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 Buying Gold As Investment V3 - $1950?, Gold rush brings windfalls and warnings

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post Sep 18 2011, 08:44 PM

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what will tomorrow starting price be in RM? with 1811 USD/ounce still 180/g?
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 18 2011, 08:27 PM)
Ah.. another brother who believes in the one and only truth/single reality/right. Of course you're "right"   tongue.gif
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i guess you're "one of them" drool.gif

"be careful" you all rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by lustman: Sep 18 2011, 09:12 PM
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 18 2011, 06:35 PM)
MBB & CIMB doesnt provide online trading the last i checked about 3 months ago.

UOB peculiar - when i called them and asked about their Gold a/c, they said that not only have to physically go to a branch BUT also hopefully that branch U go to has not sold out its gold yet. BTW, i was very very firm and specific about gold a/c, not gold bars.
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the uob staff must be dreaming while talking to you laugh.gif no problems with opening gold account, like another forummer said, you only need to open a savings a/c only and can buy oledi. if you're investing above 1000gm, you can consider the premier gold account. spread is only rm1 per gm, even better to trade
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post Sep 18 2011, 09:54 PM

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Just for your info only especially the last sentence.

In the clip below, Mr. Faber says precious metals may fall as QE2 ends, and before the next round of Fed printing begins.

Some quotable notes from the interview with Mr. Faber, author of Tomorrow's Gold:

“I still like gold and silver. I think it will go down for the next three months or so but I wouldn't short them.”

“[You should] keep on accumulating gold.”

“Not to own any gold means you trust central bankers and that you don't want to do in your life.”

http://youtu.be/IdgBW-DgiA8

This post has been edited by lustman: Sep 18 2011, 09:55 PM
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 18 2011, 09:16 PM)
the uob staff must be dreaming while talking to you  laugh.gif  no problems with opening gold account, like another forummer said, you only need to open a savings a/c only and can buy oledi. if you're investing above 1000gm, you can consider the premier gold account. spread is only rm1 per gm, even better to trade
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ya, the spread of UOB Premium Gold account is extremely attractive!

BUT initial investment is 1KG, AND trading unit is 1KG!!
means that every time buy in minimum must be 1KG gold, sell out must minimum 1KG! (1KG gold = ~RM 180,000)
not much ppl have this ability trading in "2 Honda City" unit. tongue.gif
even have the ability, also no guts to bear such high risk...


unless the person planning to invest in long term 10 or 15 years, and after deposit in not going to see / hear / know the gold price,
else... may die of heart attack! blush.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 18 2011, 09:54 PM)
Just for your info only especially the last sentence.

In the clip below, Mr. Faber says precious metals may fall as QE2 ends, and before the next round of Fed printing begins.

Some quotable notes from the interview with Mr. Faber, author of Tomorrow's Gold:

“I still like gold and silver. I think it will go down for the next three months or so but I wouldn't short them.”

“[You should] keep on accumulating gold.”

“Not to own any gold means you trust central bankers and that you don't want to do in your life.”

http://youtu.be/IdgBW-DgiA8
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That interview was on bloomberg 23 June, so 3 months mean gold drop until September only. Huhu thumbup.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 10:24 PM

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So which is which?

This report came out on Sept 14:
Stocks rally on hopes for Greece

Then this on Sept 16:
Europe default risk signal flashing red

Barely 2 days after the Greece-would-achieve-fiscal-targets feelgood news, we're back to Greece-near-100%-default doomsday warning tongue.gif

While its almost certain if euro collapse, gold & silver will rocket to the skies, but what about the China factor? What happens if China & the rest of the BRIC injects massive capital to save euro? What would be the effect on gold & silver? Bearish outcome while massive rallies for the share market?

Whats the possibility of BRIC intervening to save euro?

Can China and the other BRIC nations save Europe?
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Although China premier Wen Jiabao confirmed at a World Economic Forum meeting Wednesday that it may step up its purchase of European debt, nothing is set in stone



Added on September 18, 2011, 10:29 pm
QUOTE(o0o0 @ Sep 18 2011, 10:04 PM)
ya, the spread of UOB Premium Gold account is extremely attractive!

BUT initial investment is 1KG, AND trading unit is 1KG!!
means that every time buy in minimum must be 1KG gold, sell out must minimum 1KG! (1KG gold = ~RM 180,000)
not much ppl have this ability trading in "2 Honda City" unit.  tongue.gif
even have the ability, also no guts to bear such high risk...
unless the person planning to invest in long term 10 or 15 years, and after deposit in not going to see / hear / know the gold price,
else... may die of heart attack!  blush.gif
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i did mention if investing above 1000gm ma, thats 1kg ler. mana tau we have some millionaires here who thinks 4 - 5kg are peanuts. the fella might be so grateful of my recommendation he spends me a few grams as commission drool.gif

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post Sep 18 2011, 10:31 PM

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I would like to open a gold saving account with UOB Malaysia. Will I be granted approval? I am a foreigner.
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 18 2011, 10:24 PM)
So which is which?

This report came out on Sept 14:
Stocks rally on hopes for Greece

Then this on Sept 16:
Europe default risk signal flashing red

Barely 2 days after the Greece-would-achieve-fiscal-targets feelgood news, we're back to Greece-near-100%-default doomsday warning  tongue.gif

While its almost certain if euro collapse, gold & silver will rocket to the skies, but what about the China factor? What happens if China & the rest of the BRIC injects massive capital to save euro? What would be the effect on gold & silver? Bearish outcome while massive rallies for the share market?

Whats the possibility of BRIC intervening to save euro?

Can China and the other BRIC nations save Europe?

