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Spanish Clubs FC Barcelona 2011/12, Goodbye Keiteeee!!

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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:11 AM, updated 14y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Fixtures and result » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « July Friendly - Sat 23 Jul 20:30 Hajduk Split 0 - 0 FC Barcelona Friendly - Tue 26 Jul 18:15 FC Barcelona 2 - 2 Internacional Friendly - Wed 27 Jul 20:45 FC Barcelona 2 - 0 Bayern M. Friendly - Sun 31 Jul 01:00 FC Barcelona 1 - 2 Manchester U. August Friendly - Thu 04 Aug FC Barcelona 1 - 4 Chivas Friendly - Sat 06 Aug 22:00 FC Barcelona 2 - 0 Club América CC - Mon 08 Aug 21:45 Girona 1 - 2 FC Barcelona CC - Tue 09 Aug 21:45 RCD Espanyol 3 - 0 FC Barcelona SSC - Sun 14 Aug 22:00 Real Madrid 2 - 2 FC Barcelona SSC - Wed 17 Aug 23:00 FC Barcelona 3 - 2 Real Madrid Gamper - Mon 22 Aug 20:30 FC Barcelona 5 - 0 SSC Napoli USC - Fri 26 Aug 20:45 FC Barcelona 2 - 0 Porto LL - Mon 29 Aug 21:00 FC Barcelona 5 - 0 Villarreal CF September LL Sun 11 Sep --:-- R.Sociedad 2 - 2 FC Barcelona UCL Tue 13 Sep 20:45 FC Barcelona 2 - 2 Milan LL Sun 18 Sep --:-- FC Barcelona 8 - 0 Osasuna LL Wed 21 Sep --:-- Valencia CF 2 - 2 FC Barcelona LL Sun 25 Sep --:-- FC Barcelona 5 - 0 At.Madrid UCL Wed 28 Sep 20:45 FC Bate 0 - 5 FC Barcelona October LL Sun 02 Oct --:-- Sporting Gijón 0 - 1 FC Barcelona LL Sun 16 Oct --:-- FC Barcelona 3 - 0 Racing UCL Wed 19 Oct 20:45 FC Barcelona 2 - 0 FC Viktoria LL Sun 23 Oct --:-- FC Barcelona 0 - 0 Sevilla FC LL Wed 26 Oct --:-- Granada 0 - 1 FC Barcelona LL Sun 30 Oct --:-- FC Barcelona 5 - 0 RCD Mallorca November UCL Tue 01 Nov 20:45 FC Viktoria 0 - 4 FC Barcelona LL Sun 06 Nov --:-- Athletic Club 2 - 2 FC Barcelona CDR Wed 9 Nov --:-- L'Hospoitalet 0 - 1 FC Barcelona LL Sun 20 Nov --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Zaragoza UCL Wed 23 Nov 20:45 Milan 2 - 3 FC Barcelona LL Sun 27 Nov --:-- Getafe CF 1 - 0 FC Barcelona LL Sun 30 Nov --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Rayo Vallecano December LL Sun 04 Dec --:-- FC Barcelona 5 - 0 Levante UD UCL Tue 06 Dec 20:45 FC Barcelona 4 - 0 FC Bate LL Sun 11 Dec --:-- Real Madrid 1 - 3 FC Barcelona CWC Thu 15 Dec --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Al Sadd CWC Sun 18 Dec --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Santos CDR Thu 22 Dec --:-- FC Barcelona 9 - 0 L'Hospitalet January CDR Wed 4 Jan --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Osasuna LL Sun 08 Jan --:-- RCD Espanyol 1 - 1 FC Barcelona CDR Wed 12 Jan --:-- Osasuna 1 - 2 FC Barcelona LL Sun 15 Jan --:-- FC Barcelona 4 - 2 Real Betis CDR Wed 12 Jan --:-- Real Madrid 1 - 2 FC Barcelona LL Sun 22 Jan 20:00 Málaga CF - FC Barcelona LL Sun 29 Jan --:-- Villarreal CF - FC Barcelona February LL Sun 05 Feb --:-- FC Barcelona - R.Sociedad LL Sun 12 Feb --:-- Osasuna - FC Barcelona LL Sun 19 Feb --:-- FC Barcelona - Valencia CF LL Sun 26 Feb --:-- At.Madrid - FC Barcelona March LL Sun 04 Mar --:-- FC Barcelona - Sporting Gijón LL Sun 11 Mar --:-- Racing - FC Barcelona LL Sun 18 Mar --:-- Sevilla FC - FC Barcelona LL Wed 21 Mar --:-- FC Barcelona - Granada LL Sun 25 Mar --:-- RCD Mallorca - FC Barcelona April LL Sun 01 Apr --:-- FC Barcelona - Athletic Club LL Sun 08 Apr --:-- Zaragoza - FC Barcelona LL Wed 11 Apr --:-- FC Barcelona - Getafe CF LL Sun 15 Apr --:-- Levante UD - FC Barcelona LL Sun 22 Apr --:-- FC Barcelona - Real Madrid LL Sun 29 Apr --:-- Rayo Vallecano - FC Barcelona May LL Wed 02 May --:-- FC Barcelona - Málaga CF LL Sun 06 May --:-- FC Barcelona - RCD Espanyol LL Sun 13 May --:-- Real Betis - FC Barcelona Scorers » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Overall 33 Messi 14 Fabregas 9 Villa 9 Xavi 7 Alexis 6 Pedro 4 Iniesta 4 Cuenca 3 Adriano 3 Thiago 2 Tello 2 Puyol 2 Sergi Roberto 1 Maxwell 1 Alves 1 Pique 1 Montoya 1 Keita 1 Abidal La Liga 19 Messi 9 Fabregas 6 Alexis 6 Xavi 5 Villa 2 Cuenca 1 Pedro 1 Thiago 1 Adriano 1 Alves 1 Puyol 1 Pique Champions League 6 Messi 4 Pedro 3 Villa 1 Fabregas 1 Iniesta 1 Xavi 1 Montoya 1 Sergi Roberto UEFA Super Cup 1 Messi 1 Fabregas Spanish Super Cup 3 Messi 1 Villa 1 Iniesta Cope del Rey 2 Iniesta 2 Thiago 2 Tello 2 Cuenca 2 Messi 2 Fabregas 1 Puyol 1 Abidal 1 Alexis 1 Sergi Roberto 1 Pedro 1 Xavi Club World Cup Championship 2 Adriano 2 Messi 1 Xavi 1 Fabregas 1 Keita 1 Maxwell This post has been edited by matyrze: Jul 9 2012, 05:43 PM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	History » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « On November 29, 1899, Hans Gamper founded Futbol Club Barcelona, along with eleven other enthusiasts of 'foot-ball', a game that was still largely unknown in this part of the world. He could never have imagined the magnitude of what that initiative would eventually develop into. Over more than one hundred years of history, FC Barcelona has grown spectacularly in every area and has progressed into something much greater than a mere sports club, turning Barça’s ‘more than a club’ slogan into a reality. Barça has become, for millions of people all around the world, a symbol of their identity, and not just in a sporting sense, but also in terms of society, politics and culture. Throughout the most difficult of times, Barça was the standard that represented Catalonia and the Catalan people's desire for freedom, a symbolism that has continued to be closely linked to the idiosyncrasy of the Club and its members to this day. Within the context of Spain, Barça is seen as an open and democratic club. And all around the world, Barça is identified with caring causes, and most especially children through its sponsorship agreement with Unicef. For a whole century, FC Barcelona has passed through moments of glory and pain, periods of brilliance and other less successful ones, epic victories and humbling defeats. But all these different moments have helped define the personality of a Club that, due to its peculiar nature, is considered unique in the world. With over one hundred years of history, there have naturally been many different periods, both in a social and a sporting sense. In the early years (1899-1922) , from the foundation of the club to the construction of Les Corts stadium, Barça was a club that had to distinguish itself from all the other football teams in Barcelona, to the point that it would come to be identified with the city as a whole. Barça soon became the leading club in Catalonia, and also associated itself with the increasingly growing sense of Catalan national identity. From Les Corts to the Camp Nou (1922-1957), the club went through contrasting periods. Its membership reached 10,000 for the first time, while football developed into a mass phenomenon and turned professional, and these were the years of such legendary figures as Alcántara and Samitier. But due to material difficulties and the political troubles of the Spanish Civil War and post-war period, the club was forced to overcome several adverse circumstances, including the assassination of president Josep Sunyol in 1936, the very person who had propagated the slogan ‘sport and citizenship'. But the club survived, and a period of social and sporting recovery materialised in the form of the Camp Nou, coinciding with the arrival of the hugely influential Ladislau Kubala. From the construction of the Camp Nou to the 75th anniversary (1957-1974) , Barça suffered mediocre results but was consolidated as an entity, with a constantly increasing membership and the slow but steady recovery, in the face of adversity, of its identity. A very clear sensation that was manifested for the first time ever in the words ‘Barça, more than a club’ proclaimed by president Narcís de Carreras. The board presided by Agustí Montal brought a player to Barcelona who would change the history of the club, Johan Cruyff. From the 7th anniversary to the European Cup (1974-1992) the club saw the conversion of football clubs to democracy, the start of Josep Lluís Núñez’s long presidency, the extension of the Camp Nou on occasion of the 1982 World Cup and the Cup Winners Cup triumph in Basle (1979), a major success not just in a sporting sense but also in a social one, with an enormous and exemplary expedition of Barça supporters demonstrating to Europe the unity of the Barcelona and Catalan flags. Cruyff returned, this time as coach, and created what would come to be known as the 'Dream Team' (1990-1994), whose crowning glory was the conquest of the European Cup at Wembley (1992), thanks to Koeman’s famous goal. International Dominance. From Wembley to Abu Dhabi (1992-2009) was when the club’s most recent developments occurred in between its three greatest achievements, becoming champions of Europe. Josep Lluís Núñez’s long presidency came to an end, and the club displayed its finest potential during the celebrations of the club Centenary. Following on from Joan Gaspart (2000-2003), the June 2003 election brought Joan Laporta into office, and the start of new social expansion, reaching 172,938 members, and more successes on the pitch, including four league titles, the Champions League titles won in Paris and Rome and the FIFA Club World Cup. In the season 2008-09 the arrival of Josep Guardiola as first team coach brought new energy to the club and they recorded the most successful season in their entire history winning the six titles that will be forever burned into the memories of all Barça fans. Success on the field has helped the club expand its social role and heighten its media profile. In the 2009/10 season, Guardiola’s second in charge, the Liga title was won for the second year in a row, and the twentieth on club history, setting a new record of 99 points in the process. The title was not decided until the very last day, with a game against Valladolid, and the celebrations went ahead that very same evening in the company of the fans at the Camp Nou. The grandeur of Futbol Club Barcelona is explained, among many other factors, by its impressive honours list. Very few clubs anywhere in the world have won so many titles. The Intercontinental Cup is the only major football trophy that has never made its way into the club museum, where the club's greatest pride and joy remain the three European Cup titles won in Wembley (1992) Paris (2006), Rome (2009) and the FIFA Club World Cup in 2009. Apart from winning Europe’s top title,, the Club also has the honour of being the only one to have appeared in every single edition of European club competition since the tournaments were first created back in 1955. Barcelona's many achievements in Europe include being considered 'King of the Cup Winners Cup', having won that title a record four times In addition, FC Barcelona also won three Fairs Cups (the tournament now known as the UEFA Cup) in 1958, 1960 and 1966. In 1971, Barça won that trophy outright in a match played between themselves, as the first ever winners of the competition, and Leeds United, as the last. Source: fcbarcelona.cat The Crest » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « There are few elements that symbolise an organised group more than its crest. From the very moment Barça was founded, the club had its own emblem that the players proudly wore on their shirts. It was the coat of arms of the city of Barcelona, a diamond shape divided into four quarters, with a crown and a bat on top, and surrounded by two branches, one of a laurel tree and the other a palm. This, even at such an early stage, was a way of expressing the club's link to the city in which it was born. This crest remained unchanged until 1910. Shortly after Gamper had saved the club from serious crisis in 1908, a decision was made to give the club its own differentiated crest. In 1910, the club held a competition between all the members interested in presenting proposals. The winner was Carles Comamala, who played for the club between 1903 and 1912, and was a medicine student at the time, as well as being a fine artist. And so the crest that the club wears to this day was created, although there have been a few variations. It is a bowl-shaped design, in which the two upper quarters maintain the St George Cross and the red and yellow bars of the original, which are the most representative symbols of Barcelona and Catalonia. The club initials FCB appear on a strip across the centre, and below are the Barça colours and a ball. So, what we have is a crest that honours the sporting dimension of the club as well as its connection to its city and country. Since 1910, the changes made to the design have been minimal, generally just modifying the aesthetics and the patterns used for the outline. The biggest changes came about as a result of political obligations. When Franco came to power, the letters FCB were replaced by CFB, to reflect the way the club was forced to use the Spanish version of its name. The dictatorship also obliged the club to remove two of the four bars from one of the upper quarters, thus excluding the Catalan flag from the crest. On occasion of the club's 50th anniversary in 1949, the four bars returned. The original letters were not recovered until late 1974, when the crest reverted to the original 1910 design. The present crest is based on an adaptation made by designer Claret Serrahima in 2002, in which the lines are a little more stylised, the dots between the letters have been taken away, the name has been made smaller, and there are fewer pointed edges. The lines in this latest design are somewhat simpler, to make it easier for the crest and the club's corporate identity to be reproduced in all the different formats. Official Hymn W1_XM6MKZ88 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Cant del Barça ("Barça chant") is the official hymn of FC Barcelona. It was commissioned in 1974 to celebrate the club's 75th anniversary. The words were written by Jaume Picas and Josep Maria Espinàs and the music was composed by Manuel Valls. The hymn was given its official debut on 27 November 1974 at the Camp Nou before a game between FC Barcelona and East Germany. A 3,500 strong choir was conducted by Oriol Martorell. On 28 November 1998, during the clubs’ Centenary, it was performed by Catalan singer-songwriter Joan Manuel Serrat at the end of a festival at the Camp Nou. Since 2008-09 el Cant del Barça has been printed on official Barcelona replica jerseys. Source: wiki This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 02:44 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	The Stadium Camp Nou Capacity: 99.354 Dimensions: 105x68 m. Opened: 24th Setember 1957 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « You can tell a lot about the success or decadence of a sports club from the type of facilities it uses. In terms of FC Barcelona, the club’s history can be clearly be divided into three main stages. In the early days, the club constantly switched between different grounds. In the second stage, the club was consolidated by finding a permanent home at Les Corts. And the third stage, and the construction of the Camp Nou, reflects the expansion and grandeur of the club on a global scale. The old Les Corts ground, inaugurated in 1922, was remodelled several times in order to find room for Barça’s constantly growing fan base. After the Spanish Civil War, the club started attracting more and more members every year, which also meant a considerably larger number of spectators at matches. This increased support was the inspiration for several expansion projects, of the south goal (1946), the north goal (1950), and the grandstand’s capacity (1944). But it was becoming patently evident that what the club really needed to do was build a completely new stadium, and therefore the board of directors combined these improvements to Les Corts with plans to make the dream of a new stadium a reality. The need for a new stadium From 1948, people were more and more keen on the idea of building a completely new ground, but this was not an easy thing to do, and it was necessary to convince the local authorities that a new stadium would be able to fit in with the plans at the time to develop the upper area of the Diagonal. It is often said that what finally convinced the board that there was no other option than the construction of a new ground was the arrival of the now legendary Ladislau Kubala, one of the finest players ever to appear for FC Barcelona. And although there can be no doubting that Kubala attracted more interest than ever in the team and meant the club’s spirits hit a new high, the decision to build was inspired just as much by the two League titles won in 1947-48 and 1948-49, which was before the great Hungarian had signed for the club. In fact, the first solid step towards a new stadium came in September 1950, fifteen days before Kubala played his first friendly match wearing his new Barça colours. It was then that the president of the time, Agustí Montal y Galobart, signed an option to purchase a site in the area known as La Maternidad, an option that was to be taken up just two months later. What followed was a turbulent period, as the Camp Nou commission decided on February 9, 1951 to change the location of the future stadium to the area at the top of the Diagonal, and this led to a series of sterile negotiations with the Authorities that did not seem to be getting anywhere. The matter seemed to have been shelved for good when Francesc Miró-Sans won the FC Barcelona presidential elections on November 14, 1953. The new president was a fervent supporter of the idea of building a new stadium as soon as possible and one of the first things he did after coming into office on February 18, 1954 was to locate the future stadium on the site purchased in 1950, rather than at the top end of the Diagonal. And so, on March 28, before a crowd of 60,000 Barça fans, the first stone of the future Camp Nou was laid in place under the presidency of civil governor Felipe Acedo Colunga and with the blessing of the Archbishop of Barcelona, Gregorio Modrego. The construction (1954-1957) The architects of the new stadium were Francesc Mitjans Miró, cousin of Miró-Sans, and Josep Soteras Mauri, with the collaboration of Lorenzo García Barbón. More than a year later, on July 11, 1955, the club commissioned the construction work to the INGAR SA company, who estimated the project at 66,620,000 pesetas, claiming it would take 18 months to complete. However, the stadium would eventually cost an awful lot more than the original estimate, eventually totalling around 288 million pesetas, an amount that would need to be covered by successive issues of mortgage obligations ((100 million pesetas) and short term bonds (60 million pesetas). This measure meant the construction of the stadium could be financed, but would leave the club in heavy debt for many years after. The inauguration The date on which the stadium was to be inaugurated was September 24, 1957. A special commission was organised whose task was to organise the kind of opening ceremony that the occasion warranted, with two people in charge of the operation: Aleix Buxeres (public relations) and Nicolau Casaus (organisation). In the Barcelona City Council’s Salón de las Crónicas, on Saturday September 21, José María de Cossío, a member of the Real Academia Española, solemnly declared the celebrations of the inauguration of the new stadium open. That same September weekend, a series of international matches were played at Les Corts and the Palacio Municipal de Deportes involving the club’s different sports teams. Those days will go down in club history, and were set to words by the great poet Josep M. de Sagarra in his sonnet titled 'Azul Grana', while an anthem was written in honour of the new FC Barcelona stadium, with Josep Badia putting the words to Adolf Cabané’s music. On the day of the 1957 Mercè Festival, the city was decked out in the FC Barcelona colours. The celebrations continued with the holding of a solemn mass and the blessing of the stadium by the Archbishop of Barcelona, Gregorio Modrego. The Orfeón Graciense choir then performed Händel’s ‘Hallelujah’ while the image of the Virgin of Montserrat was exalted. The president’s box was packed with the most important personages of the sporting and political worlds of the period, including club president Francesc Miró-Sans; José Solís Ruiz, general secretary for Movement, which was the equivalent of the ministry of sport at the time; José Antonio Elola Olaso, head of the National Delegation of Sportspeople; Felipe Acedo, civil governor of Barcelona, and Josep M. de Porcioles, Mayor of Barcelona. Although work on the stadium was not yet complete, more than 90,000 spectators were able to witness the event, which continued with representatives of all the major football clubs in Catalonia parading on the pitch, as well as members of the club’s other sports teams and the supporters clubs. The new Stadium Anthem was then performed and the first game to be played at the Camp Nou kicked off at half past four in the afternoon. FC Barcelona played a friendly against Polish side Warsaw. The first Barça line-up ever to appear at the Camp Nou featured: Ramallets, Olivella, Brugué, Segarra, Vergés, Gensana, Basora, Villaverde, Martínez, Kubala and Tejada. A different eleven took to the field in the second half: Ramallets, Segarra, Brugué, Gràcia, Flotados, Bosch, Hermes, Ribelles, Tejada, Sampedro and Evaristo. Barça won the match 4-2 with goals from Eulogio Martínez (whose 11th minute strike was the first goal ever at the Camp Nou), Tejada, Sampedro and Evaristo. At half time, 1,500 members of the Agrupación Cultural Folclórica de Barcelona danced a huge sardana and freed 10,000 doves. And so it was that a brand new period in the history of FC Barcelona had begun. Source: fcbarcelona.cat Barca Territory
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Players 1. Víctor Valdés Arribas Position: Goalkeeper DOB: 14-01-1982 Debut: FC Barcelona-At. Madrid (2-2, League), 01/09/2002 2. Daniel Alves da Silva Position: Right back DOB: 6-5-1983 Debut: FC Barcelona-Wisla (4-0, Champions League), 13/08/2008 3. Gerard Piqué Bernabeu Position: Defender DOB: 02-02-1987 Debut: FC Barcelona-Wisla (4-0, Champions League), 13/08/2008 4. Francesc Fàbregas i Soler Position: Midfielder DOB: May 4, 1987 Debut: FCB-Real Madrid (3-2, Spanish Super Cup), 17/08/2011 5. Carles Puyol Saforcada Position: Defender DOB: 13-04-1978 Debut: R.Valladolid-FC Barcelona (2-2, League), 02/10/1999 6. Xavier Hernández Creus Position: Midfielder DOB: 25-01-1980 Debut: RCD Mallorca-FC Barcelona (2-1, Spanish Super Cup), 18/08/1998 7. David Villa Sanchez Position: Forward DOB: 03-12-1981 Debut: FC Barcelona-Sevilla FC (4-0, Spanish Super Cup), 21/08/2010 8. Andrés Iniesta Luján Position: Midfielder DOB: 11-05-1984 Debut: Brujas-FC Barcelona (0-1, Champions League), 29/10/2002 9. Alexis Alejandro Sánchez Position: Forward Date: 16-12-1988 Debut: Real Madrid-FCB (2-2, Spanish Super Cup), 14/08/2011 10. Lionel Andrés Messi Position: Forward DOB: 24-06-1987 Debut: RCD Espanyol-FC Barcelona (0-1, League), 16/10/2004 11. Thiago Alcántara do Nascimiento Position: Midfielder DOB: 11-04-1991 First-team debut: RCD Mallorca-FCB (League), 17-05-2009 13. José Manuel Pinto Colorado Position: Goalkeeper DOB: 08-11-1975 Debut: Deportivo-FC Barcelona (2-0, League), 26/04/2008 14. Javier Alejandro Mascherano Position: Midfield DOB: 08-06-1984 Debut: FC Barcelona-Hercules (0-2, League), 11/09/2010 15. Seydou Keita Position: Midfielder DOB: 16-01-1980 Debut: FCBarcelona– Wisla (4-0, Champions League), 13/08/2008 16. Sergi Busquets Burgos Position: Midfielder DOB: 16-07-1988 Debut: FC Barcelona-Racing (1-1, League), 13/09/2008 17. Pedro Rodríguez Ledesma Position: forward DOB: 28-07-1987 Debut: FC Barcelona-R.Murcia (4-0, League), 12/01/2008 19. Maxwell Scherrer Cabelino Andrade Position: defender DOB: 27 August 1981 Debut: FC Barcelona-Athletic Club (3-0, Spanish Super Cup), 23/08/2009 20. Ibrahim Afellay Position: Midfield DOB: 2 April, 1986 Debut: FC Barcelona-Athletic Club (1-1, Copa Del Rey), 05/01/2011 21. Adriano Correia Claro Position: defender DOB: 26-10-1984 Debut: Sevilla FC-FC Barcelona (3-1, Spanish Super Cup), 14/08/2010 22. Éric Abidal Position: defense DOB: 11-9-1979 Debut: Racing-FC Barcelona (0-0, League), 26/08/2007 24. Andreu Fontàs Prat Position: Defensa DOB: 14-11-1989 Debut: FCB-Sporting Gijón (Lliga), 31-08-09 Background Staffs Head Coach: Pep Guardiola Assistant Coach: Tito Vilanova Goalkeeping coach: Juan Carlos Unzué Fitness coach: Lorenzo Buenaventura / Paco Seirul•lo / Aureli Altimira / Francesc Cos Doctors: Ricard Pruna / Daniel Medina Representative: Carles Naval Podiatrist: Martín Rueda Physiotherapists: Roger Gironès / Jaume Munill / Emili Ricart / Juanjo Brau Scouting and Tactical Analysis: Domènec Torrent, Carles Planchart and Jordi Roura Kit Managers: Chema Corbella / José Antonio Ibarz / Gabriel Galan Player Liaison: Pepe Costa Transfer Dealings In Cesc Fabregas - €34M, Arsenal Alexis Sanchez - €26M, Udinese Out Bojan Krkić - €12M, Roma Jeffrén Suárez - €3.75M, Sporting CP Gabriel Milito - Free, Indepediente Henrique - Loan, Palmeiras Keirrison - Loan, Cruzeiro Zlatan Ibrahimović - €24M, Milan Martín Cáceres - €3M, Sevilla Víctor Sánchez - Free, Neuchâtel Xamax This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 02:34 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Club Legends This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 02:27 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Honours and Records Champions League Winners (4): 1991-92, 2005-06, 2008-09, 2010-11 FIFA Club World Cup Winners (1): 2009-10 European Cup Winners Cup Winners (4): 1978-79, 1981-82, 1988-89, 1996-97 Fair Cup Winners (3): 1957-58, 1959-60, 1965-66 European Super Cup Winners (4): 1992-93, 1997-98, 2009-10, 2011-12 Latin Cup Winners (2): 1948-49, 1951-52 Pyrenees Cup Winners (4): 1909-10, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1912-13 Spanish League Championship Winners (21): 1928-29, 1944-45, 1947-48, 1948-49, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1958-59, 1959-60, 1973-74, 1984-85, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1993-94, 1997-98, 1998-99, 2004-05, 2005-06, 2008-09, 2009-10, 2010-11 Spanish Cup Winners (25): 1909-10, 1911-12, 1912-13, 1919-20, 1921-22, 1924-25, 1925-26, 1927-28, 1941-42, 1950-51, 1951-52, 1952-53, 1956-57, 1958-59, 1962-63, 1967-68, 1970-71, 1977-78, 1980-81, 1982-83, 1987-88, 1989-90, 1996-97, 1997-98, 2008-09 Spanish Supercup Winners (10): 1983-84, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1994-95, 1996-97, 2005-06, 2006-07, 2009-10, 2010-11, 2011-12 Spanish League Cup Winners (2): 1982-83, 1985-86 Mediterranian League Winners (1): 1937 Catalan League Winners (1): 1937-38 Catalan League Championship Winners (23): 1901-1902, 1902-03, 1904-05, 1908-09, 1909-10, 1910-11, 1912-13, 1915-16, 1918-19, 1919-20, 1920-21, 1921-22, 1923-24, 1924-25, 1925-26, 1926-27, 1927-28, 1929-30, 1930-31, 1931-32, 1934-35, 1935-36, 1937-38 (including the Copa Macaya (1901-02) and the Copa Barcelona (1902-03) Catalan Cup Winners (6): 1990-91, 1992-93, 1999-00, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2006-07 This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 02:27 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Userbar Wallpaper Download your hero wallpaper, Barca Best Moment and Barca Toon here This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 02:37 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 02:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	~Reserved~ This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 03:03 AM
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 03:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	OK guys, you may start posting now I've got some ideas to improve our front page so that it'll be more informative, and we can visit the first page from time to time. But probably because of these ideas, it causes the first page to be a bit messy But whatever, if you guys have some ideas to share, or you guys have something untuk disumbangkan, please be free to share, or you can PM me. Especially in Club Legend section. It really can tell us and other forumers about what exactly is FC Barcelona. I don't know why but not many people know our Legends. Guardiola is now famous because he is our first team coach. But not many know Kubala, Amor, Luis Suarez etc. etc. So I think our first page should have some notes about our legends. Oh, and one more thing, should we have our LYN Fan List? This post has been edited by matyrze: Aug 29 2011, 03:05 AM
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 03:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	yay new thread. add me in the list then.
