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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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trencher10
post Aug 27 2011, 09:46 AM

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If gold prices still shoots up after Raya, all bets on correction to moving average line in few months are off.
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post Aug 27 2011, 10:36 AM

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Then how long after that gold price peaks before drops? smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2011, 05:55 PM

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Public Banks's Online Trading system is also pursuant to office hours (when the counter opens). So, theoretically, it is limited to Malaysian time, not international gold markets time.
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post Aug 29 2011, 09:11 AM

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Ah! Gold spot been dropping since markets opened for the week!
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post Aug 29 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(aeronic @ Aug 27 2011, 10:57 PM)

mind posting your chart you drafted here?
I use a WP7 app on my Samsung Focus to track the gold price. It uses a 100-day MA, unlike Kitco's 14-day and 200-day ( I find Kitco's MAs too long or too short in seeing a peak/trough cycle for my needs ).
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post Aug 29 2011, 09:40 PM

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Gold spot has dropped down the 1800 USD mark again. Will it drop down to 100-day MA? Or at least hold below 1800 USD? Let's see!
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post Aug 30 2011, 10:19 PM

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Ah, too bad. Looks like gold prices will stay jumpy in the 1750 - 1850 band until some news push it up or down those lines, for us watching vultures to pounce on, either to profit or to top up.


Added on August 30, 2011, 10:20 pmThat 100-day MA I use would probably rise to a new stabilised level if this continues.

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post Sep 2 2011, 10:35 PM

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Hmm. Gold price jumped the 1850 mark. Wonder where the averages will lie or when a 2008-2009 drop [dropped 200 USD] can happen (the best time to stock up on gold).
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post Sep 3 2011, 07:57 PM

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Gold prices look too volatile for me looking back with 6-10 months data. Trying-to buy in at a good price point is getting harder. Short-term peak price points where profit-seekers also cash in seem to push prices down at times that make it jump in directions uncertain for the stable investor.
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post Sep 5 2011, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(FrancescoTop8 @ Sep 4 2011, 10:25 PM)
916 are more towards jewellery not investment  nod.gif
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Except 916 has robustness for general circulation coinage, as opposed to 995 or 999 [Which is why most Islamic dinars are minted to 916/917 standards]. Though in such a situation, that means fiat money has literally gone up in flames!

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post Sep 5 2011, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 5 2011, 02:03 PM)
No ler....i am just commenting on the writeup........ its rubbish info IMO

IMO hes luring people to sell their jewellery most probably at cheap rates.........
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Well, I know for a fact when there's those stalls of Cash4Gold, fiat money is on the runs ... only very financially unwise people are unloading personal gold for small gains.


Added on September 5, 2011, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 5 2011, 11:40 AM)
Yes

thats what they told me. i guess they have some testing equipment.

If they refuse them i will bring them to bank negara!   biggrin.gif
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The bank or the Kijang you want to haul? Which one get better compensation? Lawsuit or on-the-spot exchange? biggrin.gif


Added on September 5, 2011, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(PatEagle @ Sep 5 2011, 11:51 AM)


Added on September 5, 2011, 12:01 pm
Oh yes, I think so too. Read this..

Wikileaks China buying gold memo set to push gold prices higher
We have a suspicion that the following cable from the US embassy in China is about to go not viral but very much global, and prompt all those mutual fund managers who are on the golden sidelines to dip a toe in the 24 karat pool. Full story, http://bit.ly/pqCKdW

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So much for Mahathir's Gold Dinar idea gone to waste ... while BNists and UMNOists once chewed out Kelantan's gold dinar as spurious economic value.

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post Sep 5 2011, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 5 2011, 06:16 PM)
hi all,
i'm a noob also when it comes to investing in gold.... just trying to understand here...what possible scenario that can make the gold price go down in a free fall ?

for example...US dollar... if the gov continue to borrow and their debt ceiling explode, then maybe US Gov print more money and cause their value to drop...

in the case of gold...what could possibly happen to cause this?
maybe the one i can think of is people mass selling the gold in panic...this is one potential situation...what else?

thanks for all inputs! need to understand and learn.. smile.gif
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The most simple case is to look at the 1981 gold price peak. Panic sentiment not based upon correct assumptions on general GLOBAL market trends.
Local gold prices according to one's currency is also an indicator to your nation's inflation conditions (or not, I'm actually unclear on this).
The current trend since 2008 or, one could say since 2001, is unlike the 1981 peak as the global economy is now tied to US monetary & fiscal policies that are increasingly unsustainable. The current rise will not stop unless a stabilised world economy reappears. Europe and America in turmoil is not going to send gold to drop overnight.

Unless they suddenly found a big 1 million tonne ore seam in someone's backyard ...



Oh .. but I advise if a mountain of gold appears at the Euphrates, stay clear of it ...

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post Sep 6 2011, 12:28 PM

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For the new investors, they need to understand moving averages if they are to know when they want to buy gold at the prices they'd like. By averaging gold spot price over either a short-,medium-,long-term averages of days, you'd be able to see where gold price dips are to your purchase points.
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 6 2011, 10:53 PM)
i found the spot gold chart has MYR and gram in goldprice.org, much more convenient to understand, direct read and no need calculate
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But too bad they don't seem to have a longer timeline for the RM chart.
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post Sep 7 2011, 09:29 PM

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Heh. The price drop is not going to dampen gold's upward trend. Since the current global markets and economies, coupled with monetary policies like the Swiss, are slow moving behemoths that have been jolted by more larger crises, the Swiss peg are unlikely to do much than a realignment of portfolios than anything else. Great time to top up!
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post Sep 7 2011, 09:39 PM

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Really the past few weeks are unique in gold spot prices history, up and down in 100-200 USD ranges. Wonder which day-limit moving average should I use for medium-term ...
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post Sep 8 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 11:01 AM)
And dontwet in yer pants if gold corrected like in 2008 from $1033 to $681..........  nod.gif

Thats 34% correction from high..................  biggrin.gif
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Actually, I never understood how that drop happened. Though it was a great opportunity to bail out of the fiat money games at that time (if you were so invested). The rise after that is satisfactorily explained, if not obvious.
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post Sep 9 2011, 07:00 PM

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Gold was rising since the Swiss peg effects tapered off, but now it dropped back from 1880 USD spot to 1830 USD spot. Does anyone know why? Could it be the news of revised inflation figures in China (they seem to be less than forecast)?
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post Sep 12 2011, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Sep 12 2011, 09:36 PM)
Is it possible to have inflation and recession happening at the same time?

From my understanding, inflation happens when there's lots of money chasing a product but in recession is that possible when money is tight?

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You'll have to understand what a recession is. And inflation. Then, you can understand why both can happen at the same time.

We'll have to find a country with decreasing populations to really find a real managed deflation. Japan could become one.


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post Sep 14 2011, 08:59 PM

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Should make separate threads of "Is it time to BUY GOLD now", and "Is it time to SELL GOLD now". And let the technical analyses, sentiment talk and general discussion concentrate here.

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