Hi forumers,

I have no idea where else to post this except here..hope to seek for rational advises.

Here is the story...

I have just moved in a new condo unit and renting a master bedroom, together staying with my bf, a couple (renting the middle room) and another tenant for the small room. all 3 rooms are equipped with aircond.
before i confirm to rent the room, i have asked the house owner if all the bills are equally shared and the owner said yes, everything share equally so no argument.
but when we received the current month electricity bill, it costs almost RM300, which the previous months only about Rm150-Rm170 but no one is occupying the master room for previous months.

the problem is the couple who occupying the middle room are not happy with the high utilities and claimed that my bf and i causes the hike of electricity usage. we only on the aircond at night as we are out for working during daytime.

so here is their reason for refusing to pay equal share of the bill.
- their aircond was not functioning for the past 2 weeks.
- we are staying in high floor so they feel cold most of the time therefore they didn't on the aircond.
- so at the end they only willing to pay the least and master room and the small room have to pay most of it because we use aircond frequently.
here's their calculation. RM300/4 - the couple in the middle room will pay for 1 portion, and the other 3 portions bared by me and the single tenant.

btw, is that my problem that they don't want to use the aircond?
am i obligated to listen to their so-called reasons and pay more than what i'm supposed to? it was agreed that everything divides equally so am i the wrong one for not paying more than the divided amount?

i'm quite frustrated because it happened twice, the house i stayed previously and the current house. i don't understand why is it so hard to find nice housemates who are willing to talk nicely instead of yelling at ppl for those reasons which don't make any sense to me...

advise needed, am i the wrong one?

ayam poor so no pasang aircond.

but if can not agree than you either have to accept, move out, or chase him out nia...

seriously i don't think i'm wrong so why should i listen to them? they can afford to buy gucci bags, ipad, iphone but increase of 20-30 bucks can't afford to pay? summore we are sharing streamyx as well, the streamyx is actually my account, they said want to share so i share it with them, total bill divide by 5 person but the couple connect 4 devices and only paying for 2 shares..fair enough? i didn't even ask them to pay more and the line slow like shit with 7 devices connected..i just want to know am i wrong? if u were me will u pay what they ask for?

must b u torrent 24/7 wit heavily overclock pentium D pc paired wit 3 way SLI gtx480.

ask u landlord to install separate electricty meter in each room...

i think it's your fault.

People very save electric d but yet bill came out high amount.

Let say if they open aircond whole day and the bill came out rm 600. You also will not syok coz you have to pay extra too.
And also Master room need to pay more coz it's bigger room.


if that the case, put up notice to save electric. If the bill lower d. Can ask them don't complain coz they computer running whole day too.

This post has been edited by shinkawa: Sep 20 2011, 03:13 PM

you live with people

Then you share like ppl lah

no need care so much who use most aircond who use least aircond

Cost is for all share wan

No need so kiasu wanna calculate who use most electric

Is RM50 a month so expensive for a peaceful life?

if u care every sen on the road your life will be affected

mai need to be like singaporkian think about it

no need so kiasu live with other people just share the cost.

First of all, the previous month electricity bill so cheap is because only 2 rooms got ppl stay, the master room is empty. i rent a room with aircond but cannot on aircond, then what's the point i rent room with aircond? as i said, i only on when i go to bed at night, is that too much?
moreover, u rent a room but u dun use the aircond, why not u go get a room without aircond lar? the rooms got no meter, how can u accuse me use more than u? if got separate meter i won't argue so much but now the problem is i don't think i overuse. even if the bill over Rm600 i will still pay my share, i won't make noise as i already agreed everything share equally.

one more thing, my master room ain't bigger than their middle room, just with a personal bathroom that's it.

Maybe the couples are homophobic.

dis alone edi priceless......
so dun complain any more.....

u got aircond so people assume you consume more electricity. fact

to be more steady, and no hassle, just calculate it 4 days, u and ur partner, the middle room, and the single tenant...
basically if 300, u will be paying 50 extra if u dont mind..if ppl canot tolerate then u cant do anything, but u can cincai n let it go if just normal argument..or u can monitor ur usage oso, off the aircon for a day n compare.

n regarding the streamyx, tell them no torrent during day n night time...midnite then ok..or allocate each room with 1 IP add...

did u make things clear? i'm not complaining here...i pay my share, they are the one who making noise saying i have to pay more than wat is agreed..

