WiFi router. Have to wait for the local pricing. Maybe around RM350.
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so, for area that's not in coverage, i can use any AP or RP to extend right, as long they are connected to mikrotik, all are controlled by mikrotik right ?
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post Mar 17 2018, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 17 2018, 12:18 AM)
Yeah, any AP or repeater will do. Doesn't have to be Mikrotik. Use any old wifi router you can find to save cost. Also check garage sales. At one time I was using a TM-supplied RGX4400 which I bought from GS for RM50. The routing/control of traffic is all done by the main Mikrotik router. The APs aren't actually controlled by the router in any way. Unless you're using Mikrotik APs and CAPSMAN then the Mikrotik APs are managed by the main router.

If possible avoid wifi repeaters and use wired APs. Even using homeplugs are better than a wifi repeater. But I know, sometimes you just can't avoid it.
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Was thinking to use powerline plug but i heard that might affect radio users,. Not sure if modern powerline plug is still like that or not


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post Mar 17 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 17 2018, 01:45 PM)
First time I heard of that. You mean AM/FM radio? No idea lah since have none of those in the house.
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can cause interference noises to am fm radio, and even home theater speakers when near to any power sockets that has powerline network plug active

but not sure, maybe powerline plug nowadays fixes that

well i still need more research if decide to go powerline way, since my house is 3 phase power, might not work if in different phase biggrin.gif

feel like just direct ethernet + ap, but gonna need to drill holes :/

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post Mar 18 2018, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(System Error Message @ Mar 17 2018, 03:41 PM)
From my experience with powerline, if you are in a high rise building expect it to not work even if you have the best in class AV2000 or newer as i have a pair and couldnt get it to work. If at home it will work better because the distance between you and a potential source of interference is greater.

Even when it worked for me well, the best i got was 200Mb/s out of AV2000 with MU-MIMO and all sorts of trickery.

You'll do much better using mikrotik with directional antennas and wifi AC to pass through walls and floors than with powerline both in latency and bandwidth. The only time i use powerline is if it works is between my router and modem as long as the internet i use doesnt exceed the practical powerline bandwidth.

The only time you use powerline for LAN is when you have a concrete wall that is either radiation proof or you live in faraday cages because powerline is actually more expensive than wifi and the performance is worse than wireless AC.
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Living in two storey house, and wireless ac signal dropped significantly just a layer of wall(tm provided tp link c1200, which is pretty much almost no signal to rooms where signal need to penetrate 3 layers of wall, even wirelesa n 2.4ghz is like a tiny bar, can only reach 12mbps speed at best, or frequently drop

A layer Wall got 3 bricks thick, quite thick btw
Currently use existing wireless N repeater, but my experience with it not that great, plus it doesn't support 5ghz, it was for streamyx, 4mbps, but now just got unifi, pathetic speed lesser than 20, sometime its connection to router drop, only 3 meter away from router btw lol

Need to set wireless N only mode with 5ghz then at least can reach 32Mbps at max signal,


QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 17 2018, 11:28 PM)
Indeed, if 3-phase better test first. My house, 1-phase, I can get around 350mbps out of a pair of Aztech AV500 homeplugs. My auntie's house, 3-phase and plug points on different phases, about 20mbps with high packet loss with the same pair of homeplugs. Cannot even use for HyppTV, which requires a only max of 8mbps bandwidth due to the packet loss.

Of course, wired AP is always the best.

If have to use wireless repeater, use something with 2 radios. eg: 2.4ghz for the wireless link and 5ghz for the local wifi. This way you'll get the full speed from the link but you'll lose 2.4Ghz wifi.
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https://www.tp-link.com/my/products/details...PA8630-KIT.html

Is this gonna work for me? Powerline + wifi dual band,. If i confirm can use powerline..