Added on September 18, 2011, 10:29 pm

i did mention if investing above 1000gm ma, thats 1kg ler. mana tau we have some millionaires here who thinks 4 - 5kg are peanuts. the fella might be so grateful of my recommendation he spends me a few grams as commission  drool.gif
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Speculate on the hordes of people who follow these news as their yardstick for precious metals accumulation. Tomorrow morning maybe sharp jump spikes.
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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 18 2011, 10:24 PM)
So which is which?

This report came out on Sept 14:
Stocks rally on hopes for Greece

Then this on Sept 16:
Europe default risk signal flashing red

Barely 2 days after the Greece-would-achieve-fiscal-targets feelgood news, we're back to Greece-near-100%-default doomsday warning  tongue.gif

While its almost certain if euro collapse, gold & silver will rocket to the skies, but what about the China factor? What happens if China & the rest of the BRIC injects massive capital to save euro? What would be the effect on gold & silver? Bearish outcome while massive rallies for the share market?

Whats the possibility of BRIC intervening to save euro?

Can China and the other BRIC nations save Europe?

Added on September 18, 2011, 10:29 pm

i did mention if investing above 1000gm ma, thats 1kg ler. mana tau we have some millionaires here who thinks 4 - 5kg are peanuts. the fella might be so grateful of my recommendation he spends me a few grams as commission  drool.gif
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hehe.. sorry, no offense..

hopefully China don't campur tangan la..
i tot China & US bermusuh....... unsure.gif
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post Sep 18 2011, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Sep 18 2011, 06:08 PM)
I think this link answers all your questions.  biggrin.gif
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Some of information there is outdated. 1 of it is, Min Initial Deposit for CIMB is 2g (if not mistaken) and not 10g
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post Sep 18 2011, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PM)
Speculate on the hordes of people who follow these news as their yardstick for precious metals accumulation. Tomorrow morning maybe sharp jump spikes.
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While my long term goal is to accumulate precious metal, right now I need to speculate a bit to raise the capital required to buy more of them in future ler biggrin.gif

Correct me if I'm wrong, for I'm just thinking my own thoughts here, but I'm kinda worried about the China factor coz it has everything to go for it if it pumps in capital to save europe:

1. The costs of bailing out europe is offset by lowered costs of gold (IF China is really accumulating gold as some speculated)
2. Europe does not goes into recession, which means demand for China goods does not drop

true or false???

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post Sep 19 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Sep 18 2011, 11:27 PM)
While my long term goal is to accumulate precious metal, right now I need to speculate a bit to raise the capital required to buy more of them in future ler  biggrin.gif

Correct me if I'm wrong, for I'm just thinking my own thoughts here, but I'm kinda worried about the China factor coz it has everything to go for it if it pumps in capital to save europe:

1. The costs of bailing out europe is offset by lowered costs of gold (IF China is really accumulating gold as some speculated)
2. Europe does not goes into recession, which means demand for China goods does not drop

true or false???
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I don`t think China too interested in EU.
Yes, they will buy some EU bonds because if they don`t salvage EU, China can`t market their goods there.
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post Sep 19 2011, 01:01 AM

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Gold possible outlook for the week..

XAU has formed an inverted hammer in a very important S&R region. On the daily chart, it has closed below the Kijun Sen. Base on previous historical pattern, when gold closed below daily kijun sen, the yellow metal will go either bearish movement or consolidation movement. It has to break 1840 for the bull to resume.

You decide what's best. I may be wrong doh.gif Only the market is always right! Tighten your stops.


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post Sep 19 2011, 05:44 AM

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please may i know where i can check for free, hourly/daily gold movement candlestick chart? tq
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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 19 2011, 05:44 AM)
please may i know where i can check for free, hourly/daily gold movement candlestick chart? tq
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You can try WWW.netdania.net under chart category. This is web base and it is free.
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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 18 2011, 09:54 PM)
Just for your info only especially the last sentence.

In the clip below, Mr. Faber says precious metals may fall as QE2 ends, and before the next round of Fed printing begins.

Some quotable notes from the interview with Mr. Faber, author of Tomorrow's Gold:

“I still like gold and silver. I think it will go down for the next three months or so but I wouldn't short them.”

“[You should] keep on accumulating gold.”

“Not to own any gold means you trust central bankers and that you don't want to do in your life.”

http://youtu.be/IdgBW-DgiA8
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That interview was in JUne+3 months = sept........times up? tongue.gif


Added on September 19, 2011, 7:41 am
QUOTE(Quinn @ Sep 19 2011, 01:01 AM)
Gold possible outlook for the week..

XAU has formed an inverted hammer in a very important S&R region. On the daily chart, it has closed below the Kijun Sen. Base on previous historical pattern, when gold closed below daily kijun sen, the yellow metal will go either bearish movement or consolidation movement. It has to break 1840 for the bull to resume.

You decide what's best. I may be wrong  doh.gif  Only the market is always right! Tighten your stops.
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XAU?

Thats not gold ......thats gold miners

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QUOTE(lustman @ Sep 18 2011, 09:54 PM)
Just for your info only especially the last sentence.

In the clip below, Mr. Faber says precious metals may fall as QE2 ends, and before the next round of Fed printing begins.

Some quotable notes from the interview with Mr. Faber, author of Tomorrow's Gold:

“I still like gold and silver. I think it will go down for the next three months or so but I wouldn't short them.”

“[You should] keep on accumulating gold.”

“Not to own any gold means you trust central bankers and that you don't want to do in your life.”

http://youtu.be/IdgBW-DgiA8
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QE2 has ended months ago.. but fear not.. QE3 is coming.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 19 2011, 08:08 AM)
QE2 has ended months ago.. but fear not.. QE3 is coming....  biggrin.gif
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Right on!

AND add EU4 to that!
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post Sep 19 2011, 08:49 AM

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And add EUPANIC if EU -GR !

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