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TSmatyrze	Aug 29 2011, 03:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	OK bro, later. Gonna watch RM game first
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 03:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	me too. zaragoza defense is shite. their keeper is awesome not bad? alonso goal
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uzary	Aug 29 2011, 03:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	hope this tym i get my name in the fan list btw goodwork matyrze. dun forget to list down the trophies that we already won this year, including the non official trophies lyk the gamper cups and audi cup.
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 03:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	madrid is trashing zaragoza.
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uzary	Aug 29 2011, 03:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	0-6..damm. im not surprise with the scoreline, this is wat madrid offensive capable of, ronaldo scored a hatrick. this season sure will be very challenging for us to win the la liga title.. one more thing it is hard for our player especially messi to win the golden boot this year by lookin at ronaldo scoring line so far.. but i hope the golden boot will be in favor of our player.. wateva it is, la liga n champions league are the main priority to win. hope we r muc stronger n better than last season.
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 04:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	i like alonso goal. ronaldo all tap in. tap trick. just saying. This post has been edited by sepulse: Aug 29 2011, 04:14 AM
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Peculator	Aug 29 2011, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Don't forget to add me in the list as well. Damn 0-6, left 1 more game for the table to be completed for match day 1. Sure RMA top spot for the first match day, we could move to top spot if we win 7-0, exactly sharp 7-0.
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bus3rd	Aug 29 2011, 11:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
Getting Started Validating 89 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: nou camp, middle earth	put me in the list too
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Innovation	Aug 29 2011, 11:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Hope Barca will hav a good start in this season.. Do add me into the list, thx, =D
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 12:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	oh mai maxwell oso not fit yet. bartra or fontas need to step up. anyway Selamat Hari Raya to all Malaysian Cules!
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Peculator	Aug 29 2011, 12:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(sepulse @ Aug 29 2011, 12:08 PM) oh mai maxwell oso not fit yet. bartra or fontas need to step up. anyway Selamat Hari Raya to all Malaysian Cules! Nothin' to worry about, we've got B team players. Young and energetic. BTW, Yeah, Selamat Hari Raya to you Malaysian Cules and all Malaysians. Esok dah raya, feel so sekejap.
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 12:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(Peculator @ Aug 29 2011, 12:21 PM) Nothin' to worry about, we've got B team players. Young and energetic. BTW, Yeah, Selamat Hari Raya to you Malaysian Cules and all Malaysians. Esok dah raya, feel so sekejap. just pray that Puyol & Pique will be back for Milan game. our B team just lose 0 - 2 to Villareal B anyway.
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barca96	Aug 29 2011, 02:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Looks like JDs is getting the nod over Bartra at RB. I prefer Bartra there. What time do Muslims usually start going to the mosque on Raya day? I go every year but somehow forgets. The match is at 5 here in Queensland, Aus and it's supposed to end at 7am. Hopefully praying only starts after that...
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Angel of Deth	Aug 29 2011, 02:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
Regular Senior Member 1,242 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Cheras	QUOTE(barca96 @ Aug 29 2011, 02:15 PM) Looks like JDs is getting the nod over Bartra at RB. I prefer Bartra there. What time do Muslims usually start going to the mosque on Raya day? I go every year but somehow forgets. The match is at 5 here in Queensland, Aus and it's supposed to end at 7am. Hopefully praying only starts after that... 8 am but usually the pray start approximately at 8:30 am but i don't know if this applicable to Australia or not.
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sepulse	Aug 29 2011, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Aug 29 2011, 02:18 PM) 8 am but usually the pray start approximately at 8:30 am but i don't know if this applicable to Australia or not. same here. normally around 8am..
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uzary	Aug 30 2011, 02:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	we wil play in just bout another 15min.. goodluck to out team n hopefully we can win big like madrid..
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 02:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Looking forward for the game.
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tzxsean	Aug 30 2011, 03:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
Lonely Driver Senior Member 5,608 posts Joined: Jan 2010	wow...xavi villa on the bench...sanchez fabregas and thiago starts
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Phonzy	Aug 30 2011, 03:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
On my way Junior Member 542 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Petaling Jaya	any live stream?
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 03:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Thiago scored. 1-0
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Innovation	Aug 30 2011, 03:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	any link to the match.. ><
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 03:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Here ya go: http://atdhe.tv/watch.php?id=44010 Added on August 30, 2011, 3:48 amAnother goal by Cesc 2-0 This post has been edited by Peculator: Aug 30 2011, 03:48 AM
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Innovation	Aug 30 2011, 03:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	woot, fab again..
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sepulse	Aug 30 2011, 03:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	oh my. we r playing 3 - 4 - 3. and we are dominating. sexy assist by messi. good goal by thiago..
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 04:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Woot 3-0 Alexis scored!
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Innovation	Aug 30 2011, 04:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	haha...nice one..even alexis buka puasa oredi.. n get booked..=.='' This post has been edited by Innovation: Aug 30 2011, 04:09 AM
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 04:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	4-0 DAMN Messi
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sepulse	Aug 30 2011, 04:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	nice pass from iniesta. totally awesomee
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Innovation	Aug 30 2011, 04:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	xavi on!...
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 04:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	haha 5-0 Messi again.
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sepulse	Aug 30 2011, 04:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	messi tap in lolll amazing. hw many assist from thiago already?? This post has been edited by sepulse: Aug 30 2011, 04:36 AM
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 04:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	We're second spot for sure.
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sepulse	Aug 30 2011, 04:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	done. 1st manita. thiago 1 goal 2 assist. awesomee. worth my hari raya sleep
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uzary	Aug 30 2011, 04:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	nice win.. dapat sebelah tangan 5-0.. too messi didnt get the hatrick, if not, we share the 1st spot with madrid.. feb scored again, n sanchez scored too. nice.
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Peculator	Aug 30 2011, 04:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(sepulse @ Aug 30 2011, 04:51 AM) done. 1st manita. thiago 1 goal 2 assist. awesomee. worth my hari raya sleep Yeah, it's worth it.
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barca96	Aug 30 2011, 01:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Aug 29 2011, 02:18 PM) 8 am but usually the pray start approximately at 8:30 am but i don't know if this applicable to Australia or not. Thanks but apparently in this part of OZ, they started fasting a day later thus celebrate Eid a day later which also means that Im fasting a day extra.. Messi and Fab really have a great connection don't they? I really thought we were gonna lose the match when I saw our line-up. 3 defenders??? 2 of which were midfielders... Thiago and Keita in midfield who are both not the ones you wanna play to protect the back 4 as they lose the ball more often than Xavi-Iniesta. What on earth was Pep thinking? Now I really believe we have time for every player. You know how nice it was to see Xavi, Villa coming off the bench? Compare that to the previous seasons when we had Bojan or Jeffren to come on in the match. It never excited me haha
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sepulse	Aug 30 2011, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	beast!
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uzary	Aug 31 2011, 12:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(barca96 @ Aug 30 2011, 01:42 PM) Thanks but apparently in this part of OZ, they started fasting a day later thus celebrate Eid a day later which also means that Im fasting a day extra.. Messi and Fab really have a great connection don't they? I really thought we were gonna lose the match when I saw our line-up. 3 defenders??? 2 of which were midfielders... Thiago and Keita in midfield who are both not the ones you wanna play to protect the back 4 as they lose the ball more often than Xavi-Iniesta. What on earth was Pep thinking? Now I really believe we have time for every player. You know how nice it was to see Xavi, Villa coming off the bench? Compare that to the previous seasons when we had Bojan or Jeffren to come on in the match. It never excited me haha i totally agreed with ur statement.. i used to think who will start in the first 11, where to put febragas, what bout xavi n so on.. now i understand with our current squad, we r muc more flexible n our player wont be too exhausted for havin to play every game from start to finished.
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EL Pistolero	Aug 31 2011, 12:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
Getting Started Junior Member 71 posts Joined: Aug 2011	Really like this quotes.. Cesc: "I really 8-2 (hate to) leave arsenal, but I don't regret my 5-0 (final) decision." LOL!
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sepulse	Aug 31 2011, 11:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(EL Pistolero @ Aug 31 2011, 12:19 AM) Really like this quotes.. Cesc: "I really 8-2 (hate to) leave arsenal, but I don't regret my 5-0 (final) decision." LOL! lol. gotta miss barca football for awhile. messi to captain argentina
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TSmatyrze	Aug 31 2011, 08:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Aug 30 2011, 01:42 PM) I really thought we were gonna lose the match when I saw our line-up. 3 defenders??? 2 of which were midfielders... Thiago and Keita in midfield who are both not the ones you wanna play to protect the back 4 as they lose the ball more often than Xavi-Iniesta. What on earth was Pep thinking? Now I really believe we have time for every player. You know how nice it was to see Xavi, Villa coming off the bench? Compare that to the previous seasons when we had Bojan or Jeffren to come on in the match. It never excited me haha As I said, Pep is fond to rotate players around, even if meant to reposition several players. Yeah for us its a bit odd, because we are so accustomed for players to have their position to be fixed throughout a season, or even in their career. But not with Pep. Messi as false 9, Eto'o and Henry played out wide on the flank, Iniesta on the left wing, Yaya as CB, Abidal as CB, Masch as CB, Keita as pivot, Busquets as CB. Even Cesc was played as false 9 ala Messi against Napoli. Plenty of evidence showing Pep's ideas on effective rotation. Not to say that I was not nervous when I saw Busquets-Masch-Abi defensive line for the first time I fully expected that either Montoya or Fontas would step in. But his final decision has surprised me as well. But Pep has proven that he is right, AGAIN.
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sepulse	Aug 31 2011, 09:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Aug 31 2011, 08:45 PM) As I said, Pep is fond to rotate players around, even if meant to reposition several players. Yeah for us its a bit odd, because we are so accustomed for players to have their position to be fixed throughout a season, or even in their career. But not with Pep. Messi as false 9, Eto'o and Henry played out wide on the flank, Iniesta on the left wing, Yaya as CB, Abidal as CB, Masch as CB, Keita as pivot, Busquets as CB. Even Cesc was played as false 9 ala Messi against Napoli. Plenty of evidence showing Pep's ideas on effective rotation. Not to say that I was not nervous when I saw Busquets-Masch-Abi defensive line for the first time I fully expected that either Montoya or Fontas would step in. But his final decision has surprised me as well. But Pep has proven that he is right, AGAIN. me too. i was like WTF when i saw the lineup. then pep proves me wrong. i wonder will this 3 - 4 - 3 works against bus parking team? or big team?
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uzary	Sep 1 2011, 01:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Aug 31 2011, 09:51 PM) me too. i was like WTF when i saw the lineup. then pep proves me wrong. i wonder will this 3 - 4 - 3 works against bus parking team? or big team? i think it is depending on the situation. i believe pep will improvise accordingly to the situation when we face the opponent. for me this formation is kinda an emergency formation where we hv lack of defender due to injury.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 1 2011, 03:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Actually I do think that Pep is looking to apply 3-4-3 as permanent formation in the future. No reason in particular, just my feeling. But for now 4-3-3 is our optimum formation, mainly because we still have Alves bombing down the right wing. Puyol is expected to play in the next match. That's a good news. Oh, and since no one mentioned it in previous thread, Barca now has NINE (9) representatives in Spanish NT squad. Even Montoya received the call up. LOL even Pep was surprised.
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MessiX10	Sep 1 2011, 10:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(sepulse @ Aug 31 2011, 11:04 AM) lol. gotta miss barca football for awhile. messi to captain argentina astro no live for arg vs venezuela Astro Guide International Friendly 2011 03 Sept 1230 Argentina vs Venezuela [Delayed]
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TSmatyrze	Sep 2 2011, 09:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	2iN4RbiU5z8 Our legendary icon 12 trophies as coach in 3 years.
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Redial	Sep 2 2011, 10:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Nov 2006	hey guys, i'm trying to find for a barca 2010 jersey in S size. anyone interested in selling the jersey or knows anywhere which sells one, please PM me? thanks a bunch! P.S. authentic jersey only!
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 3 2011, 12:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Argentina won 1-0. Header by otamendi after corner kick by messi. Hehe. About 3-4-3, I'm also surprised. I'm expect montoya or fontas, somehow both our 2 DM revert back as CB.hurm..strange..I felt this was a pep's plan all along.. He only use 1 specialist CB, and other two our midfield. Pep want to develop entire game as midfiled in future? I suspect. So when pep said he opted 3-4-3 as emergency formation, I dun believe 100 percent coz in future, after puyol's retirement, we might use only one true CB, wih 2 DM, and four midfield to ensure the ball always linger around middle of the pitch. Pep, u r mysterious..
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uzary	Sep 3 2011, 01:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(fcbarcelona-my @ Sep 3 2011, 12:24 AM) Argentina won 1-0. Header by otamendi after corner kick by messi. Hehe. About 3-4-3, I'm also surprised. I'm expect montoya or fontas, somehow both our 2 DM revert back as CB.hurm..strange..I felt this was a pep's plan all along.. He only use 1 specialist CB, and other two our midfield. Pep want to develop entire game as midfiled in future? I suspect. So when pep said he opted 3-4-3 as emergency formation, I dun believe 100 percent coz in future, after puyol's retirement, we might use only one true CB, wih 2 DM, and four midfield to ensure the ball always linger around middle of the pitch. Pep, u r mysterious.. wont it be too risky to our defense? so we r turning into a most midfielder team?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 3 2011, 02:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 3 2011, 01:32 AM) wont it be too risky to our defense? so we r turning into a most midfielder team? Well we won against Villareal didn't we? If we wanna talk about risk, is our 4-3-3 system risk-free tactic? What about other tactic? English long ball tactic? Catenacio? No tactic is risk free, or can guarantee victory. What a coach can do is to devise tactics that may minimize the risk. I think our now famous pressing game is Pep's solution for minimizing it. Of course the risk is still present, but again no tactic is 100% perfect.
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uzary	Sep 3 2011, 04:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	just wana share here. holland thrashin san marino 11-0 i love holland coz they play possesion n total football like our team implemented. anyway our play style was origin there.
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Innovation	Sep 3 2011, 05:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	woo.. fab is on fire today..too bad miss the last penalty...
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 3 2011, 05:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Spain won 3-2. Iniesta+fabx2. uzary..atm..that's what I'm felt. Pep might have an intention to develop a whole team of midfielder with or without 'true' CB. Or pep might use onli 1 true CB to cover up GK and let other 9 player with midfielder ability or attacking minded to control the game/pitch. I tried to figure out the reason why pep such reluctant to buy another experienced CB, instead always opted masch and busquet to play on CB whenever puyol or pique or both injured. As traditional formation, back four or three are very important regardless the formation 442 or 433 or 4231 and whatsoever. And at the installation of fab and rising thiago. And at the same time also, sold oriol romeu with buy back clause, and secure rising sergi roberto with clause 20M. At first I tought fab will be the replacement for xavi, but it seems not. Slowly and gradually, pep mix and let them play togather. I'm not surprise in next 3-4 years, such attacking minded fullback will slowly fade to let their posisiton fill up by these midfielders. In other word, pep want to transform pitch as one big training center with the ball pass around wide. We might see thiago at defense and and fab at opponents goal post. Ok, we have fontas and montoya. Yet again, I'm not surprise if pep installed them with attacking minded to marauding forward and let only one or no one to cover our GK. As la masia student, fontas, montoya and others understand the game..and pep will teach them more. Its like gradute with SPM in la masia, and now further study under pep to have a diploma. Its just my theory. I dunno..just to justifiy with myself the reason why pep not eager to find at least another 1 experienced CB. That's why I'm just keep quiet..because while he analyze game, we also analyze him. Hurm..the 'we are defender who attack, we are attacker who defend' mantra, from day to day..it makes sense. Perhaps it is the real Total Football that pep craving utmost. At least for me la. Hehe. Anyway, it just my opinion.
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sepulse	Sep 3 2011, 10:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	Kalkuta is in love with messi. Puyol is cleared to play for next liga game. miss him!
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TSmatyrze	Sep 5 2011, 03:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	A sad sad sad day for Cules worldwide especially who are on twitter. Barcastuff is closing For those here who doesn't know who he is, well, he (some speculated it's actually 'they') is the founder of the famous fcbtransfer blog. For me it is still the best Barca blog out there. And although the blog is now dormant, it is still the best source of documented stories during treble season. Yesterday I checked out his twitter as usual, only to find out he has already cut off his news feed, only to mention countdown to matches. Why all good things have to end?
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barca96	Sep 5 2011, 05:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 5 2011, 03:16 PM) A sad sad sad day for Cules worldwide especially who are on twitter. Barcastuff is closing For those here who doesn't know who he is, well, he (some speculated it's actually 'they') is the founder of the famous fcbtransfer blog. For me it is still the best Barca blog out there. And although the blog is now dormant, it is still the best source of documented stories during treble season. Yesterday I checked out his twitter as usual, only to find out he has already cut off his news feed, only to mention countdown to matches. Why all good things have to end? sad sad day. he was the only reliable english source we have.
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sepulse	Sep 5 2011, 05:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	yeah. i joined twitter recently just to follow em. and now its gone. any other good sources?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 5 2011, 06:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	There are plenty of alternatives. But to find the good ones is another story. Definitely nobody has come close to Pep the blogger in grinding out stories, interviews, stats about Barca. Even TB as the supposedly a continuance project of fcbtransfer has not actually up to the par IMHO, although they have more people behind the scene. They lack the interviews. Maybe its only because Spanish media have done lesser interviews with Barca players nowadays, but still how did Pep get all those interviews for his twitter feeds? Surely it came from Spanish media too.
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sepulse	Sep 5 2011, 08:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 5 2011, 06:43 PM) There are plenty of alternatives. But to find the good ones is another story. Definitely nobody has come close to Pep the blogger in grinding out stories, interviews, stats about Barca. Even TB as the supposedly a continuance project of fcbtransfer has not actually up to the par IMHO, although they have more people behind the scene. They lack the interviews. Maybe its only because Spanish media have done lesser interviews with Barca players nowadays, but still how did Pep get all those interviews for his twitter feeds? Surely it came from Spanish media too. pep? u mean pep guardiola himself write a blog?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 5 2011, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Haha no lah, the fcbtransfers founder registered under the name 'Pep'. So during discussion people called him 'Pep' too. In truth nobody really know his true identity, at least not in my knowledge after reading forums and other blogs.
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sepulse	Sep 6 2011, 12:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	lol lol. tonite brazil vs ghana and hopefully can see R10 in action. rumors linking us with neymar again, damn i dun like him.
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MessiX10	Sep 7 2011, 10:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	neymar..over-rated
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sepulse	Sep 7 2011, 10:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(MessiX10 @ Sep 7 2011, 10:18 PM) neymar..over-rated Sandro Rosell is flirting with him. i hope Barca wont go for him. we got our own cantera ffs. gerard, rafinha, and co. This post has been edited by sepulse: Sep 7 2011, 10:49 PM
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TSmatyrze	Sep 8 2011, 12:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Speaking of youths, we have a new youth sensation making his debut with B team. He's Grimaldo, a 15 y.o LB. Performed well in the last game, and provided a beautiful assist for Rafinha's goal.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 8 2011, 03:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Guys, apparently Barcastuff is back, this time on facebook. I'm really glad Link
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sepulse	Sep 8 2011, 08:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 8 2011, 12:52 AM) Speaking of youths, we have a new youth sensation making his debut with B team. He's Grimaldo, a 15 y.o LB. Performed well in the last game, and provided a beautiful assist for Rafinha's goal. yeap saw the game. 15 Y.o already playing for Barca B is insane.
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Innovation	Sep 10 2011, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	wonder if pedro or villa will start in the game..bt good thing those injured players r back with the team. 1-0 , xavi score.. This post has been edited by Innovation: Sep 11 2011, 12:09 AM
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faris21	Sep 11 2011, 12:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
Newbies Senior Member 4,453 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: La Masia	already 2-0, what a great start for Cesc, one goal one assist already after 15 minutes, our 2nd team too strong for Soceidad
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Innovation	Sep 11 2011, 12:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	-.- alexis injured? crap.... wee..villa is on
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ChaoGuGu	Sep 11 2011, 12:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
Getting Started Junior Member 138 posts Joined: Jun 2008	Fabregas game game scored. lol
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EL Pistolero	Sep 11 2011, 01:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
Getting Started Junior Member 71 posts Joined: Aug 2011	2-2 o.0?
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MessiX10	Sep 11 2011, 01:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	without messi...barca is not that good..hehehe
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 01:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	eh we screwed up. 2nd half was totally shite. keita is not a DM ffs and busi - fontas combination wont work for CB. theres Abidal & Masch available for that position. i hope pep wont play em out of position again. Villa is the one to blame for that 2nd goal. Agirretxe is good anyway.
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uzary	Sep 11 2011, 01:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	it is normal if we dont win, we cant expect to win everytime but i really frustrated how our players played tonight, all xjadi.. hopefully our nex match iinm against ac milan wont repeated this kinda of play.
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 01:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 11 2011, 01:55 AM) it is normal if we dont win, we cant expect to win everytime but i really frustrated how our players played tonight, all xjadi.. hopefully our nex match iinm against ac milan wont repeated this kinda of play. problem is, the lineup is macam all is out of position 1. keita really cant play @ dm. too many mistakes. now alexis is out for 2 month. saddddddddddd
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jakal sombong	Sep 11 2011, 01:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly Senior Member 880 posts Joined: Dec 2009	good news for ronaldo and the gang. provided they dont flop also 2nite.
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 02:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(jakal sombong @ Sep 11 2011, 01:58 AM) good news for ronaldo and the gang. provided they dont flop also 2nite. its highly unlikely they will slip point tbh. Getafe is full of madrid rejects
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uzary	Sep 11 2011, 02:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 11 2011, 01:58 AM) problem is, the lineup is macam all is out of position 1. keita really cant play @ dm. too many mistakes. now alexis is out for 2 month. saddddddddddd hopefully affelay can play oredy.. yes i agreed the lineup is out of position, after the 2nd goal,we hv few chances, but the always been caught wit the offside trap, then after sanchez was injured, enter 2nd half we played terribly, n we almost concede the a 3rd goal because valdes tido..
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jakal sombong	Sep 11 2011, 02:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly Senior Member 880 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 11 2011, 02:04 AM) hopefully affelay can play oredy.. yes i agreed the lineup is out of position, after the 2nd goal,we hv few chances, but the always been caught wit the offside trap, then after sanchez was injured, enter 2nd half we played terribly, n we almost concede the a 3rd goal because valdes tido.. the valdes tido part was really epic....did you see the way he walked. if that went in...its gonna be worst blunder for the year.
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 02:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(jakal sombong @ Sep 11 2011, 02:08 AM) the valdes tido part was really epic....did you see the way he walked. if that went in...its gonna be worst blunder for the year. villa pass is already the blunder of the year Puyol need to start vs Milan. nomore makeshift plsss
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uzary	Sep 11 2011, 02:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	valdes almost cost like this goal pvvyVKyx2SI
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EL Pistolero	Sep 11 2011, 02:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
Getting Started Junior Member 71 posts Joined: Aug 2011	Seriously villa has been played out of position for 2 YEARS! Left wing is not his natural position. Hes a goal scoring machine! Hope pep can solve this prob ASAP
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 02:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(EL Pistolero @ Sep 11 2011, 02:15 AM) Seriously villa has been played out of position for 2 YEARS! Left wing is not his natural position. Hes a goal scoring machine! Hope pep can solve this prob ASAP he can play as LW cutting from outside and shoot like he always did. now his problem is CONFIDENCE. u can count how many time he try to dribble instead of passing back. anyway...i still love his workrate. cant blame him since it was not his natural position. its time for Afellay to step up!
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uzary	Sep 11 2011, 02:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 11 2011, 02:20 AM) he can play as LW cutting from outside and shoot like he always did. now his problem is CONFIDENCE. u can count how many time he try to dribble instead of passing back. anyway...i still love his workrate. cant blame him since it was not his natural position. its time for Afellay to step up! agreed, i hope he'll (affelay) improved muc more than his 1st season.
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Peculator	Sep 11 2011, 04:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Just got home from work, kinda disappointed with the result. Next up, v. Milan @ home ground.
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Innovation	Sep 11 2011, 11:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	aiks, rm win pulak...abit disappointed, bt still, 2nd game saja...hopefully against AC will be better..cheers
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BoltonMan	Sep 11 2011, 12:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
Ass man Senior Member 1,769 posts Joined: Aug 2005	Ya only 2nd game. If RM gonna win 38 games then really nothing to complain about.
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Sifha238	Sep 11 2011, 01:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
Casual Junior Member 454 posts Joined: Oct 2009	Pep overconfidence or he underestimate Sociedad or want to rest key player for next UCL game ?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 11 2011, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	The whole team played badly. We had the opportunities to kill Sociedad off, but we didn't, and we had to pay for that. But one thing worth noting, Fontas was really shite. Hope Pep gives him some good lecture on what good workrate is. QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 11 2011, 02:14 AM) valdes almost cost like this goal pvvyVKyx2SI Ya I also when this happen. But to be fair he did save the ball QUOTE(EL Pistolero @ Sep 11 2011, 02:15 AM) Seriously villa has been played out of position for 2 YEARS! Left wing is not his natural position. Hes a goal scoring machine! Hope pep can solve this prob ASAP He's been playing there the whole last season. I didn't hear much complain back then. The whole team performed underpar, not him alone, and Villa's mistake has nothing to do with him being a LW. QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Sep 11 2011, 01:41 PM) Pep overconfidence or he underestimate Sociedad or want to rest key player for next UCL game ? Pep has never underestimated his opponents. At least that's the impression he always gave during media conference. But its inevitable that at some point during the season, Pep has to do some experiments. It turned out well against Villareal, but stumbled against Sociedad. This could happen. For me, it's the players' fault for letting the opponents a way back into the game.
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badboy_lun	Sep 11 2011, 06:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
Getting Started Junior Member 126 posts Joined: Dec 2009	what've he done. And i believe my friend said that Valdes not a very good keeper among best clubs
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TSmatyrze	Sep 11 2011, 06:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(badboy_lun @ Sep 11 2011, 06:16 PM) what've he done. And i believe my friend said that Valdes not a very good keeper among best clubs Why? Because he didn't hear Fontas yelling at him because of the ball? Then what about this? vrSpg9N1zlM Please be firm, and don't get easily swayed by general perception.They are not always right. Valdes = Casillas, or any other top GKs.