I c.. sorry then. I didn't read you just move in. If all of you stay there long, bill suddenly rise then can negotiate la.

If this the case, then they cannot complain. If they don't like. Go buy or rent whole house.
About internet, I created a agreement that only can torrent, pps or download after 12 midnight.

You could try that

This post has been edited by shinkawa: Sep 20 2011, 03:27 PM

their room got aircond also wad...then i can't assume they use more?

convince the couple to use their aircon since the bill is share equally. maybe ask all tenants agree to set aircond auto cut off time from night till morning to make all tenant are treat equally.

never ever rent an air cond room becuz there will be arguments, only use air cond when u have your own house

I think you missed out an important fact in your argument. do you know that electricity is at cheaper rates for the first few blocks ? after that quota, it's a different rates all together. you need to talk to your landlord on this. everyone should pay an equal share. ..and stop sharing ur streamX, you won't know what they use it for.

This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Sep 20 2011, 03:29 PM

sounds like the couple came from rural area..

discuss with landlord, maybe you pay bit more but not most of the bills else they'll take such advantage and continue to demand for lesser pay (include water bill next)

if their attitude real bad, prob landlord may take action?

in the midst of upgrading the internet to unifi but am not going to share with them. i have enough bad experiences with these kind of unreasonable housemates. i spoke to my landlord before taking to room, he told me everything shares equally, but he refused to show up to settle for us regarding to this matter. sigh

with this kinda kimaks, u oni got 2 choice.

1. get off the house, look to rent elsewhere.
2. get the owners to cut off the aircond.

tell the land lord no one is gonna settle the electricity bill. he's gonna show up for sure.

u can revenge on the internet side since it's ur a/c, & i assume u hav control over the network & h/w.

1) device issue:
-set router to only allow certain mac address.
meaning if ur house-mate bought new toys wanna connect to ur wifi, will b block automatically.
-set number of channels based on 1 device per person.
-if router in ur room, set the router strength to minimum.

2) use QoS function to limit their speed.
eg, if ur line is 4Mb, limit them to 512.

3) wen u not really using the internet, reconnect often.
if they ask, say streamyx dc issue.

4) monitor the traffic, see what website they visiting.
just for fun, stalking. information gathered can be use on evil purposes in the future.

i'm already paying a lot for the rental, it's 850 per month, i don't mind paying more for electricity as long as it's equally shared. i use it i'm willing to pay. i just dun understand why they don't get it. keep on saying that they din use much so no way they need to pay that much. common, the room has no individual meter, n u rented an aircond room, u tell me u din use much then i have to listen? i can also tell u that i didnt use much right?

LOL!!! Brilliant!!! But seriously, if we were housemates, i dont dare to share internet with you... hahahaha

when comes to money issue, everyone will be selfish (not u la but in general). like I've said, probably bring this issue to the landlord then if they continue to complaint (lets see how much next month bill will be first)

my bf already blocked their smartphones from connecting to the wifi.
we talked nicely previously, asking them not to connect so many devices as really slowing down the internet.
then the bf said they only connect the devices but not using it...i was like...wtf?
then he shut it after that but the next day connect all devices again until we really dulan and block it..

they keep chasing me to upgrade it to unifi but seriously i will never share with this kind of kiamsiap ppl.

i dun wanna share internet wit any1 either.
i need all the speed for myself...& i still hunger for more speed!!

Our landlord also blur like sotong...

Yeah, homophobes can be quite kiamsiap at times.

technically, connect only but not using, will not drain the speed.
but also block, just for the sake to annoy them.

unifi 2 years contract yo....
u can bear them for @ least another 2 years?

the landlord knows about it, asked me what happened right after we had the fight. i assume they must have been backstabbing us and the single tenant in front of the landlord. i only asked the landlord if what he told me before i take the room counts, he said yes, he is the one who asked me to divide the bill to 3 and i pay my portion. i'm just following what the landlord asked me to do..but the blardy couple calculate in their own way and ask for more money from me...if u were me u song anot?

we see the difference before and after blocking...so i think it works that way? anyway i know nothing about that, just that my bf has been complaining the keep dc-ing from his online game once they connect to the wifi.

i know 2 years contract, but can transfer to another address right? i did the transfer for my streamyx from my previous staying place to the new place so i assume it would be the same for unifi? worse comes to worst terminate it and pay rm200?

