Thank you all!

Big parking space really help. Some SUPER "EXPENSIVE" LINK houses(>2 millions) with 6 rooms can only park 3 cars, doesn't make sense~

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Added on April 24, 2012, 10:41 amYup, I want to park my BUS outside...

Haha, just joking~


This post has been edited by muzi0886: Apr 24 2012, 10:41 AM

A word of advice for the developer: have a heart for the middle class home buyers, some are first time home owners and hope to stay for a lifetime! If you put metal deck roofing, the noise especially from loud thunders nowadays we have often, is simply deafening and frightful. I once entered a house done up that way and the owner himself is a building main contractor, and suddenly the thunder hit, and guess what, it is like the whole roof turned into a huge cymbal -the crushing sound u get from the lion dance discs instrument, but it came reverberating down from the ceiling and seize you through and through. Where is peace for these ppl., even if they are willing to bear with it! You just don't know when thunders come, the only thing you do is to tell yourself - get ready whenever it rains, and don't hope not to be awake in shock if u are sleeping. If you have pets like cats or dogs, they will leap. For a contractor, one should believe that he already placed sufficient insulation to his son's home! Obviously, insulation didn't help at all- it just feels like nothing can block such huge noise!

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Apr 24 2012, 03:36 PM

I have seen a few high end bungalows with the modern type of metal deck roofing. So there must be a way to minimise the noise.

Not sure what type will KLK offer. This is not something that can be 'tested' before you buy. Once bought, if no good, can only cry.

Does anyone knows of any other developments offering metal deck roofs? Just curious.

the 'metal deck roofing' is meant for just the side yard 'roof' or is it for the whole roof of the house?

for sure, i know it's noisy..


future buyers of the newer Banyan phase, have to read the spec carefully before buying..


yup, this is one of those things that we cant test before buying..

Based on what you described, I could be forgiven for thinking it was an excerpt from a mystery/horror novel. Did the lightning actually strike the roof or was it a near miss. Had it been a direct strike on a roof with concrete tiles, it would blown a hole through it and probably set it on fire. Is it also a fact or an assumption that the metal deck roof was sufficiently insulated and yet it created such a deafening sound loud enough to even wake up the dead? I am not being judgmental, but just because he's a contractor, one should believe that he already placed sufficient insulation to his son's home? But then again, I MAY BE WRONG !

Almost all current selling Mahsing semi-d and banglo using metal deck roof.

All the Semi-Ds in Setia Eco Park use metal deck roofing (for Mel's info, it covers the whole roof). For all detractors of metal deck roofing, perhaps the article @ http://www.tampile.com/blog/2011/01/metal-...ng-vs-shingles/ will ease your mind somewhat.

ah.. thanks for the link, prozak ..

i have learned something new about metal roofing...


guess it's a good alternative instead of using roof tiles, which i find it very easily to break...

i renovated my car porch not so long ago, we had to change and add roof tiles to the extended roof..

the quality of the roof tiles that i have, is getting worse...

instead of replacing the old broken tiles, the workers had caused more other tiles to break as they walked over the roof tiles to paint..

Anybody has real experience living under a metal deck roof?

If really good then maybe can strip the roof of tiles (sell to scrap yard) and install metal.
Also more safe. Burglars cannot easily get in.

Lighting? We are talking about thunder sound, not lightning or how it burns. Thunder burns? Please offer meaningful discussion!

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Added on April 25, 2012, 12:39 pmIf you read the link given, you will see that it refers to the effect of rain on a metal roof and not thunder. Does rain make loud sound like thunder? Why didn't you address the issue, or are you not able to?

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Apr 25 2012, 12:39 PM

in brunei, all houses normally is built using metal roofing including the high end ones. under the roof, there will be a layer of insulation fibre (normally 2" thick or so glass wool) for heat and sound reduction purposes.

i've stayed in brunei for few years while working there and i can attest that the concept / effect is no different from concrete roof tiles. inside the house, not much noise can be heard. but if you happen to be outside the porch or in your master room when the rain starts to hit the porch roof, the sound can be unbearable (tik-tak like hitting the awning). but once the metal deck is covered completely with a layer of rain water, the sound somehow gets reduced.. and the best thing for owners are, break-ins via the rooftop will never occur

Before I proceed, please refer to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_there_be_thu...thout_lightning. Analyze what I'm trying to say before screaming bloody murder.


Thank you for bringing this up. It's all about insulation and its effect on sound. Of course any child will know that thunder is louder. Like I've said, for the sound to be ear-shattering, the LIGHTNING strike, that creates the sound of thunder, could be spot on or very close by. It's a qualified question which you are the one who have not addressed in a comprehensible manner, but instead chose to spew pathetic insinuations.
By the way, before I posted my comments yesterday, I asked myself "Does 'Supreme' have a sense of humour?" "Sure" I said. But I guess I'm wrong. In fact I had planned to enlighten interested fellow BSC forummers on the previous query about the party wall issue, but now I guess I'll 'let sleeping dogs lie.' Cheers!!!

This post has been edited by prozak53: Apr 25 2012, 03:29 PM

Well said and thanks for the info.

I personally like well supported info rather than 'personal view'

relax guys..just a discussion..