Or i might do this for saving money,
Use my existing tplink archer d5 adsl router as AP, since it's also gigabit lan plus dual band wifi with pretty good signal

Just drag a cat6 from main unifi router to the old router for dual band wifi extend

Since direct lan cable AP > powerline>wifi repeater

I might use mikrotik router as main

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post Mar 18 2018, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 18 2018, 11:11 AM)
That should work, but I've.no experience with homeplugs from TPLink. I've only ever used Aztech's. Whatever you do, avoid DLink. My neighbour bought a pair and it doesn't work 95% of the time. I replaced them with my old Aztechs and no problem. Maybe a bad unit but who knows.
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Dlink is top 1 on my personal blacklist

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post Mar 23 2018, 12:37 AM

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bought hap ac2, need wait 1 month

guess i need to start learning more about mikrotik in details
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post Mar 23 2018, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 23 2018, 12:28 PM)
Nice! Where did you buy it from? And how much?
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CloudComputer mikrotik seller,

They are bringing it in, but not arrive yet

Search garage sale there find the seller pm for the price tongue.gif

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post Apr 24 2018, 10:35 PM

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Just finish basic setup for my new mikrotik router

Looks complicate, imma start to learn using routerOS from now on :3

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post May 3 2018, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(jio @ Apr 12 2018, 01:04 AM)
For those looking for hap ac2, you can get it from sublime for 299. I had mine for a couple weeks now (bought from oversea) for use at hometown. The 5GHz performance kinda low probably due to interference, not sure the root cause though (there were couple of dual band routers and other devices next to it). It had 233MB RAM, more than the advertised spec of hap ac2.

edit:  doh.gif I just checked mikrotik forum and plenty of ppl complaining about the hap ac2 wifi performance issue. I only use it with Digi LTE which had shitty speed at my hometown. And I thought interference & LTE congestion the cause for the shittier speed. Well, avoid hap ac2 for now.
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FYI, wifi performance issue is fixed on 6.43rc5 for hap ac2

smile.gif I'm using it, works great


Hello Sifus, some quick question about simple queue and queue tree

Can I use them simultaneously?

for example, currently I'm prioritizing 80,443 traffics as first priority over all others traffic on Queue Tree also can limit speed by what kind of traffics (differentiate traffics by using packet marks)

then use Simple Queue to do priority and speed limit for clients by local ip addresses (assign them static ip on dhcp and set specific ip address to control)

I'm still looking for a way to force clients to use a specified ip address by their mac address, blocking their network access if they manually change to other ip addresses (prevent them from changing their lan ip)


i tried and it works pretty well for what I need

is it alright to use it that way? any conflict?

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post May 4 2018, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(jio @ May 4 2018, 02:29 PM)
My hap ac2 is running on 6.43rc5 since last week but yet to retest the speed. Some user still experience poor performance on 2.4GHz band according to mikrotik forum postings.
You can block the manual IP assignment by setting the interface ARP option to reply-only and also enable Add ARP for Leases in DHCP server option. It won't prevent the device from accessing other IP on the same subnet though.
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i tried that before didnt get it work, maybe i should look into it again, maybe i did wrong back then

btw,

i have Unifi 30
is it normal having queues enabled slows down my speedtest.net result significantly? it stuck around 10-16Mbps,

but normal browsing, http downloads, streaming, utorrent, all still fast like normal at 30+Mbps, except doing speedtests

if i use speedtest.net, i get 10-16Mbps and response kinda slower

if use tm speedtest, sometime pop up error say firewall rules blocked it

when I enable back fasttrack (which also invalidate all queues), then speedtest back to normal


did i do something wrong at firewall rules and queue that affect it?

I'll post my routeros firewall rules screen later tonight when i back home.

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post Nov 18 2018, 01:09 PM

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hac ac2 user here with 300mbps unifi

wifi range and performance average, but still can 300+ if near router without any wall


direct cable with 35m cat6 can go up to 970mbps,

and not that expensive with rich features

recommended

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post Nov 24 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(ksking @ Nov 24 2018, 06:06 PM)
What channel r u using for 5Ghz?
I noticed my connection speed dropped recently, after tuning only realize it's channel issue...
Now using 5300 instead of auto to get back full speed... other channels having weird speed...
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i use auto wor hmm.gif
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post Dec 1 2023, 11:11 PM

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I found there's a problem with ipv6 and cpu usage on Hap AC2 cry.gif

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post Mar 5 2025, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ahlong @ Feb 26 2025, 08:44 AM)
Almost brick the hapac2 after upgrading to ROS7.18 - not enough space

Netinstall and everything back to normal. No fancy other package(s) installed previously. just wifi and ros.

Carefull to those still use ancient models
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laugh.gif i have that model and im going to update its firmware soon haha, then use it somewhere else

good to know

just got myself RB5009

 

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