Would a civil engineer with 20 years experience get a good job in Oz?

Hmmm... I'm working in Australia, and I am not a PR, I'm just holding a 457 business (long stay) visa.
That is if you got a sponsor company in Australia that want to employs you, and the job is considered as a in-demand too.

so if someone is on 457 visa yes the period depending on their contract employment i mean contract employment

so far i know that even a director of sales n food n beverage are on 457 visa sponsored by the companies working on contract basis so i believe that mercury8400 is on contract basis which it shows that he work in 3 different banks probably because he is visa expiring and can be sponsored by the other companies

i assumed that he is working the big 4 banks which my guess most probably he has worked in cba, anz n nab

Yup, 457 working visa allows you to stay as long as 4 years max. But it is also changed that time when I got mine, I only got 2 years visa, and now my company is helping me to revise the visa, extending for another 2-4 years stay.

I'm in the O&G industry, as a geophysicist. I think my company is in need of people that time, hence I got the offer to base permanent in Australia.
O&G and mining industry are strong in Australia, so I think there's a good chance to land a job if you're engineer or somewhat related profession.

As for mercury, it may be a possiblity that he obtained PR during his 3 years of study in Australia.
I only heard from friends, so dont take my word for it, but isn't it the eligbilty for PR is only 2 full years stay in Australia? Of course you need to pass their exams and fulfill certain criteria before granted PR.

I'm actually interested to see extremepower replies, so there're Malaysian community in Melbourne and Sydney that play badminton. Cool.
I'm currently in Brisbane by the way, any chance there's a similar group at here? 

so far i know that even a director of sales n food n beverage are on 457 visa sponsored by the companies working on contract basis so i believe that mercury8400 is on contract basis which it shows that he work in 3 different banks probably because he is visa expiring and can be sponsored by the other companies

i assumed that he is working the big 4 banks which my guess most probably he has worked in cba, anz n nab

that avatar bug thingy is bloody annoying mate. I felt like smaking it on my screen. lol.

the doin it from behind is sexy man.. lol.

Folks,

Once upon a time, I made a VERY SIMPLE and ACCURATE statement about living in ANY country.

If you can make multiple times the average citizens in that country, you will live very well.

The same applies here.  Aka, living in Australia.  If you can earn a few times the average people of Australia, you will do fine.

Now, if you earn average and / or below average, you will not have a good life in Australia.  For some people, they have the ability to earn multiple times the average people for multiple countries, in that case, they will do fine in all those countries.

Some Malaysians migrated to Australia and they can longer earn above average income.  Hence, they have a bad life.  Others do not have that problem.  Hence, they are doing fine.

It is THE SAME all over the world...

Dreamer

P.S.: In summary, if you want a good life, do not be AVERAGE.  You have to be ABOVE AVERAGE.

Thats true everywhere in the world.

Say if you are earning in excess of 300k pa in Msia, would one be able to
find a similar job in Oz?
i have scanned through some job sites, the best offer for a civil engineer is around AUD250k, with averages of AUD180k.
How would that compare with the Msia salary wrt lifestyle and costs of living after taxes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...l%29_per_capita

prophetjul,

You do not get the ESSENCE of what I am saying...

The per capita GDP (nominal) for Malaysia is USD$8,617.  If you earn RM300K in Malaysia ~ USD$100K, you are 100K / $8,617 = 10 times the average people.

In Australia, per capital GDP (nominal) = USD $67K ~ AUD$67K just to simplify the comparison.  If you earn AUD180K, you are just 2.5 times the average people.  If you earn AUD250K, you are just 4 times the average...

Strictly by life style and financial point of view, RM 300K will get you a better life style as compare to average people (10 times) in Malaysia than the AUD180K and/or AUD250K (2.5 to 4 times ) in Australia.

This is the same reason why a retired British civil servant could barely survive in UK but could live very well in Malaysia.

In almost every country, the tax system is designed to make sure that people earning the AVERAGE pay the most taxes.  If you earn multiple times the average, you do not need to worry about tax.

Dreamer

i do understand what you meant.

BTW i think you also mean average earnings per capita instead of GDP which is gross domestic production.
Gross domestic product (GDP) refers to the market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period

i dont think its a strict maths comparison as taxes, medical etc comes into it. i think the net earnings is probably more
accurate plus afew other indicators.

Taxes in Msia is different. Note the number of tax payors in Msia is actually very few compared to working pop.
As i undersatnd like only in excess of 1 mil compared to 8mil working pop.
So in essense the av income earners do not pay the taxes in Msia. Its borned by the high income earners.
USD8600 = RM26k will not attract income tax.
Just my understanding..can anyone verify this?

i do not know lar, but from the day 1 i started working in the 90s, i pay taxes till today. Am i average earners? Yes, definately....as i not high income earners....when can i stop paying tax like Brunei??? 

when can i stop paying tax like Brunei???

i do understand what you meant.

BTW i think you also mean average earnings per capita instead of GDP which is gross domestic production.
Gross domestic product (GDP) refers to the market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period

i dont think its a strict maths comparison as taxes, medical etc comes into it. i think the net earnings is probably more
accurate plus afew other indicators.

Taxes in Msia is different. Note the number of tax payors in Msia is actually very few compared to working pop.
As i undersatnd like only in excess of 1 mil compared to 8mil working pop.
So in essense the av income earners do not pay the taxes in Msia. Its borned by the high income earners.
USD8600 = RM26k will not attract income tax.
Just my understanding..can anyone verify this?

prophetjul,

<<USD8600 = RM26k will not attract income tax.>>

You have a VERY NARROW view of tax.  Just calculate how much a RM26K person pay for a car because of the car import duty.  How many percents of the income go towards car??

The SYSTEM is designed to get the most TAX REVENUE from average people.  It has to for a SIMPLE REASON. 

A) That is the LARGEST number of people in the country

B) The below average people has no money and cannot survive

C) The above average people are

    i) Too few to matter

    ii) Too hard to collect with their lawyers, accountants and so on...

Dreamer

Dreamer

You do jump to conclusions vert fast! 
i am only replying to your comments based on av income p capita........

So let me be curt as well.......  

NO ONE forces you to buy a car ................ END of.

i also mentioned there are other indicators as well.........

Too hard to collect is a bad excuse.........

next questions for you before you give more qualitative comments

a) data for the statistical distribution of the tax paid vs the income earned

b) the data for the statistical distribution of tax payors or non

c) others

prophetjul,

1) Can a person earning RM26K live an average life and save money??

2) Can you name all the hidden tax in Malaysia?? In this broader definition, tax = government revenue.  Given that 50+% of KLSE are GLCs and GLICs, all their incomes and losses went to the government too.

3) How much of your income went to GLC and Government??

Dreamer

P.S.: Do you have to buy a car in order to be "taxed" by the car import tax??  The answer is NO.  When you use somebody's car (taxi ) and buses, they passed their costs to YOU.  Ditto on lorry and so on... The cost of lorry affected by import tax is passed on to you with higher price...

P.S.2: In Malaysia, the GOVERNMENT run the economy.  You pay regardless of what you do.

if a person cannot live on Rm26k as you seem to suggest(forgive me if i misread), what biz
do they have buying a car?   

let me see about taxes

income, service, gomen, excise, import, export, cesses, property assessment, sales,

On high car import taxes, you have to refer to Singapore as well.......

Methink everywhere, not just Msia, Gomens run the economy........afterall they set the policies.
More biz, more tax, more income......