Thanks. The pleasure is all mine. I always try to do a little research before posting or commenting. While we would like KL-K to be more proactive, slating them with unsubstantiated and negative comments will not benefit either party. We can only benefit from BSC's success. If we have any issues, we should discuss them rationally and civilly. If I am wrong, I stand corrected.

alooooo...anybody got a latest progress photo?...hihihiih tqvm

Anybody selling the recently launched 2-storey shoplots at Bandar Seri Coalfields? Interested to buy a unit.

This post has been edited by loongchai: Apr 26 2012, 05:53 PM

Your reply: Lightning causes thunder..that's fine, but why did you proceed to talk about "blown a hole through it and probably set it on fire"? Are these my concern? For this, it is true that you need to be 'forgiven' for your mind has landed into some strange territory. Humor? Only an unsound mind can joke stupidly when an issue is of concern to buyers. No, this I see is an attempt to lead the discussion off track. I would rather go on and dismiss you altogether.

To those who supported you, let me counter you on the point of the need to do research before coming to this forum:
My own experience is true and granted, it may lead me to a wrong conclusion, It is up to sensible forum-ers to convince me otherwise based on what they know. Give info you did, but it doesn't give you the right to insult others!

To quote prozak53, 'It's a qualified question which you are the one who have not addressed in a comprehensible manner, but instead chose to spew pathetic insinuations.' There is no attempt to 'spew' pathetic insinuations' to whoever as prozak53 is quick to accuse. Do not forget that the purpose of discussion is to pull together our knowledge in order to learn and understand things better. Need me do all the research before coming here? If that is the case, this should be an info dissemination forum, not a discussion forum. In a roundtable discussion, people are free to give their views and stand to be convinced otherwise. To prozak53, you will do better to refrain from this misunderstanding, but then, again, who know your present mental state may allow you to dwell into 'horror' territory even on a simple issue like this?

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Apr 26 2012, 08:55 PM

I can go toe to toe with you on this issue to kingdom come, but I don't think I'll lower myself to the level of a juvenile delinquent.
Let me quote you...

"Do not forget that the purpose of discussion is to pull together our knowledge in order to learn and understand things better"

But you contradicted yourself by saying....

"Need me do all the research before coming here? If that is the case, this should be an info dissemination forum, not a discussion forum."


You mean to say that in a discussion forum there is no place for the dissemination of information? Knowledge without information? No wonder you speak like an imbecile. And leave others out of this, irrespective of which side of the divide they are on.

Also, thanks for worrying about my mental state. Rest assured that even if I'm a complete lunatic, I'll still be able to think more rationally than you ever will.

Chill out man!!! Don't let this episode devour your inner soul. On hindsight, had you subtly told me you feel offended by my horror novel comment, I probably would have apologised. It's not my nature to insult (in your opinion anyway) others. Didn't I take the trouble to research and inform you about the colour scheme of the Banyan? See, I'm not that bad huh! Gosh! Sometimes I just love myself. (N.B. Is that sarcasm or witticism? It depends on your sense of humour, right?)

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Added on April 27, 2012, 4:29 pmIt seems that a misunderstanding between myself and Supreme1394 has escalated into a cyber war of words. I feel it has created an atmosphere of disharmony in this forum. For that, I apologise to all and sundry, especially 'kengwei', whose noble effort started this forum.

I'm not on an egoistic trip or to seek self gratification. Therefore I shall cease and resist any temptation (or at least try very hard) to go on a tit-for-tat mission. In fact I may even let Supreme1394 take the last shot without me reciprocating (unless it's too personal).

This post has been edited by prozak53: Apr 27 2012, 04:29 PM

From the replies I have gathered, some establish developers are indeed using metal deck roofing for even bungalows. This shows that there are indeed better quality metal roof material and insulation techniques available in the market compared to the case I have gone through. However, this info came to me only later, and the case I went through was genuine, which gives ground to believe what I have seen and heard as a poor case of metal roofing and insulation. Hence, prozak53 should now be convinced that there is no attempt at insinuation at all, particularly at developers.

What he should have done should be, if he is in the know, to offer some info on this issue of insulation. Instead he showed 'indignance', and yet, refrain from giving a suitable answer. By talking about something else i.e. lightning - the cause of thunder whereas we are talking of the effect of thunder - loud sound, and by his further talk of the effect of rain, not thunder sound, on metal roofing in his links, he is saying to all readers of this forum that he is dodging the issue, that there is indeed a big problem over the use of metal deck roofing that he wouldn't or can't address at all! This amounts to casting doubts over the qualities of homes offered by the few big time developers that he has so eagerly named.
If I were a staff of any of these developers named by him, I would definitely take him on from here and question over his motive! For a simple reason : if he is genuinely innocent, he shouldn't put his foot into the discussion if he doesn't know about insulation, or if he did know something, what is his reason for withholding the info? Who is he truly trying to cast us against in this forum meant for home buyers? KL Kepong won't be fooled by this, I think.
Like me a post earlier, if you think he is somehow weak in his analytical capacity and is downright idiotic, he might be a happy person that no one knows what he is truly getting at. He rather downgrades his intellectual capacity to let you and I think that he doesn't know the difference between 'cause' and 'effect'. But this is highly unlikely.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Apr 28 2012, 11:12 PM