Eh, now you talking about internet or electricity here?

electricity is the main thing....

exactly y i dun share internet even though i'm using unifi.....

ya, can be transfer, but need to pay a fee & will hav som hassle of coz.

then you can assume they use more also. it just that they are good in argument and you lost

His gf started shouting and then went to the room and cried... And continued shouting from the room.

And there we were trying to discuss and settle the problem amicably. But they remained stubborn.

perhaps yeah...i won't deny i on aircond every night. i already told the landlord i will on aircond to sleep, if i don't need it i wouldn't go for aircond room in the first place. they said they feel cold at night so they won't on aircond, but anything to do with me? u pay for it u dun wan to use is ur problem mah?i actually answered that, but the gal replied "if u cold will u still on the aircond to sleep"? i was like...huh? u dun on it but u still have to pay right? unless u can prove to me how much electricity have u used then i'm fine with it. truly speechless...at first we choose to stay with chinese housemates because we had really bad experiences with the previous ***** indian housemates, they only show us the electricity bills after few months and all faded so we hardly can see the total amount, 4-5 months pay one lump sum of money, which is about 400-500 for the electricity..

so u live at what room? at master? middle or small? i kenot brain.. how many tenant at ur rent house rite now?

You pay for what u used is fair, dun expect other tenant to bear the costs due to ur usage. There will be different rate for low and high usage of electricity. Please check your bills. There is very high chance you are the main reason why the bills went up the hill. You must be fair to other tenant also. If you are not satisfy then move out or buy your own house.

call them show the bill of past 10 months.
then average that out. (x)
y = monthly bill amount.

now every month, u pay y - x

settle.

first of all, the one who use the most is the single room tenant, he has been paying double before we move in the house, they argued even before we move in, same reason. they already take things for granted, in the current month the single room tenant stop paying for double and they start making noise.
can u teach me how do u calculate how much they use and how much we use? i don't see a problem for turning on the aircond at night when i sleep. the previous bill was 170, somewhere there, and this month was 290, increase of 120.

170 = 2 rooms usage.
290 = 3 rooms usage.

increase of 120 only and i have already pay for 100 bucks, isn't that reasonable?
shouldn't they are the one should move out instead of asking me to move out? since they dun wan to use the aircond, no they use but they claimed hardly use, seriously how true is it i won't know, in that case shouldn't they are the one to move out?

moreover, landlord asked to divide the bill equally, why should i pay more then?

Appreciate your comment on this matter but please do understand that he is harping on the previous month's bill when the house was hardly occupied and the master room was not taken. He claims that the previous bill amount should be the same as this month's.

Please also note that our usage is not high at all as we only turn the a/c on at 12 midnight and we are already out of the house early in the morning.

We have been very fair with them. They don't do housework and we always end up doing it.

If i could afford a new house, then this problem would not exist in the first place. Neither is moving out an option as an agreement has been signed.

All we wanted was to sit down and discuss a solution amicably but it was not possible as his gf started shouting and crying.

We are not confrontational. After a long day at work, all we want is to go back and relax.

based on my previous formula, device a strategy.

y = current month bill amount
x = average of 3 previous months

every month, u pay y - x
this sounds convincing enough to ur stupid house-mate.
at the sane time, using this method, when u increase ur usage, or if any1 increase their usage, u actually pay less per gain.

i will do that if i can get the previous bills from the landlord but i don't think can convince them because they are stuck with their own logic.

then for now, assume that the fast 3 months r 170 each, as they claim.
then from now on, do ur own monthly record.

not to be forgotten, electricity price just increased recently, no way i should bare the increase that set by government right?
we actually told him about that, but sadly they just can't process, so increase that set by government has got nothing to do with them...

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Added on September 20, 2011, 4:33 pmnot to be forgotten, electricity price just increased recently, no way i should bare the increase that set by government right?
we actually told him about that, but sadly they just can't process, so increase that set by government has got nothing to do with them...

This post has been edited by Nat0306: Sep 20 2011, 04:33 PM

i think that kind of people won't listen no matter how you explain to them. they will keep on arguing until you show them hard evidence.