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sepulse	Sep 11 2011, 07:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 11 2011, 06:52 PM) Why? Because he didn't hear Fontas yelling at him because of the ball? Then what about this? vrSpg9N1zlM Please be firm, and don't get easily swayed by general perception.They are not always right. Valdes = Casillas, or any other top GKs. damn u beat me. i was just about to post that. anyway bad news for us. sanchez will be out for 8 weeks! DOOOOOMMMMEED Pele vs messi is funny. Pele:"Messi has confidence with just the right foot while Neymar plays well with his left and right foot ." according to Pele theory, Pedro > Messi
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Innovation	Sep 11 2011, 11:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	is not the 1st time that Pele belittle Messi, maybe bitter towards Argentina..LOL, bt nice 1 with the pedro > messi, haha
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sepulse	Sep 12 2011, 12:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	because pele was butthurt when messi says maradona was the best. here "Maradona is the best player in the history of football, no doubt about that. I never even saw Pele play, but I don't have to see him to know that Diego was the best." messi trolling Pele lol
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TSmatyrze	Sep 12 2011, 01:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Apparently Pele wasn't the only legend talking about Messi. QUOTE "When I watched Barcelona play United at Wembley last season they reminded of the old days. Lionel Messi got knocked down, got back up. "He didn’t roll around like Arjen Robben, the Dutch guy who was at Chelsea, who could roll back to Amsterdam. sos
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sepulse	Sep 12 2011, 01:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	"He didn’t roll around like Arjen Robben, the Dutch guy who was at Chelsea, who could roll back to Amsterdam." so much win! anyway, praying pep to start our regular 4-3-3 starter for milan game. valdes alves-puyol-abidal-adriano busquets xavi-iniesta pedro-messi-villa cesc,masch,afellay 2nd half. This post has been edited by sepulse: Sep 12 2011, 01:25 AM
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TSmatyrze	Sep 12 2011, 01:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Judging on current form, I think Cesc really deserves a shot to play alongside Xaviesta in 3-4-3. Although the system may be relatively new, I think we should focus on dominating midfield to isolate Milan's forwards. The only worry right now is Villa's and Pedro's form. Not that its a big deal, but its still a fact that both of 'em are a bit shy of goals right now.
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sepulse	Sep 12 2011, 11:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	Official: Zlatan Ibrahimovic has picked up thigh injury in training and will not leave for Barcelona-Milan clash with rest of squad damn. i wanna see zlatan vs us so bad!
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MessiX10	Sep 13 2011, 04:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 12 2011, 12:04 AM) because pele was butthurt when messi says maradona was the best. here "Maradona is the best player in the history of football, no doubt about that. I never even saw Pele play, but I don't have to see him to know that Diego was the best." messi trolling Pele lol lol messi himself is better than pele... pele is just so over-rated
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syazwan	Sep 13 2011, 05:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Casual Junior Member 448 posts Joined: Nov 2004	QUOTE(MessiX10 @ Sep 13 2011, 04:48 AM) lol messi himself is better than pele... pele is just so over-rated am not going to cause any argument here but wtf with this statement? go to kitchen pls. your nickname is full of gloryhunter's vibe. end.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 13 2011, 04:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Just found this article. Will the new Nou Camp stand on an island off the Barcelona coast, in the middle of the Mediterranean? Blaugrana fans say a resounding 'yes!' A FC Barcelona member has unveiled the Barça fans' dream for a new Nou Camp-- and it is unlike anything anyone has ever seen. Catalan architect Emili Vidal's project creates a Stadium at Sea; some hundred metres off the Barcelona coast, and connected to the city with a bridge leading to the Fòrum at Diagonal Mar, the new FC Barcelona stadium would stand on an artificial island and have a capacity of 150.000 spectators, as many as This project is the answer to the current seating problems at Nou Camp, where most matches sell out in days, leaving fans without a chance to attend. The interior design of the new Barca stadium would be curvy and wave-shaped, and two separate levels would be built, a 90.000-seater and a 60.000-seater. The stadium roof would evoke a fisherman's net. Designer Norman Foster had been reached to ask for a project for a re-estructuring of Nou Camp, but the designer of the new Wembley stadium found no way to significantly increase the stadium capacity beyond 10000 more spectators. The current FC Barcelona stadium can only hold 100.000 of its 150.000 members. Making Vidal's dream come true would cost as much as 1000 milion euro, but many fans have lent him his support and will campaign for the new Nou Camp - Stadium at Sea. To watch a Barca game there would certainly be something else! sos
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Innovation	Sep 13 2011, 10:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	hmm, later 2:45am will face AC d.... anyone will watch it?
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mr11	Sep 14 2011, 12:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
Regular Senior Member 1,017 posts Joined: Jun 2010	all the best barca tonight =)
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MusicForLife	Sep 14 2011, 01:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
Casual Junior Member 354 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	hope everybody is on form tonight.Can't wait.
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MessiX10	Sep 14 2011, 02:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(syazwan @ Sep 13 2011, 05:21 AM) am not going to cause any argument here but wtf with this statement? go to kitchen pls. your nickname is full of gloryhunter's vibe. end. Lol whats wrong with u? u're so weird my nickname is full of gloryhunter's vibe? -.-" i say messi is better than pele <---wtf with this statement? u go to the kitchen pls yeah messi is better than pele u butthurt? : ) Added on September 14, 2011, 2:13 am QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 13 2011, 10:47 PM) hmm, later 2:45am will face AC d.... anyone will watch it? i'm going to watch this with my friends cant wait ! This post has been edited by MessiX10: Sep 15 2011, 12:10 AM
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Innovation	Sep 14 2011, 02:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	lol..so fast let ac masuk d...@.@
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solidsnake_84	Sep 14 2011, 02:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
CLIMAX FORM Senior Member 1,474 posts Joined: Nov 2005	1st min already conceded. hopefully we can win or at least draw
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Innovation	Sep 14 2011, 03:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	YES!!! equalize d
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MusicForLife	Sep 14 2011, 03:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Casual Junior Member 354 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	Hope we can do better on second half..!come on barca!!
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TSmatyrze	Sep 14 2011, 03:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Really slow start to the match,in fact we conceded a goal. Thankfully they equalized, but godd***it, did Iniesta injured his thigh again??
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Innovation	Sep 14 2011, 03:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	dayum, 1st alexis and now iniesta..crap...><""
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MusicForLife	Sep 14 2011, 03:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Casual Junior Member 354 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	Villa scores!!wonderful goal...!
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Innovation	Sep 14 2011, 04:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	is a draw for today...hmm,
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MusicForLife	Sep 14 2011, 04:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Casual Junior Member 354 posts Joined: May 2008 From: Penang	Sad...good night everyone..
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uzary	Sep 14 2011, 04:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	aduh.. a draw again.. demm, messi shud hv scored that chance he had. hopefully we improved more after this.. this isnt really a gud sign.. hopefully iniesta is ok.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 14 2011, 04:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Only a draw, but I still think we were the better side. We literally pinned them in their own penalty box for the whole game. I highly doubt Cassano even had touched the ball. Oh well
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uzary	Sep 14 2011, 04:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 14 2011, 04:43 AM) Only a draw, but I still think we were the better side. We literally pinned them in their own penalty box for the whole game. I highly doubt Cassano even had touched the ball. Oh well that is why sometime i dun feel good bout bein a champion as expectation is high.. indeed we were the better side, but hopefully we play at our best after this. btw glad affelay is back , he shud has scored that one chance, n may nothing serious happen to iniesta..
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SUSamon_meiz	Sep 14 2011, 04:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	i think the strategy that milan applied,really pay off.they really closing any space for the any pass or thru ball into the box
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myhotgary2	Sep 14 2011, 05:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
Joined: Yesterday Senior Member 617 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: You Kay?	shows that we really miss pique..Puyol obviously not match fit.. keita is not providing enough cover at DM.. Abidal had to come in countless times.. I think dani-masch-abidal-maxwell/adriano would be better.. while sergio plays where he plays best. Nesta is still one of the best defenders around, and he's wat? 58?
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bwin999	Sep 14 2011, 06:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
Enthusiast Senior Member 886 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: Klang	TMLky4-rvYA
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BoltonMan	Sep 14 2011, 08:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
Ass man Senior Member 1,769 posts Joined: Aug 2005	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 14 2011, 04:51 AM) that is why sometime i dun feel good bout bein a champion as expectation is high.. indeed we were the better side, but hopefully we play at our best after this. btw glad affelay is back , he shud has scored that one chance, n may nothing serious happen to iniesta.. yes, a lot teams will play barcelona and keep thinking they have nothing to lose as they play against the world best team right now ...
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MrFay	Sep 14 2011, 11:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: MALAYSIA!!	QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:56 AM) shows that we really miss pique..Puyol obviously not match fit.. keita is not providing enough cover at DM.. Abidal had to come in countless times.. I think dani-masch-abidal-maxwell/adriano would be better.. while sergio plays where he plays best. Nesta is still one of the best defenders around, and he's wat? 58? LOL, nesta is 35 years old btw, in milan, you can expect oldies to perform brilliantly, like maldini, gattuso and ambrosini all played against liverpool back in 2007 at the age of above 30.. im just glad to see how messi frustrated after a challenge from nesta from an angle against abbiati..nesta did really well in his debut against messi
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uzary	Sep 14 2011, 11:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	oh no, more bad news for us, Andres Iniesta will be sidelined for around a month after suffering an injury during Barcelona's Champions League draw with AC Milan, the Primera Division club have confirmed. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...a-month?cc=4716
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jakal sombong	Sep 14 2011, 01:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly Senior Member 880 posts Joined: Dec 2009	the team were really poor in corner defense and aerial challenges. in the past game against madrid they would almost scored 3-4 goals from the corner. WTH !!!! and now thiago silva proves that point.
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SUSamon_meiz	Sep 14 2011, 02:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(jakal sombong @ Sep 14 2011, 01:41 PM) the team were really poor in corner defense and aerial challenges. in the past game against madrid they would almost scored 3-4 goals from the corner. WTH !!!! and now thiago silva proves that point. agree. eventhough in the first half we attacked a lot,but when milan try to counter attack,damn lots of space down there.and valdes aint convincing either. like somebody said before,we really miss pique. i got to say,milan's really good.their back four really hard to penetrate.and seedorf
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MrFay	Sep 14 2011, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: MALAYSIA!!	QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Sep 14 2011, 02:48 PM) agree. eventhough in the first half we attacked a lot,but when milan try to counter attack,damn lots of space down there.and valdes aint convincing either. like somebody said before,we really miss pique. i got to say,milan's really good.their back four really hard to penetrate.and seedorf at 35 years old, he never like quitting football eh? nesta as well..
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Innovation	Sep 14 2011, 07:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	credit mz give to those veteran AC players: seedorf, nesta....they rly play well... nw seem we gt hand full of injury players with us, hopefully pep can find some solution with can recover back from the recent 2 draw game.. =)
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sepulse	Sep 14 2011, 08:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	missed the game. downloading it right now. i wonder why pep keep playing busquets @ CB and keita @ DM ? anyway, wonderful goal by pato. kudos!
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TSmatyrze	Sep 14 2011, 10:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	IMHO we were just unfortunate. Had Abidal didn't concede the corner easily, we would have win. Not taking anything away from Milan, as they also played well, especially Nesta, but the fact that we conquered the game from start to finish shows that there was nothing wrong with Pep's system. His players fought well from a goal down, and were going to win the match only to be cancelled by the last play of the match. We failed to win, but not because of our system. QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ Sep 14 2011, 05:56 AM) Nesta is still one of the best defenders around, and he's wat? 58? LOL. But he really played well. A classy defender he is.
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sepulse	Sep 15 2011, 12:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 14 2011, 10:51 PM) IMHO we were just unfortunate. Had Abidal didn't concede the corner easily, we would have win. Not taking anything away from Milan, as they also played well, especially Nesta, but the fact that we conquered the game from start to finish shows that there was nothing wrong with Pep's system. His players fought well from a goal down, and were going to win the match only to be cancelled by the last play of the match. We failed to win, but not because of our system. LOL. But he really played well. A classy defender he is. im not blaming our system mate. just have a weird feeling about pep rotation lately. Keita is not a DM for me despite his great 2nd half last nite. Nesta is class. that tackle was perfect. messi reaction after that was funny now iniesta is out, expecting more of cesc and thiago. anoter 3-4-3 perhaps?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 15 2011, 12:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 15 2011, 12:05 AM) Keita is not a DM for me despite his great 2nd half last nite. Good observation there. Yes he had pretty good 2nd half, which make me think that Pep knows what he is doing, and Keita is slowly getting it. QUOTE now iniesta is out, expecting more of cesc and thiago. anoter 3-4-3 perhaps? I'd love to see 3-4-3 again, but since we have Alves, Cesc may just fill in for Iniesta in 4-3-3. Anything Pep decides is good enough to me
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raul88	Sep 15 2011, 01:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	i watch bola@mamak yesterday and i noticed ross yusof like kinda have problem with barca lol
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raul88	Sep 15 2011, 01:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	ok just found out he's a man u fan found info at bfm website no wonder...
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TSmatyrze	Sep 15 2011, 02:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 15 2011, 01:48 AM) i watch bola@mamak yesterday and i noticed ross yusof like kinda have problem with barca lol LOL What did he say? I seldom watch the show, but each time I manage to catch it, that guy offered the least input into discussion, just some trivia infos, or tried to be funny sometimes
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raul88	Sep 15 2011, 03:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 15 2011, 02:45 AM) LOL What did he say? I seldom watch the show, but each time I manage to catch it, that guy offered the least input into discussion, just some trivia infos, or tried to be funny sometimes hard to explain i guess you have to hear the whole context of the discussion to make the same conclusion as mine they were discussing about barca draw with sociedad anyway, sometimes i do tune in to football talk show every friday night at bfm because usually that time I was driving his jokes sometime are funny..but not all the time i guess
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ayanami_tard	Sep 15 2011, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: under the moonlight	just know there's ex barca player playing for LA lakers i was like wtf
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uzary	Sep 16 2011, 01:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 15 2011, 10:06 PM) just know there's ex barca player playing for LA lakers i was like wtf seriously? who?
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ayanami_tard	Sep 16 2011, 01:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: under the moonlight	Pau Gasol
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matt85	Sep 16 2011, 03:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
EDM fanatic Senior Member 527 posts Joined: Dec 2006	QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 16 2011, 02:39 PM) Pau Gasol I think you meant Barcelona Basketball Club?
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TSmatyrze	Sep 16 2011, 03:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(matt85 @ Sep 16 2011, 03:12 PM) I think you meant Barcelona Basketball Club? Of course Ricky Rubio another ex-Barca is also playing in NBA. Navarro, Barca's captain also used to play in NBA.
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sepulse	Sep 18 2011, 02:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	messi show. 3-0 atm messi,sex,villa
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DVSM2R	Sep 18 2011, 03:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Jul 2011	8-0 Messi 3 Villa 2 Cesc 1 Xavi 1 OG 1 Messi hits crossbar 3 times.. Correction This post has been edited by DVSM2R*: Sep 18 2011, 04:04 AM
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uzary	Sep 18 2011, 04:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	a stunning win 8-0 to osasuna, messi hatrick, villa 2, feb and xavi 1, 1 own goal. we would hav score more if it wasnt becoz of the goal pole.
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 18 2011, 04:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	3 kali kena tiang.. 2 kali fail one by one. But 8-0 sufficient enough. Added on September 18, 2011, 4:09 amFab like messi no.2. Looks like Free role all the time. This post has been edited by fcbarcelona-my: Sep 18 2011, 04:09 AM
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MessiX10	Sep 18 2011, 04:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	wow 8-0.. messi show again~
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neohardcore	Sep 18 2011, 08:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
Casual Junior Member 402 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(MessiX10 @ Sep 18 2011, 04:27 AM) wow 8-0.. messi show again~ guys,pkl bpe ade ulangan?mlm td keje la.xdpt tgok.adoi..rugi pulak
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Innovation	Sep 18 2011, 12:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	woah, wat a comeback frm 2 draw, hopefully, can continue this winning mentalities.
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sepulse	Sep 18 2011, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	last nite formation was great, Busquets @ DM make Xavi task easier imo. and messi - cesc linkup is awesome. just look at cesc goal. Messi MOTM! Valencia next!
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TSmatyrze	Sep 18 2011, 04:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Based on last night game, I think if Pedro doesn't show improvement in several of next games, he'll lose his place to Cesc. It just seems worth it to sacrifice an attacker to bring in a midfielder who compliments Messi greatly.
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sepulse	Sep 18 2011, 07:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 18 2011, 04:15 PM) Based on last night game, I think if Pedro doesn't show improvement in several of next games, he'll lose his place to Cesc. It just seems worth it to sacrifice an attacker to bring in a midfielder who compliments Messi greatly. +1 or sanchez will grab it in 2 month time. its funny when barca and madrid trash other team = La Liga is shit didnt the same thing happen in other league as well?
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Innovation	Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	well, u always can heard this kind of comment from the bpl fans, defenders in la liga are slow, soft in tackle, not physical..worst is barca cant win against stoke city..LOL still, last night, our defense is not much tested by osasuna, next game shall be a real test to it.
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sepulse	Sep 18 2011, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM) well, u always can heard this kind of comment from the bpl fans, defenders in la liga are slow, soft in tackle, not physical..worst is barca cant win against stoke city..LOL still, last night, our defense is not much tested by osasuna, next game shall be a real test to it. lulz! stoke > all expecting pique to be back soon. our defense is kinda good enuf if tarzan is around.
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Angel of Deth	Sep 18 2011, 09:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
Regular Senior Member 1,242 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Cheras	QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM) well, u always can heard this kind of comment from the bpl fans, defenders in la liga are slow, soft in tackle, not physical..worst is barca cant win against stoke city..LOL still, last night, our defense is not much tested by osasuna, next game shall be a real test to it. that's ridiculous, just because they're impossible to face each other people like to make stuff. They're struggling against Dynamo Kiev in Europa League, and i'm sure will be easily destroyed by Barcelona.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 18 2011, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Right now Im watching potentially another massacre of a so called title challenger,by the only genuine title challenger, in the so called the most competitive league in the world. Serius kelakar LOLOLOL.... QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Sep 18 2011, 09:31 PM) that's ridiculous, just because they're impossible to face each other people like to make stuff. They're struggling against Dynamo Kiev in Europa League, and i'm sure will be easily destroyed by Barcelona. Believe it or not, there are quite a number of people believe in that sh!t. Stoke is the real deal apparently.
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sepulse	Sep 18 2011, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 18 2011, 11:49 PM) Right now Im watching potentially another massacre of a so called title challenger,by the only genuine title challenger, in the so called the most competitive league in the world. Serius kelakar LOLOLOL.... Believe it or not, there are quite a number of people believe in that sh!t. Stoke is the real deal apparently. hahaha, look like one horse race no?
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Innovation	Sep 18 2011, 11:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 18 2011, 11:49 PM) Right now Im watching potentially another massacre of a so called title challenger,by the only genuine title challenger, in the so called the most competitive league in the world. Serius kelakar LOLOLOL.... Believe it or not, there are quite a number of people believe in that sh!t. Stoke is the real deal apparently. most competitive? now is a 1 horse racing league...hahaha well, u can always heard all kind of joke from them...if they cant win u, they defame u in many possible ways
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 12:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 18 2011, 11:54 PM) hahaha, look like one horse race no? QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 18 2011, 11:58 PM) most competitive? now is a 1 horse racing league...hahaha Give City some credit la. I think they can offer the nearest consiatency as Man Utd's. But I expect Utd to walk to the title again this season. Oh, Chelsea pulled 1!! Ok la its really the most exciting league. Anybody can defeat anybody one
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sepulse	Sep 19 2011, 12:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 12:09 AM) Give City some credit la. I think they can offer the nearest consiatency as Man Utd's. But I expect Utd to walk to the title again this season. Oh, Chelsea pulled 1!! Ok la its really the most exciting league. Anybody can defeat anybody one aguero is walking their league. how much did aguero scored in la liga? city is good offensively. but mancini have alot to work on their defense. just look at fulham and napoli game. anyway, zaragoza 2 - 1 asspanyol. Luis Garcia should get a hat trick
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Innovation	Sep 19 2011, 12:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Aguero, i think he score 20 ? Back in AM... Such a waste when i saw silva join their flank bt i do hope those la liga player will succeed in bpl...same goes to mata, torres.... n falcao is quite a beast, he score again..
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 12:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	I think not even Osasuna would want Torres now. LOLOL.
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sepulse	Sep 19 2011, 12:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	miss of the season. poor him. made a good run..
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 01:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	OK now, for some analysis. Actually Chelsea played quite well in attack. However in defense, all they had was that 1 line of 4 last defenders, with no DM whatsoever (or was Meireless really useless?). A hell lot of time afforded to Man Utd players (especially Nani) to exploit the hole between their defenders and midfielders. So to go back to something Barca-related...... QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM) well, u always can heard this kind of comment from the bpl fans, defenders in la liga are slow, soft in tackle, not physical... .......tonight, one of the BPL top teams have shown absolutely sh!tty defensive tactic, even as noob as what Osasuna showed last night. What's more, they had the supposedly rock solid Terry marshalling their defense. Who lead Osasuna's back line? Err....Riversio? QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 19 2011, 12:31 AM) n falcao is quite a beast, he score again.. He already has his hattrick But although Falcao is a beast, I think its pretty foolish of Atletico to spend all of Aguero's money on a player. I think they need the money to get at least one top class defender as well.
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clsiluf	Sep 19 2011, 02:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,058 posts Joined: Dec 2006	Rubbish , if barcelona to Play stoke they gonna thrash Stoke 5-0 easily ...
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uzary	Sep 19 2011, 04:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	guys, i cant sleep so watched rm match against levante, they lost 1-0. i want to comment abit about this game of rm vs levante, it is worst than el classico, for both team i say.. btw iinm mistaken our nex game will be against valencia right? it is a must win to climb to the top of the table.
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sliqueliques	Sep 19 2011, 04:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	great!!. hope next game we win and climb to the top and stay until last game.. This post has been edited by sliqueliques: Sep 19 2011, 04:11 AM
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raul88	Sep 19 2011, 04:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	QUOTE(Innovation @ Sep 18 2011, 07:50 PM) well, u always can heard this kind of comment from the bpl fans, defenders in la liga are slow, soft in tackle, not physical..worst is barca cant win against stoke city..LOL still, last night, our defense is not much tested by osasuna, next game shall be a real test to it. most of them are bandwagon just follow crowd and friends..just wanna fit in knowledge about football..zero..ok maybe got abit la but when champion league or world cup/euro, english team or england lose, they all butthurt..how can? (because this clowns only watch bpl and are clueless about other european league- la liga, serie a, bundesliga etc) yes, bpl is the most exciting league yes, bpl is the most competitive league yes, bpl is the most entertaining league (heck i watched bpl more than la liga itself) BUT that doesnt mean they have the best team or the best player aguero in athletico consistent 20+ goals in a season, but he never won golden boot (correct me if i'm wrong) come to bpl suddenly become contender to golden boot...not that i'm saying he's not good but you get my point same goes to torres, when he arrived in england, first season he became oversea player to scored the most goal in debut season, overtake nistelrooy record generally, bpl= high tempo, fast game, highly physical la liga= possession football? skills? serie a= defence specialist, counter attack uefa champion league winners speak for itself 12 winners from spain 11 winners from england 11 winnners from italy if bpl>all, shouldnt english team should have more UCL trophy
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zeronehza	Sep 19 2011, 04:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
Malaysian Real Madrid Supporter Club Senior Member 1,704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Hogoh Pahang Hogoh	wow.. lari topic.. me also more entertain watchin la liga than others league..
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uzary	Sep 19 2011, 04:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(zeronehza @ Sep 19 2011, 04:38 AM) wow.. lari topic.. me also more entertain watchin la liga than others league.. too bad for u guys, but nevermind,there are up n down, even our team only settle wit a draw couple of matches b4. ur team is still a very super. just hope our nex classico will be less negativity from both my team n urs, altho i doubt it
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tzxsean	Sep 19 2011, 04:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Lonely Driver Senior Member 5,608 posts Joined: Jan 2010	QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:32 AM) most of them are bandwagon just follow crowd and friends..just wanna fit in knowledge about football..zero..ok maybe got abit la but when champion league or world cup/euro, english team or england lose, they all butthurt..how can? (because this clowns only watch bpl and are clueless about other european league- la liga, serie a, bundesliga etc) yes, bpl is the most exciting league yes, bpl is the most competitive league yes, bpl is the most entertaining league (heck i watched bpl more than la liga itself) BUT that doesnt mean they have the best team or the best player aguero in athletico consistent 20+ goals in a season, but he never won golden boot (correct me if i'm wrong) come to bpl suddenly become contender to golden boot...not that i'm saying he's not good but you get my point same goes to torres, when he arrived in england, first season he became oversea player to scored the most goal in debut season, overtake nistelrooy record generally, bpl= high tempo, fast game, highly physical la liga= possession football? skills? serie a= defence specialist, counter attack uefa champion league winners speak for itself 12 winners from spain 11 winners from england 11 winnners from italy if bpl>all, shouldnt english team should have more UCL trophy well...fact that barca and real madrid received way different revenue from broadcasting rights do increase the gap between teams and the time of la liga matches are too late (most ppl are sleeping or have work to do next day) in addition, sugar daddies bought clubs in EPL and it's certainly more exciting now compared to la liga in terms of the intensity last but not least, imho the opinion barca wont last against stoke is purely based on the fact that Stoke players are too physical and Barca may be cant cope well with them (easy to fall down and etc) in terms of technicality, Barca is out of meter compared to all teams in the world
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MessiX10	Sep 19 2011, 05:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 18 2011, 04:15 PM) Based on last night game, I think if Pedro doesn't show improvement in several of next games, he'll lose his place to Cesc. It just seems worth it to sacrifice an attacker to bring in a midfielder who compliments Messi greatly. agreeee!
