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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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post Sep 19 2011, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Sep 18 2011, 08:44 PM)
what will tomorrow starting price be in RM? with 1811 USD/ounce still 180/g?
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We don't have chance for that price trust me, especially by the time Malaysia bank open
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post Sep 19 2011, 09:39 AM

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Gold Investment Account as at 19/09/11 9:15 AM

Selling Price Buying Price
1 gram RM 186.1300 RM 178.6500
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post Sep 19 2011, 09:45 AM

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CIMB for today 19/9 is

Selling RM185.1
Buying RM179.7
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(xproc @ Sep 19 2011, 09:39 AM)
Gold Investment Account as at 19/09/11 9:15 AM

  Selling Price Buying Price
1 gram RM 186.1300 RM 178.6500
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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 19 2011, 09:45 AM)
CIMB for today 19/9 is

Selling RM185.1
Buying RM179.7
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thumbup.gif It going to goes up even more by end of this week once ben bernanke speak oh.
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:50 AM

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Read this Gold 1980 Deja Vu?. If it is true, gold is going to double by year end.

But no one really knows for sure how high gold will go up and when it will crash. Want some thrill, go invest in gold today smile.gif Click here to read my article titled Gold Stocks Gambling.

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post Sep 19 2011, 11:43 AM

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Updated: Monday, 19 Sep 2011
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Currency Buy Sell
MYR /gram 177.3100 185.3800
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post Sep 19 2011, 11:55 AM

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PB Gold Investment Account as at 19/09/11 3:45 PM

1 gram
RM 187.0300 Selling Price
RM 179.5100 Buying Price

The increase of USD also increase gold price. hmm.gif

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post Sep 19 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Sep 19 2011, 10:50 AM)
Read this Gold 1980 Deja Vu?. If it is true, gold is going to double by year end.

But no one really knows for sure how high gold will go up and when it will crash. Want some thrill, go invest in gold today smile.gif Click here to read my article titled Gold Stocks Gambling.
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Guess you are one of those Wannabesingold type...... rolleyes.gif

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Well, I don't know much about investing in gold except that it was USD800/oz in 1980 and by 1983 it dropped to USD300/oz. I love gold, in my 20's I liked to wear 2 gold bracelets at one time (I bought many over time as I kept losing them and finally gave up, as every time one disappears I was literally throwing away a few hundred Ringgit). Like I mentioned in the earlier paragraph, my grandmother bought gold, but she bought it not for investment but as gifts for me in the far future. I also buy gold for my wife and myself but not for investment but because we like it.  And we won't be selling the gold we/I bought for money as the gold we have carries sentimental value. My wife and myself would most probably past it on to our next generation with the hope that they will pass it on through the generations, I guess that's what the financial people term as Preservation of Wealth (not really, I am just kidding on the term) haha.


http://ringgitwisefool.blogspot.com/2011/0...retirement.html

Methinks theres someting seriously wrong with yer head matter

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Well, the long term chart just turned negative. Actually, my guts have been telling me that market will crash since 2 years ago, but instead it went up. Which is good because I had made more money from stocks and unit trust which I did not dispose off last year but I have been consistently selling off my unit trust periodically to lock in profit. Actually, earlier this year I even bought BIMB since I thought it was cheap relative to other banks and made some pocket money, but once again I sold it too early after making 30% profit ( in less than 3 months, so if you annualize it, I made 120% profit!). The price of BIMB doubled eventually from the price I entered! But the game is to make money and you guys by now would know I'm a kiasu person, hahaha.


Is this what yer GUTS telling you? whistling.gif

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Playing stock market and gold, you either make money or you don't. So, once again the chances are 50:50, hahaha. I am sure you guys who are investing in Gold are very well aware that Gold was USD800/oz in 1980 and dropped to USD300/oz in 1983. So, it is not to say that you won't lose your hard earn money if you invest in gold. Remember Oil prices in 2008, people were saying that it could reach USD200/barrel but it did not.


http://ringgitwisefool.blogspot.com/2011/0...s-gambling.html


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 19 2011, 11:59 AM)
Guess you are one of those Wannabesingold  type......  rolleyes.gif

Methinks theres someting seriously wrong with yer head matter

Is this what yer GUTS telling you?  whistling.gif

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:03 PM

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The Gold Deja Vu article seems more of a chart technical analysis than having the underlying reasons explained, and having those analysis to overlie the current contemporary period. While informative, it seems incomplete under current scenarios.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 19 2011, 05:03 PM)
The Gold Deja Vu article seems more of a chart technical analysis than having the underlying reasons explained, and having those analysis to overlie the current contemporary period. While informative, it seems incomplete under current scenarios.
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+1 You speak my mind.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:26 PM

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You know, I wonder why we can't use gold as capital for investment in general market devices, WITHOUT converting it to fiat currency.

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 19 2011, 05:26 PM)
You know, I wonder why we can't use gold as capital for investment in general market devices, WITHOUT converting it to fiat currency.
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because you cannot manipulate gold compared to fiat? wink.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 19 2011, 05:26 PM)
You know, I wonder why we can't use gold as capital for investment in general market devices, WITHOUT converting it to fiat currency.
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Because gold is never a medium of trade/exchange.

When you go to restaurant to eat, can you pay with 1g or 2g of gold?
Can be pay with 1kg of gold when you buy a house time?
When you make credit card payment time, can you say to the bank, I pay with 10 g of gold?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:40 PM)
Because gold is never a medium of trade/exchange.

When you go to restaurant to eat, can you pay with 1g or 2g of gold?
Can be pay with 1kg of gold when you buy a house time?
When you make credit card payment time, can you say to the bank, I pay with 10 g of gold?
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Ay, there's the rub!
Why can't I pay someone with a unit of exchange that does not lose its intrinsic value?
Modern fungibility and divisibility be a curse!
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 19 2011, 05:46 PM)
Ay, there's the rub!
Why can't I pay someone with a unit of exchange that does not lose its intrinsic value?
Modern fungibility and divisibility be a curse!
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Gold doesn't lose its intrinsic value?
Gold doesn't have a value at all.

Its value is based on fiat money system, aka how much you will pay to own the gold.
Ain't you see gold price now is USD18xx or 1900?
Its value is coming from or based on fiat money. whistling.gif

You can lose money with gold as well.
Last time 1kg of gold can buy you a bungalow.
Now 1kg of gold is not even enough to buy you medium 1000 sqft apartment.
Tell me how it is not losing "value"?

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 19 2011, 05:51 PM)
Last time 1kg of gold can buy you a bungalow.
Now 1kg of gold is not even enough to buy you medium 1000 sqft apartment.
Tell me how it is not losing "value"?
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I think that's ignoring the most obvious of all real estate truths and obfuscating it with gold.
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:58 PM

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It just mean that real estate prices have inflated faster than gold
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 19 2011, 05:58 PM)
It just mean that real estate prices have inflated faster than gold
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Well, I was referring to the adage: location, location, location.

Though that too ties to : Inflation, inflation, inflation! (can also replace with speculation)
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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 19 2011, 05:26 PM)
You know, I wonder why we can't use gold as capital for investment in general market devices, WITHOUT converting it to fiat currency.
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I'm just guessing here, not a financial expert.
I think the reason is because we cannot create more gold but we can create more houses, cars, grow more food.
Imagine there is only 1oz of gold in the world which can buy 1 chicken ... then the chicken become 2 chicken.
So now 1oz of gold can buy 2 chicken is it?
Fiat currency or gold is good as long as it increases at the same rate of growth.

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