Why don't you check if they use aircon or not by looking at their aircond compressor outside

You are TS dupe??

There are 3 rooms:
1) Master Room - Where we are staying
2) Middle Room - Scary kiamsap couple
3) Small Room - Single tenant

I also have to note that they always leave the water heater and toilet lights turned on for long periods of time. We do turn it off for them but they will turn it back on again and go back to their room.

Also, they do their laundry approx 4 times a week. And sometimes it is not even a full load. We do try to conserve electricity by minimizing the usage of the washing machine. We stick to 2 times a week with full loads. Including the single tenant.

Actually, we dont even care how many times they wash. it's just that they are so calculative and that makes us want to do the same to them.

this one is winrar liao lol. eat power like no one cares.



if the line sux, terminate, get broadband, or lan to your self only, other ppl wan use ownself subscribe.

aircond if use at nite reasonable lah, already agree liao share then want fight again?

if they everything calculative i sure move out one, no need headache with such ppl.

Hi there! I am her other half

The one to blame is the landlord and the middle couple.
Ask the owner to come out and settle the dispute.and ask owner to write a official letter to inform all bout seperate electric bill. which is equally devided.

put this into your argument
1 room empty + 2 room occupied = rm 150-170
3 room occupied = 300+-

it is normal from my point of view. before you go in is about 85 perperson.
after u move in it about 100 perperson.

reason might be
1: as one mention, the rate effect
2: streamyx( i assume they dint have internet before) they have more reason to use the electronic gadget. hence more power needed to charge /process.


but end of the day..if the agreement is equally paid, then they have nothing to argue about. it's up to them to use the aircon or not since they Agree to the agreement before move in.
Nothing much to argue cos the agreement stated how you all shud divide the bill, it just come to who decided to take advantage and who give way to prevent future arguement

their room is just opposite ours, i can confirm they did on the aircond but how often i'm not sure. if i know that they didn't on at all i will be reasonable and ask them to pay the least but the problem is they did use it but they claim they didn't use much..i dun want that kind of excuses unless they can show me how much they used. they don't like us to use so much they can tell us politely, we will listen and see if the next month bill reduces.

Bro, A/Cs typically uses 3 kWh to 8 kWh (depending on your A/C) of electricity man. If even if you switch it on for a few hours a day, your electricity bill can be very expensive.

If you want to know how much electricity you use, find a day to switch on ONLY your A/C and then stand outside the meter box and take the reading for 1 hour. Then you will know how much you need to pay.

If you don't mind to pay 50/50 electric bill with me, and don't mind me constantly sexing loudly with women, and don't mind me walking around the house nekid, I don't mind having you as my housemates if you really do do house chores.

I'm also not a homophobe so you don't have to worry about the problems like what your current homophobic house mates give you.

This post has been edited by s2peMocls: Sep 20 2011, 04:45 PM

ur right!!!! they kiam until dun wan to subscribe their own internet, when we went to view the room, the bf was there, i told him i will transfer my streamyx account and we can share, previously we didn't share with any housemates. so he is more than happy to say yes, but we delayed a month to move in to the new place, he has been asking another tenant when only we move in, this can prove that they can't wait to use the internet. first day we move in, not even unpack our things he already ask for the internet password. another tenant subscribed p1 wimax previously but doesn't want to share with him and he is not willing to get one for him and his gf for just temporary...

so for revenge, once our unify done installation i'm not going to share with him..what comes around goes around..they want to be so calculative i can be like that also...i have learnt my lesson, some ppl just not deserve to be treated nicely...we even offer meals, we cook and invite them to eat..they say no no...i guess they are afraid we ask them to pay for the food...

kesian the single tenant.

shud be divided per head instead of room.

b4 u move in:
170/3 = 56.67 per pax

after u move in:
290/5 = 58 per pax

previous month :
middle room + single room = RM150-RM170.

this month :
middle room + single room + master bedroom = RM300.

delta = RM120-RM150 for master bedroom.

*******

middle room logic :
single room/middle room = RM300/4, RM75.
master bedroom = RM300/4 x 2, RM150.