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-Nos-	Sep 19 2011, 05:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
I Hate Stupid people!! Senior Member 1,770 posts Joined: Dec 2007	QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:32 AM) most of them are bandwagon just follow crowd and friends..just wanna fit in knowledge about football..zero..ok maybe got abit la but when champion league or world cup/euro, english team or england lose, they all butthurt..how can? (because this clowns only watch bpl and are clueless about other european league- la liga, serie a, bundesliga etc) yes, bpl is the most exciting league yes, bpl is the most competitive league yes, bpl is the most entertaining league (heck i watched bpl more than la liga itself) BUT that doesnt mean they have the best team or the best player aguero in athletico consistent 20+ goals in a season, but he never won golden boot (correct me if i'm wrong) come to bpl suddenly become contender to golden boot...not that i'm saying he's not good but you get my point same goes to torres, when he arrived in england, first season he became oversea player to scored the most goal in debut season, overtake nistelrooy record generally, bpl= high tempo, fast game, highly physical la liga= possession football? skills? serie a= defence specialist, counter attack uefa champion league winners speak for itself 12 winners from spain 11 winners from england 11 winnners from italy if bpl>all, shouldnt english team should have more UCL trophy you think you so smart by saying all these?? we are not questioning player's capabilities here, we are comparing the leagues competitiveness. in case you didnt know, world class players like ronaldo, aguero, silva will enjoy success anywhere. they are classy. nuff' said. owh! about forlan being a flop in man u and then a hit in atletico, i leave that to you. just ask about anyone on street, who will win la liga? about every season, you can expect them to say barca/ madrid. take note only barca/ madrid realistically have chance to nick it. now ask the same question, who will win the epl? some say man u? chelsea? man city? liverpool? arsenal? look, i know liverpool and arsenal have been in a shitty form now. but hey, we know both teams have a shot at the title every now and then. speaking of CL, we all know barca is the greatest team now. look at the previous stats, most of the time only barca managed to sail into the quarter/semi/finals stages. whereas england teams consistently having 2/3 teams advancing to the later stages. says much huh? cheers,
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 06:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(tzxsean @ Sep 19 2011, 04:45 AM) well...fact that barca and real madrid received way different revenue from broadcasting rights do increase the gap between teams The real question is, is there no such gap between Man Utd compared to the rest? City is catching up because of their money. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are thought to be in transition. So they should be considerably weaker than they were few years ago no? So isn't that showing the gap? I don't need to speculate anything like how you do with that Stoke bulls, I just have to show Man Utd results against Arsenal and just now Chelsea. BOTH were really horrible with their defense. Bolton also received a mauling in their own stadium too. why not BPL fanboys just point this out as the gap, like Real-Barca have in Liga? At least we have 2 horse race in Spain. Right now, BPL fans have to pray for City to keep up with Utd, otherwise, BPL should be wrapped up early. I heard there are 6 title contenders right? Who's the other one? Spurs? I LOLed QUOTE and the time of la liga matches are too late (most ppl are sleeping or have work to do next day) in addition, sugar daddies bought clubs in EPL and it's certainly more exciting now compared to la liga in terms of the intensity Intensity, yes. But better competition? Better midtable teams? Now, Malaga has been bought by Sheikhs as well. Getafe will be taken up fully by another group of Sheikh next year. Atletico is still in fine financial state. Sevilla is still pretty much a good team, as long as they keep Palop outta their team. Valencia have never seemed to be affected by their troubles. Real Sociedad held us to a draw, Levante just defeated Madrid. Clubs in Spain are in financial troubles, but it is not always reflected by on-pitch performance. QUOTE last but not least, imho the opinion barca wont last against stoke is purely based on the fact that Stoke players are too physical and Barca may be cant cope well with them (easy to fall down and etc) This BS is the easiest and the last haters could hang onto, because in no way Barca can prove otherwise. Well, not if they somehow get into UCL Just cut the crap OK? QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 05:16 AM) you think you so smart by saying all these?? we are not questioning player's capabilities here, we are comparing the leagues competitiveness. just ask about anyone on street, who will win la liga? about every season, you can expect them to say barca/ madrid. take note only barca/ madrid realistically have chance to nick it. now ask the same question, who will win the epl? some say man u? chelsea? man city? liverpool? arsenal? look, i know liverpool and arsenal have been in a shitty form now. but hey, we know both teams have a shot at the title every now and then. Can't you just see? People only talk about Barca and Real because Malaysian generally lack the exposure towards La Liga. Thus they are not familiar Villareal, Valencia and Atletico. They just don't realize that Valencia has won just as much league titles as Arsenal did during the past 10 years. Meanwhile, although it has been always Man Utd who managed to grab the league nearly every year, because of the fan base, EPL teams are automatically regarded much higher. Conclusion, your example is very biased, and in no way it strengthens your argument. QUOTE speaking of CL, we all know barca is the greatest team now. look at the previous stats, most of the time only barca managed to sail into the quarter/semi/finals stages. whereas england teams consistently having 2/3 teams advancing to the later stages. says much huh? cheers, Yeah it used to be like that. Not now though. Last I checked, Spain have 2 reps in UCL semis, 1 in Europa Cup semis, and 1 winner in UEFA Super Cup. In the meantime, BPL teams are continuously looking for players in the more 'inferior' La Liga. Cheers.
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raul88	Sep 19 2011, 06:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 05:16 AM) you think you so smart by saying all these?? we are not questioning player's capabilities here, we are comparing the leagues competitiveness. in case you didnt know, world class players like ronaldo, aguero, silva will enjoy success anywhere. they are classy. nuff' said. owh! about forlan being a flop in man u and then a hit in atletico, i leave that to you. just ask about anyone on street, who will win la liga? about every season, you can expect them to say barca/ madrid. take note only barca/ madrid realistically have chance to nick it. now ask the same question, who will win the epl? some say man u? chelsea? man city? liverpool? arsenal? look, i know liverpool and arsenal have been in a shitty form now. but hey, we know both teams have a shot at the title every now and then. speaking of CL, we all know barca is the greatest team now. look at the previous stats, most of the time only barca managed to sail into the quarter/semi/finals stages. whereas england teams consistently having 2/3 teams advancing to the later stages. says much huh? cheers, 1 bold. yes, bpl is the most exciting league yes, bpl is the most competitive league yes, bpl is the most entertaining league (heck i watched bpl more than la liga itself) dey macha, i agree with you on league competitiveness, you are a true fan, you know this, i'm hitting out bandwagon, go to mamak and ask random ppl...some of them know shit about football..you'll be surprised 2 bold again you're right. this is because spain football got so many politics. broadcast revenue are distributed in unfairly manner just as an example. again, I'm hitting bandwagon not true fans..you know who you are epl 99-00 manu 00-01 manu 01-02 arsenal 02-03 manu 03-04 arsenal 04-05 chelsea 05-06 chelsea 06-07 manu 07-08 manu 08-09 manu 09-10 chelsea 10-11 manu laliga 99-00 deportivo 00-01 real 01-02 valencia 02-03 real 03-04 valencia 04-05 barca 05-06 barca 06-07 real 07-08 real 08-09 barca 09-10 barca 10-11 barca Added on September 19, 2011, 6:23 am QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 05:16 AM) owh! about forlan being a flop in man u and then a hit in atletico, i leave that to you. so beckham first 3 season in real no trophy mean what i wonder how many trophies he won at england this is where style of play matter generally, bpl= high tempo, fast game, highly physical la liga= possession football? skills? serie a= defence specialist, counter attack maybe bpl style doesnt suit him or perhaps he peak late? other problems(family related, language...like mascherano) This post has been edited by raul88: Sep 19 2011, 06:23 AM
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sepulse	Sep 19 2011, 07:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	quite shocked with the RM result tbh. they pulled a sociedad? well barca need to step up now. win in mestalla and go on top. as for PL, i kinda agree with raul88 assessment. barca will invite stoke for next year gamper cup or a friendly perhaps
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myhotgary2	Sep 19 2011, 07:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Joined: Yesterday Senior Member 617 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: You Kay?	angel di maria LOL
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 19 2011, 07:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Hahahaha. Surprise surprise. Tu la. Lenkali jgn tok kok. Hahaha. Tq levante for open up the title race.hehe
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-Nos-	Sep 19 2011, 07:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
I Hate Stupid people!! Senior Member 1,770 posts Joined: Dec 2007	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 06:04 AM) Can't you just see? People only talk about Barca and Real because Malaysian generally lack the exposure towards La Liga. Thus they are not familiar Villareal, Valencia and Atletico. They just don't realize that Valencia has won just as much league titles as Arsenal did during the past 10 years. Meanwhile, although it has been always Man Utd who managed to grab the league nearly every year, because of the fan base, EPL teams are automatically regarded much higher. Conclusion, your example is very biased, and in no way it strengthens your argument. Yeah it used to be like that. Not now though. Last I checked, Spain have 2 reps in UCL semis, 1 in Europa Cup semis, and 1 winner in UEFA Super Cup. In the meantime, BPL teams are continuously looking for players in the more 'inferior' La Liga. Cheers. that is so not true. lack of exposure? really? come'on seriously? you think villareal, valencia and atletico can win the league? if we compare valencia's title in the past 10 years and arsenal's premier league, we have valencia 1, arsenal 3. in the between blackburn won it once and chelsea also got 3. that is what i'm saying. even a team like blackburn pocket it once. can malaga/deportivo/sociedad do the same in la liga? i dont see how fans will rate other teams higher? especially the arrogant devils. generally man u got the largest fanbase in asia. not sure about other continents. that doesnt mean all fans are bias towards the league their team in. last time you checked? i assume last season? check 2/3/4 seasons back for better reliability/consistency. la liga big 2 pervasively looking at BPL for players too if you can take off your spanish hat for a while. ronaldo, manu>rm, the most recent,fabregas>barca, in the past owen>rm, beckham>rm, van nistelrooj>rm, van bronchost, petit, overmars, silvinho, arsenal>barca. no hard feeling here, but it seems barca loves arsenal players so much. This post has been edited by -Nos-: Sep 19 2011, 07:56 AM
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Innovation	Sep 19 2011, 12:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	woah, jz wake up and get to know rm lose to levante, sorry to said bt nw is the chance to win some point and widen the gap. regarding those la liga vs bpl topic, its an endless war, both league are entertaining in its own way. on side note, do hope barca meet/invite stoke in next year for some friendly cup... rofl
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tzxsean	Sep 19 2011, 01:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
Lonely Driver Senior Member 5,608 posts Joined: Jan 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 06:04 AM) The real question is, is there no such gap between Man Utd compared to the rest? City is catching up because of their money. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are thought to be in transition. So they should be considerably weaker than they were few years ago no? So isn't that showing the gap? I don't need to speculate anything like how you do with that Stoke bulls, I just have to show Man Utd results against Arsenal and just now Chelsea. BOTH were really horrible with their defense. Bolton also received a mauling in their own stadium too. why not BPL fanboys just point this out as the gap, like Real-Barca have in Liga? At least we have 2 horse race in Spain. Right now, BPL fans have to pray for City to keep up with Utd, otherwise, BPL should be wrapped up early. I heard there are 6 title contenders right? Who's the other one? Spurs? I LOLed Intensity, yes. But better competition? Better midtable teams? Now, Malaga has been bought by Sheikhs as well. Getafe will be taken up fully by another group of Sheikh next year. Atletico is still in fine financial state. Sevilla is still pretty much a good team, as long as they keep Palop outta their team. Valencia have never seemed to be affected by their troubles. Real Sociedad held us to a draw, Levante just defeated Madrid. Clubs in Spain are in financial troubles, but it is not always reflected by on-pitch performance. This BS is the easiest and the last haters could hang onto, because in no way Barca can prove otherwise. Well, not if they somehow get into UCL Just cut the crap OK? Can't you just see? People only talk about Barca and Real because Malaysian generally lack the exposure towards La Liga. Thus they are not familiar Villareal, Valencia and Atletico. They just don't realize that Valencia has won just as much league titles as Arsenal did during the past 10 years. Meanwhile, although it has been always Man Utd who managed to grab the league nearly every year, because of the fan base, EPL teams are automatically regarded much higher. Conclusion, your example is very biased, and in no way it strengthens your argument. Yeah it used to be like that. Not now though. Last I checked, Spain have 2 reps in UCL semis, 1 in Europa Cup semis, and 1 winner in UEFA Super Cup. In the meantime, BPL teams are continuously looking for players in the more 'inferior' La Liga. Cheers. i think u misunderstood the stoke barca thingy i mentioned wad i mean is that I think....the person who said that (Andy Gray if I'm not right) his statement might be based on physical of Stoke apart from that, u mentioned about the taking over in La Liga it's not that relevant yet, Getafe and Malaga are only in their 1st season after take over PSG too (did not perform that well as well) but chelsea man city played few seasons already, so the performance has improve alot and about the scorelines against chelsea arsenal recently arsenal is plagued by injuries (transfer policies defect for ages), chelsea is in transition if u watch the game (esp chelsea) the 3-0 doesnt represent the performance in pitch just the finishing of man utd is better and if u read correctly wad I wrote nvr once I said which league is superior I myself watched both I was merely analysing reasons why ppl said BPL is better (popular) than la liga last but no least, chances of upset in BPL is higher than la liga if nt mistaken p/s: there are many ways to interpret the word 'better' , it depends on how u look at it, better as in better teams? more hype? and etc no right or wrong here This post has been edited by tzxsean: Sep 19 2011, 01:19 PM
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 02:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 07:54 AM) that is so not true. lack of exposure? really? come'on seriously? you think villareal, valencia and atletico can win the league? Yup, its lack of exposure. While most people know how dude like Joe Cole and Benayoun play, how many people know how Piatti (Valencia), Perotti (Sevilla) and Camunas (Villareal) play? Which of them are good, which are overrated? Oh, and how about Arsenal and Liverpool chances? Do they really have chances? If you take off you English hat, you will see that for quite a while now they haven't had the consistency to properly challenge for the title. And right now, its just all about Man Utd. Things are getting worse there For me, who actually WATCH both leagues, in some matches, Liverpool have shown as much fight against Man Utd as Valencia have against Barca. Not much difference. QUOTE if we compare valencia's title in the past 10 years and arsenal's premier league, we have valencia 1, arsenal 3. in the between blackburn won it once and chelsea also got 3. that is what i'm saying. even a team like blackburn pocket it once. can malaga/deportivo/sociedad do the same in la liga? i dont see how fans will rate other teams higher? especially the arrogant devils. generally man u got the largest fanbase in asia. not sure about other continents. that doesnt mean all fans are bias towards the league their team in. LOL, see? Your misinformation just show lack of exposure? And surprise, you just did a mistake with Arsenal record as well. BOTH Valencia and Arsenal won their respective leagues in 01/02 and 03/04 seasons. Please refer wiki back Oh, and for Blackburn, Deportivo la Coruna won the league in 2000. Chelsea? I always regarded them as the only side who can offer consistency to challenge United. So for me there has always been big 2 in EPL. So I'd compare their position with Real Madrid. The difference now is, while Real is still pushing Barca, Chelsea has now slowed down at an alarming rate. Liverpool has been shite for a long time now, just like Atletico Madrid. But I'm actually referring to current situation. To actually roll back 10 years can be misleading. QUOTE last time you checked? i assume last season? check 2/3/4 seasons back for better reliability/consistency. If I were you, I'm gonna check how Spanish team fared in Europa as well Atletico and Sevilla won it remember? Villareal in the semis last year? They were not that bad, as how you guys in BPL clubs thread like to point out Sometimes reading comments that is Barca related in those thread is laughable. All of them ooze some kind of arrogance about their supposedly 'better' league, with not much of understanding about LL. What's your comment about how Real Sociedad earned a draw against us last week? How about Hercules who defeated us in Camp Nou last year? Are those results because they are crappy teams, who likes to lie down so Barca can roll over 'em? Added on September 19, 2011, 2:25 pm QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ Sep 19 2011, 07:30 AM) angel di maria LOL He is the real serial offender This post has been edited by matyrze: Sep 19 2011, 02:44 PM
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barca96	Sep 19 2011, 03:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Shiiiit. Everytime there is a discussion, I'm busy at work or on holiday. EPL fan boys, after the "international break", look how easy it was for Man U and Man City to crush their opponents. And SAF as just complaining that too many of his stars need to play for their respective countries. COmpare those results and matches to Madrid's and Barca's. They both had trouble in the so called "inferior and less competitive league". Barca actually drew and Madrid had a lot of trouble but in the end won their match.
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themanguydude2	Sep 19 2011, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Getting Started Junior Member 82 posts Joined: Mar 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 02:10 PM) Liverpool has been shite for a long time now, just like Atletico Madrid. I love this quote
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barca96	Sep 19 2011, 04:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 18 2011, 07:24 PM) its funny when barca and madrid trash other team = La Liga is shit didnt the same thing happen in other league as well? exactly and when the manchester teams crush other teams, it's swept under the carpet. and por que por que??? bi69X7xkVao puyDsF2t-H4 uqrIgftsrU8&feature=youtu.be ANd this is what the Special One had to say after the match; Mourinho: "I congratulate Levante. They know how to provocate, simulate, and even waste time. They're ready! My players are not suited to the dirty side of football, to the provocation, to the simulation." He seriously has some issues. The fans at the stadium made one banner; We're ugly, poor and not very good. Hilarious!!
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 19 2011, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	tumpang lalu tumpang lalu in conjunction with 8-0 and '0-1' , kita mempelawa our comrade here untuk dapatkan jersi FCBM sekiranya berminat. Jersi ini akan digunakan untuk tournament Supporters Champions League akan datang. . pic spt di bawah : untuk maklumat lanjut, buleh ke : FCBM forum tq ok..continue discussion
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elninotorres	Sep 19 2011, 05:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
Getting Started Junior Member 109 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Jupiter	QUOTE QUOTE(raul88 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:32 AM) most of them are bandwagon just follow crowd and friends..just wanna fit in knowledge about football..zero..ok maybe got abit la but when champion league or world cup/euro, english team or england lose, they all butthurt..how can? (because this clowns only watch bpl and are clueless about other european league- la liga, serie a, bundesliga etc) yes, bpl is the most exciting league yes, bpl is the most competitive league yes, bpl is the most entertaining league (heck i watched bpl more than la liga itself) BUT that doesnt mean they have the best team or the best player aguero in athletico consistent 20+ goals in a season, but he never won golden boot (correct me if i'm wrong) come to bpl suddenly become contender to golden boot...not that i'm saying he's not good but you get my point same goes to torres, when he arrived in england, first season he became oversea player to scored the most goal in debut season, overtake nistelrooy record generally, bpl= high tempo, fast game, highly physical la liga= possession football? skills? serie a= defence specialist, counter attack uefa champion league winners speak for itself 12 winners from spain 11 winners from england 11 winnners from italy if bpl>all, shouldnt english team should have more UCL trophy Read this..Analysis For sharing, just an analysis by former ex Valencia manager..dont know him?? By the way i'm Barca fan also..
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 06:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Sep 19 2011, 04:01 PM) ANd this is what the Special One had to say after the match; Mourinho: "I congratulate Levante. They know how to provocate, simulate, and even waste time. They're ready! My players are not suited to the dirty side of football, to the provocation, to the simulation." My god... QUOTE(elninotorres @ Sep 19 2011, 05:15 PM) Read this..Analysis For sharing, just an analysis by former ex Valencia manager..dont know him?? By the way i'm Barca fan also.. What's with all these number For me, the best way to understand football is to watch it. You want to understand BPL, you watch it. You want to understand LL, you watch it. You want to understand Serie A, you watch it. You want to understand Barca, you watch 'em play. Simple. Stats are ruining football by oversimplifying the diversity of beautiful game. How can you judge psychological demand based on challenges made in a league? In the latest Revista de La Liga, David Silva offered some interesting POV. He said the difference when playing in LL and BPL: 1) BPL is more physical and fast paced, but lotsa empty space attacking players can exploit due to defenders constantly out of position after pressuring; 2) LL is played at slower pace, but "in LL the defense is more organized" (direct quote from interview), thus leaving fewer space for attackers, and consequently they are harder to break down. If you want to watch his interview, download Revista de La Liga 30th August episode. Of course he touched many other things, and he did pointed out the advantages of BPL. But are LL defense really that shitty?
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-Nos-	Sep 19 2011, 06:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
I Hate Stupid people!! Senior Member 1,770 posts Joined: Dec 2007	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 02:10 PM) Yup, its lack of exposure. While most people know how dude like Joe Cole and Benayoun play, how many people know how Piatti (Valencia), Perotti (Sevilla) and Camunas (Villareal) play? Which of them are good, which are overrated? Oh, and how about Arsenal and Liverpool chances? Do they really have chances? If you take off you English hat, you will see that for quite a while now they haven't had the consistency to properly challenge for the title. And right now, its just all about Man Utd. Things are getting worse there For me, who actually WATCH both leagues, in some matches, Liverpool have shown as much fight against Man Utd as Valencia have against Barca. Not much difference. LOL, see? Your misinformation just show lack of exposure? And surprise, you just did a mistake with Arsenal record as well. BOTH Valencia and Arsenal won their respective leagues in 01/02 and 03/04 seasons. Please refer wiki back Oh, and for Blackburn, Deportivo la Coruna won the league in 2000. Chelsea? I always regarded them as the only side who can offer consistency to challenge United. So for me there has always been big 2 in EPL. So I'd compare their position with Real Madrid. The difference now is, while Real is still pushing Barca, Chelsea has now slowed down at an alarming rate. Liverpool has been shite for a long time now, just like Atletico Madrid. But I'm actually referring to current situation. To actually roll back 10 years can be misleading. If I were you, I'm gonna check how Spanish team fared in Europa as well Atletico and Sevilla won it remember? Villareal in the semis last year? They were not that bad, as how you guys in BPL clubs thread like to point out Sometimes reading comments that is Barca related in those thread is laughable. All of them ooze some kind of arrogance about their supposedly 'better' league, with not much of understanding about LL. What's your comment about how Real Sociedad earned a draw against us last week? How about Hercules who defeated us in Camp Nou last year? Are those results because they are crappy teams, who likes to lie down so Barca can roll over 'em? Added on September 19, 2011, 2:25 pm He is the real serial offender people know joe cole because once he represented england. as for benayoun, he is the captain for israel NT and played for liverpool, chelsea and now arsenal. common sense much? if those players you mentioned are 'good' the scouts would notice them? no? how is that related to 'exposure'? oh, in addition to taking off your spanish head you need to take off your spanish tinted glasses too. i've mentioned that both arsenal and pool have been in dismay form now. last 2 seasons they were just breathing under the devil's neck. and arsenal was running in the race before puncture last season but chelsea is not far off that season. right now, i agree its all man u but the season is still early. arsenal won 3 times if i count from the BPL format. that is how i counted just now. if you talk about previous few seasons, chelsea, pool, arsenal are always there to challenge for the title. this season we have city up there. whereas in la liga barca has been running away with the title since the ronaldinho era. madrid is the only team that can dethrone them from my perspective. seriously nobody gives 2 cents about europa league. and we are talking about bpl vs. la liga now. those scrappy results happen in every league. what about fulham drawing with citeh? wolves beating man u last season. wigan do the same to arsenal. means what? in the end only 2 teams capable to win the league. i'm talking about clear favorites here. i can bet my ranch on barca/ rm to win again this season.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 08:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 06:54 PM) people know joe cole because once he represented england. as for benayoun, he is the captain for israel NT and played for liverpool, chelsea and now arsenal. common sense much? if those players you mentioned are 'good' the scouts would notice them? no? how is that related to 'exposure'? I don't understand what are you trying to tell here so I'll pass. QUOTE oh, in addition to taking off your spanish head you need to take off your spanish tinted glasses too. i've mentioned that both arsenal and pool have been in dismay form now. last 2 seasons they were just breathing under the devil's neck. and arsenal was running in the race before puncture last season but chelsea is not far off that season. right now, i agree its all man u but the season is still early. Nice story there, had I not followed BPL, surely I'd belief BPL is the best already. But sadly, I did follow the league. So I'll pass. QUOTE arsenal won 3 times if i count from the BPL format. that is how i counted just now. The first one you counted was more than 10 years ago. If you still want to count it, please, learn this... Since the inception of EPL (92/93 season); The league champions were: Man Utd - 12 Arsenal - 3 Chelsea - 3 Blackburn - 1 In Spain: Barcelona - 9 Real - 6 Valencia - 2 Depor - 1 Atletico - 1 So which stats looks prettier? QUOTE if you talk about previous few seasons, chelsea, pool, arsenal are always there to challenge for the title. this season we have city up there. whereas in la liga barca has been running away with the title since the ronaldinho era. madrid is the only team that can dethrone them from my perspective. Please, put Liverpool and Arsenal outta that elite bracket. There has always been only "Big 2" in EPL i.e Man Utd and Chelsea. Because they are the only teams who have the consistency. Similar like what Barca and Real have in LL. QUOTE seriously nobody gives 2 cents about europa league. and we are talking about bpl vs. la liga now. Ok, fair enough, although one of those Spanish team had went on to win the Uefa Super Cup against the mighty Inter Milan, but yeah Europa is a shitty tournament right? QUOTE those scrappy results happen in every league. what about fulham drawing with citeh? wolves beating man u last season. wigan do the same to arsenal. means what? in the end only 2 teams capable to win the league. i'm talking about clear favorites here. i can bet my ranch on barca/ rm to win again this season. So with deeper thought, actually both LL and EPL contain similar excitement that anybody can take off points from anybody, even the top dog in the league right? So, please, do explain to us again, why EPL has better competition than LL?
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-Nos-	Sep 19 2011, 08:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
I Hate Stupid people!! Senior Member 1,770 posts Joined: Dec 2007	QUOTE(matyrze @ Sep 19 2011, 08:26 PM) I don't understand what are you trying to tell here so I'll pass. Nice story there, had I not followed BPL, surely I'd belief BPL is the best already. But sadly, I did follow the league. So I'll pass. The first one you counted was more than 10 years ago. If you still want to count it, please, learn this... Since the inception of EPL (92/93 season); The league champions were: Man Utd - 12 Arsenal - 3 Chelsea - 3 Blackburn - 1 In Spain: Barcelona - 9 Real - 6 Valencia - 2 Depor - 1 Atletico - 1 So which stats looks prettier? Please, put Liverpool and Arsenal outta that elite bracket. There has always been only "Big 2" in EPL i.e Man Utd and Chelsea. Because they are the only teams who have the consistency. Similar like what Barca and Real have in LL. Ok, fair enough, although one of those Spanish team had went on to win the Uefa Super Cup against the mighty Inter Milan, but yeah Europa is a shitty tournament right? So with deeper thought, actually both LL and EPL contain similar excitement that anybody can take off points from anybody, even the top dog in the league right? So, please, do explain to us again, why EPL has better competition than LL? frankly speaking, the world had recognized the existence of big 4 or top 4 or whatever 4 years ago. just because 2 of the 'big 4' are in shit hole, you wanna proclaim there is only 'big 2'. okay, i'm fine with it. right, main reason in my arguments that epl is more competitive than la liga is the quality of teams actually capable to win it. i've mention lots of time, in bpl there are 3 teams capable to win the league. namely, man u , chelsea, man city.(you said you regard man u and chelsea as the most consistent teams, on paper city stand a great chance too) i'm saying based on their form now. can you at least name me another team aside of barca/ madrid that is capable to win the league? rational, please.
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pyroboy1911	Sep 19 2011, 08:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
A Great Achievement Senior Member 950 posts Joined: Nov 2006	EPL is physical, La Liga is technical, nuff said. How to compare? I personally thing as a league whole, EPL is more competitive but thats my opinion, if i debate or discuss with La Liga viewers of course there wont be a factual right answer. EPL supporters think La Liga viewers are watching from a La Liga tinted glass, and the vice versa. Well guess what, duh! If i watch EPL more than La Liga, obviously i have more knowledge about EPL and thus can argue more strongly for EPL. at least i know i will be having this tinted glass It's always a cycle in my opinion. in the mid 2000s, theres a fear that the gap between top 4 in England is getting bigger and bigger, coz of the spending power. It used to be that same 4 teams at the top in the first half of 2000s, only until recently Spurs and City are challenging into the bracket. and by 2009 & 2010 only the event of a minnow team can beating the top team is more common. When i was watching Man utd in 2006-2007, i can see a fixture and say "hah! a win in a hand". Not the case now though. I think the same thing happens now, only now its 2 teams at the top of La Liga and nobody seems to be able to stop them. Who knows what might happen? Valencia gets an injection from some new owner? Malaga's owner splash cash as well? Some genius manager took over Real Betis and ressurect them from the depth and challenge at least for Europa spot? (yes back when the ever-so-selfish Denilson is with them). Regardless, there wont be a right or wrong answer. Discuss all you want, both sides will be biased. Ive been in such discussion before, this is not the first and definitely wont be the last. PS: If you really wanna watch competitive league, go watch Bundesliga. The winner can be a team that doesnt even qualify for UCL the previous season, and the 2nd and 3rd in 2009-2010 end up as 13th & 14th in 2010-2011 . And in terms of financial aspect of the league, they have the healthiest one with very few debts around.
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Innovation	Sep 19 2011, 09:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 19 2011, 08:53 PM) PS: If you really wanna watch competitive league, go watch Bundesliga. The winner can be a team that doesnt even qualify for UCL the previous season, and the 2nd and 3rd in 2009-2010 end up as 13th & 14th in 2010-2011 . And in terms of financial aspect of the league, they have the healthiest one with very few debts around. Somehow, I'm agreed on this part..LOL The league just started with third game, i wont be tat arrogant to deny other team chances for the champion even though Barcelona and Real Madrid are the favorite among them. You can have an excellent start, but must consistent enuf , else will flop like some <insert name team>,
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fareezth	Sep 19 2011, 09:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Oct 2007	I THINK BATE BORISOV AND SOFIA PLAZEN "SUDAH GOYANG" AND WILL PARK DA BUS AGAINST US FOR NEXT UCL MATCH...... LOVE TO WATCH "CLASH OF THE TITLE" VS VALENCIA AT MESTALLA ESTADI.
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ayanami_tard	Sep 19 2011, 10:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
New Member Junior Member 40 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: under the moonlight	i read about you guys bashing EPL and confusion about 6-horse race since i'm too lazy to quote anyone,so here goes yes EPL is six horse race,but not all gunning for the trophies the three teams(United,City,Chelsea) are going for the title the other three teams(Arsenal,Spurs,Liverpool) is going for the 4th spot in UCL.they do have outside chances to win the premiership though.since Aston Villa is doing fine under Mcleish so throw them into the fray as well
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barca96	Sep 19 2011, 10:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 19 2011, 10:11 PM) i read about you guys bashing EPL and confusion about 6-horse race since i'm too lazy to quote anyone,so here goes yes EPL is six horse race,but not all gunning for the trophies the three teams(United,City,Chelsea) are going for the title the other three teams(Arsenal,Spurs,Liverpool) is going for the 4th spot in UCL.they do have outside chances to win the premiership though.since Aston Villa is doing fine under Mcleish so throw them into the fray as well you are right. but last season it was a two horse race in the epl. I just saw the league table on espn star. both manchester teams had a goal difference of 12 while the 3rd team only had 2
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TSmatyrze	Sep 19 2011, 10:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(-Nos- @ Sep 19 2011, 08:49 PM) frankly speaking, the world had recognized the existence of big 4 or top 4 or whatever 4 years ago. just because 2 of the 'big 4' are in shit hole, you wanna proclaim there is only 'big 2'. okay, i'm fine with it. right, main reason in my arguments that epl is more competitive than la liga is the quality of teams actually capable to win it. i've mention lots of time, in bpl there are 3 teams capable to win the league. namely, man u , chelsea, man city.(you said you regard man u and chelsea as the most consistent teams, on paper city stand a great chance too) i'm saying based on their form now. can you at least name me another team aside of barca/ madrid that is capable to win the league? rational, please. Maybe I'm one of the guy who believe that not every general opinion are correct. I also think that Barca and Real are the safest bet to win La Liga. Now the difference between our opinions are the number of teams could win the BPL. You believe in the so called Big 4. I say in recent seasons, chances for Liverpool and Arsenal have always been exaggarated. Thus I believe in my BPL's Big 2 theory. But since you are Arsenal fan iinm, surely you won't accept this. So we may just have to agree to disagree then. QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Sep 19 2011, 08:53 PM) PS: If you really wanna watch competitive league, go watch Bundesliga. The winner can be a team that doesnt even qualify for UCL the previous season, and the 2nd and 3rd in 2009-2010 end up as 13th & 14th in 2010-2011 . And in terms of financial aspect of the league, they have the healthiest one with very few debts around. I agree with this. Last I checked Leverkusen loss 1-4 at home LOL. I just have problem with sense of superiority of some BPL fans towards La Liga. Thats all. QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Sep 19 2011, 10:11 PM) i read about you guys bashing EPL and confusion about 6-horse race since i'm too lazy to quote anyone,so here goes yes EPL is six horse race,but not all gunning for the trophies the three teams(United,City,Chelsea) are going for the title the other three teams(Arsenal,Spurs,Liverpool) is going for the 4th spot in UCL.they do have outside chances to win the premiership though.since Aston Villa is doing fine under Mcleish so throw them into the fray as well So can La Liga can have its own widely claimed Big 6 then? Barca, Real, Valencia, Atletico, Villareal and Sevilla? QUOTE(fareezth @ Sep 19 2011, 09:26 PM) LOVE TO WATCH "CLASH OF THE TITLE" VS VALENCIA AT MESTALLA ESTADI. If we draw the game, people will start singing crisis again.
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fareezth	Sep 19 2011, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Don't care la about how many horse race, if u r really want that horse, just place your horse on the track at PENANG RACE OR SINGAPORE RACE...... All league in the world have the diff with other league, best or not the best, only fan judge it... each league have stronger and weak club, will be variety, unique and exciting season by season.... Added on September 19, 2011, 11:07 pmI'm still wonder, why ac milan not use da same tactics with BARCA against napoli...??? where 5@6 line of defender...??? AC milan fan please reply my unsatisfied question...TQ! This post has been edited by fareezth: Sep 19 2011, 11:07 PM
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sepulse	Sep 19 2011, 11:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(fareezth @ Sep 19 2011, 10:57 PM) Don't care la about how many horse race, if u r really want that horse, just place your horse on the track at PENANG RACE OR SINGAPORE RACE...... All league in the world have the diff with other league, best or not the best, only fan judge it... each league have stronger and weak club, will be variety, unique and exciting season by season.... Added on September 19, 2011, 11:07 pmI'm still wonder, why ac milan not use da same tactics with BARCA against napoli...??? where 5@6 line of defender...??? AC milan fan please reply my unsatisfied question...TQ! LOL! Milan did well against us imo. they utilized their chances and their defense was world class. (Nesta) and Cavani thiago: QUOTE Midfielder Thiago Alcantara has stated that the ‘League of Two’ (Barça and Madrid) is “a big lie” because all “the teams bring the best [version] of themselves and come to win.” Additionally, the player has expressed his delight with his developing role in the team. The alleged ‘League of two’ between Barça and Madrid has been one of the major talking points so far this season. Even more so after the blaugrana dropped points in Anoeta and the blancos at the Ciutat de València. Thiago Alcantara has taken it upon himself to contradict this bipolarity of the Championship: “It’s a big lie, the League of two. It has never been nor will it ever be. The teams come with many desires, they bring the best [version] of themselves and come to win. Today you could be up and down tomorrow, because the League is very long.”
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themanguydude2	Sep 20 2011, 01:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
Getting Started Junior Member 82 posts Joined: Mar 2010	QUOTE(barca96 @ Sep 19 2011, 10:43 PM) you are right. but last season it was a two horse race in the epl. I just saw the league table on espn star. both manchester teams had a goal difference of 12 while the 3rd team only had 2 To be honest, it's 3. Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea. Arsenal was leading the table till the last 10 games or so before they start to self destructing. Then Man Utd leapfrogged them. Chelsea only overtook the 2nd spot in the last 3-4 games. This post has been edited by themanguydude2: Sep 20 2011, 01:25 AM
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Peculator	Sep 20 2011, 03:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Wow so many posts, what I missed?
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MrFay	Sep 21 2011, 01:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: MALAYSIA!!	QUOTE(fareezth @ Sep 19 2011, 10:57 PM) Don't care la about how many horse race, if u r really want that horse, just place your horse on the track at PENANG RACE OR SINGAPORE RACE...... All league in the world have the diff with other league, best or not the best, only fan judge it... each league have stronger and weak club, will be variety, unique and exciting season by season.... Added on September 19, 2011, 11:07 pmI'm still wonder, why ac milan not use da same tactics with BARCA against napoli...??? where 5@6 line of defender...??? AC milan fan please reply my unsatisfied question...TQ! because milan was the favourite against napoli and they hit us with counter attacks
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TSmatyrze	Sep 21 2011, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(themanguydude2 @ Sep 20 2011, 01:19 AM) To be honest, it's 3. Arsenal, Man Utd and Chelsea. Arsenal was leading the table till the last 10 games or so before they start to self destructing. Then Man Utd leapfrogged them. Chelsea only overtook the 2nd spot in the last 3-4 games. A championship winning team do not stutter badly at the end of the season. Arsenal did. For all I know, if I needed to choose a BPL winner last season to save my life, I wouldn't choose other than Chelsea or Man Utd. In the end, Man utd won, and by some margin as well. It was quite predictable QUOTE(Peculator @ Sep 20 2011, 03:59 PM) Wow so many posts, what I missed? A lot, a lot
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MessiX10	Sep 22 2011, 02:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	i hope we beat valencia tonight 4am... cant wait ^^
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Angel of Deth	Sep 22 2011, 03:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
Regular Senior Member 1,242 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Cheras	By the looks of La Liga table right now.. after four matches i don't see any two horses race. What i see is 6 - 7 teams battling for no.1 spot. ....and i must admit, after 5 matches in BPL, it looks like it's gonna be 2 horses race between MU and MC. Both of them are steamrolling their opposition each week. This post has been edited by Angel of Deth: Sep 22 2011, 03:35 AM
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sliqueliques	Sep 22 2011, 03:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Great!! RM draw..hope we can win later.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 22 2011, 04:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	What a game now. If not because of Soldado's miss, we would be down 2 goals already... I think probably this is the best all round performance by an opposing team against us.
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zeronehza	Sep 22 2011, 04:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
Malaysian Real Madrid Supporter Club Senior Member 1,704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Hogoh Pahang Hogoh	left flank got problem or just barca play 3 defend.. love the way valencia attack barca... matthew really awesome.. la liga more competitive now..
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uzary	Sep 22 2011, 04:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	hope pep change the formation for this game, we are to vulnerable on the left, mascherano is defenseless on the left, need more backup on the right.. wat a game.
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sepulse	Sep 22 2011, 05:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	2 crucial mistakes from abidal. need to switch back to 4-3-3 IMHO. masch has no pace. alves @ RB.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 22 2011, 05:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Now we are back with 4 defenders. Added on September 22, 2011, 5:21 amThiago on. Damn, I think we just reverted to 3 defense again. This post has been edited by matyrze: Sep 22 2011, 05:21 AM
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sepulse	Sep 22 2011, 05:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	oh man. messi-cesc combination is just awesome. cesc scored inall league game so far
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uzary	Sep 22 2011, 05:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	we shud win this match, but i settle with a draw.. valencia is playin great, but i wana say very bad refereeing in this match, a lot of controversial decision, the saldado yellowcard, the 2 penalty claims.. and who said la liga is a battle only between rm and barca?
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sliqueliques	Sep 22 2011, 05:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	i think we didn't play well tonite..lucky we draw rather than lose..atleast we better than RM for now..LOL.. This post has been edited by sliqueliques: Sep 22 2011, 05:57 AM
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uzary	Sep 22 2011, 06:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	what i can say is the 3 4 3 formation is really a double edge sword, if it work, we won big, but if it didnt work, our back is really in very high risk, especially against strong team lyk valencia and also rm. Added on September 22, 2011, 6:07 amalso we start to dominate the game as soon as pep switch to our original formation, and then we started to create a lots of chances and a bit minimizing danger at the back. This post has been edited by uzary: Sep 22 2011, 06:07 AM
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fwhoam	Sep 22 2011, 06:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	Why j.alba get red carded? No replay or whatsoever.. We could have win.. Valencia really good in 1st half.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 22 2011, 06:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	I screamed so hard after that Guaita save. What a move. I think the result is fair. Both teams were great. Hats off to Valencia. And Cesc-Messi combination is set to be our driving force for years to come. Maybe when Pique is back we will get to see the holy trinity of La Masia? I can't wait. This post has been edited by matyrze: Sep 22 2011, 06:12 AM
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sepulse	Sep 22 2011, 06:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 22 2011, 06:05 AM) what i can say is the 3 4 3 formation is really a double edge sword, if it work, we won big, but if it didnt work, our back is really in very high risk, especially against strong team lyk valencia and also rm. Added on September 22, 2011, 6:07 amalso we start to dominate the game as soon as pep switch to our original formation, and then we started to create a lots of chances and a bit minimizing danger at the back. spot on. we look better with our usual 4-3-3.. villa thing is worrying me now. he keep missing easy chances. i still dont get it, why jordi alba get a red card?
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uzary	Sep 22 2011, 06:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(fwhoam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:09 AM) Why j.alba get red carded? No replay or whatsoever.. We could have win.. Valencia really good in 1st half. no idea too, myb arguing with lines men? but it is a straight red iinm, must be somethin serious, btw i still wana congrat febregas for keep scoring, his combination wit messi is perfect. last tym we hav the messi xavi iniesta combo, hopefully we gona hv a messi feb xavi n iniesta combo after this. pity villa didnt buried that chance, valencia keeper is very top class this game.
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fwhoam	Sep 22 2011, 06:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 22 2011, 06:13 AM) no idea too, myb arguing with lines men? but it is a straight red iinm, must be somethin serious, btw i still wana congrat febregas for keep scoring, his combination wit messi is perfect. last tym we hav the messi xavi iniesta combo, hopefully we gona hv a messi feb xavi n iniesta combo after this. pity villa didnt buried that chance, valencia keeper is very top class this game. I think Villa is kind of shy to score on his former team. Next fixture is tough. Vs Atlético Madrid.. Luckily its home fixture.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 22 2011, 06:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 22 2011, 06:13 AM) spot on. we look better with our usual 4-3-3.. villa thing is worrying me now. he keep missing easy chances. If there's one thing I'd like to ask Villa to improve on, please, stop getting caught offside
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uzary	Sep 22 2011, 06:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(fwhoam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:16 AM) I think Villa is kind of shy to score on his former team. Next fixture is tough. Vs Atlético Madrid.. Luckily its home fixture. nex against altetico? men, things are just getting tougher.. i think wat happen now about how strong other teams in la liga is because of the recent argument in our thread bout bpl vs la liga, where la liga is about barca n rm, now all other teams in la liga are trying to prove otherwise
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 22 2011, 06:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	We draw. But still better than 0-0 draw. Hehehe
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fwhoam	Sep 22 2011, 06:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #232
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 22 2011, 06:22 AM) nex against altetico? men, things are just getting tougher.. i think wat happen now about how strong other teams in la liga is because of the recent argument in our thread bout bpl vs la liga, where la liga is about barca n rm, now all other teams in la liga are trying to prove otherwise ++ agreed. Whoever said La Liga is 2 horse races is wrong. Especially after looking the current standing. Even Barca is 4th Place,Real Madrid 6th. Compare to BPL ManU 1st, ManC 2nd, Chelsea 3th.
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tzxsean	Sep 22 2011, 12:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
Lonely Driver Senior Member 5,608 posts Joined: Jan 2010	now only few matches already conclusion? wait a few more matches la if early early count last season blackpool stoke oso in top 5 what while man utd no where to be seen becos of the poor away form it will reveals when the league is approaching winter This post has been edited by tzxsean: Sep 22 2011, 12:40 PM
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sepulse	Sep 23 2011, 10:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #234
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	another bad news. afellay injured, will undergo a surgery. will be out for 4 - 6 months.
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dundermifflin	Sep 23 2011, 10:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Getting Started Junior Member 237 posts Joined: Jul 2010	QUOTE(fwhoam @ Sep 22 2011, 06:26 AM) ++ agreed. Whoever said La Liga is 2 horse races is wrong. Especially after looking the current standing. Even Barca is 4th Place,Real Madrid 6th. Compare to BPL ManU 1st, ManC 2nd, Chelsea 3th. nah, comparing and slating other league is boring talk.. each leagues, each seasons, have own story.. my life arent so empty, so i only follow one league.. btw, Banega guy look great. made few sloppy passes, but made Barca CMs looked average than usual. wonder why no big teams (only Inter rumoured to be interested) after him.. he have poor Copa America, but looked class act last season.
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uzary	Sep 23 2011, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 23 2011, 10:12 AM) another bad news. afellay injured, will undergo a surgery. will be out for 4 - 6 months. totally bad news, arghh.. i really want to c more of him this season.. hopefully there wont be anymore serious injuries to our players through out the season..
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sepulse	Sep 23 2011, 06:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 23 2011, 02:21 PM) totally bad news, arghh.. i really want to c more of him this season.. hopefully there wont be anymore serious injuries to our players through out the season.. yip. me too actually. since sanchez is injured atm, he should get his minutes. but too bad things didnt go his way.
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 23 2011, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	And suddenly..our team trimmed back into smaller squad..haishh..
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fwhoam	Sep 23 2011, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	Pique,Iniesta,Sanchez and now Affelay.. Hopefully no one else get injured after this
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uzary	Sep 23 2011, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « BARCELONA Status: Spanish champions, European champions Nicknames: Barca Barcelona's Lionel Messi GettyImagesBarcelona's Lionel Messi THE RECORD: The reigning kings of the Champions League took their time to join the ranks of the continent's elite as they did not lift their first European title until their 1992 triumph against Sampdoria at Wembley, yet they have made up for lost time by winning the ultimate prize in club football three times in the last five years. TACTICIAN: Pep Guardiola The Barca boss is fortunate to be working with a squad so sublimely talented that he merely needs to add the icing atop what is a deliciously appetising cake. It has been suggested that any tactician would succeed at the helm of this Barca side, yet the dignity and calm professionalism this former Barca midfielder has shown since he took up the role in 2008 has provided the perfect backdrop to the brilliance at his fingertips. "Being European champions is a title we embrace and we want to do all we can to defend our trophy this season," Guardiola says. THE GAMEPLAN: The summer signings of Cesc Fabregas and Alexis Sanchez have given the unstoppable Barca juggernaut even more attacking potency, with coach Guardiola switching from his winning 4-3-3 formula and experimenting with a 3-4-3 set-up. Defending, it seems, is becoming increasingly less significant for free-scoring Barca. Barca's unrelenting desire to retrieve the ball on the rare occasions they do not have it has been a key factor in their dominance of European game, with the magic they produce when the ball is under their control never ceasing to delight and enchant. MAIN MAN: Lionel Messi There can only be one candidate to fill this position for Barcelona and it has to be the brilliant Messi, an attacking genius who already deserves be placed alongside the all-time greats of the game. His majestic performance in last season's Champions League final against Manchester United confirmed beyond any doubt that he is in a league of his own in the modern era and his hunger for more shows no sign of waning. "Winning the Champions League at Wembley was a special moment for all of Barcelona, but this team will not be happy to settle for what we have," he says. "We want more and more." BIG SIGNING: Cesc Fabregas Fabregas' return to his first club finally came to pass this summer as, after much wrangling, Arsenal were forced to reluctantly hand their skipper back to Barcelona in a deal worth around £35 million. The expectation was that Fabregas would eventually replace the majestic Xavi in the Barca midfield and that he may not be a first-choice pick this season, yet the new formation means there is room for Fabregas to add even more majesty to Guardiola's line-up straight away. He started scoring goals from the moment he put a Barca shirt on his back once more. RISING STAR: Thiago Barca fans enjoy seeing a graduate of their celebrated youth academy make the leap into their star-studded first-team and Thiago looks set to be given his chance to do just that as the champions defend their Champions League crown. With Thiago's buy-out clause in his Barca contract reported to be a staggering €90 million, it is clear that the Catalan giants expect this classy 20-year-old to flourish into a true star. Born in Italy as the son of Brazilian World Cup-winner Mazinho, he was raised in Spain and has committed his international future to his adopted nation. THE X FACTOR: Alexis Sanchez Barca hardly needed any additional magic, yet the £25 million summer capture of Sanchez provided a thrilling injection of invention. This Chile international may not be a first pick in the initial stages of this season's Champions League, but he offers coach Guardiola an option to give star names a rest if required. That could be a crucial factor when the knockout stages kick in next February. FLAW IN THE MAKE-UP: Guardiola has been fortunate to have Messi, Iniesta and Xavi fit and available on a consistent basis throughout his time as Barca boss, but we have yet to discover whether his side would continue to thrive amid an injury crisis. Messi, in particular, has bailed his side out of trouble time again in recent years and it would be impossible to fill the void he would leave should he be sidelined for a sustained period. That said, Barca have enough class oozing from their fringe players and celebrated youth academy to plug holes when they arise. WHAT THEY SAY: "Barcelona are a fantastic team and there is no denying that they are right up there with the best of all time," Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson says - and he is a man normally reluctant to pour praise on his chief rivals. "The challenge for everyone in Europe is to try and improve to get close to them because they mesmerise you with their passing and punish you with their finishing. Sometimes you have to accept you are beaten by the better team and that was certainly the case for us in last season's Champions League final." VERDICT: If they perform at their best and stay injury-free, no one can stop them. a quote i got from espn soccernet bout our team. QUOTE VERDICT: If they perform at their best and stay injury-free, no one can stop them. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...group-h?cc=4716 our performance so far was good but not really at it best, but injuries are starting to hit our players one by one.. also this from the article QUOTE Messi, in particular, has bailed his side out of trouble time again in recent years and it would be impossible to fill the void he would leave should he be sidelined for a sustained period. That said, Barca have enough class oozing from their fringe players and celebrated youth academy to plug holes when they arise. just hope nothin serious if messi got injured.. not that i say we cant win without him, but wit him we hv better chances of winning especially tough matches. This post has been edited by uzary: Sep 23 2011, 10:47 PM
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sepulse	Sep 23 2011, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE Messi, in particular, has bailed his side out of trouble time again in recent years and it would be impossible to fill the void he would leave should he be sidelined for a sustained period. That said, Barca have enough class oozing from their fringe players and celebrated youth academy to plug holes when they arise. Messi , even not playing at his best, still can provide 2 assists (shoulda been 3, blame villa). his stats so far 9 goals 9 assists. amazing. really hope pique can start this weekend match vs pathethico. On fire
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uzary	Sep 24 2011, 01:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 23 2011, 11:38 PM) Messi , even not playing at his best, still can provide 2 assists (shoulda been 3, blame villa). his stats so far 9 goals 9 assists. amazing. really hope pique can start this weekend match vs pathethico. On fire that's why we cant hv messi in sideline, he's to valuable to the team.. n falcao is really in a scoring spree mode.
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TSmatyrze	Sep 24 2011, 03:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	I heard Diego will be unavailable for Atletico? If yes that will be a major boost for us
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sepulse	Sep 24 2011, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	saw this @ barcastuff FCB possible line-up (vs Atletico): Pinto; Alves, Mascherano, Puyol, Abidal; Xavi, Busquets, Thiago; Cesc, Messi, and Villa #fcblive Pinto started over Valdes? surely falcao will rip him
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uzary	Sep 25 2011, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 24 2011, 04:12 PM) saw this @ barcastuff FCB possible line-up (vs Atletico): Pinto; Alves, Mascherano, Puyol, Abidal; Xavi, Busquets, Thiago; Cesc, Messi, and Villa #fcblive Pinto started over Valdes? surely falcao will rip him y pinto? anything happen to valdes?
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 25 2011, 05:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Barca 5-0 atletico. Messi hatrik. And all goals..how to describe it..beautiful.
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uzary	Sep 25 2011, 05:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	iam happy..another sebelah tangan score. nice skill by tiago too.
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fwhoam	Sep 25 2011, 06:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	messi surely top scorer rite?
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Peculator	Sep 25 2011, 07:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Another big win against good team. 5-0 at home ground. And it was awesome and superb match that I missed once again to watch, only managed to watch the highlights. QUOTE(fwhoam @ Sep 25 2011, 06:19 AM) messi surely top scorer rite? Currently 8 goals, only 1 goal behind CR7.
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sepulse	Sep 25 2011, 08:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	damn, i fall asleep while watching inter game. FFFFFFUUUU
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R80	Sep 25 2011, 11:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
Getting Started Junior Member 186 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(Peculator @ Sep 25 2011, 07:22 AM) Another big win against good team. 5-0 at home ground. And it was awesome and superb match that I missed once again to watch, only managed to watch the highlights. Currently 8 goals, only 1 goal behind CR7. cr7 goals mostly from penalty
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Innovation	Sep 25 2011, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	damn, i miss the match...aaa, nw ony can see highlight, bt gratz to the team!!
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sepulse	Sep 25 2011, 12:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	i just downloaded the full match. watching atm.. xavi passing is something fun to watch. pedro missed a sitter. anyway stoke draw with mu. knew it. stoke > all. delap king mengelap.
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Innovation	Sep 25 2011, 12:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	haha, wat a comment, nw stoke is the best in europe if play at home game huh? btw, i 've seen the hightlight, villa is kinda good with the ball, the 1st ball and the assist for messi 3rd goal..
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sepulse	Sep 25 2011, 12:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	i was just being sacrastic. lol MU did play the best football in PL so far. abt barca his 1st and 2nd goal was just awesome. and 3-4-3 did produce another manita today.