*******

proposal :
RM300/5pax = RM60.
master bedroom = RM120.
middle room = RM120.
single room = RM60.

reasons :
- everybody uses same washing machine.
- everybody uses toilet (lights).
- everybody share streamyx (router).
- everybody has their gadgets/handphones/PC/laptop.
- all 3 airconds have same HP (1HP?).
- everybody goes to office daytime, only at home at night.
- weekends everybody not at home (staying out of housemate hell).
- no additional usage of individual tv/oven/microwave/vacuum cleaner.

This post has been edited by pokchik: Sep 20 2011, 04:57 PM

that happened to my previous house, divide by 5. ended up every month we (both my bf and i) need to pay more than half of the total amount...every month bill Rm250-Rm350. their reason even more lame, they will go back to hometown during weekends (sometimes) then what they suggest is to calculate by days, how many days they not in, we have to pay for it....ended up every month i need to pay more than 100 bucks..no, a lump sum of 500 the least. what is unfair to us, the bf is not working, 24/7 at home, having 2 dogs inside the room which i assume his chiwawas need aircond to stay chill? truly tired and sick of it. thought can get a peaceful stay in the current house but still same old shit happened.

new (and improved) proposal : rent a whole house/apartment.

Apalah... 5 pages of finger point also don't want to do the obvious crap.


TURN ON ONLY YOUR AIR CONDITIONER, OBSERVE ELECTRICITY READING AT THE METER FOR FOR 1 HOUR. THAT IS HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY YOU USE

Now quit blaming your housemates lah. They moved in there first after all. They call dibs.

If you don't mind to pay 50/50 electric bill with me, and don't mind me constantly sexing loudly with women, and don't mind me walking around the house nekid, I don't mind having you as my housemates if you really do do house chores.

Btw, I use DD WRT router so I can see how much internet bandwidth each host uses. Unless you don't mind doing 50/50 on that too.

I'm also not a homophobe so you don't have to worry about the problems like what your current homophobic house mates give you.

as i said lol. sedikit ringgit also wanna kiasu =.= grow up please....

Just pay up. Its not worth fighting over.

lucky mine house apa pun tarak~ electrical usage lower then 20 everymonth..

just to pinjam thread.. what happen to the low the RM20 gov waive of program? now even 7.70 they also charge liau

I think the situation has not much chance of settling if the landlord does not come out and mediate. He was the one that agreed that the electricity bill will be shared EQUALLY! Sadly, the middle room is calculative, regardless od whether they use or don't use the air cond. Another sad point I noted was they are also not thankful that they are enjoying internet connection now. So far, the most reasonable way is to back track the bills for the whole year or rather as far back as to when the master room has been empty. Tabulate the average and the new tenant pays the balance. You can actually get the figures in a visit to TNB shop.

The new tenants arguments that does not tally to what the landlord says. My opinion is the landlord now is the culprit so the middle room tenant should be complaining and arguing with the landlord. The new tenants has grounds but so does the middle room tenants but if nobody wants to back down, then some one has got to move. If the tenants cannot cooperate, then that's a hell hole where all you are staying and I assure you everyone is going to suffer. would you like to leave the house daily with a grudge?

This is probably the reason why the master room is empty in the first place, the middle room tenants. I sometimes cannot understand the justification in allowing all to go through this for a mere RM30 to RM50 difference a month. In fact I also cannot understand why one wants to rent A ROOM for RM850 when he can rent a whole house for the same amount. Class because of all the facilities? I can assure you that the middle room will not budge as my guess still holds, the last tenant moved out because of this same problems and that's why the landlord is shaking his head and avoiding.

i don't see the logic there...reason:
- single room tenant 24/7 at home, he works outstation but seldom so most of the time at home with aircond on...i have no issue with him even though he uses the most as i'm using the aircond as well.
- my master room is not that really big as you think, merely bigger than middle room. i'm staying at Ken 3 condo, basic unit about 1000sf if not mistaken..some claims that master room bigger in size so consume more usage.
- asking middle room that kiamsiap couple to pay for rm120, they will just jump off from building i guess...their budget, below Rm50 per month.

sorry lor, it's not that i can't afford to pay that little money, i just don't see a reason for me to pay more than what i'm supposed to.
moreover if they talk nicely i would just fck it and pay but no, shouting and screaming make me even more frustrated, so y should i listen to them? who is she to shout at me without any logic and reasonable reason?

do u know the electricity charges different rate for every 100, how u want me to observe then? even if i get the reading so? end of the day do u know how much have i used? do u expect me to take the reading after i wake up every morning? dun forget they are using the same...