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Innovation	Sep 25 2011, 03:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	MU? they were not tat good in yesterday when facing stoke especially lack of creativity frm midfielder. Next match, we gona travel to russia?.... rly a long journey
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fwhoam	Sep 25 2011, 06:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	QUOTE(Peculator @ Sep 25 2011, 07:22 AM) Another big win against good team. 5-0 at home ground. And it was awesome and superb match that I missed once again to watch, only managed to watch the highlights. Currently 8 goals, only 1 goal behind CR7. Not so sure but from espn soccer.net messi is 1 goal more than cr7. 1 Lionel Messi Barcelona 8 2 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 7 3 Roberto Soldado Valencia 5 Radamel Falcao Garcia Atlético Madrid 5 5 Cesc Fábregas Barcelona 4 Santi Cazorla Málaga 4 7 David Villa Barcelona 3 Karim Benzema Real Madrid 3 This post has been edited by fwhoam: Sep 25 2011, 06:16 PM
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sepulse	Sep 25 2011, 06:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(fwhoam @ Sep 25 2011, 06:16 PM) Not so sure but from espn soccer.net messi is 1 goal more than cr7. 1 Lionel Messi Barcelona 8 2 Cristiano Ronaldo Real Madrid 7 3 Roberto Soldado Valencia 5 Radamel Falcao Garcia Atlético Madrid 5 5 Cesc Fábregas Barcelona 4 Santi Cazorla Málaga 4 7 David Villa Barcelona 3 Karim Benzema Real Madrid 3 yep messi top scorer atm. http://www.sportyou.es/opta/widget.stats.en.php#goleadores
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MessiX10	Sep 25 2011, 08:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	messi 2nd goal and 3rd goal = awesome!
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Nicole Tan	Sep 25 2011, 09:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
New Member Junior Member 39 posts Joined: Sep 2011	Good teamwork for Barcelona Yesterday nite. Awesome
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uzary	Sep 26 2011, 01:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 25 2011, 12:26 PM) i was just being sacrastic. lol MU did play the best football in PL so far. abt barca his 1st and 2nd goal was just awesome. and 3-4-3 did produce another manita today. indeed the formation works this tym compared to when we were against valencia, however i notice this tym alves was more in the defense rather then goin up lyk he always did, gues that is why this tym it works and the opponent dont simply attack our left flank easily lyk wat happened during valencia match.
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barca96	Sep 26 2011, 01:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(uzary @ Sep 26 2011, 01:18 AM) indeed the formation works this tym compared to when we were against valencia, however i notice this tym alves was more in the defense rather then goin up lyk he always did, gues that is why this tym it works and the opponent dont simply attack our left flank easily lyk wat happened during valencia match. Alves was kept on a leash by Pep hehe. I seriously don't give a damn about the pinchichi/top scorer award. At the end of the day, it's the team title that is more important. Messi thanked his team mates again last night. The kid is so humble unlike the "rich, good looking and good" player. How many penalties did he get and score this season already? And how about last year?
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 26 2011, 08:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	IINM, messi now still a top scorer and top assist for la liga. nvm...now he already got 196 goals for barca. record holder 235.
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MessiX10	Sep 27 2011, 01:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #264
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1956/europe...-be-compared-to guys,click the link above to read Barcelona's David Villa: Lionel Messi cannot be compared to anyone Messi does incredible things," Villa said at a press conference. "His stats make you cover your eyes. He cannot be compared to anyone
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fcbarcelona-my	Sep 28 2011, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
Regular Senior Member 1,109 posts Joined: Oct 2007	iklan komuniti : so if u guys has nothing to do and boring2 saturday...ur invited to come and watch. hehe ok. continue discussion.
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fareezth	Sep 28 2011, 09:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Oct 2007	mr. pep did well to keep falcao silent on the pitch...all pass to him cut by barca defender....
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Innovation	Sep 28 2011, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	so, any prediction for today match? XD
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MessiX10	Sep 29 2011, 12:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	anyone got hd link? mind to share here? i wanna watch~~
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sepulse	Sep 29 2011, 12:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	try http://www.lshunter.tv/
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MessiX10	Sep 29 2011, 01:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(sepulse @ Sep 29 2011, 12:35 AM) try http://www.lshunter.tv/ thanks bro~ Added on September 29, 2011, 4:41 amhohoho 5-0 messi is just too good This post has been edited by MessiX10: Sep 29 2011, 04:41 AM
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Innovation	Sep 29 2011, 04:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	haha, 5-0, continue the winning streak....
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Peculator	Sep 29 2011, 09:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Another big ~~easy~~ win. Now we're first spot in Group H.
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uzary	Sep 29 2011, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	so sad cant watch the match, im outstation now and no wifi at the hotel.. arghhh... btw nice win barca.
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skylinelover	Sep 29 2011, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
Future Crypto Player😄👊Driver Abamsado😎😎 All Stars 11,265 posts Joined: Jul 2005	QUOTE(fcbarcelona-my @ Sep 26 2011, 08:22 AM) IINM, messi now still a top scorer and top assist for la liga. nvm...now he already got 196 goals for barca. record holder 235. 194 la dude sos panas fuiyoh i dont know got pinoy playng 4 barca b4 how nice malaysia got rep playing in barca colours more on the legend sos pinoy he got very solid stats i had 2 say...357 goals in 357 appearance in all competitions...really king of asia in football This post has been edited by skylinelover: Sep 29 2011, 10:48 PM
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MessiX10	Sep 30 2011, 01:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 29 2011, 10:36 PM) 194 la dude sos panas fuiyoh i dont know got pinoy playng 4 barca b4 how nice malaysia got rep playing in barca colours more on the legend sos pinoy he got very solid stats i had 2 say...357 goals in 357 appearance in all competitions...really king of asia in football i'm sure messi can break cesar record...messi is only 24 years old
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barca96	Sep 30 2011, 12:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #276
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Peculator @ Sep 29 2011, 09:31 AM) Another big ~~easy~~ win. Now we're first spot in Group H. if im not mistaken, milan is in the 1st place. not us even though we have more goals.
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Peculator	Sep 30 2011, 06:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(barca96 @ Sep 30 2011, 12:14 PM) if im not mistaken, milan is in the 1st place. not us even though we have more goals. After checking the group, yes it's indeed Milan in first spot. Their goal difference is 2 while ours is 5.
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sepulse	Oct 1 2011, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	iniesta finally started training with the squad! gijon always give us trouble before. but things look bad for em this year. so far its 2-2 or MANITA for us.
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liez	Oct 1 2011, 06:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
Regular Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Jun 2007	QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 29 2011, 10:36 PM) fuiyoh i dont know got pinoy playng 4 barca b4 how nice malaysia got rep playing in barca colours more on the legend sos pinoy he got very solid stats i had 2 say...357 goals in 357 appearance in all competitions...really king of asia in football thats still not the most mesmerizing ones.... it should be he is a doctor.
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sepulse	Oct 2 2011, 07:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	cesc out for 3 weeks - hamstring doooooommmmeed. the list goes on alexis, afellay, pique, iniesta and now cesc
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Peculator	Oct 3 2011, 09:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #281
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Small win to move on to top spot.
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Innovation	Oct 3 2011, 12:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	but is abidal injury serious? demm.... lost kinda lot player in the back due to injuries d
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Peculator	Oct 3 2011, 01:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(Innovation @ Oct 3 2011, 12:49 PM) but is abidal injury serious? demm.... lost kinda lot player in the back due to injuries d Not sure whether it's serious or not but we lost another good player.
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sepulse	Oct 3 2011, 10:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #284
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	7-10 days out according to official site. nvm next week int`l break so i guess he`ll be back on racing game. tbh last nite was the worst barca performance this season. and pep seems furious on the touchline too.
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Innovation	Oct 6 2011, 10:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #285
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	how many of our player been call to national duties? doesnt manage to get updates due to hectic workload... @_@
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MessiX10	Oct 7 2011, 02:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	i cant wait to see messi in argentina shirt again argentina vs chile anyone here gonna wake up and watch this match?
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GrandElf	Oct 7 2011, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
HyunA Senior Member 1,154 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: Merseyside RED	QUOTE(MessiX10 @ Oct 7 2011, 02:55 AM) i cant wait to see messi in argentina shirt again argentina vs chile anyone here gonna wake up and watch this match? Is there any live match show on astro??cant seem to find it....
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zickey	Oct 7 2011, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #288
VAPENESTJELUTONG Senior Member 2,125 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: shah alam / cyberjaya	QUOTE(MessiX10 @ Oct 7 2011, 02:55 AM) i cant wait to see messi in argentina shirt again argentina vs chile anyone here gonna wake up and watch this match? when and wat time
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MessiX10	Oct 7 2011, 05:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(GrandElf @ Oct 7 2011, 10:13 AM) Is there any live match show on astro??cant seem to find it.... hi bro~~ got live....astro supersport...tomorow 7am ^^ Added on October 7, 2011, 5:48 pm QUOTE(zickey @ Oct 7 2011, 11:06 AM) when and wat time 7am tomorow ~~astro supersport~~ can't wait to see messi This post has been edited by MessiX10: Oct 7 2011, 06:01 PM
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Innovation	Oct 11 2011, 10:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #290
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	anyone read the latest new of mourihno claiming that he was provoked before the eye-poking incident? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...ocation?cc=4716 hahahah
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MessiX10	Oct 16 2011, 02:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	how come this thread so quiet?? who is going to watch the match later? cant wait...
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sepulse	Oct 16 2011, 08:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	so far barca conceded 0 goal in camp nou for liga match.
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uzary	Oct 16 2011, 09:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #293
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	We won 3-0, nice 1st gol from messi, damn slepy, wake up early to sent parent to airport goin for haj. Tym to slep now. Btw we are just a point clear above rm.
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Peculator	Oct 16 2011, 07:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Another win at home ground. If Levante wins tonight, they're the only team that can catch up against us.
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Soundherg	Oct 18 2011, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
New Member Junior Member 19 posts Joined: Dec 2008	50 Best Barca european goals
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Innovation	Oct 20 2011, 08:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #296
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	2-0, another win... too bad, messi kena tiang few time... =/
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Blurnotion	Oct 20 2011, 08:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #297
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Oct 2011	Hello there, I am a new to the forum. I just came in to say I am a Barca and Liverpool fan. Been supporting Liverpool for almost 11 years and Barca about the same time. Mainly because of sibling rivalry really, since other members of the family supports Manchester and Madrid. I opted to be the odd one out. Anyway I really hope the results will continue to roll on for us as the last thing I want to see is the smug face of Mour carrying the La Liga at seasons end.
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uzary	Oct 20 2011, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(Blurnotion @ Oct 20 2011, 08:53 AM) Hello there, I am a new to the forum. I just came in to say I am a Barca and Liverpool fan. Been supporting Liverpool for almost 11 years and Barca about the same time. Mainly because of sibling rivalry really, since other members of the family supports Manchester and Madrid. I opted to be the odd one out. Anyway I really hope the results will continue to roll on for us as the last thing I want to see is the smug face of Mour carrying the La Liga at seasons end. U r welcome
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Blurnotion	Oct 21 2011, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #299
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Oct 2011	Thank you
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uzary	Oct 23 2011, 06:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #300
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	We draw 0-0, we loss a lot of chances, sevila's keeper is so invisible tonite, even messi penalty he saved. Wat a drama towarxs the end of the match.
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sepulse	Oct 23 2011, 06:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #301
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	sevilla keeper MOTM. messi missed a penalty in 90+ minutes. sad Added on October 24, 2011, 12:03 amkeita started most of our games this season. por que? This post has been edited by sepulse: Oct 24 2011, 12:03 AM
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Blurnotion	Oct 24 2011, 08:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #302
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Oct 2011	Sevilla brought the game on with them. We were ineffective. I was watching the stream on my laptop and it was pretty bad but the gist of it: a very disappointing draw. Onwards to the next game. And the Barca of England was routed 6-1 at their own ground.
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MessiX10	Oct 24 2011, 05:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #303
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(Blurnotion @ Oct 24 2011, 08:36 AM) Sevilla brought the game on with them. We were ineffective. I was watching the stream on my laptop and it was pretty bad but the gist of it: a very disappointing draw. Onwards to the next game. And the Barca of England was routed 6-1 at their own ground. haha lol humilated :>
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TSmatyrze	Oct 24 2011, 05:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Hey guys, sorry I haven't updated the thread for a very long time. I see we have a new cule here. Welcome Blurnotion Oh and for the news, I see we are rapidly becoming a racist club eh? After that stupid Villa rumor, now Cesc has become the the latest victim? So far Cesc has been adamant in denying the accusations through his twitter.
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Peculator	Oct 25 2011, 09:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(matyrze @ Oct 24 2011, 05:46 PM) Hey guys, sorry I haven't updated the thread for a very long time. I see we have a new cule here. Welcome Blurnotion Oh and for the news, I see we are rapidly becoming a racist club eh? After that stupid Villa rumor, now Cesc has become the the latest victim? So far Cesc has been adamant in denying the accusations through his twitter. Yep, it's been awhile.
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Innovation	Oct 25 2011, 04:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Lately, seem there are kinda alot of news abt player, XYZ were verbally abused... a trend huh? but, do hope the latest rumour on Cesc is not true...
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TSmatyrze	Oct 25 2011, 06:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #307
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(Innovation @ Oct 25 2011, 04:42 PM) but, do hope the latest rumour on Cesc is not true... Cesc obviously said something. I think he has some histories of being contentious on the pitch ever since his Arsenal and La Masia days. But to suggest that he threw racist remarks? So far no concrete evidence showed, like Villa and Busi's cases. This stupid rumor will die soon enough I think.
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raj84	Oct 25 2011, 07:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #308
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	New video from CANAL + showing Fabregas allegedly saying "Puto Negro de Mierda - f*ing black shit" at 2:10 that angered Kanoute XmgG2oh8Igs This post has been edited by raj84**: Oct 25 2011, 08:16 PM
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TSmatyrze	Oct 25 2011, 11:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(raj84 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:45 PM) New video from CANAL + showing Fabregas allegedly saying "Puto Negro de Mierda - f***ing black shit" at 2:10 that angered Kanoute Be careful there. I'm pretty sure that you, like me, don't know Spanish much. Even if we have a seemingly strong evidence, we still don't understand what Canal people said in Spanish. And like you've put it, Cesc ALLEGEDLY insulted Kanoute. You see? That's the best you can put it. Because in truth nobody is sure 100%. And what about Abidal, who was just about metres away from Cesc during the incident? Shouldn't he also reacted towards whatever horrible things Cesc may have said?
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raj84	Oct 25 2011, 11:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Oct 25 2011, 11:01 PM) Be careful there. I'm pretty sure that you, like me, don't know Spanish much. Even if we have a seemingly strong evidence, we still don't understand what Canal people said in Spanish. And like you've put it, Cesc ALLEGEDLY insulted Kanoute. You see? That's the best you can put it. Because in truth nobody is sure 100%. And what about Abidal, who was just about metres away from Cesc during the incident? Shouldn't he also reacted towards whatever horrible things Cesc may have said? Haha, come on bro. How can u say Abidal was meters away from incident ? Look the clip below n clearly u can see Abidal and Valdes running from nower n confront Kanoute !!! Busquets did a good job of preventing a bigger fight Anyhow, very hard for anyone 2 judge wat actually Fabregas said unless he himself comes out 2 clarify things yH1maPHq5fA This post has been edited by raj84: Oct 25 2011, 11:45 PM
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uzary	Oct 26 2011, 03:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	lucky win, could've ended with a draw if wasnt for xavi free kick, we hardly create a goal scoring opportunity, messi xjadi 2nite,feb also, somethg isnt right somewhere..
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fwhoam	Oct 26 2011, 04:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	Xavi free kick was superb.. lawa gile..
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TSmatyrze	Oct 26 2011, 03:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(raj84 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:43 PM) Anyhow, very hard for anyone 2 judge wat actually Fabregas said unless he himself comes out 2 clarify things Cesc did clarify things, if you followed his twits. Saying how he's been working with people of various background,and that his latest GF is Lebanese, and he'd never make racist remark while his own social circle consist of many people from many races. But of course since he is a Barca player that's never sufficient right? QUOTE(fwhoam @ Oct 26 2011, 04:13 AM) Xavi free kick was superb.. lawa gile.. A drab win, I think that's the only highlight. I think the players are really exhausted. IINM internatiobal friendly is just around the corner right? Another burden for them?
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sepulse	Oct 26 2011, 06:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	yalor xavi freekick nice wor.. btw messi made alot of bad pass lately..
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raj84	Oct 26 2011, 07:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Oct 26 2011, 03:36 PM) Cesc did clarify things, if you followed his twits. Saying how he's been working with people of various background,and that his latest GF is Lebanese, and he'd never make racist remark while his own social circle consist of many people from many races. But of course since he is a Barca player that's never sufficient right? A drab win, I think that's the only highlight. I think the players are really exhausted. IINM internatiobal friendly is just around the corner right? Another burden for them? I'm just curios about what he said Until can make Kanoute that angry !!!!!!! He nvr mention wat he said 2 Kanoute by the way
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uzary	Oct 26 2011, 08:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(raj84 @ Oct 26 2011, 07:39 PM) I'm just curios about what he said Until can make Kanoute that angry !!!!!!! He nvr mention wat he said 2 Kanoute by the way Doesnt really matter wat cesc said, anythg would anger kanoutte in that situation.. The tension n evrythg, let say u r kanoutte, the ref giv penalty to my team, last minute plak tu, then u go n kaco the ball b4 I kick it, then my fren came to u n sound ' nice move, congrat on ur yellow', I believe u also will snap, my point is, both kanoute n cesc hv apologize towards each otha, wateva he said doesnt matter anymore, even us, sometime we were racist too when we got mad, but we never really mean so.
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sepulse	Oct 29 2011, 09:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #317
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	whos gonna start tonite? villa-messi-cuenca again? cuenca come out of nowhere, remind me of pedro.. or some minutes for Deulofeu perhaps?
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Innovation	Oct 29 2011, 10:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #318
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	i read that pep bring in a few team B players today...Cuenca, Deulofeu and Montoya hopefully, thy get to play if we can secure the game b4 halftime... =)
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espidiyana	Oct 30 2011, 02:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
Ibrahimovic Senior Member 669 posts Joined: Jan 2006 From: Melawati\|\|Damansara\|\|Cahaya SPK	any live stream??
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sepulse	Oct 30 2011, 02:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #320
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	messi 3 - 0 mallorca
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botaknet	Oct 30 2011, 03:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
Casual Junior Member 316 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur	Messi give a sign 1,2,3. So probably he will score 3. Then that's it, he scores 3. Walla weh.
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sepulse	Oct 30 2011, 03:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	golllllaaaaazzooo by alves. 5-0 manittaaaa!
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Innovation	Oct 30 2011, 10:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	fuyoo, nice goal frm alves.... n glad that cuenca did score 1 fr himself....
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sepulse	Oct 30 2011, 10:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(Innovation @ Oct 30 2011, 10:02 AM) fuyoo, nice goal frm alves.... n glad that cuenca did score 1 fr himself.... yeah cuenca is good too. btw feel sorry for villa. he need a goal to boost his confidence..
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Innovation	Oct 30 2011, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #325
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	i think he should be fine... a win for the team is more important than anything. and his current position is different frm the time in Valencia...
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uzary	Oct 30 2011, 12:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Villa will score again, no doubt, so far I didnt hear any complain or rwport of him uncomfortable or anytg, hope he wont b lyk zlantan worrying bout not able to play in the 1st eleven
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sepulse	Oct 30 2011, 02:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	dunno la. i kinda feel sorry for him, missed another 1 on 1 situation last night (cuenca did better). his current form is worrying me. he need a goal to boost his confidence IMHO. and i`ll be happy if alves maintain last night performance. perfect cross, perfect goal, perfect games! messi? speak for itself!
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Peculator	Oct 31 2011, 10:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Nice, big home win. QUOTE(i.cuenca @ Oct 30 2011, 02:27 PM) david villa is 1 of the best strikers in the world and if pep put him in the middle not on the wing he will score and don't compare between zlatan and villa because zlatan is a crybaby Well, when Zlatan with us, we always cross at the right side because Zlatan good with header and he's taller. And Villa pretty good in finishing.
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sepulse	Oct 31 2011, 12:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	fcb official site says sanchez will join the squad to Plzen. i miss this guy.
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uzary	Oct 31 2011, 12:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(sepulse @ Oct 31 2011, 12:08 PM) fcb official site says sanchez will join the squad to Plzen. i miss this guy. Kind of funny to c most of our bought player - affelay,sanchez n febregas injured.. Hehe kinda like we stick to the same old team as las season.. Hope all the injured players recover soon n got well n not to injured themselve again. Feb n sanchez in comin back to play, only affelay stay sideline till nex year, I pity this guy, he is yet to show muc to the team, n I hope he stayed wit us longer to show something n not to loan/sold to anybody b4 he prove himself worthty. I hav faith in this guy. Recover fast affelay.
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Innovation	Oct 31 2011, 03:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	waoh, good to know alexis is travel with the team. Wana see him play again cz he is so energetic...
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Lionel10Messi	Oct 31 2011, 08:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #332
New Member Junior Member 33 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: Camp Nou	QUOTE(sepulse @ Oct 31 2011, 12:08 PM) fcb official site says sanchez will join the squad to Plzen. i miss this guy. we never really see him in action yet, didnt we? by the way, messi is back on track.
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rickysay	Nov 1 2011, 12:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
Arsenal F.C. Senior Member 1,018 posts Joined: Jul 2007	Never doubted the little guy for a while. Players have their up/down days. Messi just wanna raise CR7's hopes high so he can crush those dreams into tiny pieces when he wins the Balon D'Or again.
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uzary	Nov 1 2011, 11:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	btw guys sevilla suffered their first defeat already after levante. so we r the only one still unbeaten..
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Innovation	Nov 1 2011, 08:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	barca players dominate the Ballon d'Or shortlist, 8 player were short-listed..lol, bt such a waste silva is not in it...hmmp
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MessiX10	Nov 1 2011, 11:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(rickysay @ Nov 1 2011, 12:03 AM) Never doubted the little guy for a while. Players have their up/down days. Messi just wanna raise CR7's hopes high so he can crush those dreams into tiny pieces when he wins the Balon D'Or again. +1 thumbs up ! haha messi = a class above c.ronaldo
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uzary	Nov 2 2011, 01:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Anyone got any streamin link bout this mornin cl match?
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fwhoam	Nov 2 2011, 03:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	Milan draw with bate.. so if we win we will be at the top of the table..
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Innovation	Nov 2 2011, 03:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	Barcelona: Valdes, Dani Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abidal, Busquets, Thiago, Fabregas, Adriano, Messi, Cuenca. Subs: Pinto, Xavi, Iniesta, Sanchez, Mascherano, Keita, Maxwell. Villa is not playing... hmm, but Cuenca get another chance..LOL woo...1-0 edi, messsssiiiiii This post has been edited by Innovation: Nov 2 2011, 04:11 AM
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annalies	Nov 2 2011, 04:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 2 2011, 01:23 AM) Anyone got any streamin link bout this mornin cl match? http://twitter.com/#!/barcastuff
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Innovation	Nov 2 2011, 04:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	yes, 2-0 by half time....
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uzary	Nov 2 2011, 04:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	The enviroment n the crowd are really scary huhu This post has been edited by uzary: Nov 2 2011, 04:37 AM
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annalies	Nov 2 2011, 04:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Halftime. 2nd half lets bring on xavi n iniesta. more goals
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Innovation	Nov 2 2011, 05:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	another hatrick by messi...well done..XD
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annalies	Nov 2 2011, 05:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Hatrick again ? lulz. Leo Messi you amazing little thing, AMAZING.
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annalies	Nov 2 2011, 05:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	yeah ! great play by sanchez too.
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uzary	Nov 2 2011, 05:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	credit to pique for the beautiful back-heel, the match shown why messi so great when all his teammate are great too..
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sepulse	Nov 2 2011, 06:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #348
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	the 4th goal, some sexy assist there. messi on fire!!
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Lionel10Messi	Nov 2 2011, 08:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
New Member Junior Member 33 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: Camp Nou	QUOTE(sepulse @ Nov 2 2011, 06:51 AM) the 4th goal, some sexy assist there. messi on fire!! that happens when people doubt him.
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R80	Nov 2 2011, 11:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #350
Getting Started Junior Member 186 posts Joined: Jan 2009	any idea why xaviesta is not playing?
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TSmatyrze	Nov 2 2011, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	2 successive hattricks, without Xavi and Iniesta supporting him. Messi is nothing without them eh? Isn't it just amazing that Messi has been answering critics throughout his young career by his performance on the pitch, and never with his big mouth? Highlight and the sight of speechless Skysport pundits. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm349x_fc...port#from=embed
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Innovation	Nov 2 2011, 01:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #352
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	i think is team rotation to let the player to have a rest, even villa is not with the team n he is not injured... but good thing is most of the player is back except pedro and affelay.. On side note, Cuenca is rly nt bad, lol....totally can fit into the first team as well, if u guys saw his run and ball controlling...
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barca96	Nov 2 2011, 02:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Peculator @ Oct 31 2011, 10:15 AM) Nice, big home win. Well, when Zlatan with us, we always cross at the right side because Zlatan good with header and he's taller. And Villa pretty good in finishing. Are you assuming that he is a good header because he is taller? How many times has he scored with his head? I think messi scored more with his head. Zlatan is pretty scared to head the ball. Even if he has a free header, he would try out some ninja kick. It got to a point where Pep got mad during a match. I followed him since his Ajax days since I'm an Ajax fan too. Added on November 2, 2011, 2:10 pm QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 2 2011, 05:54 AM) credit to pique for the beautiful back-heel, the match shown why messi so great when all his teammate are great too.. He did the same thing vs. Madrid remember? Pique was really eager to get up front last night This post has been edited by barca96: Nov 2 2011, 02:10 PM
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TSmatyrze	Nov 3 2011, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 2 2011, 02:08 PM) Are you assuming that he is a good header because he is taller? How many times has he scored with his head? I think messi scored more with his head. Zlatan is pretty scared to head the ball. Even if he has a free header, he would try out some ninja kick. It got to a point where Pep got mad during a match. I followed him since his Ajax days since I'm an Ajax fan too. Well he didn't suggest we were successful with our supposedly "plan B" aka the crossing game. In truth during that season it was proved that we have no decent crosser and, yes as you pointed out, Ibra was not a good header. But Cuenca has been a revelation so far. He helped the team a lot with his crosses. Perhaps we will see more goals like the one Cesc scores. Now its time for our midget players to learn how to time their late runs into the box to attack the ball. I think Cesc and Thiago are the best ones at doing this among current players. Added on November 3, 2011, 3:05 pmOh and apparently Cuenca is a freestyler too aLQl94VCG3M This post has been edited by matyrze: Nov 3 2011, 03:05 PM
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barca96	Nov 3 2011, 08:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 3 2011, 02:34 PM) Well he didn't suggest we were successful with our supposedly "plan B" aka the crossing game. In truth during that season it was proved that we have no decent crosser and, yes as you pointed out, Ibra was not a good header. But Cuenca has been a revelation so far. He helped the team a lot with his crosses. Perhaps we will see more goals like the one Cesc scores. Now its time for our midget players to learn how to time their late runs into the box to attack the ball. I think Cesc and Thiago are the best ones at doing this among current players. Added on November 3, 2011, 3:05 pmOh and apparently Cuenca is a freestyler too aLQl94VCG3M I also didn't talk about us being successful. I'm jsut talking about Zlatan and people's perception that he is good with headers because he is tall. It's like saying, Messi is weak because he is small.
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TSmatyrze	Nov 4 2011, 02:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	"Barcelona was a childhood dream and I was walking on air, It started well but then Messi started to talk." "He wanted to play in the middle, not on the wing, so the system changed from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1." "I was sacrificed and no longer had the freedom on the pitch I need to succeed." "So I asked for a meeting with Guardiola - for a discussion, not an argument." "I said I was being used in the wrong way and that they shouldn’t have bought me if they wanted another type of player." "I told him what a friend had said to me - 'you bought a Ferrari but drive it like a Fiat'." "The chat seemed to go well but then Guardiola started to freeze me out." "I would walk into a room; he would leave. He would greet everyone by saying hello, but would ignore me." "I had done a lot to adapt - the Barca players were like schoolboys, following the coach blindly, whereas I was used to asking 'why?'." "I like guys who run red lights, not pedantic and strict rules. So I tried to be overly nice, didn’t dare lose my temper." "But after this I stopped trying to adapt. For example, at Barca players were banned from driving their sports cars to training." "I thought this was ridiculous - it was no-one’s business what car I drive - so in April, before a match with Almeria, I drove my Ferrari Enzo to work. It caused a scene." "Pep was staring at me and I lost it. I thought ‘there is my enemy, scratching his bald head’. I yelled to him: ‘you have no balls!’ And probably worse things than that." 'You are s***ing yourself because of the lose against Inter. You can go to hell!’ I was completely mad." "I threw a box full of training gear across the room, it crashed to the floor and Pep said nothing, just put stuff back in the box." "I’m not violent, but if I were Guardiola I would have been frightened." credit to Barcastuff, as Ibra wrote in his book. So guys, what can you make of this?
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Muhammad Syukri	Nov 4 2011, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
Enthusiast Senior Member 821 posts Joined: Mar 2009	He prefer to drive ferrari than taking the team bus.
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Innovation	Nov 4 2011, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	no comment on ibrahimovic contribution... he do contribute during the time in barca, and i wish him the best in coming days... and those line,seem like some ego with him, luckily pep is not ferguson, else he will have some personal hair dryer session..hehe
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TSmatyrze	Nov 4 2011, 06:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	I think his story has shaded some interesting nature inside our dressing room atmosphere. The 'schoolboy' word just show that Pep has put a number of restrictions, and our players are just happily obliged to follow them. No ego whatsoever occur. I think I'm pretty much prefer that kinda atmosphere in our team. Much more stability in it. Well, of course it was until Ibra cause the scenery. Secondly, I think it just put to the bed the accusation that Pep didn't want Eto'o because of his attitude, because if Pep did, surely he wouldn't want another hot headed guy. As I said in previous thread (or was it 2 years ago?), the 'feeling' was just about football, and nothing personal. Oh well, Pep for all his accomplishment, is still a rookie. Much things to learn I suppose in terms of relationship with his players. Or maybe in choosing which player to buy.
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barca96	Nov 5 2011, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 4 2011, 06:49 PM) Oh well, Pep for all his accomplishment, is still a rookie. Much things to learn I suppose in terms of relationship with his players. Or maybe in choosing which player to buy. I'm a bit ol fashion guy and only got internet at home in July 2009. One of the first things I did was to bombard the Barcelona email with emails why they shouldn't sign Ibra and instead go for Villa. It was at the time when Laporta was reported to be in Milan or Moratti in Barcelona, one of those 2. I just dislike Ibra for his inability to perform in big matches, his horrible attitude and his PIZZA maker turned agent. Since I am an Ajax fan I knew his problems. But for him to pick up a fight with Pep in the dressing room is really disrespectful, the worst act so far. It actually made me sad for a couple of hours thinking about Pep. And yesterday another news came out that Ibra boasted how he would beat Pep up in public and his agent said Ibra would keep his word. Anyways, we have the last laugh. He can keep his Ferrari while we are collecting trophies. On an unrelated topic, the Barca youth team in the Baby Champions League beat Man City 4-1. Imagine if that squad included G. Deulefeu, S. Gomez, Espinosa who are all in Barca B now.
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TSmatyrze	Nov 5 2011, 03:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 5 2011, 02:28 PM) I'm a bit ol fashion guy and only got internet at home in July 2009. One of the first things I did was to bombard the Barcelona email with emails why they shouldn't sign Ibra and instead go for Villa. It was at the time when Laporta was reported to be in Milan or Moratti in Barcelona, one of those 2. I just dislike Ibra for his inability to perform in big matches, his horrible attitude and his PIZZA maker turned agent. Since I am an Ajax fan I knew his problems. But for him to pick up a fight with Pep in the dressing room is really disrespectful, the worst act so far. It actually made me sad for a couple of hours thinking about Pep. And yesterday another news came out that Ibra boasted how he would beat Pep up in public and his agent said Ibra would keep his word. Anyways, we have the last laugh. He can keep his Ferrari while we are collecting trophies. On an unrelated topic, the Barca youth team in the Baby Champions League beat Man City 4-1. Imagine if that squad included G. Deulefeu, S. Gomez, Espinosa who are all in Barca B now. Yeah Ibra acted like a douche. That's pretty obvious. But I think Ibra had a point about the Ferrari Fiat bit. It seemed like Pep didn't have definite plan for him. Like you pointed out, if he had planned to play Messi in the false 9 role, then Villa was the much better choice than Ibra, as Ibra's best role is the false 9 too. And its incredibly surprising considering how serious our efforts were, both monetary and time. I can't fault him if he feels that he had wasted his time at Camp Nou. Last night I watched the B team played against Cordoba. Gerard and Espinosa were playing. Both had pretty average game, but Gerard did flourished during early stages and scored the only goal. He drifted away badly thereafter though. But I heard he has bern good witht he B team so far. I heard he was given atanding ovation at Huesca iinm last week. Are you following the Youth Champions League?
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Blurnotion	Nov 6 2011, 05:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #362
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Oct 2011	Youth sides I can't find the links tho. Anyone can share?
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TSmatyrze	Nov 7 2011, 03:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Wow Cesc very nice header, 1-1 LOL
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sepulse	Nov 7 2011, 03:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	what a cross by abidall!! slippery pitch, bad for our game no?
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TSmatyrze	Nov 7 2011, 03:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Well it made the game too fast paced at times, that Busquets looked lost in the middle. Good fight put up by Los Leones so far. Great defensive tactic and counterattack plan.
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uzary	Nov 7 2011, 04:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #366
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	fuuhhh , lucky to draw, horrible pitch condition, 1point is better than nothin at all.
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sepulse	Nov 7 2011, 04:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	the pitch ruined our game. messi saves our assss
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TSmatyrze	Nov 7 2011, 05:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Yeap, horrible pitch. Overgrown grass, heavily clogged with water. Furthermore they were absolute lucky to get the 2nd goal. But I guess we were also kinda lucky with Messi's goal and Amorebieta's sending off. So can't complain much I guess. What struck me the most is how on earth Athletic had the stamina to defend like that? And all them had that sudden burst of pace to catch up our players even Messi.
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Peculator	Nov 7 2011, 11:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	FUUUUUU last minute goal saved us. Next up Round 32 for Copa Del Rey.
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uzary	Nov 7 2011, 01:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #370
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 7 2011, 05:12 AM) Yeap, horrible pitch. Overgrown grass, heavily clogged with water. Furthermore they were absolute lucky to get the 2nd goal. But I guess we were also kinda lucky with Messi's goal and Amorebieta's sending off. So can't complain much I guess. What struck me the most is how on earth Athletic had the stamina to defend like that? And all them had that sudden burst of pace to catch up our players even Messi. I dont think them catch up to messi's pace, its messi that slowed in that kinda pitch. This post has been edited by uzary: Nov 7 2011, 10:01 PM
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TSmatyrze	Nov 7 2011, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Yeah I guess you are right there. Seriously it was one hell of an energetic display though. Btw, anyone know why Villa didn't start? I didn't know any fitness problems about him.
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barca96	Nov 7 2011, 04:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 7 2011, 04:12 PM) Yeah I guess you are right there. Seriously it was one hell of an energetic display though. Btw, anyone know why Villa didn't start? I didn't know any fitness problems about him. Villa had a row with messi remember? Hehe no just kidding. He had a slight discomfort since last week. He looked good though when he came on, jsut need to sort out his shooting skills. What a tough match. Our team just don't have a good relationship with the nature (volcano, rain). I finally thought that we could win an away game which I think we had a chance cos we didn't play horribly even in those conditions. Imagine if it didn't pour like that. I don't follow the Barca babies. No time for that. I did download or stream them last year though but no time for that now. Espinosa, Rafinha and G. Deulofeu are supposed to be the biggest talents. Many said that Rafinha is better than his big brother Thiago, we shall see. But from what I;ve seen during the pre-season games, only Deulofeu failed to impress me. He looks like a hit or miss guy. But since then he had a standing ovation at an away match and was even being called up and actually played some minutes so I guess he must be doing things right. Added on November 7, 2011, 4:32 pm QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 5 2011, 03:27 PM) Yeah Ibra acted like a douche. That's pretty obvious. But I think Ibra had a point about the Ferrari Fiat bit. It seemed like Pep didn't have definite plan for him. Like you pointed out, if he had planned to play Messi in the false 9 role, then Villa was the much better choice than Ibra, as Ibra's best role is the false 9 too. And its incredibly surprising considering how serious our efforts were, both monetary and time. I can't fault him if he feels that he had wasted his time at Camp Nou. At first I thought that you agreed with Ibra driving a Ferrari to the stadium But that was really low of Ibra when everyone drove in company car. It offended both Pep and his team mates. Imagine you're supposed to wear a school uniform and one kid wears an original Gucci cap, YSL shirt, G. Armani pants and LV shoes to top it off. How would you feel? Ibra doesn't get the whole uniformity and equality thing. This post has been edited by barca96: Nov 7 2011, 04:32 PM
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sepulse	Nov 7 2011, 06:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 7 2011, 04:29 PM) I don't follow the Barca babies. No time for that. I did download or stream them last year though but no time for that now. Espinosa, Rafinha and G. Deulofeu are supposed to be the biggest talents. Many said that Rafinha is better than his big brother Thiago, we shall see. But from what I;ve seen during the pre-season games, only Deulofeu failed to impress me. He looks like a hit or miss guy. But since then he had a standing ovation at an away match and was even being called up and actually played some minutes so I guess he must be doing things right. Cuenca !! last nite the pitch super suck, macam padang depan rumah.
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Innovation	Nov 7 2011, 09:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	watch the match highlights.. ehm, yeap..the pitch condition is rly bad due to the heavy downpour, glad we walk out with 1 point n no player injured....
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barca96	Nov 9 2011, 07:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Crap!! The match tonight won't be shown either live nor delayed telecast. Was looking forward to see some youngsters on HD on TV. Gotta spend a few hours downloading tomorrow.Sigh.
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uzary	Nov 10 2011, 12:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Just to update u guys, we won last nite 0-1, iniesta scored.
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DarthVader71	Nov 12 2011, 11:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
New Member Junior Member 44 posts Joined: May 2009	Wow, FC Barcelona thread !! I've found where I belong .. this ma home man !
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99killer	Nov 12 2011, 05:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
Getting Started Junior Member 56 posts Joined: Mar 2009	QUOTE(DarthVader71 @ Nov 12 2011, 11:38 AM) Wow, FC Barcelona thread !! I've found where I belong .. this ma home man ! glory hunter spotted who is your fav barca player?
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DarthVader71	Nov 12 2011, 09:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
New Member Junior Member 44 posts Joined: May 2009	rebecca black
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sepulse	Nov 13 2011, 03:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	fab missed a sitter. and villa played fulltime ffs. fk VDB!
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TSmatyrze	Nov 13 2011, 03:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #381
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	At least he brought off all our midfielders for the 2nd half
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badboy_lun	Nov 14 2011, 12:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
Getting Started Junior Member 126 posts Joined: Dec 2009	Hey guys, there are rumors about Liverpool is VERY interested on our D.Villa? This making we worry
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TSmatyrze	Nov 14 2011, 03:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	That's tabloid story, so don't worry But if you follow Revista de La Liga, well they do have interesting story they speculated about Villa. Read here. If you read it, please take note the words "story" and "speculated"
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Muhammad Syukri	Nov 14 2011, 12:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
Enthusiast Senior Member 821 posts Joined: Mar 2009	the problem between Guardiola and Ibra quoted from ibra autobiography book: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE A light snowfall came. It was like the spaniards had never seen snow before, and in our hood, in the hills above Barcelona, cars were smashing to the left and right, and Mino, the fat idiot - the wonderful fat idiot I should add if anyone would misunderstand me - froze like a dog in his summer shoes and light jacket and convinced me to take the Audi. It almost ended in disaster. On a downhill street we lost control of the car and smashed into a stone wall. The whole right side of the car was demolished. Many had crashed during the bad weather, but no one as badly as me. I won the crash contest too, and we laughed a lot about that. And I was actually feeling like myself sometimes. I felt ok. But then Messi started talking. Messi is awesome. f***ing unbelievable. I don't know him very well. We are very different personalities. He came to Barca 13 years old and is brought up in their culture. He doesn't have any problems with that school shit. In the team, the play revolves around him, which is natural really. He's brilliant, but now I had come, and I was scoring more than he did. He went to Guardiola and said: "I don't want to play on the right side, on the wing, anymore. I want to be in the middle." That was where I was. But Guardiola didn't give a shit. He changed tactics. From 4-3-3 he switched to 4-5-1 with me on top and Messi right behind, leaving me in the shadow. All balls went through Messi and I couldn't play my game. I have to be free as a bird on the field. I'm the guy who wants to make a difference on all levels. But Guardiola sacrificed me. That's the truth. He locked me in up there. OK, I can understand his situation. Messi was the star. Guardiola has to listen to him. But come on! I had scored goal after goal in Barca, I was lethal too. He couldn't adapt the team after one single guy. I mean: why the hell did he buy me then? No one pays that kind of money just to strangle me as a player. Guardiola had to think of both of us, and of course, the mood amongst the club management became nervous. I was their biggest investment ever, and I didn't feel good in the new lineup. I was too expensive not to feel good. Txiki Begiristain, the sports director, was pushing me, he said I had to speak with the coach. "Work it out!" I didn't like it. I'm a player who accept the situation. But sure, fine, I did it! A friend of mine said "Zlatan, it's like if Barca bought a Ferrari but are driving it like a Fiat", and I thought, yeah, that's a good argument. Guardiola had transformed me into a simpler, worse player. And the whole team was losing from that.
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barca96	Nov 14 2011, 12:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Nov 14 2011, 12:30 PM) And the whole team was losing from that. Yeah. We lost the CL and when he left we won it back. Did you guys notice how England scored the goal? Through a dive from Milner who was then rewarded the FK which was then converted into a goal. Milner threw himself to the ground.
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sepulse	Nov 14 2011, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	ibra shiet again. cant he get over it? he is no messi and his attitude is just...
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skystrike	Nov 15 2011, 12:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
back to normal Senior Member 1,279 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: behind you...
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barca96	Nov 15 2011, 01:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(skystrike @ Nov 15 2011, 12:32 AM) That is GOLD man!!! It is so true!
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sepulse	Nov 15 2011, 07:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(skystrike @ Nov 15 2011, 12:32 AM) but all the team he join, won the league right? 2008 inter - serie a champ 2009 barca - la liga champ 2010 milan - serie a champ he is the jinx for cl This post has been edited by sepulse: Nov 15 2011, 07:31 AM
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Innovation	Nov 16 2011, 07:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	LoL at the pic...nice 1, he rly is a jinx to any team whom wan to win UCL...
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solstice818	Nov 18 2011, 04:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
You'll Never Walk Alone Senior Member 4,503 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: The Far Away Venus Status: Being Insua-fied	hmm was wondering what you guys think about Rosell's idea of reducing teams in league and have a new breakaway league for champions?
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TSmatyrze	Nov 18 2011, 06:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 18 2011, 04:55 PM) hmm was wondering what you guys think about Rosell's idea of reducing teams in league and have a new breakaway league for champions? This question deserves a new thred. Besides Rosell represented his view as the vice president of ECA, not as a Barca president. Moreover, while the Champions League suggestion is related to the European scene, reducing teams in the league is only a suggestion for La Liga. Read here. And apparently Pep has voiced his support for this idea, saying that it will increase the level of competitiveness in La Liga. Whatever, just create a new thread Sols. FL is seriously lacking of neutral thread these days Or perhaps we can use the Champions league thread? Added on November 18, 2011, 6:53 pmOh, ntw for Barca related news, Rafinha is set to sign a contract extension until 2014, thus also banish the RM rumor Congratz Rafa!! source. This post has been edited by matyrze: Nov 18 2011, 06:53 PM
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solstice818	Nov 19 2011, 02:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #393
You'll Never Walk Alone Senior Member 4,503 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: The Far Away Venus Status: Being Insua-fied	QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 18 2011, 06:39 PM) This question deserves a new thred. Besides Rosell represented his view as the vice president of ECA, not as a Barca president. Moreover, while the Champions League suggestion is related to the European scene, reducing teams in the league is only a suggestion for La Liga. Read here. And apparently Pep has voiced his support for this idea, saying that it will increase the level of competitiveness in La Liga. Whatever, just create a new thread Sols. FL is seriously lacking of neutral thread these days Or perhaps we can use the Champions league thread? source. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2114933 Thread created. I m keen to hear your view on this. Especially the one he said to leave UEFA and make a new league thingy.
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sepulse	Nov 20 2011, 03:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	2-0 HT. Pique & Messi.
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Innovation	Nov 20 2011, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	4-0 win.... nice to see villa score again with tat assist of Cuenca.. and did anyone saw Cuenca skill to pass ppl in zidane style...woah...this kid is rly something..
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sepulse	Nov 20 2011, 11:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	i sleep at 2nd half. really cant tahan.. glad to see villa found the net.he really need it. btw, alexis and maxwell pairing is awesome!
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TimPTGirl	Nov 21 2011, 10:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
Getting Started Junior Member 123 posts Joined: Oct 2011	i'm curious bout sumthing.. thiago plays the same role as xavi.. den wat bout fabregas?
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MADReaLJL	Nov 21 2011, 11:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,050 posts Joined: Mar 2005	QUOTE(TimPTGirl @ Nov 21 2011, 10:32 PM) i'm curious bout sumthing.. thiago plays the same role as xavi.. den wat bout fabregas? a more direct midfielder than iniesta?
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barca96	Nov 22 2011, 01:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ Nov 21 2011, 11:42 PM) a more direct midfielder than iniesta? exactly. like pep said, he is the most direct midfielder we have. direct and box crashing (something that xavi used to do).
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TSmatyrze	Nov 22 2011, 04:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 22 2011, 01:18 PM) exactly. like pep said, he is the most direct midfielder we have. direct and box crashing (something that xavi used to do). And he can play as our striker too aka Messi's backup
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sepulse	Nov 22 2011, 06:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #401
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(TimPTGirl @ Nov 21 2011, 10:32 PM) i'm curious bout sumthing.. thiago plays the same role as xavi.. den wat bout fabregas? false 9 !
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barca96	Nov 23 2011, 11:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(sepulse @ Nov 22 2011, 06:42 PM) false 9 ! Nope. Messi is the false 9 and Cesc is the false 10. I wonder who the false 1 is
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sepulse	Nov 23 2011, 11:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #403
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 23 2011, 11:26 AM) Nope. Messi is the false 9 and Cesc is the false 10. I wonder who the false 1 is sometime messi and cesc swap position yo. btw tonight milan vs barca, a good test for us before the classico. i hope i wont miss this.
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SUSamon_meiz	Nov 24 2011, 12:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	3.30 this morning right? Couple of hours to go
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MessiX10	Nov 24 2011, 01:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 24 2011, 12:52 AM) 3.30 this morning right? Couple of hours to go cant wait = )
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uzary	Nov 24 2011, 03:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Guys, kinda weird about our player positioning right? Why does puyol played as right back? Hope pep knows what is he doin..
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myhotgary2	Nov 24 2011, 06:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
Joined: Yesterday Senior Member 617 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: You Kay?	QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 24 2011, 03:50 AM) Guys, kinda weird about our player positioning right? Why does puyol played as right back? Hope pep knows what is he doin.. Puyol has experience playing there, he's played there ever so often and also before he was a permanent CB. But playing him at RB tonight is really weird coz he definitely has no pace for SB anymore (even seedorf outran him in an instance), whereas we would have missed the steel and mind he could have contributed in the centre. Wat happened to Dani and Pique? I think pitting pique against ibra would mean that ibra could no more be such an easy channel for long balls from their defence, as we have seen tonight. Nevertheless a win to top the group. Can't complain. Maybe resting players after the international break is really important when el classico is around the corner. Two amazing passes from messi to see the 1st and 3rd goal was good enough. Fab and villa was a bit off tho.
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sepulse	Nov 24 2011, 07:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	messi messi messi. wat a sexy pass. now pep can rest his player for the last cl group game. and valencia 7 - 0 genk lol
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Peculator	Nov 24 2011, 08:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Back from work, straight lepak at mamak. That time stilll 2-2 but thank god Xavi scored to beat Milan on away ground.
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barca96	Nov 24 2011, 12:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	QUOTE(myhotgary2 @ Nov 24 2011, 06:18 AM) Puyol has experience playing there, he's played there ever so often and also before he was a permanent CB. But playing him at RB tonight is really weird coz he definitely has no pace for SB anymore (even seedorf outran him in an instance), whereas we would have missed the steel and mind he could have contributed in the centre. Wat happened to Dani and Pique? I think pitting pique against ibra would mean that ibra could no more be such an easy channel for long balls from their defence, as we have seen tonight. Nevertheless a win to top the group. Can't complain. Maybe resting players after the international break is really important when el classico is around the corner. Two amazing passes from messi to see the 1st and 3rd goal was good enough. Fab and villa was a bit off tho. 1) I know right. Puyol should've just played at CB and sMasch at RB, he played there before., can't remember vs. who. 2) Pep saw how LLorente bullied Pique when we played Bilbao and made some adjustments I guess. I am really not confident that Barca would retain the CL title and the league this season. They just don't have the ability to pressure so intensively anymore and they don't retain possession that good anymore. It's almost December and the team still hasn't reached their peak. It took me an hour to fall asleep again after the match.
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uzary	Nov 24 2011, 01:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 24 2011, 12:37 PM) 1) I know right. Puyol should've just played at CB and sMasch at RB, he played there before., can't remember vs. who. 2) Pep saw how LLorente bullied Pique when we played Bilbao and made some adjustments I guess. I am really not confident that Barca would retain the CL title and the league this season. They just don't have the ability to pressure so intensively anymore and they don't retain possession that good anymore. It's almost December and the team still hasn't reached their peak. It took me an hour to fall asleep again after the match. i agreed wit u, this season either we r not better than last season or other teams knows how to press us when we posses the ball.. also most team that manage to draw with usually play a very fast pace when counter n also when pressing.. kinda our strategy turn against us.. but wateva it is i still hav faith our team will win either cl or liga, but both, that r very tough..
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sliqueliques	Nov 24 2011, 02:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 24 2011, 01:02 PM) i agreed wit u, this season either we r not better than last season or other teams knows how to press us when we posses the ball.. also most team that manage to draw with usually play a very fast pace when counter n also when pressing.. kinda our strategy turn against us.. but wateva it is i still hav faith our team will win either cl or liga, but both, that r very tough.. perhaps we can play possession + abit more speed. i think we need new defend.
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TSmatyrze	Nov 25 2011, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(barca96 @ Nov 24 2011, 12:37 PM) It's almost December and the team still hasn't reached their peak. To be fair to the team they have plenty of fitness issue this season. Many of our players have various muscular discomforts this season. And yet we won our UCL grouppretty comfortably, and still only 3 points behind the marauding leaders in La Liga. If anyone who should be praised for our fairly good fortune so far, he must be Pep, however strange or over-tinkered his tactics might be. I think its better to have this fitness problems in first half of the season and fix it immediately, rather than during the second half, and losing everything in the process.
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uzary	Nov 27 2011, 07:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Our first loss has finally arrived, 1-0 to gatafe.. we really unlucky tonite, almost get a draw, but anyway gatafe defend very good. 6 points now behind real madrid, levante after this, then the el classico.. if we cant win both matches after this especially against madrid, then i guess this season the throne will goes back to real madrid. frankly speakin, our performance currently way below par,and on the otha hand real is in a superb form.. will it be a treble season for real this tym?? only us can stop that.. hopefully..
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Peculator	Nov 27 2011, 09:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 27 2011, 07:00 AM) Our first loss has finally arrived, 1-0 to gatafe.. we really unlucky tonite, almost get a draw, but anyway gatafe defend very good. 6 points now behind real madrid, levante after this, then the el classico.. if we cant win both matches after this especially against madrid, then i guess this season the throne will goes back to real madrid. frankly speakin, our performance currently way below par,and on the otha hand real is in a superb form.. will it be a treble season for real this tym?? only us can stop that.. hopefully.. Yeah, what a luck for Getafe to hold their 1 goal lead. We ran out of luck last night but don't worry 'cause we'll might win later matches.
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annalies	Nov 27 2011, 12:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	forza barca.
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Innovation	Nov 27 2011, 01:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	sofar,we rly nt up to last season performance,maybe is bcz of those injury crisis,n now is 6oint behind rm.....i thk pep will need to figure out the dfence problem
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barca96	Nov 27 2011, 03:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	sitting 6 points behind them will mean that mourinho can play for a draw and play ultra defensive when we play them at the bernabeu. they don't need to win, a draw is good enough. hopefully we will enter clasico with a 3 point difference only. that will be a big factor. 3 points = madrid needs to win 6 points = madrid can play safe
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MessiX10	Nov 27 2011, 07:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	lose 1-0 sad...
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TSmatyrze	Nov 28 2011, 03:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Good news is Cesc, Iniesta and Sanchez has resumed full training. Hopefully we will get no more injury issue and everything will be back to normal. Ever since the start of pre season Pep hasn't been able to work with his full first team players consistently. The only positive outcome from this injury havoc is the emergence of Cuenca. But we still have several notable issue. Afellay, and, well, its weird nobody hasn't mentioned it yet, Tito is recovering from the operation to remove a tumor from his parotid gland. Second member of our team to be strucked by a malign tumor. Anims Tito!! This post has been edited by matyrze: Nov 28 2011, 03:30 PM
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raj84	Nov 29 2011, 04:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	2nites game got live ah ???
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annalies	Nov 29 2011, 04:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	QUOTE(raj84 @ Nov 29 2011, 04:20 PM) 2nites game got live ah ??? barca vs ?
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raj84	Nov 29 2011, 06:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(annalies @ Nov 29 2011, 04:42 PM) barca vs ? Rayo Vallecano
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TSmatyrze	Nov 29 2011, 06:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	No live me think vs Rayo at 4am
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annalies	Nov 29 2011, 07:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	QUOTE(raj84 @ Nov 29 2011, 06:12 PM) Rayo Vallecano QUOTE(matyrze @ Nov 29 2011, 06:15 PM) No live me think vs Rayo at 4am oh ok2. thx.