Honestly saying i was in your shoes before...when it come to me..i have no choice for paying it...for those idiots who use the electricity as simply as they wish. eventually i drop off the air-cond and bear with room fan.

now i facing another prob...is the internet. feel not fair the way they divide it. coz i and my fren paying the most since each of us have our laptops. the rest oni one laptop which running morning to night where two using one device. I am havent consider those using ipad or tablet to use internet. I feel no fair in sense i should be chargeable based on user. since i and fren oni user internet at night with those farkers downloading constantly. been over 5 months...untill now i havin spoke to any of the housemates.....all are very cold and arrogant bastards..

wat i can say to you is fight for it, or live with it or u can leave the place.

another proposal :

room days weightage total
master 20 40% 8
middle 18 40% 7.2
single 18 20% 3.6
18.8

payment :

master bedroom = 8/18.8 x RM300 = RM127.70
middle room = 7.2/18.8 x RM300 = RM114.90
single room = 3.6/18.8 x RM300 = RM57.45

i rented the room for 850 is because of the location. 850 for a house i assume it's a low cost budget house which i have to stay with those illegal residences and putting my own safety in danger?

apparently, there is no settling this.
only was is to throw all of them in 1 room, lock it, fight till death, gladiator style.

thanks for the useful information, i will get one for them just to shut their mouth.

I know how it feels...you can just tell them..because before any of you guys move in..you should agree at the terms and condition...not changing or crapping out stories...alright

truly understand fren...the couple are connecting one laptop, ipad, iphone and another smart phone...can afford to pay for iphone but can't afford to subscribe for unlimited plan?
i don't want to leave the place because the place is really comfy and also we signed a 1 year contract. i don't wish the landlord to kick us out also..i'm fine as i can treat them invisible. just don't use my internet, that's it....they thick face until shouted at me back into their room and continue use our internet..if i were they i wouldn't even use it. sigh..speechless..

we did, before agreeing to take the room we spoke to each other in front of the landlord..everything is clear..
he is just expecting the bill will be less than 200 every month. that applies only if 2 rooms but now 3 rooms occupied so isn't it reasonable for the increase?

Please do not share your internet with them...Terminate the connection with them. You use it for your self as much as you wanted.
When they asking about the internet connection, do tell them if they want it, they have to earn it (get it by them self) dun get your self in trouble as i see ur housemates does not respect you at all.

Aiseh, ini simple maths also want people to teach meh?

Lets say total usage is 300 kWh, and you use 200 kWh, you pay the rate based on 300-100 kWh lah. Of course you cannot make your housemates pay the 100 kWh rage since you surpass the limit already. The couple go back hometown on weekends of course will use less electricity lah.

My god I think more and more you're the unreasonable housemates.

This!

hello? they went back to hometown for 2/4 days per month but the rest of the 28 days 24/7 at home who uses more electricity?btw that's my ex housemates. if u think what they did is reasonable i think ur just the same type of ppl as them. we are supposed to see the monthly bill before we pay, but they purposely hide it until the wording faded, which is like few months later only they show us the bill and ask for money. i stayed there for 7 months, only paid twice for the electricity, total up almost 1k, each time have to pay a lump sum of 400-500. they calculate as what they thought is right and we have to pay without saying anything. is that fair enough?

moreover, i use 200kwh then i pay rate based on 300-100kwh?first of all u teach me how to take the reading first? since everyone is using the electricity at the same time, how do u know how much my room is using by just reading at the main meter?

TS, you just tell them you only use "fan mode". so it didn't consume electricity like in "cool mode".

i bet u didn't really read all the replies...am i not treating them nice? we offer meals for them, asking for gathering having steamboat together, they totally ignored..i pay more for the bill and they belanja me makan? next life i guess. yes u r right, normal ppl will be nice to whoever is nice to them, we do the same to the single tenant and he do the same to us, cook for us.

problem is who gonna start first...good question. they are the one who starting it first..i agreed to pay as what landlord told me to. they are the one who complain so much...please make things clear before commenting..anyway, thanks for ur kind advise.

i don't know what mode are they using but we are using fan mode with 24 degrees. aircond same power as theirs..i guess the best way is to ask them to install their own meter...i'm more than fine to pay more.

The problem is that these are not normal people. Also for your kind information, they started fighting and screaming first. These people, we give until they take for granted.

With this simple life skill of yours, all i can say is i wish you all the best.

100 + 100 + 100 = 300

50 + 150 + 50 = 300

123 + 27 + 150 = 300

40 + 140 + 120 = 300

10 + 10 + 280 = 300





I believe TS describe her tenant, to what best i can conclude, as "unreasonable".

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Sep 20 2011, 09:26 PM

no la. if you use fan mode, only got wind like the normal fan and your aircon won't cold. You just tell them you only use fan mode, so it don't consume too much electricity.

i think the best way is to ask landlord take away their remote control so fair enough to say they dun use aircond..but no, i suggested that to them but they refuse to do so because they still want to use aircond..what lar?

precisely, i don't know how much we use, so do they, so base on what they claim that they use lesser than us? if i got all the readings i won't be refusing to pay more seriously...if they are reasonable ppl they wouldn't have shouted at me like mad, i wasn't arguing with them, talked nicely at first but they didn't even give a chance to talk nicely together, since she raised her volume so why should i give it a damn to listen to all the nonsense? sigh..nvm..i will just try my best to reduce the consumption which i think wouldn't make much different. they forgotten the increase of electricity which affect household with more than rm70 in total bill a month, so i should be the one who pay for the increase? i guess they never read the latest news...

There is such thing as universal remote. Moreover, normally other remote still can be used if they are of the same brand.

By right and agreement, they have to pay equally (1/3) for they had agreed to the condition in the first place.

But if they are really that kiamsap, I guess the best way (other than moving out the house) is to install power meter at every power socket.

But I see new problem could arise from that.
If there are discrepancy between the total power meter reading and the monthly power statement, new dispute can arise.
It may be due to power leakage or it might be due to someone removing the power meter to use electricity unrecorded.

Unless the landlord are wiling to install power meter to measure power going to every room, there is no absolute way to measure who is using exactly how much.

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Sep 20 2011, 09:38 PM

i totally agreed...when i was studying i was staying in a house will all separate meter installed, never had argument for 4 years of staying...fyi, my landlord quite kiamsiap also i guess so i don't think he wants to install for us, moreover this house is more like a family house than those house just for renting purpose..dunno lar, if landlord refuses to do anything we cant do anything as well...all we can do is reduce the consumption as much as we can.

24 degree consume little power only leh, somemore at nite only, they also got use aircond, then blame kao kao?

keep bill so long then want ppl pay, tell the landlord kick them lar, totally unacceptable, saja nak cari pasal orang mcm nie

if OWNER dont want to settle this things for u guys , I dunno wat to say..just tell ur owner , set a new price tat include the eletricity and water ..lets say rm1.1k for master room with water and electric , use as much as u can ..the bad thing is u have to pay more than u divide among all. but the best things is everyone need to pay for the same

150-170 jump to 300 is normal becos 3 air con, plus u two i think will have computer right? the computer is 1 of the contributor as well...
understand this:
For the first 200 kWh (1 - 200 kWh) per month sen/kWh 21.8
For the next 100 kWh (201 - 300 kWh) per month sen/kWh 33.4
For the next 100 kWh (301 - 400 kWh) per month sen/kWh 40.0
For the first 100kWh (401 - 500 kWh) per month sen/kWh 40.2
For the next 100 kWh (501 - 600 kWh) per month sen/kWh 41.6
For the next 100 kWh (601 - 700 kWh) per month sen/kWh 42.6
For the next 100 kWh (701 - 800 kWh) per month sen/kWh 43.7
For the next 100 kWh (801 - 900 kWh) per month sen/kWh 45.3
For the next kWh (901 kWh onwards) per month sen/kWh 45.4

the more u used.. the rate increase ya.. previous month was 1st two level only now with u coming in.. the price now jump to 40-42 cent ya..

last time mine went back Hometown 1 month they still ask me pay for electricity ....i on super duper fire

I ask the dude tell me why i need to pay he gave me a reason he need to on the light so no burglar. But explain to me how you only on the light i need to fork out a share of RM100 ....

2 months later they call me azzhole and kick me out of the house ....these are the thing owes need to face renting a place to stay