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fareezth	Nov 29 2011, 10:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Oct 2007	hope barca not lose another point tonite....rayo learn and try to play safe lke getafe...wait...wait....wait...and score from dead ball situation....
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MessiX10	Nov 30 2011, 02:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	i hope we win =) !
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uzary	Nov 30 2011, 03:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Guys, just check,we hav a live match against against rayo on 811, I wakeup fir my otha fav team juve to play against napoli, too bad astro fuk me up n only show it ob hd channel, lucky to c barca tonite,best if luck tonite for our team n my otha favrite team
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Peculator	Nov 30 2011, 09:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	I thought someone posted about our win and surprisingly, we win 4-0. Keep up the pace for another next 3 games (2 La Liga matches and 1 for UEFA CL).
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uzary	Nov 30 2011, 10:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Sexy win..
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SUSamon_meiz	Nov 30 2011, 12:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	might someone tell me,when is our match with real? i check by googling,it say 1 dec
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annalies	Nov 30 2011, 12:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Sanchez !
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uzary	Nov 30 2011, 02:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 30 2011, 12:08 PM) might someone tell me,when is our match with real? i check by googling,it say 1 dec Iinm it will b on 11 dec 5a.m our tym
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SUSamon_meiz	Dec 1 2011, 01:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(uzary @ Nov 30 2011, 02:08 PM) Iinm it will b on 11 dec 5a.m our tym 5.am? ok.thanks
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myhotgary2	Dec 1 2011, 08:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
Joined: Yesterday Senior Member 617 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: You Kay?	That flick from xavi for the 2nd goal @.@
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R80	Dec 1 2011, 09:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
Getting Started Junior Member 186 posts Joined: Jan 2009	also the dummy
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annalies	Dec 4 2011, 04:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
Getting Started Junior Member 85 posts Joined: Sep 2008	5-0 ! FORZA BARCA
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Peculator	Dec 4 2011, 09:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(annalies @ Dec 4 2011, 04:51 AM) 5-0 ! FORZA BARCA GOOD GOING!!!
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Va Va Voom	Dec 4 2011, 09:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
Casual Junior Member 361 posts Joined: Apr 2007	Match Highlights Barca 5-0 Levante http://footballocks.net/index.php/4367/bar...e-highlights-3/
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uzary	Dec 4 2011, 12:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Nice win, messi could ve get a hatrick..
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TSmatyrze	Dec 4 2011, 01:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Missed 2 matches on the trot Hopefully I won't miss Clasico too How did Cuenca play?
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uzary	Dec 5 2011, 02:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	guys, what do u all think bout this? Talk of Messi's genius is flawed » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ever since Barcelona and Pep Guardiola invented football in 2009, the praise has come full and fast, a blue and purple tsunami of love for unparalleled genius. Lionel Messi: Selfish? GettyImagesLionel Messi: A selfish egotist? And it's fair enough. Xavi is the best midfielder of his day, Andres Iniesta the most elegant, able to pass, trick and score with effortless beauty. The most extensive gush is reserved for Lionel Messi. A genius, apparently, but is he actually any good? People constantly praise the ability he has in that special left foot. Yeah, that special left foot, but not both his feet. The man is half a genius. He plays with his left foot wherever possible because he is a coward. If he were a true genius he would be able to pass as well, shoot as well, or feint as well with his right foot as he could his left. His cowardice prevents him from using his right and embracing his weaknesses. Look at a true great: Michael Owen. Say what you want about him, but he's never been afraid to shank a weak shot ten yards wide with his left foot. Latterday received wisdom is that Messi's only real competitor for the title of the greatest player ever is his Argentine counterpart, Diego Maradona. Tish and fipsy, Maradona is streets ahead, both on and off the pitch, the combination sealing his superiority by a clear distance. Maradona dragged an average Napoli side to a legendary title win, their first, second and only Scudetti. Napoli were not a bad side by any stretch of the imagination, but they were no Barcelona. Without Messi, Barcelona have Pedro, Villa, Busquets, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta and Pique to get by on. They'd in all likelihood still win the league or run Real Madrid close. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that without Messi, Barcelona would still have the strongest squad in the world. Not Maradona, though. Take Maradona out of the Napoli side and there would be no chance for that team to win the league. That's why Maradona shows up Lionel Messi as a footballing charlatan. But that's not the end of it. Maradona is reported to have spent much of his time at Napoli abusing cocaine. Now, if Maradona could play so exceptionally, defining a decade, all while suffering the side effects of drug abuse, then surely without the handicap he would have been even better. The trouble didn't end there. He allegedly cultivated a close relationship with the Neapolitan mafia, he missed so much training he was fined $70,000 - in those days, that's not far off the scale of fine handed to Carlos Tevez. He even fathered an illegitimate son. Did that stop him? No. Napoli's championships bookended two runners up placings, a UEFA Cup and a season as top scorer. He even found time to vaccinate Milan with a twenty-five yard header. He was always able to treat his personal affairs as nothing but background music. Clean-living Messi, on the other hand, is at his peak, totally focused on football. Maradona's most telling showing up of the Messi praise is his performance in international games. In 1986, Maradona scored five goals, made five assists while captaining his side to a World Cup. How did Lionel Messi get on in 1986? He didn't even play. But when he did play, in 2010, Argentina were a shambles. Granted, their preparations had included calling up 36-year-old Martin Palermo. They were managed by a loose cannon on an extended comedown (Maradona again), but they still had Tevez, Aguero, Demichelis and the mighty Jonas Gutierrez at right-back, and got nowhere. The blame must lie solely with Lionel Messi. He's just not good enough to inspire. Messi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona GettyImagesMessi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona Lionel Messi: is he that good? Just look at his scoring records. Last season he scored 53 goals in 55 appearances. Undeniably impressive but understandable given the hard yards he makes everyone run for him at Barcelona. This year, he's scored 26 goals in just 22 games. I know what you're thinking, it's an improvement. But wait a moment, isn't this instructive of his massive selfishness? The traits of egotism reflected in the fact that only he believes he is worthy of scoring? In the past, Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho have been cast out for their problems with authority, but Lionel Messi has risen above that. He has decided that he is Barcelona's authority. Surely the team can't stay together at this rate, and it will be Messi to blame. Egotistical, one-footed and definitely not as talented as Maradona. Those self-important bloggers have got this one wrong. Lastly, how many good corners can you remember Messi taking? Exactly. Also, he's no use in a wall. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...-flawed?cc=4716 This post has been edited by uzary: Dec 5 2011, 02:07 AM
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raj84	Dec 5 2011, 03:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	Noway Owen is better than Messi. The writer want to argue that to be the best, Messi should join a mid table team like Stoke and win the title Nobody can do wat Maradona did for Napoli though
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solstice818	Dec 6 2011, 01:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
You'll Never Walk Alone Senior Member 4,503 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: The Far Away Venus Status: Being Insua-fied	QUOTE(uzary @ Dec 5 2011, 02:07 AM) guys, what do u all think bout this? Talk of Messi's genius is flawed » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ever since Barcelona and Pep Guardiola invented football in 2009, the praise has come full and fast, a blue and purple tsunami of love for unparalleled genius. Lionel Messi: Selfish? GettyImagesLionel Messi: A selfish egotist? And it's fair enough. Xavi is the best midfielder of his day, Andres Iniesta the most elegant, able to pass, trick and score with effortless beauty. The most extensive gush is reserved for Lionel Messi. A genius, apparently, but is he actually any good? People constantly praise the ability he has in that special left foot. Yeah, that special left foot, but not both his feet. The man is half a genius. He plays with his left foot wherever possible because he is a coward. If he were a true genius he would be able to pass as well, shoot as well, or feint as well with his right foot as he could his left. His cowardice prevents him from using his right and embracing his weaknesses. Look at a true great: Michael Owen. Say what you want about him, but he's never been afraid to shank a weak shot ten yards wide with his left foot. Latterday received wisdom is that Messi's only real competitor for the title of the greatest player ever is his Argentine counterpart, Diego Maradona. Tish and fipsy, Maradona is streets ahead, both on and off the pitch, the combination sealing his superiority by a clear distance. Maradona dragged an average Napoli side to a legendary title win, their first, second and only Scudetti. Napoli were not a bad side by any stretch of the imagination, but they were no Barcelona. Without Messi, Barcelona have Pedro, Villa, Busquets, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta and Pique to get by on. They'd in all likelihood still win the league or run Real Madrid close. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that without Messi, Barcelona would still have the strongest squad in the world. Not Maradona, though. Take Maradona out of the Napoli side and there would be no chance for that team to win the league. That's why Maradona shows up Lionel Messi as a footballing charlatan. But that's not the end of it. Maradona is reported to have spent much of his time at Napoli abusing cocaine. Now, if Maradona could play so exceptionally, defining a decade, all while suffering the side effects of drug abuse, then surely without the handicap he would have been even better. The trouble didn't end there. He allegedly cultivated a close relationship with the Neapolitan mafia, he missed so much training he was fined $70,000 - in those days, that's not far off the scale of fine handed to Carlos Tevez. He even fathered an illegitimate son. Did that stop him? No. Napoli's championships bookended two runners up placings, a UEFA Cup and a season as top scorer. He even found time to vaccinate Milan with a twenty-five yard header. He was always able to treat his personal affairs as nothing but background music. Clean-living Messi, on the other hand, is at his peak, totally focused on football. Maradona's most telling showing up of the Messi praise is his performance in international games. In 1986, Maradona scored five goals, made five assists while captaining his side to a World Cup. How did Lionel Messi get on in 1986? He didn't even play. But when he did play, in 2010, Argentina were a shambles. Granted, their preparations had included calling up 36-year-old Martin Palermo. They were managed by a loose cannon on an extended comedown (Maradona again), but they still had Tevez, Aguero, Demichelis and the mighty Jonas Gutierrez at right-back, and got nowhere. The blame must lie solely with Lionel Messi. He's just not good enough to inspire. Messi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona GettyImagesMessi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona Lionel Messi: is he that good? Just look at his scoring records. Last season he scored 53 goals in 55 appearances. Undeniably impressive but understandable given the hard yards he makes everyone run for him at Barcelona. This year, he's scored 26 goals in just 22 games. I know what you're thinking, it's an improvement. But wait a moment, isn't this instructive of his massive selfishness? The traits of egotism reflected in the fact that only he believes he is worthy of scoring? In the past, Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho have been cast out for their problems with authority, but Lionel Messi has risen above that. He has decided that he is Barcelona's authority. Surely the team can't stay together at this rate, and it will be Messi to blame. Egotistical, one-footed and definitely not as talented as Maradona. Those self-important bloggers have got this one wrong. Lastly, how many good corners can you remember Messi taking? Exactly. Also, he's no use in a wall. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...-flawed?cc=4716 Flawed. Carry a sense of bias. Must be someone who hates Messi. However, he does have some point valid. The weak foot part. Isnt that the way Messi was outmusled, kept quiet by Arbeloa during the CL game against Liverpool few years back?
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MADReaLJL	Dec 6 2011, 01:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,050 posts Joined: Mar 2005	4 years ago he wasnt the best player in the world
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TSmatyrze	Dec 6 2011, 03:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(prograndma @ Dec 4 2011, 08:06 PM) cesc and mascherano is not my favourite, they sometime cause some passing tempo lost. mascerano especially is very risky with his long ball passing i agree with your assessment about Cesc. But he brings another dimension to our game. His direct gameplay and quick thinking ability inside opponents box is always useful. Now that Villa is off form, I think there's a big possibility that he will lose his place to Cesc to partner Messi. QUOTE(uzary @ Dec 5 2011, 02:07 AM) guys, what do u all think bout this? Talk of Messi's genius is flawed » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ever since Barcelona and Pep Guardiola invented football in 2009, the praise has come full and fast, a blue and purple tsunami of love for unparalleled genius. Lionel Messi: Selfish? GettyImagesLionel Messi: A selfish egotist? And it's fair enough. Xavi is the best midfielder of his day, Andres Iniesta the most elegant, able to pass, trick and score with effortless beauty. The most extensive gush is reserved for Lionel Messi. A genius, apparently, but is he actually any good? People constantly praise the ability he has in that special left foot. Yeah, that special left foot, but not both his feet. The man is half a genius. He plays with his left foot wherever possible because he is a coward. If he were a true genius he would be able to pass as well, shoot as well, or feint as well with his right foot as he could his left. His cowardice prevents him from using his right and embracing his weaknesses. Look at a true great: Michael Owen. Say what you want about him, but he's never been afraid to shank a weak shot ten yards wide with his left foot. Latterday received wisdom is that Messi's only real competitor for the title of the greatest player ever is his Argentine counterpart, Diego Maradona. Tish and fipsy, Maradona is streets ahead, both on and off the pitch, the combination sealing his superiority by a clear distance. Maradona dragged an average Napoli side to a legendary title win, their first, second and only Scudetti. Napoli were not a bad side by any stretch of the imagination, but they were no Barcelona. Without Messi, Barcelona have Pedro, Villa, Busquets, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta and Pique to get by on. They'd in all likelihood still win the league or run Real Madrid close. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that without Messi, Barcelona would still have the strongest squad in the world. Not Maradona, though. Take Maradona out of the Napoli side and there would be no chance for that team to win the league. That's why Maradona shows up Lionel Messi as a footballing charlatan. But that's not the end of it. Maradona is reported to have spent much of his time at Napoli abusing cocaine. Now, if Maradona could play so exceptionally, defining a decade, all while suffering the side effects of drug abuse, then surely without the handicap he would have been even better. The trouble didn't end there. He allegedly cultivated a close relationship with the Neapolitan mafia, he missed so much training he was fined $70,000 - in those days, that's not far off the scale of fine handed to Carlos Tevez. He even fathered an illegitimate son. Did that stop him? No. Napoli's championships bookended two runners up placings, a UEFA Cup and a season as top scorer. He even found time to vaccinate Milan with a twenty-five yard header. He was always able to treat his personal affairs as nothing but background music. Clean-living Messi, on the other hand, is at his peak, totally focused on football. Maradona's most telling showing up of the Messi praise is his performance in international games. In 1986, Maradona scored five goals, made five assists while captaining his side to a World Cup. How did Lionel Messi get on in 1986? He didn't even play. But when he did play, in 2010, Argentina were a shambles. Granted, their preparations had included calling up 36-year-old Martin Palermo. They were managed by a loose cannon on an extended comedown (Maradona again), but they still had Tevez, Aguero, Demichelis and the mighty Jonas Gutierrez at right-back, and got nowhere. The blame must lie solely with Lionel Messi. He's just not good enough to inspire. Messi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona GettyImagesMessi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona Lionel Messi: is he that good? Just look at his scoring records. Last season he scored 53 goals in 55 appearances. Undeniably impressive but understandable given the hard yards he makes everyone run for him at Barcelona. This year, he's scored 26 goals in just 22 games. I know what you're thinking, it's an improvement. But wait a moment, isn't this instructive of his massive selfishness? The traits of egotism reflected in the fact that only he believes he is worthy of scoring? In the past, Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho have been cast out for their problems with authority, but Lionel Messi has risen above that. He has decided that he is Barcelona's authority. Surely the team can't stay together at this rate, and it will be Messi to blame. Egotistical, one-footed and definitely not as talented as Maradona. Those self-important bloggers have got this one wrong. Lastly, how many good corners can you remember Messi taking? Exactly. Also, he's no use in a wall. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...-flawed?cc=4716 I remember he'd written another heavily biased article about Barca 1 or 2 months back, although I forgot the title nor the link. My opinion is, either he is being paid by Soccernet to be funny, or he's really another hater who couldn't stand looking at Barca lifting 12 trophies in 3 years. I always look up for Phil Ball's articles in Soccernet. He is the best source of football articles regarding Barca/La Liga. QUOTE(raj84 @ Dec 5 2011, 03:39 AM) Noway Owen is better than Messi. The writer want to argue that to be the best, Messi should join a mid table team like Stoke and win the title Nobody can do wat Maradona did for Napoli though Napoli in late 80's wasn't as bad as Stoke today though. I wonder why people keep on saying Napoli was a shit team, when in fact they had the money to buy Maradona on a then world record fee? QUOTE(solstice818 @ Dec 6 2011, 01:24 AM) Flawed. Carry a sense of bias. Must be someone who hates Messi. However, he does have some point valid. The weak foot part. Isnt that the way Messi was outmusled, kept quiet by Arbeloa during the CL game against Liverpool few years back? As MADReaLJL said, Messi has grown tremendously since then. His goals using his right foot. N-OFtme8YHU
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fwhoam	Dec 6 2011, 06:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
Enthusiast Senior Member 824 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Temerloh,Kuantan	Cant wait for el grande classico go barca
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TSmatyrze	Dec 7 2011, 03:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Barcelona line-up (official): Pinto, Montoya, Bartra, Fontàs, Maxwell, Dos Santos, Thiago, Rafinha, Sergi Roberto, Cuenca and Pedro. Barcelona bench: Oier, Piqué, Riverola, Kiko Femenía, Muniesa, Sergi Gómez and Deulofeu. barcastuff Although the game is pretty much meaningless, Thiago and Rafinha starting together bring a whole new excitement into the match Gonna see some brotherly magic tonight
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uzary	Dec 7 2011, 11:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Wow 4-0 nice wins, ac was draw..
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barca96	Dec 7 2011, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	So so so proud..... Before the match I wanted Thiago & Dos Santos in midfield because they are best friends and they use to run the midfield in the youth teams. And Rafinha to play false 9. Haven't watched the match yet, its on Astro PVR.
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uzary	Dec 7 2011, 03:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Can sumone post the highloght of the game
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TSmatyrze	Dec 7 2011, 04:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	tV-fu7smX88 If its true that youth talents come in cycles, it seems like a long time before our Masia cycle stops. Romeu also played well for Chelsea.
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raj84	Dec 7 2011, 05:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(matyrze @ Dec 6 2011, 03:44 AM) Napoli in late 80's wasn't as bad as Stoke today though. I wonder why people keep on saying Napoli was a shit team, when in fact they had the money to buy Maradona on a then world record fee? Napoli wasnt a shit team but for a club which never previously won the Serie A before , the Maradona effect is something big !!!!!
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Blurnotion	Dec 8 2011, 08:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Oct 2011	Sorry been missing for a bit. I just got back from Chicago. It has been a really busy month. Anyway best news for breakfast this morning. We don't have to re-thrash the Manu boys. They deposited themselves into the thrash bin last night. All I can say is their arrogance will continue to be their undoing. Loved the radio chatter this morning as well. Barca's B-team has already achieved a B+ on my list. Good win with and thanks for the highlights
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Peculator	Dec 8 2011, 09:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Keep up the pace and we'll win coming El Clasico for sure.
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barca96	Dec 8 2011, 11:17 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
Enthusiast Senior Member 980 posts Joined: Apr 2010	Wow. At times the Babies looked better than the A-team. Better movement, not relying on anyone to create some magic but instead all work together as a unit. A What made me the most happy was the recovering the ball time. The A team has been too casual with it at times this season. And Wow.. THe best league in the world only has one CL hopeful. I guess the league is so strong until they're worn out
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sepulse	Dec 8 2011, 02:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(barca96 @ Dec 8 2011, 11:17 AM) Wow. At times the Babies looked better than the A-team. Better movement, not relying on anyone to create some magic but instead all work together as a unit. A What made me the most happy was the recovering the ball time. The A team has been too casual with it at times this season. And Wow.. THe best league in the world only has one CL hopeful. I guess the league is so strong until they're worn out yeah yeah. Cuenca slowly become 1 of my fav player. Rafinha + thiago also ok.. and yeah, the big game is coming. bring it on. may the best team win p/s: 2 top team from so called the "best league" got knocked out.
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Innovation	Dec 8 2011, 08:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Getting Started Junior Member 244 posts Joined: Jul 2008	the team shd keep up with the winning momentum fr the big match!... our front line is stock up with alot talented players, but the defending part, hopefully, some youngster can step up to get more exposure.. p/s: my office was so quiet today after the so called "top team" exit to europa game..LOL
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Lionel10Messi	Dec 8 2011, 08:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
New Member Junior Member 33 posts Joined: Sep 2009 From: Camp Nou	QUOTE(Innovation @ Dec 8 2011, 08:11 PM) the team shd keep up with the winning momentum fr the big match!... our front line is stock up with alot talented players, but the defending part, hopefully, some youngster can step up to get more exposure.. p/s: my office was so quiet today after the so called "top team" exit to europa game..LOL with the so-called 'top inguland' team knocked out, i expect madrid to be our strongest rival in the ucl. arrhghh so much of bad blood.
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TSmatyrze	Dec 9 2011, 03:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	PM80o3-OzIs
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sepulse	Dec 9 2011, 08:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
Casual Junior Member 434 posts Joined: Dec 2008	QUOTE(Innovation @ Dec 8 2011, 08:11 PM) p/s: my office was so quiet today after the so called "top team" exit to europa game..LOL same here some of em even changing their wallpaper
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uzary	Dec 10 2011, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	Omg, I can already feel the heat regardin tommrow mornin match.. I hv a fewlin we'll lose tonite, but wateva it is I still hv faith in our team that we will win tonite. Kinda nervous, this is all becoz real is very strong lately n we wil be playin at their turf.. But i'll accept wateva result, even if we lose, doesnt mean we wont win the la liga.
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SUSamon_meiz	Dec 10 2011, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	hi guys.sorry,just asking el classico is at 4am or 5am? from this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1522595/all it state 4am thanks
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raj84	Dec 10 2011, 09:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Feb 2008	QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Dec 10 2011, 09:45 PM) hi guys.sorry,just asking el classico is at 4am or 5am? from this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1522595/all it state 4am thanks 5am kickoff. Astro Supersport will start the preview at 4am
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SUSamon_meiz	Dec 10 2011, 10:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
On my way Senior Member 686 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(raj84 @ Dec 10 2011, 09:58 PM) 5am kickoff. Astro Supersport will start the preview at 4am thanks a lot
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MessiX10	Dec 11 2011, 12:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #466
New Member Junior Member 12 posts Joined: Aug 2010 From: KL	can't wait! i hope messi pawn real madrid defense again !
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raul88	Dec 11 2011, 03:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
░░Madridista ░░ Senior Member 2,280 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: マレーシア	may the best team win
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TSmatyrze	Dec 11 2011, 04:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(raul88 @ Dec 11 2011, 03:24 AM) may the best team win Yeap hoping for a very good display of football from both sides Line-up: Valdés, Alves, Piqué, Puyol, Abidal, Sergio, Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc, Messi, Alexis Bench: Pinto, Mascherano, Maxwell, Thiago, Keita, Pedro and Villa. Visca El Barca!!
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sliqueliques	Dec 11 2011, 04:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Good luck!! So nervous..dem
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uzary	Dec 11 2011, 04:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	here it goes, damm nervous, my heart beatin very fast, and the game not even start yet hehe, feels lyk watchin a final or somethin.. all the best luck n win for our team. dunwan drama,xcept when match end hehehe
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 04:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Any good links to stream El Clasico?
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 04:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	try this, works well on arsenal match... http://www.footplus1.com/ Added on December 11, 2011, 5:01 amwtf This post has been edited by XorrowXtricken: Dec 11 2011, 05:01 AM
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:01 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Omg so fast
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	victor valdes send gift
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uzary	Dec 11 2011, 05:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	valdes sexy pass... bangang
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	I'm feeling the pressure Added on December 11, 2011, 5:07 amWAO MESSI! This post has been edited by JustForFun: Dec 11 2011, 05:07 AM
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	almost!
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Ozil out? Edit: O its D Maria This post has been edited by JustForFun: Dec 11 2011, 05:15 AM
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uzary	Dec 11 2011, 05:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
J@ck da D0n Senior Member 3,149 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Kuala Terengganu	daffuk??? lost of feed?
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	The link gone haywire? LOL Camera from above Added on December 11, 2011, 5:22 amLanguage also changed... This post has been edited by JustForFun: Dec 11 2011, 05:22 AM
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Peculator	Dec 11 2011, 05:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Damn missed the first 15 mins...
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	Di Maria down again ;D
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Peculator	Dec 11 2011, 05:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	GOAL!!!!!!!!!!
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	sanchez!!
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	1-1~~~
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Peculator	Dec 11 2011, 05:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	Nice running from Messi and finishing from Sanchez!!! Added on December 11, 2011, 5:32 amI LOL at Ronaldo's diving. This post has been edited by Peculator: Dec 11 2011, 05:32 AM
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	ronaldo like a clown
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Now that's a fake Added on December 11, 2011, 5:38 amLink dead? This post has been edited by JustForFun: Dec 11 2011, 05:38 AM
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 05:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	ya...will recover, as usual
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 05:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	Never mind, http://atdhenet.tv/41769/watch-real-madrid-vs-barcelona is equally smooth for me Added on December 11, 2011, 5:48 amIf it wasn't for Victor Valdes cheap concede Barcelona would have been leading by now. This post has been edited by JustForFun: Dec 11 2011, 05:48 AM
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TSmatyrze	Dec 11 2011, 05:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Aku miss awal2 match. aku dengar valdes buat bangang td. btoi ka?
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Peculator	Dec 11 2011, 05:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
Getting Started Junior Member 268 posts Joined: Nov 2010 From: 京都市	QUOTE(matyrze @ Dec 11 2011, 05:48 AM) Aku miss awal2 match. aku dengar valdes buat bangang td. btoi ka? I think so, because I missed the first 15 minutes.
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sliqueliques	Dec 11 2011, 05:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
Getting Started Junior Member 61 posts Joined: Sep 2007	valdes..
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TSmatyrze	Dec 11 2011, 05:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Btw Pepe has shown his thug self swinging his leg like that. Well at least he is not given the task to assault Messi this time
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rickysay	Dec 11 2011, 06:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
Arsenal F.C. Senior Member 1,018 posts Joined: Jul 2007	cesc in forward?? A no no for me. I hope he gets subbed out.
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 06:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	FREE GOAL LOL
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SUSXorrowXtricken	Dec 11 2011, 06:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
Casual Junior Member 414 posts Joined: Jan 2010	lol...xavi
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TSmatyrze	Dec 11 2011, 06:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
Historical tears Senior Member 678 posts Joined: Dec 2007 From: Shah Alam	Lol dua2 dpt gol bangang. nice.
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andrekua	Dec 11 2011, 06:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
NO!!! IT'S HIM!!! Senior Member 3,887 posts Joined: Jun 2008	Freak goal but every one of them counts... Nice game Added on December 11, 2011, 6:23 am3 - 1 Game over? This post has been edited by andrekua: Dec 11 2011, 06:23 AM
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JustForFun	Dec 11 2011, 06:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
Seeker Senior Member 1,281 posts Joined: Sep 2008	It's over hahha
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